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Mauldor 17-02-2005 23:45
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Interesting this (sorry if posted already )

http://www.plus.net/support/faq/broa...e_faq.shtml#17

ian@huth 18-02-2005 00:34
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mauldor
Interesting this (sorry if posted already )

http://www.plus.net/support/faq/broa...e_faq.shtml#17
Yes, very interesting. Ignition posted the link earlier. Also worth a read is http://usertools.plus.net/status/archive/1101830040.htm

One thing to note is that Plusnet and other ISPs are identifying customers with a very high usage pattern and taking steps to reduce their impact on their services. As ISPs introduce higher speeds these very high usage customers will have more of an impact on services and will be dealt with one way or another. Even the ISPs with unlimited packages will take action to restrict the very high usage of some of their customers. There are various ways of doing this within their existing T&Cs.

Mauldor 18-02-2005 01:27
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Well I gotta say - I used to be Firmly on the "caps are very bad and need to be killed on sight" but my Useage pattern has changed drasticly over the years. Now to be totally honest I have no idea how much I Down/Up a month, aa day or whatever but I suspect to be honest I fit in the cat of a "normal" user (compared to say a Lite User). I have never ever ever Liked and never will P2P apps, I do use the newsgroups + Newsbin but thats only the odd day a week if that now.

Now if they left it as a soft cap or a cap but same as plusnet there, through the night not counted sort of thing then I have no problem tbh to stay with NTL. The softcap I "think" works cos if a Person uses it like 1:1 24/7 etc then yes they shoudl be kicked or speed restricted..

By the way, noone sort of answered my question onthe other thread, I was aksing for a mate who lives in Ireland if they also getting upgrades. He did say they were getting sold off or something (NTL)over there so I have no idea..

dragon 18-02-2005 06:23
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with the caps coming with the new speeds is it gonna be measuresd on upload + download or are they going to be just measuing how much you use on the downstream only...

also good to hear the upstrem speeds are going up

Mog 18-02-2005 07:43
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Is there any software available that can tell you the speed of your connection...!

Other than the ( hopefully ) improved download rate, it would be nice to have something to confirm, yes your line is now 2MB !!

-Mog

Smack 18-02-2005 08:50
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I decided to leave Eclipse in November after hearing about the proposed 3mb connection offered by NTL. Dont think there was any mention of the speed caps at that time. However as they are going to be enforced and that other ADSL providers are increasing the speed, and in some cases unlimited downloads, beyond what NTL are offering it now seems to me that what I regarded as a innovative move bt NTL now seems to be more like a catch-me-up. They reallu have taken too long to do this and in my opinion have missed the ball with this .
What I want to know is if I can cancel my 12 month contract ( :redcard: ) due to the T&C being changed (If they have as I perceive) ?
Many thanks

orangebird 18-02-2005 08:55
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Smack
I decided to leave Eclipse in November after hearing about the proposed 3mb connection offered by NTL. Dont think there was any mention of the speed caps at that time. However as they are going to be enforced and that other ADSL providers are increasing the speed, and in some cases unlimited downloads, beyond what NTL are offering it now seems to me that what I regarded as a innovative move bt NTL now seems to be more like a catch-me-up. They reallu have taken too long to do this and in my opinion have missed the ball with this .
What I want to know is if I can cancel my 12 month contract ( :redcard: ) due to the T&C being changed (If they have as I perceive) ?
Many thanks
No, the T&Cs haven't changed, the AUP has. As part of the T&Cs though, it's up to you to check the AUP regularly....

Hans Gruber 18-02-2005 09:21
Re: *ALL* Speed Upgrade Discussion In Here Please (Part 2)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Smack
I decided to leave Eclipse in November after hearing about the proposed 3mb connection offered by NTL. Dont think there was any mention of the speed caps at that time. However as they are going to be enforced and that other ADSL providers are increasing the speed, and in some cases unlimited downloads, beyond what NTL are offering it now seems to me that what I regarded as a innovative move bt NTL now seems to be more like a catch-me-up. They reallu have taken too long to do this and in my opinion have missed the ball with this .
What I want to know is if I can cancel my 12 month contract ( :redcard: ) due to the T&C being changed (If they have as I perceive) ?
Many thanks
The caps and speed increases were both revealed in the same presentation.

paulyoung666 18-02-2005 09:37
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dragon
with the caps coming with the new speeds is it gonna be measuresd on upload + download or are they going to be just measuing how much you use on the downstream only...

also good to hear the upstrem speeds are going up

try this for a speed test :)

Mog 18-02-2005 10:10
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Quote:
Originally Posted by paulyoung666
try this for a speed test :)
Nice link, thanks for that......

jtwn 18-02-2005 10:13
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Earwig
Why does everyone go on about BT??

Everyone knows they are a rip off and there are plenty of providers out there that will give you 2MB uncapped for far less. Instead of comparing NTL to BT compare to these I.S.P's and see how poor the deal sounds then.

The speeds sound good and the extra couple of K upload will be vaugly useful but if the hard cap comes then I will be off to an ADSL company.

I think UK online now do an Uncapped 2MB for 29.99....Sounds good to me ! !

The other thing that puzzles me is the drop on the top tier from 40GB to 30GB per month which is the same as the 2MB product. Now forgive me for sounding silly but the 2MB is cheaper right? So the only benefit of the 3MB is the ability to hit the (same) cap quicker and pay Extra for it?? Sounds not to good to me. I think I would rather pay over £10 LESS every month and know at least I will not hit my cap quite so quickly. To be fair you can only load a web page so fast before the speed increase becomes un-noticeable right? Hehehe

However to be honest I doubt the hard cap will come. I think just like the Admin fee it will be dropped. While there are many other companies out there offering an uncapped service for less money people will go (if they have the need). I know I would certainly a slower speed but know that I could use it whenever I like and for whatever I like.
Yes but ntl aren't a niche isp, targeting the users who may require ex amount of bandwidth. Correct me if i'm wrong, but from a business point of view, their target to beat is the mainstream isps, who get all the press, like BT, Wannado and AOL.

And tbh, they are offering a much more competitive product then them. But i am still against hard capping ;)

Web-Junkie 18-02-2005 11:02
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.....and BT have a 15GB/month cap for their mid-range products (dropping to 150kbps if you exceed it) and an option to BUY additional Gigs at £1.95 if you exeed 15GB :O

They also include UPSTREAM data in your usage, so they are penalising you for requesting web pages now.

http://www.btyahoo.com/broadbandusage_holding

seaneeboy 18-02-2005 11:28
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Eeewww - BT Yahoo is such a confusing system - far too many caveats for a entry-level package :(

Ricky G 18-02-2005 11:55
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Sorry to be a pain if this has already been posted.

I'm a STB user who used to be on the 512k which got raised to 600K and I believe at the moment I am now on 750K. If this makes me eligable for the new upgrade to 2mb and eligable for the new set top box will NTL contact me to inform me of this or will I have to ring and pester them?

orangebird 18-02-2005 11:57
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ricky G
Sorry to be a pain if this has already been posted.

I'm a STB user who used to be on the 512k which got raised to 600K and I believe at the moment I am now on 750K. If this makes me eligable for the new upgrade to 2mb and eligable for the new set top box will NTL contact me to inform me of this or will I have to ring and pester them?
Ring and pester :)


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