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Watching You 11-07-2008 14:56

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wallis00

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I've allways been under the impression that Virgin Media was owned by Sir Richard Branson or he has Shares in the company. I've never been certain and can't back up what im saying to say if its true or false.

However I was at work Yesterday and one of the Security Guards said he used to work for Virgin Media as an Engineer and said to me that its owned by NTL:Telewest still but uses the Virgin brand so Sir Richard Branson gets paid a loyalty fee.
Some basic Economics 101, when a company like Virgin or NTL needs to raise capital there are several ways they can go about this, one borrow from banks, issues bonds or float/ go public issuing shares. Or sell off part of the company as NTL did to Virgin, especially if the brand image is poor.

All have their risks, as every year stockholders demand their returns (profits) and unless you delivery you can be voted out by shareholders. As with the case in Northern Rock borrowing from banks is equally risky. Because the brand of Virgin is strong there may be a 51% (49%) ownership by NTL or Virgin (I am guessing here). Either way its doesn’t matter too much as long as the brand (Virgin) remains strong. After all would you rather fly NTL Airlines or Virgin Atlantic??

(P.S) Virgin Airlines is part owned by Singapore Airlines who have 49% stake in the company.

whydoIneedatech 11-07-2008 20:15

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Originally Posted by tvtimes (Post 34597338)
Don't Virgin group own the shares? Hence that's a company too! He just happens to be the founder and chairman of Virgin group.

Here's a link for you to read http://money.cnn.com/galleries/2008/...ortune/18.html

Branson's Virgin group is the largest shareholder. That article is old now and riversource and the largest shareholders.

We were told his own personal share in Virgin is 10% during induction training, where we are treated a Company history overview which also tells us how many companies worldwide come under the Virgin banner all of which we can get a discount with.

chuzzlemonkey 11-07-2008 20:18

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Originally Posted by Watching You (Post 34597622)
wallis00
Or sell off part of the company as NTL did to Virgin, especially if the brand image is poor.

NTL didn't sell anything...NTL:Telewest bought the image rights from Dickie B and gave him a stake in the company in return.

A lot of people seem to think that 'Virgin took over'


Not the case!

whydoIneedatech 11-07-2008 20:29

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Originally Posted by Haggis23 (Post 34597945)
NTL didn't sell anything...NTL:Telewest bought the image rights from Dickie B and gave him a stake in the company in return.

A lot of people seem to think that 'Virgin took over'


Not the case!

Leased the image rights;)

chuzzlemonkey 11-07-2008 20:32

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Originally Posted by whydoIneedatech (Post 34597958)
Leased the image rights;)

lol FIIINE leased!

5 years initially i believe?

whydoIneedatech 11-07-2008 20:35

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Originally Posted by Haggis23 (Post 34597964)
lol FIIINE leased!

5 years initially i believe?

Something daft like that.

Its just like a Snickers bar which used to a Marathon bar and some people prefer Marathon bars:p::rofl:

chuzzlemonkey 11-07-2008 20:45

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Originally Posted by whydoIneedatech (Post 34597967)
Something daft like that.

Its just like a Snickers bar which used to a Marathon bar and some people prefer Marathon bars:p::rofl:

Aha yea but who's gona prefer NTL to VM?

Telewest maybe...
:D

whydoIneedatech 11-07-2008 20:47

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Originally Posted by Haggis23 (Post 34597978)
Aha yea but who's gona prefer NTL to VM?

Telewest maybe...
:D

You know who I prefer just by looking to the left under my avatar :p:

chuzzlemonkey 11-07-2008 21:11

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Originally Posted by whydoIneedatech (Post 34597979)
You know who I prefer just by looking to the left under my avatar :p:

lol I'm with you! Although to be honest i enjoyed it just as much when it was Telewest.

whydoIneedatech 11-07-2008 21:25

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Originally Posted by Haggis23 (Post 34598003)
lol I'm with you! Although to be honest i enjoyed it just as much when it was Telewest.

I remember it being Cable northwest up here, best stop as we are of topic:D

arcamalpha2004 13-07-2008 07:02

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Originally Posted by willas00 (Post 34581741)
I've allways been under the impression that Virgin Media was owned by Sir Richard Branson or he has Shares in the company. I've never been certain and can't back up what im saying to say if its true or false.

However I was at work Yesterday and one of the Security Guards said he used to work for Virgin Media as an Engineer and said to me that its owned by NTL:Telewest still but uses the Virgin brand so Sir Richard Branson gets paid a loyalty fee.

Which of course would be correct either way but could someone confirm whats true and not in regards to who owns the company.

Thanks


The security Guard is correct.
Ntl had an image problem so decided to pay out of their customer subcriptions a loyalty fee for the Virgin name, but at the end of the day it is still NTL imo.

whydoIneedatech 13-07-2008 10:04

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Originally Posted by arcamalpha2004 (Post 34598697)
The security Guard is correct.
Ntl had an image problem so decided to pay out of their customer subcriptions a loyalty fee for the Virgin name, but at the end of the day it is still NTL imo.

Its still NTL and Telewest;)

BenMcr 13-07-2008 10:15

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And as I've said before, the residential managment board have more ex-telewest people on it than ex-ntl (as Neil Berkett is the only ex-ntl person there) and most of the technology is ex-tw (the billing system, the code behind the EPG etc)

tvtimes 17-07-2008 09:01

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Originally Posted by whydoIneedatech (Post 34597940)
We were told his own personal share in Virgin is 10% during induction training, where we are treated a Company history overview which also tells us how many companies worldwide come under the Virgin banner all of which we can get a discount with.

How long ago was your training? Shares drop and rise, people buy and sell every day. RB may have been the biggest shareholder then but he isn't now? For all i know though he could be again today! The stock market is a wonderful thing. Last heard news was Riversource has bought lot's more shares and had more than RB.

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Originally Posted by Haggis23 (Post 34597964)
lol FIIINE leased!

5 years initially i believe?

Yep, to see if they can turn it round. RB has a 30 year get out clause to the contract incase NTL can't shake off their negative image.

whydoIneedatech 17-07-2008 14:56

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Originally Posted by tvtimes (Post 34601837)
How long ago was your training? Shares drop and rise, people buy and sell every day. RB may have been the biggest shareholder then but he isn't now? For all i know though he could be again today! The stock market is a wonderful thing. Last heard news was Riversource has bought lot's more shares and had more than RB.

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Yep, to see if they can turn it round. RB has a 30 year get out clause to the contract incase NTL can't shake off their negative image.

He has a 10% Personal share not company share so the will be companies with bigger slices than him.


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