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mrmassive 06-07-2004 22:11

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no problem gaz will do on next post

mrmassive 06-07-2004 22:13

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Originally Posted by orangebird
Jesus, Mary and Joseph... Any excuse to call us caucasian Brits racist....

I don't mean to sound like a complete nationalist here, but if the Islamic Human Rights people don't like it, why don't they just sod off back to their Islamic country of origin

answer Maybe they can't go back due to the fact if they went back on a plane it might be shot out of the sky before it lands

homealone 06-07-2004 22:58

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Originally Posted by mrmassive
no problem gaz will do on next post

thanks

- I actually meant use the 'quote' button, rather than the 'reply' one, for replying to a 'whole' message.

or using the 'tags' available, for replying to segments of a post


'tags' are always enclosed in square brackets, they control the way the text in your posts is displayed.

for example a (b)text(/b) would display text in bold (round brackets used for illustration) Bold

- note the (/b) at the end to turn bold off.

the (quote) paste here (/quote) tag, allowsyou to delineate exactly which part of a post you are replying to, especially when =nameofposter is added to the first tag (quote=nameofposter)
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Originally Posted by nameofposter
like this

- copy the part of the post you want to reply to, paste it in the reply form, edit the (quote) tags into the form around the posted segment ('paste here' above - remember you should be using square brackets), then edit in your reply - preview if you want - and post

if you hit the 'quote' button for this post, you will see the tags, rather than their effects :)

<edit> apart from the
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Originally Posted by nameofposter
like this

bit, which is screened out by the forum software ;)

mrmassive 06-07-2004 23:07

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just drank a bottle of metaxa 7 star brandy thought i waz doing well .AHH that's life for you

mrmassive 06-07-2004 23:09

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just starting on 20yrs old glenfarclas nice scotch gaz u wanna try some . Cheers mucker

Graham 07-07-2004 12:41

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Edit: I note that others have already addressed the quoting problem, so I've cut that part out.

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But seriously "most of them are here illegally"? Really? Can you provide cites to back this up
rare plants and endangered wildlife about 2500 animals and 25000 plants.No way am I list that lot cos by the time i finished writeing the list they'll be extinct.

Excuse me? What on earth does this have to do with the price of fish?

We're talking about your comment "Thats labour for you dont forget most of them are here illegally. Its mainly the asians that get there relatives ect from india over here", not rare plants and endangered wildlife!!

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So how do we fix that? Do we turn around and say "right, now you live in our country, you're going to have to throw away your traditions and do it *our* way
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Maybe a little bit of give and take would'nt go a miss

I don't disagree, but what you seem to suggest is that anything that conflicts with "our" way should automatically be discarded.

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(Why does this remind me of Norman Tebbit saying that immigrants should support the *England* team at sporting events...?!)Oh, but it's *your* country, isn't it? Well actually for many of them it's now *their* country too!.
If you live in it why not support it.
Tell you what, why not tell a Liverpool supporter who has moved to Manchester that he's got to support Man Utd now...! :rofl:

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Well actually the answer is *yes*. We've been doing it since the days of Empire! Except these days we don't use troops, we just use financial muscle.
WEll to that one i origionally said no you stated we dont send in troops and only use financial muscle so don't twist that one
We were talking about "telling people how to run their country", but I don't think Iraq counts in quite the same way which is why I didn't include it in my original comment, however I apologise if that was imprecise.

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Would you care to explain this comment???
as for that one what i origionally said will have to do
That's your right, but I don't like the implications of the original comment.

timewarrior2001 10-07-2004 11:57

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I have said this before and will say it again, if they dont like our laws they can **** off to a country that suits them.

Also staticstically in America there are more black youths in prison than college. Well if said black youths did something constructive with their lives they probably wouldnt be in prison would they?

If the Asians of the UK are not prepared to be stopped and searched given the current climate and possibility of terrorist attack then they should be imprissoned like foreign nationals were in 1939-1945.

Priority number one, If its law and you wont obey or comply you are imprissoned. It counts for everyone no matter what colour, religion, gender sexual persuasion. The only exemption appears to be age. Its not harrassment its not prejudice its common sense.

th'engineer 10-07-2004 15:17

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I have said this before and will say it again, if they dont like our laws they can **** off to a country that suits them.


Priority number one, If its law and you wont obey or comply you are imprissoned. It counts for everyone no matter what colour, religion, gender sexual persuasion. The only exemption appears to be age. Its not harrassment its not prejudice its common sense.

Quite agree and well put

dr wadd 10-07-2004 15:32

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I have said this before and will say it again, if they dont like our laws they can **** off to a country that suits them.

