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Rik 09-05-2007 09:02

Re: how about we start a campaign to let VM know that we DONT LIKE SHAPING
 
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Originally Posted by Paul H (Post 34298533)
Why do some of the pro throttling people have this crazy idea? and of the opinion that this is all that is needed to do to make everyone happy? :confused:

Yes I apologise, it was a really really crazy idea!!! :D:D

It wont happen again ;)

Lew 09-05-2007 09:10

Re: how about we start a campaign to let VM know that we DONT LIKE SHAPING
 
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Originally Posted by m044bz00 (Post 34298480)
So i'm a bandwidth abuser eh, I work from home mostly doing video editing and constantly download and upload to the works server via their upload 2Mbps connection meaning I'm downloading from them at around 240Kbps, at that speed which is a FIFTH of the speed I'm paying for I'll still break their limits within 3.5 hours.

Then you should be using a business connection. VM's home broadband is meant for home users, not business users.

videodj 09-05-2007 09:10

Re: how about we start a campaign to let VM know that we DONT LIKE SHAPING
 
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Originally Posted by Paul H (Post 34298533)
Why do some of the pro throttling people have this crazy idea? and of the opinion that this is all that is needed to do to make everyone happy? :confused:

Because it's what alot of people do, if I'm in in the evening, I only surf the net and use xbox live. My downloads run over night or when I'm at work. I connect remotely and set them up, it's easy.

Traffic shaping is better than a monthly limit and it's only a few hours a day. Why do people have to downloaded 24/7 at full speed, do you just d/l for something to do?

Virgin is still better than ADSL for limits and a reliable connection, so suck it up and stop whinging.:mad:

Paul H 09-05-2007 09:15

Re: how about we start a campaign to let VM know that we DONT LIKE SHAPING
 
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Originally Posted by Rik (Post 34298540)
Yes I apologise, it was a really really crazy idea!!! :D:D

It wont happen again ;)

Good! :)

BlackAle 09-05-2007 09:18

Re: how about we start a campaign to let VM know that we DONT LIKE SHAPING
 
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Originally Posted by supercyber (Post 34298457)
simple VM does not have to offer upserd speeds like 20Mb service if they cant handel. the simple solution, like offer 5Mbit service, but keep it unmetered, unlimted. i am sure more ppl go for 5Mbit unmetered serivce over 20Mbit f ed up service.

Your suggestion is ridiculous, why should those who don't download download download have to suffer with a 5Mbit connection just to appease those who suffer from downloading OCD.

I love my 10Mbit connection and look forward to getting 20Mbit, it'll allow me to download the same content in upto half the time, fabulous!

Paul H 09-05-2007 09:22

Re: how about we start a campaign to let VM know that we DONT LIKE SHAPING
 
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Originally Posted by videodj (Post 34298545)
Because it's what alot of people do, if I'm in in the evening, I only surf the net and use xbox live. My downloads run over night or when I'm at work. I connect remotely and set them up, it's easy.

Traffic shaping is better than a monthly limit and it's only a few hours a day. Why do people have to downloaded 24/7 at full speed, do you just d/l for something to do?

Virgin is still better than ADSL for limits and a reliable connection, so suck it up and stop whinging.:mad:

What you do with your connection is not going to be the same as what a lot of other people do with theirs. and please will people stop accusing the people of complaining, of downloading 24/7.

Virgin is not better than ADSL for limits and a reliable connection. your opinion is not fact. so suck it up yourself.

Rone 09-05-2007 09:30

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"Traffic shaping is better than a monthly limit "

Amen to that.

videodj 09-05-2007 09:30

Re: how about we start a campaign to let VM know that we DONT LIKE SHAPING
 
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Originally Posted by Paul H (Post 34298553)
What you do with your connection is not going to be the same as what a lot of other people do with theirs. and please will people stop accusing the people of complaining, of downloading 24/7.

Virgin is not better than ADSL for limits and a reliable connection. your opinion is not fact. so suck it up yourself.

