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Hans Gruber 01-09-2005 11:03
Re: [Merged] All 24Mb DSL Discussions.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ian@huth
The usage policy and T&C links don't appear to link to anything on their servers.
https://www.bethere.co.uk/beonline/acceptableUse.do
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Originally Posted by punky
Doesn't mention about wether there is a contract period or not? Don't really need all the router stuff.
from https://www.bethere.co.uk/beonline/t...ditionshome.do

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What is the contract period and how does it end?


Unlike most ISPs it's about as short as it gets. Your Service starts on the date that you have both received your welcome pack (including the Be Box modem) and you are connected to our Service in your local BT exchange. You can terminate your Be contract at any time without paying any cancellation fees, providing you give us three (3) months' termination notice in writing (by email, fax or letter). However, if you wish to terminate your account with less than three (3) months' notice, there's an express cancellation administrative fee of ?50. For express cancellations requested in writing before the 22nd of the month, Service will be terminated at the end of the month. For express cancellations requested after the 22nd of the month, Service will be terminated at the end of the following month.

Be may terminate your contract or suspend Services if:

<LI>you don't pay us, by the due date, any money you owe us; or
<LI>you misuse our Service (see our 'Fair and acceptable usage policy', )

Either you or Be may terminate your contract by giving thirty (30) day' written notice to the other if:

<LI>there has been a material breach of these Terms by the other party (and this isn't remedied within thirty (30) days of a written notice notifying the breach)
<LI>an event, outside its reasonable control, prevents continued provision of the Services for more than thirty (30) days
the other is unable to pay its debts (within the meaning of section 123 of the Insolvency Act 1986); or becomes insolvent or bankrupt; or is subject to an order or a resolution for its liquidation, administration, winding-up or dissolution (otherwise than for the purposes of a solvent amalgamation or reconstruction); or makes an application to a court of competent jurisdiction for protection from its creditors generally; or has an administrative or other receiver, manager, trustee, liquidator, administrator or similar officer appointed over all or any substantial part of its assets; or enters into or proposes any composition or arrangement with its creditors generally; or is subject to any analogous event or proceeding in any applicable jurisdiction
All seems pretty standard and reasonable stuff to me

ian@huth 01-09-2005 11:26
Re: [Merged] All 24Mb DSL Discussions.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hans Gruber
Quote:
Originally Posted by ian@huth
The usage policy and T&C links don't appear to link to anything on their servers.
https://www.bethere.co.uk/beonline/acceptableUse.do
Hmmm, seems at odds with the use of the word "unlimited". I would think that most heavy users that are looking for a fast, unlimited service will have a usage that contravenes at least one of the conditions. Not unusual though, every ISP has some clause that they can use to restrict heavy users on their network.

Hans Gruber 01-09-2005 11:48
Re: [Merged] All 24Mb DSL Discussions.
 
Every ISP since the dawn of time has had pretty much the same restrictions to the service

Hans Gruber 01-09-2005 15:23
Re: [Merged] All 24Mb DSL Discussions.
 
Looks like UK Online are getting in on the action, 24mbit for under 30 quid. Sounds good to me!


http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/09/01/llu_service/

punky 01-09-2005 16:28
Re: [Merged] All 24Mb DSL Discussions.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hans Gruber
Looks like UK Online are getting in on the action, 24mbit for under 30 quid. Sounds good to me!
Considering they can't give Zingle an 8meg connection, I'm not certainly i'm going to trust them to give me a 24meg connection!

Hans Gruber 01-09-2005 16:47
Re: [Merged] All 24Mb DSL Discussions.
 
