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Ramrod 02-07-2007 10:43

Re: Floods are a judgement on society, say bishops
 
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Originally Posted by Chris T (Post 34341669)
Considering you lot think it's all fairytales, you don't half let it wind you up! :erm:

Amused bemusement really......till the people who believe in fairy tales hand down judgement on the rest of based on those fairy tales......thats when I get angry.

Chris 02-07-2007 10:46

Re: Floods are a judgement on society, say bishops
 
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Originally Posted by Ramrod (Post 34341673)
Amused bemusement really......till the people who believe in fairy tales hand down judgement on the rest of based on those fairy tales......thats when I get angry.

Now I'm bemused ... what sort of judgement can a Bishop possibly exercise over those who don't believe? Surely if you think it's nonsense, what a Bishop says is completely irrelevant to you.

Hugh 02-07-2007 10:51

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Originally Posted by Chris T (Post 34341678)
Now I'm bemused ... what sort of judgement can a Bishop possibly exercise over those who don't believe? Surely if you think it's nonsense, what a Bishop says is completely irrelevant to you.

But if the people who do believe take his word as gospel (excuse the pun), and then start treating "others" (as defined by the Bish) as evil/bad, then it does affect those who don't believe (and btw, I do).

Ramrod 02-07-2007 10:54

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Originally Posted by Chris T (Post 34341678)
Now I'm bemused ... what sort of judgement can a Bishop possibly exercise over those who don't believe? Surely if you think it's nonsense, what a Bishop says is completely irrelevant to you.

It's the fact that he even says it that bothers me. Thats the kind of thinking that gets us bombed by religious nuts of other persuasions.

Chris 02-07-2007 10:56

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Originally Posted by foreverwar (Post 34341684)
But if the people who do believe take his word as gospel (excuse the pun), and then start treating "others" (as defined by the Bish) as evil/bad, then it does affect those who don't believe (and btw, I do).

But for people to do that, they would have to accept what the Bishop says about judgment on society, whilst ignoring what the Bishop says about forgiveness and new life in Jesus, loving your enemies, and so on.

The entirety of Christian theology is absolutely colossal. It's not reasonable to take one single statement by one of its teachers made on one particular day and then assume that people would, or should, act solely on that.

Nugget 02-07-2007 10:57

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 34341151)
hmmm so god works for ne lincs council...that explains the high council tax :angel:

M'eh, you're just living in the wrong bit ;)

Actually, this must mean that everyone on Nug Street are totally righteous, seeing as the river at one end didn't breach, and the clogged drains actually managed to deal with the water this time.

Anyone else want to bask in my glory :angel: :D

Chris 02-07-2007 10:58

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Originally Posted by Ramrod (Post 34341687)
It's the fact that he even says it that bothers me. Thats the kind of thinking that gets us bombed by religious nuts of other persuasions.

I can't speak for other religious persuasions. I can only speak for the Christian one, and whilst I know you're not a believer, I think you are sufficiently well-acquainted with the life and teachings of Jesus to know that he never, at any stage, advocated the use of force by his disciples to make a point. Quite the contrary, in fact.

danielf 02-07-2007 11:03

Re: Floods are a judgement on society, say bishops
 
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Originally Posted by Chris T (Post 34341678)
Now I'm bemused ... what sort of judgement can a Bishop possibly exercise over those who don't believe? Surely if you think it's nonsense, what a Bishop says is completely irrelevant to you.

This Bishop apparently thinks that either he is qualified to comment on God's intentions and thoughts when it comes to happenings in daily life (which I would imagine religious people would find extremely arrogant; I'd be interested to hear what you think of this), or thinks he can use his religion to comment on how other people lead their life, which I find extremely arrogant and patronising.

Mr Angry 02-07-2007 11:04

Re: Floods are a judgement on society, say bishops
 
Luke 19:27

But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay before me.

Russ 02-07-2007 11:17

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Well, it HAS only been about 2 weeks since the last religion-bashing thread :dozey:

Nugget 02-07-2007 11:18

Re: Floods are a judgement on society, say bishops
 
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Originally Posted by Mr Angry (Post 34341703)
Luke 19:27

But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay before me.

Shouldn't that be '...I should rain over them...' ;)

Mr Angry 02-07-2007 11:20

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Originally Posted by Nugget (Post 34341707)
Shouldn't that be '...I should rain over them...' ;)

Nugget, I think you may have a point there!!

danielf 02-07-2007 11:21

Re: Floods are a judgement on society, say bishops
 
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Originally Posted by Russ B (Post 34341706)
Well, it HAS only been about 2 weeks since the last religion-bashing thread :dozey:

Which begs the question of who started this. I think there is a case to be made for saying the bishop did.

Nugget 02-07-2007 11:25

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Originally Posted by danielf (Post 34341713)
Which begs the question of who started this. I think there is a case to be made for saying the bishop did.

Now now - we'll have no bishop bashing on this forum :disturbd:

Hugh 02-07-2007 11:29

Re: Floods are a judgement on society, say bishops
 
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Originally Posted by Russ B (Post 34341706)
Well, it HAS only been about 2 weeks since the last religion-bashing thread :dozey:

Russ, I am not trying to bash religion (as I am a practitioner), just one person's reported comments, using his position within a religion to give those comments added weight.


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