I've used both and can assure you cable is better, most ADSL providers enforce caps and limits.

Yes everyone uses their connection differently, but the majority of users will use their connection in the evening, so there is always going to be more strain on the network at these times. I'd rather have 5mb than 1mb because not shaping was in place. At the end of the day the service is sold as upto 10mb, it doesn't say 10mb all the time.

I also think you'll find many people share my opinion about ADSL and Cable.

lowhydrogen 09-05-2007 09:31

Re: how about we start a campaign to let VM know that we DONT LIKE SHAPING
 
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Originally Posted by BlackAle (Post 34298550)
Your suggestion is ridiculous, why should those who don't download download download have to suffer with a 5Mbit connection just to appease those who suffer for downloading OCD.

I love my 10Mbit connection and look forward to getting 20Mbit, it'll allow me to download the same content in upto half the time, fabulous!


if they dont "download download download" as you say why on earth would they need a 20 meg connection?
for a web page?? that must be some webby :shocked:

mark1979 09-05-2007 09:35

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Originally Posted by videodj (Post 34298545)

Traffic shaping is better than a monthly limit and it's only a few hours a day. Why do people have to downloaded 24/7 at full speed, do you just d/l for something to do?

i download at full speed most days,all day. im on a 10mb connection but get a contant 7.5mb-8mb speed which i can live with

i choose to do this as i pay for the service and i will use it as i please. when i get shaping applied to me i cant moan as ive used my connection to the max for a long time,plus ive never had any problems with my line etc etc

i was wandering if because my area is not as populated with as many vm users(as bigger cities),perhaps that why the speeds are constant reliable?

by the way im the newton abbot area(south west)

BlackAle 09-05-2007 09:41

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Originally Posted by lowhydrogen (Post 34298560)
if they dont "download download download" as you say why on earth would they need a 20 meg connection?
for a web page?? that must be some webby :shocked:

I download a fair bit, about 100gigs a month, though I only download stuff I want and am going to use. My bandwidth usage has stayed pretty constant the last few years as my speed has gone up.

So, I want a 20mbit connection, so I can get the stuff I want, quick! ...I would of thought that was obvious.

mark1979 09-05-2007 09:46

Re: how about we start a campaign to let VM know that we DONT LIKE SHAPING
 
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Originally Posted by BlackAle (Post 34298569)
I download a fair bit, about 100gigs a month, though I only download stuff I want and am going to use. My bandwidth usage has stayed pretty constant the last few years as my speed has gone up.

So, I want a 20mbit connection, so I can get the stuff I want, quick! ...I would of thought that was obvious.


damn right!!!!

totaly agree with that.

i look at it like this, when i get my 20mb upgrade i will get stuff quicker fair enough but i will also get twice as much!!!! if i pay for something im gonna use it to the limits!!

lowhydrogen 09-05-2007 09:50

Re: how about we start a campaign to let VM know that we DONT LIKE SHAPING
 
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Originally Posted by BlackAle (Post 34298569)
I download a fair bit, about 100gigs a month, though I only download stuff I want and am going to use. My bandwidth usage has stayed pretty constant the last few years as my speed has gone up.

So, I want a 20mbit connection, so I can get the stuff I want, quick! ...I would of thought that was obvious.

i didn't mention you i said they, the ones you said don't "download download download"

Brainfish 09-05-2007 09:52

Re: how about we start a campaign to let VM know that we DONT LIKE SHAPING
 
In principle I'm in favour of traffic shaping. What's galling me is that outside of these peak hours, they can't/won't provide me with the service I'm paying for. I'm lucky if I get above a 5mb connection and I have never been able to achieve anywhere near the 20mb I'm paying for

zing_deleted 09-05-2007 10:06

Re: how about we start a campaign to let VM know that we DONT LIKE SHAPING
 
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Originally Posted by Merlin99uk (Post 34298489)
big snip.

Hello I dont spose you run a certain portal do you lol . Sorry to hear about yoru speed issues


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