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Electrolyte01 16-02-2005 16:31
Re: Cable ISPs?
 
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Originally Posted by SMHarman
Dont think you need the AOL software, think the CM is the same one you have.
If it's the same as the NTL one then that's no problem :)

jtwn 16-02-2005 16:33
Re: Cable ISPs?
 
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Originally Posted by Scott
Does any one know if AOL's models have ethernet ports? If they just have USB then I can't use it since I have a router connected to 2 PC's (and my PC is on the other side of the room).

And also, doesn't any one know if the software is required?
The installation is carried out by ntl, so unless they carry a modem especially for aol then guesses is that it would just be another ambit.

Electrolyte01 16-02-2005 16:57
Re: Cable ISPs?
 
Asked my parents to switch, they said "we'll see". Just have to wait now and see what happens :erm:
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My mates say AOL's cable I have to keep dialing up? Isn't that just for the ADSL version though? :erm:

And they also say I have to install there software to register the modem. Is this also true?

Mr_love_monkey 16-02-2005 17:27
Re: Cable ISPs?
 
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Originally Posted by Scott
And they also say I have to install there software to register the modem. Is this also true?
Probably yeah, AOL never used to let you use the internet without their bloatware, and I doubt that would have changed now - it's one of their selling points 'apparently' - they wouldn't really be able to say how safe it is to use the internet with them if people could bypass their system and just browse - though that said, there was never anything to stop you connecting with their software and then just minimising the software and using the browser as usual - it's what I used to do when AOL dial up was the only unlimited use dial up that I could use on an NTL line

ian@huth 16-02-2005 17:30
Re: Cable ISPs?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Scott
Asked my parents to switch, they said "we'll see". Just have to wait now and see what happens :erm:
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My mates say AOL's cable I have to keep dialing up? Isn't that just for the ADSL version though? :erm:

And they also say I have to install there software to register the modem. Is this also true?
No cable broadband involves dialling up, it's just there, always on.

I have read reports of people installing AOL on NTL cable without the CD but can't verify there reliability. I would think that you could do or at worst remove all traces of the software after registering.

Sky insist on a phoneline for you to take advantage of the interactive discount which enables free installation. They do not always check that it is connected though. They do insist on a phoneline and do check regularly if you are getting a mirror subscription for a second digibox. Possibly to stop you slipping a cable through to next door and selling the neighbours half price Sky. :D Sky have never stipulated that I should have a BT line or queried who I got my telephone service from on any installation I have ever had and it's been a few.

Electrolyte01 16-02-2005 17:39
Re: Cable ISPs?
 
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Originally Posted by ianathuth
I would think that you could do or at worst remove all traces of the software after registering.
As long as I can remove it after I have registered the modem that's no problem for me :)

Mr_love_monkey 16-02-2005 17:43
Re: Cable ISPs?
 
I found this on a site - it's about the US, but it might still apply
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Here's the problem in a nutshell: the thing you need to understand is that AOLââ‚Âà ‚¬ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¾Ã‚¢s High-Speed Cable Modem service functions quite differently than the cable modem service provided by other ISPs like Time Warnerââ‚Ã⠀šÃ‚¬ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¾Ã‚¢s Road Runner.

For example, one of the most attractive features of a typical broadband connection is that it is always on. This always-on status is what allows you to get real-time stock and weather updates, check for phone numbers, or get directions instantly. Not to mention that with an always-on connection you can set up your own web site, remotely access your PC while traveling, or participate in a video conference.

This connection is also unfiltered, allowing you to visit virtually any place on the web youââ‚Âà ‚¬ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¾Ã‚¢d like without restrictions. The downside to this convenience is that the connection is also wide open to the rest of the world. So if you want to keep your PC and data protected, youââ‚Âà ‚¬ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¾Ã‚¢ll need to invest in a good firewall. Content filtering will cost you extra.

AOL, however, is not your typical broadband service. Their connection is only active when you sign into the AOL service. The benefit of this technique is that because your PC isnââ‚Âà ‚¬ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¾Ã‚¢t always online, it is less vulnerable to attack for the outside world. To further protect you, AOL also maintains the firewall and even provides a variety of content filtering tools so you can customize what your family can and cannot do on the web. Considering that many AOL users arenââ‚ ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢t very Internet savvy or lack a really good understanding of the potential dangers out on the net, this isnââ‚Âà ‚¬ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¾Ã‚¢t necessarily a bad thing.

However, as with any type of security implementation, AOLââ‚Âà ‚¬ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¾Ã‚¢s isnââ‚Âà ‚¬ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¾Ã‚¢t without its sacrifices. The biggest has to be the inability to share this connection among multiple users. The reason for this is that AOL doesn't use a standard connection method like PPPoE to authenticate users. This creates an incompatibility with your typical broadband router because the router doesnââ‚ƚ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢t know how to communicate with the AOL service. This all but limits the service to a single PC. The modem can be physically connected to multiple PCs, but to only one at a time.
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However this sounds a little bit more promising

Electrolyte01 16-02-2005 17:46
Re: Cable ISPs?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr_love_monkey
I found this on a site - it's about the US, but it might still apply

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However this sounds a little bit more promising
Thanks for that, I've sent them an email asking if my router will be compatible (since I have 2 PC's) and if I need there software installed or not.

Electrolyte01 17-02-2005 10:27
Re: Cable ISPs?
 
Bah, I have to use there stupid dialer according to there email, and being able to use a network is only available in the gold package. Having AOL on an NTL line is ALSO only available in the gold and above packages :mad:

*Sighs*

Looks like I'll have to stick with NTL's 300K :(


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