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/sh...7&postcount=93

Obviously you don`t think that it is important to obey a law prevents you assaulting someone. Can you let us know when you'll be going to a country that suits you?

th'engineer 10-07-2004 16:18

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http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/sh...7&postcount=93

Obviously you don`t think that it is important to obey a law prevents you assaulting someone. Can you let us know when you'll be going to a country that suits you?

No need for that he is right if the people that go to a country do not like the laws they can always leave

dr wadd 10-07-2004 18:00

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No need for that he is right if the people that go to a country do not like the laws they can always leave

And as I`ve asked countless times before, what about the Muslims that were born in this country. All of this rhetoric seems like a thinly veiled argument to kick all non-whites out of this country.

Escapee 10-07-2004 18:21

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And as I`ve asked countless times before, what about the Muslims that were born in this country. All of this rhetoric seems like a thinly veiled argument to kick all non-whites out of this country.

Does it really matter if someone is born here or comes from another country, laws must not be broken.

When in Rome do as the romans do!

If the police were given a description of a white mugger they would be wasting their time stopping black or asian people, so the same thing goes when they have the description of an asian looking mugger.

The police can only stop people who fit the description, it will be a sad day when police are only allowed to stop white people for crimes and let blacks or asians get away with it.

Is that what some people want?

dr wadd 10-07-2004 18:36

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Is that what some people want?

What I want is for the authorities to stop assuming that every Muslim is a potential threat. In the last year the number of stop-and-searches on Muslims went up by something like 300% while the number of arrests for terrorism as a result went down.

Simply walking down the street is not breaking any laws, and I don`t see why Muslims should be treated a potential criminals just because of their religion.

I`m white, born in this country, and if the police attempted a stop-and-search on me without any just cause you can bet that I would use every right that I have to demand information on why the search was conducted, and exercise my right to have it demonstrably proven that it was justified. Do you believe that all whites who can trace their family lineage back n generations within this country agree with these policies? You can`t "do as the Romans do" if there are "Romans" who don`t agree with the policy.

Stopping people who fit a description is one thing, but when that description is as broad as simply being a Muslim then any decent person is forced to ask questions.

Ramrod 10-07-2004 18:54

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I wonder how much the Muslim community is doing to help the police in tracking radical, undesirable Muslims. Perhaps not enough, if the police feel they have to thrash around blindly stopping any Muslim......

Escapee 10-07-2004 18:56

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What I want is for the authorities to stop assuming that every Muslim is a potential threat. In the last year the number of stop-and-searches on Muslims went up by something like 300% while the number of arrests for terrorism as a result went down.

Simply walking down the street is not breaking any laws, and I don`t see why Muslims should be treated a potential criminals just because of their religion.

I`m white, born in this country, and if the police attempted a stop-and-search on me without any just cause you can bet that I would use every right that I have to demand information on why the search was conducted, and exercise my right to have it demonstrably proven that it was justified. Do you believe that all whites who can trace their family lineage back n generations within this country agree with these policies? You can`t "do as the Romans do" if there are "Romans" who don`t agree with the policy.

Stopping people who fit a description is one thing, but when that description is as broad as simply being a Muslim then any decent person is forced to ask questions.


Well you only have to go back to the 70's when anyone with an Irish accent was questioned and treated with suspicion during the hight of the IRA bombing campaign. I know that was wrong but today I wonder how many Irish are questioned because of their accents, the IRA threat has gone away so there is no longer any need to question them.

If there was a policy in England to stop, search and question all Welsh people I would simply stay in wales if I didn't like it. I think you will find that most Romans do agree with the policy, none of us see the need to harrass innocent people wherever they come from or what they look like.

Its a sign of the times, but I think we are sometimes dealing with the enemy within. A small number of Muslims (notice I said small) living in this country were rejoicing after sept 11th. Some potential terrorists are actually moving among us on a daily basis, I am not trying to over dramatise the situation but what were those guys from this country who ended up in Guantanamo bay doing.

They were not there on a package tour!

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Originally Posted by Ramrod
I wonder how much the Muslim community is doing to help the police in tracking radical, undesirable Muslims. Perhaps not enough, if the police feel they have to thrash around blindly stopping any Muslim......


I think you have a valid point, the very fact that many muslims live in communities and are not scattered makes for a stronger bond amongst themselves, I suppose in certain circumstances they could inconcievably harbour their own criminals because of this closed community.

I have never understood why some foreign people in this country, (not just choosing the asian community) do not like the British traditional way of life.
It does make you wonder why they live here if they dont like it.


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