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munkor 27-10-2008 16:39

Re: VM traffic shaping policy changed?
 
last night, again after 9pm i was capped, so turned off the pc.

at 1am, i tried again and my speed was as it should be. If i was originally capped around 10:30pm (not before 9 u notice), and the cap lasts for 5 hours, why would i get my speed back at 1am?

brundles 27-10-2008 17:23

Re: VM traffic shaping policy changed?
 
Perhaps my maths is out, but being capped at about 10:30pm for 5 hours would take you until about 3:30am. Being capped at about 8pm would have left you back on full speed by 1am.

Another possibility given the start date on this thread is that VM haven't got around to changing the clocks on the STM nodes - not very likely as it probably changes itself, but worth a thought.

xspeedyx 27-10-2008 17:58

Re: VM traffic shaping policy changed?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by brundles (Post 34662679)
Perhaps my maths is out, but being capped at about 10:30pm for 5 hours would take you until about 3:30am. Being capped at about 8pm would have left you back on full speed by 1am.

Another possibility given the start date on this thread is that VM haven't got around to changing the clocks on the STM nodes - not very likely as it probably changes itself, but worth a thought.

When I for STM'd outside of stm hours the rep said it might be due to the clocks going forward and the UBR might not have been updated

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Originally Posted by munkor (Post 34662645)
last night, again after 9pm i was capped, so turned off the pc.

at 1am, i tried again and my speed was as it should be. If i was originally capped around 10:30pm (not before 9 u notice), and the cap lasts for 5 hours, why would i get my speed back at 1am?

Are you sure it was STM and not congestion, dont forget there is a stm limit for upload and if you got ur speed back at 1 you might have hit the upload limit just b4 8.00pm

cook1984 27-10-2008 23:11

Re: VM traffic shaping policy changed?
 
I was just randomly STM'ed despite my PC actually having been off since before 7pm when I was not.

Something strange is going on.

homealone 27-10-2008 23:33

Re: VM traffic shaping policy changed?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cook1984 (Post 34662941)
I was just randomly STM'ed despite my PC actually having been off since before 7pm when I was not.

Something strange is going on.

based on your other post, no you were not - assuming STM is the cause of all speed reductions is not valid reasoning, especially when the speed actually achieved is more than the current STM limit would allow :)

Gary L 27-10-2008 23:45

Re: VM traffic shaping policy changed?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by homealone (Post 34662954)
based on your other post, no you were not - assuming STM is the cause of all speed reductions is not valid reasoning, especially when the speed actually achieved is more than the current STM limit would allow :)

Here's a theory. they know we suspect something about STM and that you can get hit by it even though you haven't hit any of the limits. so they have a seperate config running that slows your connection down at random speeds. or whatever speed that they have set it at for any particular day?

|Kippa| 28-10-2008 08:01

Re: VM traffic shaping policy changed?
 
I doubt it. When people report slow downloads they will probably contact technical support. Correct me if I am wrong, but The first line of tech support might not be able to access the local configs but I think the 2nd line of tech support can. If they changed the configs then the 2ndline of support would be able to see it, and I doubt it would remain a secret for very long.

Fatec 28-10-2008 08:49

Re: VM traffic shaping policy changed?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 34662957)
Here's a theory. they know we suspect something about STM and that you can get hit by it even though you haven't hit any of the limits. so they have a seperate config running that slows your connection down at random speeds. or whatever speed that they have set it at for any particular day?

Nope.

They can cap a user anytime they like though, but that has always been the case, even back on telewest STM hit users that were in a 'naughty' list.

cook1984 29-10-2008 22:28

Re: VM traffic shaping policy changed?
 
I have been hit every single day this week, despite not going over the limit. I have been trying to get an answer from VM but no luck so far. They are sending an engineer out but they don't know anything beyond how to check signal levels.

homealone 29-10-2008 23:03

Re: VM traffic shaping policy changed?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cook1984 (Post 34664579)
I have been hit every single day this week, despite not going over the limit. I have been trying to get an answer from VM but no luck so far. They are sending an engineer out but they don't know anything beyond how to check signal levels.

post in the virginmedia.support.broadband.cable newsgroup, they will be able to tell you if you are actually being 'hit' with stm, or not.

Welshchris 31-10-2008 07:30

Re: VM traffic shaping policy changed?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by whydoIneedatech (Post 34662313)
Not aware of any such policy and I work for them, if you feel that you are being STMed outside of the specified times then call in and ask whats going on.

i was told by the chief execs office once that VM do STM people outside the official hrs if they have over subscription issues in the area.

xspeedyx 31-10-2008 08:42

Re: VM traffic shaping policy changed?
 
Most areas of the VM network then

Toto 31-10-2008 12:40

Re: VM traffic shaping policy changed?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Welshchris (Post 34665469)
i was told by the chief execs office once that VM do STM people outside the official hrs if they have over subscription issues in the area.

Can't see that myself, as STM is an automated process on each uBR, its more likely to be some fault in the code.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cook1984 (Post 34664579)
I have been hit every single day this week, despite not going over the limit. I have been trying to get an answer from VM but no luck so far. They are sending an engineer out but they don't know anything beyond how to check signal levels.

Turn off your p2p software then ;)

piggy 31-10-2008 15:51

Re: VM traffic shaping policy changed?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Toto (Post 34665616)
Can't see that myself, as STM is an automated process on each uBR, its more likely to be some fault in the code.

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Turn off your p2p software then ;)

:D

Chrysalis 31-10-2008 19:03

Re: VM traffic shaping policy changed?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Welshchris (Post 34665469)
i was told by the chief execs office once that VM do STM people outside the official hrs if they have over subscription issues in the area.

at my old address STM would be needed 24/7 :( congestion was evident over 22 hours a day.


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