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Nemesis 22-04-2005 13:41
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Good, now we have that established, back on topic please ...

Russ 22-04-2005 13:41
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No, you're right - it's about the new law in spain allowing gay marriage. Some one asked Russ why he doesn't agree...?
And you decided to answer for me! That'll teach you eh? :D

orangebird 22-04-2005 13:41
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Here's a new one for OB - why not actually read my posts? You'll find out then, rather than my repeating myself.

Any chance of an apology for the false assumption?
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Too right it's not.
Oh, ok. So you don't agree with the children bit, but you're happy with the gay marriage bit?

Nemesis 22-04-2005 13:42
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I SAID BREAK IT UP

Stop goading each other .... and leave it .... :mad: :mad: :mad:

Russ 22-04-2005 13:42
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Oh, ok. So you don't agree with the children bit, but you're happy with the gay marriage bit?
No.

Graham 22-04-2005 13:42
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Why dont you agree? :confused:
Because I don't want my children growing up thinking that same-sex couples having children is natural.
So you eat your meat raw and sleep in a cave or up a tree...?

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People will bleat on about "as long as they love the child then it doesn't matter" but then again they are usually incredibly naive or have no children of their own as being a parent is about far more than that.
Being a parent means (or, at least should mean!) bringing up a child in a safe and nurturing environment and teaching them what they need to know to get on in the world.

Nowhere does it say "one man, one woman", especially since that format is relatively new in human history as many children have grown up in extended families or tribal societies over the past few million years.

Nemesis 22-04-2005 13:43
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Right .... any more goading or off topic postings, and this thread is toast.

NitroNutter 22-04-2005 13:45
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Originally Posted by orangebird
Oh, well, if it's not because of your faith that you don't agree, why is it?
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Originally Posted by Russ D
Because I don't want my children growing up thinking that same-sex couples having children is natural. People will bleat on about "as long as they love the child then it doesn't matter" but then again they are usually incredibly naive or have no children of their own as being a parent is about far more than that.
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And you will stop assuming what I think, seeing as you've made a bit of a mistake there. Love the pressumtions, btw.
I see a perfectly valid non religous reason in Russ's post, one I agree with and imo is almost worthy of a rep
In fact same sex marriages is really not equal at all its very one sided

orangebird 22-04-2005 13:51
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In fact same sex marriages is really not equal at all its very one sided
That was posted in jest, surely... :erm:

NitroNutter 22-04-2005 13:58
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That was posted in jest, surely... :erm:
Theres a lot more in the differences between a man and a woman than purely body parts, ie different hormones and mentalities. A child stuck in a same sex maraige is not going to get the benefit of experiencing both outlooks on life etc.

Lets say a pair of ladies adopt a boy, He will benefit from having 2 mums in exactly what way, that would be better than having a mother and a father ?

Graham 22-04-2005 14:01
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Originally Posted by NitroNutter
Theres a lot more in the differences between a man and a woman than purely body parts, ie different hormones and mentalities. A child stuck in a same sex maraige is not going to get the benefit of experiencing both outlooks on life etc.

Lets say a pair of ladies adopt a boy, He will benefit from having 2 mums in exactly what way, that would be better than having a mother and a father ?
Are you saying all women behave alike then?! :rofl:

Russ 22-04-2005 14:03
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Originally Posted by Graham
So you eat your meat raw and sleep in a cave or up a tree...?
No but I know that to produce children you need a man and a woman.


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Originally Posted by Graham
Being a parent means (or, at least should mean!) bringing up a child in a safe and nurturing environment and teaching them what they need to know to get on in the world.

Nowhere does it say "one man, one woman", especially since that format is relatively new in human history as many children have grown up in extended families or tribal societies over the past few million years.
But as your first point alludes to, times have changed. It is difficult enough being a parent and wondering how to explain a great many things in the world to your child without this sort of thing. I certainly don't agree with it but sadly for those who want to try and paint me as being an intolerant bigot, I won't be telling my daughter it's "evil" or any of that claptrap.


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sleep in a cave
Hang on.....was that a dig at me living in Wales?????? :spin:

Stuart 22-04-2005 14:06
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Originally Posted by orangebird
That was posted in jest, surely... :erm:
Theres a lot more in the differences between a man and a woman than purely body parts, ie different hormones and mentalities. A child stuck in a same sex maraige is not going to get the benefit of experiencing both outlooks on life etc.
TBH, that arguement could be applied to single parents as well.

I personally think that *if* the people involved are good parents and they love their child(ren), it doesn't matter what gender they are, or whether they are single or in a couple.

orangebird 22-04-2005 14:07
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Originally Posted by NitroNutter
Theres a lot more in the differences between a man and a woman than purely body parts, ie different hormones and mentalities. A child stuck in a same sex maraige is not going to get the benefit of experiencing both outlooks on life etc.

Lets say a pair of ladies adopt a boy, He will benefit from having 2 mums in exactly what way, that would be better than having a mother and a father ?
That little boy would fare no worse than another child that only has a mother and no father to speak of. And if that's so terrible and disfucntional for the child in the single parent family, do you suggest we make that illegal too?

Male influences come from a lot more than just a father - grandparents, friends, teachers etc.

Shaun 22-04-2005 14:07
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Originally Posted by Russ D
Because I don't want my children growing up thinking that same-sex couples having children is natural. People will bleat on about "as long as they love the child then it doesn't matter" but then again they are usually incredibly naive or have no children of their own as being a parent is about far more than that.
:rolleyes:


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