Re: The Virgin Media cabinets in the street
 

The council give permission for all civils - They do not need to consult HO's although I think they do if locating a bus stop.

The network was built almost a decade ago!

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Re: The Virgin Media cabinets in the street
 

Were you the householder when the cabinets were placed there? Did you raise any objections to the placement if you were?

Re: The Virgin Media cabinets in the street
 

OP PM'd me I asked that, they were there before the build apparently. Cab was there when got home one evening.

Re: The Virgin Media cabinets in the street
 

That would be in the submissions during the planning process.

Cost comparison of positioning junction boxes in line with footpaths versus the extra hassle of crossing a road - e.g. managing traffic during full/partial road closure, for no technical reason, would have been a consideration.

I do seem to remember, although it was a while ago, now, getting a notification of the planned works & the procedure if I wanted to protest.

I do sympathise, as I said, but the problem is to change the perception of the cool place to gather, in my opinion - the seat mentioned earlier is a good idea to try :tu:

Re: The Virgin Media cabinets in the street
 

Benmcr - I can't remember exactly when they appeared but there was no discussion/ notification that they were ever going to be there - as I said - came home one day and there they were, right outside my house about 6 mtrs from my living room. I admit at first I didn't think anything about it until about a month or so later when I noticed that having my windows open I was hearing voices so loud I was becoming part of the 'conversation'. From that day til today I cannot have windows open at the front of my house as whenever the 'kids are perching' I have no choise but to listen to their nonsensical chatter and yelling, shouting, kicking of the boxes etc. - There is nothing anyone can say that makes it OK for this situation to continue. If VM can't / won't do anything about this, I will take it further.

Re: The Virgin Media cabinets in the street
 

Which would involve either speaking to the police or the council, both of which people have already suggested you do.

If other neighbours are also affected, maybe you can get the council to pay to get it moved? Or get them to issues ASBOs? IF the damage is criminal to either Virgin property or your own, surely the police would do something?

Re: The Virgin Media cabinets in the street
 

Both Police and Council are involved already - kids that I know are 'going to be spoken to' but i have no idea who some of them are - hopefully the chicken pellet appllication will deter them - and with any luck the kids will have to fnd somewhere else to have their cheap night out!!!

Re: The Virgin Media cabinets in the street
 

If these kids are being a real nuisance lulukimmi, why not invest in one of these high pitched noise makers? Its called the mosquito and emits a high pitched sound only teenagers can hear, in experiments most kids could only stand the noise for a few minutes, and best of all people over 25 can't hear it.:)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/wiltshire/conte..._feature.shtml

Re: The Virgin Media cabinets in the street
 

The kids that you do know, have you tried speaking to them yourself, telling them you find the noise really disruptive?
Or have you gone out shouting like Victor Meldrew giving them hassle?
If it's the latter and I was one of the children I'd be there every night just to wind you up.
You say that council are involved, in what way?
By trying to issue ASBOs or by trying to find somewhere else for them to congregate, like a community centre run by people with a genuine interest in kids and keeping them off the streets.
Adults very quickly forget what it's like to be a child or a teenager.
Adults with grown up angelic children forget even faster.
I speak as a mother of four energetic, loud confident daughters who have a healthy respect for their neighbourhood and for adults who don't shout abuse at them for being children and making noise as children do.
Have you tried speaking to the parents?
Any adult who comes to me and has a complaint about any of my kids is taken seriously.
I don't believe for a minute my children are angels, but it makes a difference whether the adult is calm, clear and concise, or ranting and raving like a loony escaped from the nuthouse.
There's also the kids who know 9/10 times I'll believe the adult and they're then in trouble.

Sorry for the long post but if these kids are drinking, having sex, using drugs or vandalising your area or property which is happening in a lot of places, then fair enough I see your point.
But if they're just being children making children noise leave them alone or move into a retirement home with a warden.
Or better yet help the council to start something up that will keep these children off the street in the evenings.


Mags

Re: The Virgin Media cabinets in the street
 

We have had this problem in this area before and we have put pointed tops on the boxes so the kids can not sit on them .One customer decided to smear oil and paint on one box and was told by the poilce and council to clean it up as the techs kept getting it on our selfs .If you do this the right way VM will do something about it but moving the cab is the very last option and its the councils say .It could be yes it has to be moved and we have to do it at our cost or yes it can be moved but you have to pay .Most of the time its the second one as VM would appeal and yes i have seen this done and they won .When a the network is at planning stage the council would but out a notice the houses near where the box s to be put if there are no objections then we can put the box there .It is the councils doing as we had a number of these rejected when the network was built .

Re: The Virgin Media cabinets in the street
 

I have spoken to the parents of the kids that I know in a calm and reasonable manner and have been told by them that they 'will speak to the kids'. They do stay away for one or two nights but do come back. These are not little kids they are between 14-19. I do remember being their age and I would never even consider hanging around in the street. If they were to behave in a quiet manner I would have nothing to complain about. However when you hear the screeching these kids emit together with the kicking of these boxes hour after hour, you would complain too.

Re: The Virgin Media cabinets in the street
 

I have a big problem with that thing though. It targets everyone under 25, not just those causing trouble. So a mother with their 3 year old walking by would have their toddler affected

If the device was aimed at people in their 30's rather than young people, everyone would be up in arms.

And when you come up with reasons for it, try do the same arguments against any other minority and you soon see how discriminatory it is

Re: The Virgin Media cabinets in the street
 

Ben I know this option is far from ideal, but if the OPs home life is being made a misery, and the police are failing to act, I feel he has every right to do what he can that's legal to enjoy his home life in peace. As regards this device affecting say normal passers by, I'm not suggesting for him to leave it on permanently, just put it on when all else fails.

Re: The Virgin Media cabinets in the street
 

There's no way you could leave it on all day, it's not like when someone hits their 25th birthday they suddenly can't hear the noise. I'm 26 and can hear them, my 29 year old brother can also hear them. Pretty annoying.

Re: The Virgin Media cabinets in the street
 

Do they work indie?