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Aragorn 22-03-2005 15:49
Re: Building my own PC
 
As long as the memory is the same, you don't need a 'Dual Channel Kit'.
Found this useful guide to Dual Channel - http://www.devhardware.com/c/a/Memory/Dual-Channel/

Ramrod 22-03-2005 16:28
Re: Building my own PC
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Aragorn
As long as the memory is the same, you don't need a 'Dual Channel Kit'.
Found this useful guide to Dual Channel - http://www.devhardware.com/c/a/Memory/Dual-Channel/
taken from there..........
Quote:
Another factor to consider is the type and quality of memory modules you get. It is highly recommended that you buy two of the same modules, and even better, at the same time. Manufacturers over time can switch what chips are in the memory. Make sure the RAM are the same speed and memory latency. You donââ‚Âà ‚¬ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¾Ã‚¢t want to buy a high speed or low latency memory only to have it washed out by the other stick, which isnââ‚Âà ‚¬ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¾Ã‚¢t as fast or possesses a higher latency. When running in dual channel each stick must perform exactly the same, so they must have the same speed and same latency.
So it would be preferable to go for the 'twinned' memories

Janusian 22-03-2005 16:34
Re: Building my own PC
 
I did this last year, and it was relatively straight forward.

I used this book (Amazon Linky) which is a Haynes style book. very user friendly and helpful, gave me a real degree of confidence. Compared to the cost of buggering it up, I thought it was money well spent.

Overall though I would recommend building your own, that way you can ensure you only use quality components, and the upgrade path is easier

Richard M 22-03-2005 17:55
Re: Building my own PC
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ramrod
Quote:
Originally Posted by Aragorn
As long as the memory is the same, you don't need a 'Dual Channel Kit'.
Found this useful guide to Dual Channel - http://www.devhardware.com/c/a/Memory/Dual-Channel/
taken from there..........
Quote:
Another factor to consider is the type and quality of memory modules you get. It is highly recommended that you buy two of the same modules, and even better, at the same time. Manufacturers over time can switch what chips are in the memory. Make sure the RAM are the same speed and memory latency. You donââ‚Âà ‚¬ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¾Ã‚¢t want to buy a high speed or low latency memory only to have it washed out by the other stick, which isnââ‚Âà ‚¬ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¾Ã‚¢t as fast or possesses a higher latency. When running in dual channel each stick must perform exactly the same, so they must have the same speed and same latency.
So it would be preferable to go for the 'twinned' memories
Yep.
Probably cheaper anyway.

Ramrod 22-03-2005 17:57
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Richard M
Yep.
Probably cheaper anyway.
Hang on one cotton pickin' minute--what do you mean by that Rich?........I don't want the cheapest option, I want the fastest option.

Richard M 22-03-2005 18:26
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I mean it might be cheaper to buy a twin pack rather than buy 2 separate sticks.
Then again, the only 512MB I can see here [http://www.overclockers.co.uk/acatalog/Corsair_XL.html] is different from the 2x512MB so I can't be sure.

Ramrod 22-03-2005 18:31
Re: Building my own PC
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Richard M
I mean it might be cheaper to buy a twin pack rather than buy 2 separate sticks.
Then again, the only 512MB I can see here [http://www.overclockers.co.uk/acatalog/Corsair_XL.html] is different from the 2x512MB so I can't be sure.
This one:
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Corsair 512MB DDR XMS3200XL Pro CAS2 (CMX512-3200XLPRO) (MY-065-CS)
Corsair XMS3200XL Extreme Low Latency uses the best chips - pre-set to aggressive memory timings of CAS2-2-2-5-1T - for those who'd rather not experiment with BIOS settings and what the absolute best memory timings. Featuring an efficient aluminum heatsink to dissipate heat and built in LEDs to show realtime memory activity. This memory uses Samsung TCCD chips which are extremely good for overclocking.
is the one I was thinking of getting but it's sold as single units.
Whereas this one:
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Corsair 1GB DDR XMS3200XL Platinum TwinX (2x512MB) CAS2 (MY-049-CS)
A matched pair of 512MB XMS3200XL Extreme Low Latency (2-5-2-2) memory modules - 1GB total - ideal for dual DDR motherboards. This memory uses Samsung TCCD chips which are extremely good for overclocking.
Is already twinned.......... and so might be the safest option :confused:

danielf 22-03-2005 18:38
Re: Building my own PC
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ramrod
Hang on one cotton pickin' minute--what do you mean by that Rich?........I don't want the cheapest option, I want the fastest option.
For playing Patience? :confused: :D

SMHarman 22-03-2005 18:53
Re: Building my own PC
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ramrod
Hang on one cotton pickin' minute--what do you mean by that Rich?........I don't want the cheapest option, I want the fastest option.
There is speed and there is speed. To get that final 4% of speed you pay an inordinate amount of money and most of the time those cpu / gpu cycles are going on the idle process and heating your house. They are also 50% cheaper 6 months later. Surely you are better spending £1500 on a killer machine now and the other grand in a few months time enhancing it back to killer status.

Ramrod 22-03-2005 19:03
Re: Building my own PC
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by SMHarman
There is speed and there is speed. To get that final 4% of speed you pay an inordinate amount of money and most of the time those cpu / gpu cycles are going on the idle process and heating your house. They are also 50% cheaper 6 months later. Surely you are better spending £1500 on a killer machine now and the other grand in a few months time enhancing it back to killer status.
Absalutely........but I was only talking about the RAM :D

Richard M 22-03-2005 19:07
Re: Building my own PC
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ramrod
Quote:
Originally Posted by danielf
For playing Patience? :confused: :D
*slap* :D

Rich..........what do you think of this ram..........apparently tested spesifically on 'Athlon 64 FX-based dual-channel motherboard'
Pointless, that is expensive registered memory which only socket 940 needs.
I'd seriously get the black ones nearest (but not at) the top here:
Quote:
Corsair 1GB DDR XMS3200XL Pro TwinX (2x512MB) CAS2 (MY-050-CS)
A matched pair of 512MB XMS3200XL ExtremeLow Latency (2-5-2-2) Pro memory modules - 1GB total - ideal for dual DDR motherboards. Featuring an efficient aluminum heatsink to dissipate heat and built in LEDs to show realtime memory activity. This memory uses Samsung TCCD chips which are extremely good for overclocking.


Full Specification

Price: £164.95 (£193.8 2 Including VAT at 17.5%)
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/acatalog/Corsair_XL.html

Ramrod 22-03-2005 19:25
Re: Building my own PC
 
Whats registered memory? :dunce:

Richard M 22-03-2005 20:03
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ramrod
Whats registered memory? :dunce:
Just a quick Google:
http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/40684/

Ramrod 22-03-2005 20:31
Re: Building my own PC
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Richard M
Okeydokey........tnx m8 :)

Ramrod 23-03-2005 00:04
Re: Building my own PC
 
How's this for the PSU?
Enermax Noisetaker 600W EG701AX-VE(W) SFMA ATX2.0 SLI Compliant PSU (CA-021-EN) --The first one on the page...............


.............or does anyone have any other suggestions...........is 600W overkill? :)



Now, lets talk HDD's...........how about a couple of these in RAID 1? ('course I don't yet know how to put together a RAID 1 setup) :dunce: :disturbd:


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