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dev 29-11-2007 02:16

Re: Virgin Media announces 50mb lines from next year.
 
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Originally Posted by TraxData (Post 34442387)
Just those going onto 50mbit will need a new modem.

Docsis3 will be set on a different frequency, so wont affect lower tiers.

Will actually release stress from the current network.

Clone status = zero on docsis3, their days are nearly over :)

correct me if i'm wrong but, different frequencies would mean 2 separate 'networks' but over the same cables and so congestion on the lower tiers wont affect the 50mb tier and vice versa?

regarding the cloning, is that a physically possibility or just a 'its hard to get hold of a docsis3 compliant modem so it'll happen eventually' thing?

TraxData 29-11-2007 02:26

Re: Virgin Media announces 50mb lines from next year.
 
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Originally Posted by dev (Post 34442394)
correct me if i'm wrong but, different frequencies would mean 2 separate 'networks' but over the same cables and so congestion on the lower tiers wont affect the 50mb tier and vice versa?

regarding the cloning, is that a physically possibility or just a 'its hard to get hold of a docsis3 compliant modem so it'll happen eventually' thing?

Correct :) and as to your question on docsis3, its not so much the implementation of docsis3, as that will get cracked eventually, its more the new system they have been testing with docsis3, hackers simply aint gonna be bale to get around it for quite some time, and if/when they do, they'll be caught rather easily.

xspeedyx 29-11-2007 08:19

Re: Virgin Media announces 50mb lines from next year.
 
so how much does docsis 3.0 cost to implentment

TimIgoe 29-11-2007 08:23

Re: Virgin Media announces 50mb lines from next year.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TraxData (Post 34442395)
Correct :) and as to your question on docsis3, its not so much the implementation of docsis3, as that will get cracked eventually, its more the new system they have been testing with docsis3, hackers simply aint gonna be bale to get around it for quite some time, and if/when they do, they'll be caught rather easily.

a better authentication system that only legit modems can complete?

xspeedyx 29-11-2007 09:11

Re: Virgin Media announces 50mb lines from next year.
 
there is something on the new modems that will stop cloners not sure but a mate at work vm was telling me

ginge51 29-11-2007 11:49

Re: Virgin Media announces 50mb lines from next year.
 
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Originally Posted by TraxData (Post 34441780)
Lol your wrong on the upload, but lets not go there :p:

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There is no cap/STM on 50mbit, nor will there be.

Hmmmm I'll wait and see on that.

Richy99 29-11-2007 12:19

Re: Virgin Media announces 50mb lines from next year.
 
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Originally Posted by Callumpy (Post 34441940)
they cant do 8meg, nevermind 50!

cable network can phone line adsl can

vast difference in technologies

xspeedyx 29-11-2007 12:47

Re: Virgin Media announces 50mb lines from next year.
 
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Originally Posted by Richy99 (Post 34442565)
cable network can phone line adsl can

vast difference in technologies

I think he was referring to the fact he has 20mb and gets slow speeds

TraxData 29-11-2007 12:53

Re: Virgin Media announces 50mb lines from next year.
 
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Originally Posted by TimIgoe (Post 34442430)
a better authentication system that only legit modems can complete?

Also correct, amongst other things the cloners have no idea about yet, and its not information im going to discuss so they can all go jumping around working out how to get around it :p: especially since those cloners browse this site.

TimIgoe 29-11-2007 12:55

Re: Virgin Media announces 50mb lines from next year.
 
I'm not asking you to divulge anything that you don't want to / shouldn't - i'm just curious to find out anything i can ;)

Hom3r 29-11-2007 13:06

Re: Virgin Media announces 50mb lines from next year.
 
I'll be waiting for some VM CS telling me that my 250 will be able to handle 50Mb+

xspeedyx 29-11-2007 14:50

Re: Virgin Media announces 50mb lines from next year.
 
hehehehehehe it can cant it lol

dev 29-11-2007 15:21

Re: Virgin Media announces 50mb lines from next year.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by darthlinux (Post 34442633)
hehehehehehe it can cant it lol

no current modem VM use supports docsis3 afaik.

i assume when the original docsis was brought about, cloning wasnt an issue (much like email spam), but seeing as docsis3 will require modem swaps, VM have now got time to come up with ways to "stop" the cloning and won't have to worry about compatibility with existing modems as they'll need to be swapped anyway

xspeedyx 29-11-2007 15:47

Re: Virgin Media announces 50mb lines from next year.
 
omfg I was been stupid of cousre the 250's cant handle 50 mb but I am customer care thats why I said it because the the prev post said he is waiting for cs to tell him the 250's can handle 50Mb

some people

Sirius 29-11-2007 19:15

Re: Virgin Media announces 50mb lines from next year.
 
I will not be holding my breath over this. There again it might mean i will get 20mb if i sign for the 50 mb :LOL:


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