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allieyoung666 19-03-2005 19:32

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This country is getting to be a bloody joke now, what on earth are they going to ban next??? If the kid want to wear brades let her, she is not hurting anyone andif she wants to be indvidual let her, its not as if her hair is that bloody radicial,says the person who got sent home from work because she died her hair violet and green!!!

Damien 19-03-2005 20:12

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This is the act of one school. It is not a national event.

Stop trying to make this a bigger issue than it is

Russ 19-03-2005 21:18

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Play nice now people...

paulyoung666 19-03-2005 23:17

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Originally Posted by Damien
This is the act of one school. It is not a national event.

Stop trying to make this a bigger issue than it is



but .......... , once it starts then who knows where it will stop , why should the coloured person have their hair in a certain style , yet the uncoloured person be stopped from doing it ???? , dont make any sense to me i am afraid :confused:

Electrolyte01 19-03-2005 23:38

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And I thought my head teacher was weird? This just takes the biscuit :erm:

Macca371 19-03-2005 23:39

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Political correctness now means that many people daren't apply restrictions or even challenge a person of a different culture or religion or whatever (even if you are challenging them about something which is irrelevant to their differences) for fear of being branded a racist or sent to court or whatever, which to me is extremely sad. Therefore it seems that a lot of these people are invincible and can get away with a lot of things (before I get attacked, I'm not saying all of the people do this)because when challenged they can always play the racist/discrimination card which gives them incredible powers in this messed up society :rolleyes:

Political correctness = Positive Discrimination

And as far as I'm concerned this is just as bad because if you want to get rid of discrimination you need to get rid of the differences. Two wrongs don't make a right. You need to make people equal and not try to 'balance it out' as such with positive discrimination. Same rules for everyone. If not, you are imposing multiple standards which only highlights the differences and makes the problems worse. Equality is the way :tu:

goblin 19-03-2005 23:59

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Diamond
Political correctness now means that many people daren't apply restrictions or even challenge a person of a different culture or religion or whatever (even if you are challenging them about something which is irrelevant to their differences) for fear of being branded a racist or sent to court or whatever, which to me is extremely sad. Therefore it seems that a lot of these people are invincible and can get away with a lot of things (before I get attacked, I'm not saying all of the people do this)because when challenged they can always play the racist/discrimination card which gives them incredible powers in this messed up society :rolleyes:

Political correctness = Positive Discrimination

And as far as I'm concerned this is just as bad because if you want to get rid of discrimination you need to get rid of the differences. Two wrongs don't make a right. You need to make people equal and not try to 'balance it out' as such with positive discrimination. Same rules for everyone. If not, you are imposing multiple standards which only highlights the differences and makes the problems worse. Equality is the way :tu:

I just wanted to say, I fully agree and an excellent post. :tu:

punky 20-03-2005 11:18

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I have just seen an advert for this home braiding kit. All the girls featured were white (presumably enough black girls already do it, so they are trying to encourage white girls to get it).

If white girls are "not allowed" to have braided hair :rolleyes:, isn't this sending about a bad message? ;)

And what are tight braids, which black people normally have, really that much different from the slightly looser braids, that typically young white girls used to have?

allieyoung666 20-03-2005 12:40

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You should be allowed to do what you want, you only live once!!!!

Stuart 20-03-2005 16:38

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I find it amazing that the school would discriminate in this way. When I went to school, the rules applied equally to all colours, and basically, in terms of hair, the school was happy if we didn't have skinheads, mohicans or any dangerous chemicals in our hair.

The need for that last rule was underlined when one pupil, who had some sort of Hair Gel in his hair stood too near to a lighted bunsen burner and his hair burst into flames.

ScaredWebWarrior 20-03-2005 22:55

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Originally Posted by Flubflow
She is white. Apparently, the school's black pupils can wear braids.

If this is true, then it's racism.

Now I'm waiting for the CRE to wade in to defend the girl...

Pierre 21-03-2005 10:09

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Originally Posted by Flubflow
She is white. Apparently, the school's black pupils can wear braids.
If she being told she cannot wear her hair that way because she is white then it is a race issue.

I wasn't aware that braids were a "blacks only" style.

Some of the people posting on here saying "don't blow it up out of proportion" etc. Are the very ones who would immediately be condemming it if was the other way around.

I laugh when I see/read such hypocrisy.

andyl 21-03-2005 11:08

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A stupid decision by one headteacher.

EDIT: And hey, some sensible quotes from politicians!!

"Rochdale MP Jim Dobbin is now trying to negotiate a compromise, but he admits he doesn't believe the school has reasonable grounds to keep Olivia away.

He said: "The family visited my surgery recently and I have asked the LEA to mediate with the school. I personally do not consider the hairstyle in any way outrageous and I hope Olivia can return to full time education immediately. I do not consider this to be a reasonable exclusion."

Coun Colin Lambert, Rochdale Council's spokesman for education, said: "The school should concentrate on what goes into the students' heads and not what is on their heads."

Jon M 21-03-2005 11:49

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Originally Posted by aliferste
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lew
I wonder if this school would also suspend a black pupil who had their hair straightenedâââ€à …¡Ã‚¬Ã‚¦

It is not that simple!

:erm: I could have sworn the thread title read something along the lines of.. "School bans pupil for hairstyle".
Maybe my eye-sight isn't what it used to be?

Lew's point is a good one, a black girl (generalising here) would usually have to work pretty hard to achieve straight hair as it's not particularly easy to do with the typically tight curly hair common within the black population.
Straight hair naturally has been the domain of other ethnic groups, yet with the invention and innovation of products over the last century or so, these other looks have become possible.

I think the comparison is legitimate, the girl in question is perfectly within her rights to use that hairstyle.

beardsley 21-03-2005 11:54

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Originally Posted by Scarlett
Personally, I think that all school govenors are little hitlers when it comes to deciding uniform policy. When I was in sixth form, the govenors decided that they wanted to change the dress code because they said that they had had reports that sixthformers we looking scruffy and letting the image of the school down (although no examples of when / where were ever provided).

They arrange a meeting with the sixth form council to discuss it and then didin't turn up! 2 days later they issuesd a new dress code which stoped the boys from wearing shorts (we'd only been allowed tailor'd shorts in any case) and a number of other restrictions...

When the complaints were made they just refused to listen to any argument...

The problem here is that the rule they've made is vauge at best so the Head is trying to interprit this as best as possible (not very well in fact) its now got to the point that ego's are on the line.

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Originally Posted by Flubflow
Personally I think all governers and heads are perverts. They just have a school uniform fetish.

As I governor of an infant school, I feel that I have to take exception to these comments. Do not tar us all with the same brush for the (apparently) stupid acts of a few.

Without hearing both sides of the story, it is impossible to come to a balanced conclusion, but it would seem that the leadership of this particular school needs to get a life. I can see that there might be circumstances where they may feel that braids were not apropriate, but if so then it should be the same rules for everyone. The only exceptions being for valid medical of religious reasons - not race.


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