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Originally Posted by punky
Considering they can't give Zingle an 8meg connection, I'm not certainly i'm going to trust them to give me a 24meg connection!
If everyone took one bad experience to judge an ISP I don't think NTL would have any customers. I think I'd take my chances if it was available on my line. :)

andymt 01-09-2005 17:12
Re: [Merged] All 24Mb DSL Discussions.
 
yes....


telewest and ntl will be playing catch up..
they are just upgrading to 10mb now, in the next few months it could be that ppl on bt broadband are paying £24.99 for 8mb/possibly 18/possibly 24
and we pay £35 for 10mb!!

punky 01-09-2005 17:21
Re: [Merged] All 24Mb DSL Discussions.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hans Gruber
If everyone took one bad experience to judge an ISP I don't think NTL would have any customers. I think I'd take my chances if it was available on my line. :)
True... My connection is flawless, when I don't think anyone in Coventry on NTL ever had decent broadband a day in their lives... But word of mouth and perception is important. The fact its been dragging on many months now doesn't bode well.

Unfortunately, they aren't rated sufficiently to appear on adslguide, so I have no idea if its an exception or the rule :shrug:

Chrysalis 01-09-2005 21:27
Re: [Merged] All 24Mb DSL Discussions.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by punky
True... My connection is flawless, when I don't think anyone in Coventry on NTL ever had decent broadband a day in their lives... But word of mouth and perception is important. The fact its been dragging on many months now doesn't bode well.

Unfortunately, they aren't rated sufficiently to appear on adslguide, so I have no idea if its an exception or the rule :shrug:
From what I heard of friend's ukonline's adsl is very good, performance and reliability wise, but the customer service is very poor with long waiting times. Now not everyone will get the max speed, ADSL is distance dependant and its the nature of the service.

As far as problems dragging on for months well NTL is king of that, it has the worst reputation as well, I would certianly call NTL more of a gamble then ukonline.

andymt 02-09-2005 08:26
Re: [Merged] All 24Mb DSL Discussions.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chrysalis
ADSL is distance dependant and its the nature of the service.
Yes but asdl2+ is not as much distance baced.

8mb will be distance based, so not everyone will get 8mb, but when adsl2+ comes out (18mb, 24mb) It wont really be distance based, it will just depend on whether the exchange is equipped.

This will also prepare for vdsl.

Hans Gruber 02-09-2005 13:01
Re: [Merged] All 24Mb DSL Discussions.
 
http://www.ispreview.co.uk/cgi-bin/n...yulVFZZaPYLjFF

Well 'Be' has hooked up their first customer and they've received 18.5mbit :Yikes:

I'm not at all jealous, no really. :rolleyes:

andymt 02-09-2005 16:35
Re: [Merged] All 24Mb DSL Discussions.
 
yes, bt and therefore wholesale companies are releasing 8mb STANDARD in october, and then 18mb.


for £24.99 from telewest u will get 4meg unlimited, same price from bt=18mb capped...
hmmmm

Ignition 02-09-2005 21:23
Re: [Merged] All 24Mb DSL Discussions.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by andymt
yes, bt and therefore wholesale companies are releasing 8mb STANDARD in october, and then 18mb.


for £24.99 from telewest u will get 4meg unlimited, same price from bt=18mb capped...
hmmmm
8Mbit isn't going to be the standard, speeds above 2Mbit will at least for the foreseeable future be available only to those who are already able to take a 2Mbit service on a BTW line.

18Mbit / ADSL2+ is awaiting any confirmation from BT as to when it'll be deployed.

Personally I'd rather have 4Mbit uncapped than 18Mbit with BT's farcical 1GB/month or 15GB/month caps, although agreed it may suit some.

Gareth 02-09-2005 22:01
Re: [Merged] All 24Mb DSL Discussions.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ignition
Personally I'd rather have 4Mbit uncapped than 18Mbit with BT's farcical 1GB/month or 15GB/month caps, although agreed it may suit some.
You and me both :Yes:

Chrysalis 03-09-2005 02:43
Re: [Merged] All 24Mb DSL Discussions.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ignition
8Mbit isn't going to be the standard, speeds above 2Mbit will at least for the foreseeable future be available only to those who are already able to take a 2Mbit service on a BTW line.

18Mbit / ADSL2+ is awaiting any confirmation from BT as to when it'll be deployed.

Personally I'd rather have 4Mbit uncapped than 18Mbit with BT's farcical 1GB/month or 15GB/month caps, although agreed it may suit some.
Agree


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