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yes but the individual should know when they are ready, if you are in a relationship you have to make sure that both sides are willing to engage in sexual contact.

that is your experiance, in everyone there is an emotional one aswell as a psychological diffarence, it can cause the relationship to strengthen or weaken, but sex is just part of the relationship....

from what i have seen the reason people break up is because of relationships not working out, you have the physical attraction and then you have to seriously think about the relationship in the respect that both of you should have something in common.......im not going in to it too deep but i hope you understand.....

yes there are some people are just looking to 'get laid' regularly'

this is exactly what i am trying to say, if an education network needs to be established we need to make sure pupils get the full facts, not whatever ones ideology tells them.

yes you have the right idea, sex education is tame in this country those education establishments that choose to tackle the issue do not go far enough in teaching youngsters on what to do and what NOT to do.

parents are often concerned about what there child is being taught in school, this raises other issues aswell.

exactly, its just creating a dictatorship, you cannot simply ignore the issue, no amount of education is going to stop people from having unprotected sex, its everyone's right (within the legal limit) to have sex should they want to, for recreational purposes aslong as precautions are taken.

no telling them to abstain as the report highlights is NOT education selling overtly expensive rings as well does not count as education

:dozey:

from intercourse when the couple is married and has kids.......

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I think it is dam well-known about the dangers of unprotected sex and some people chose not to believe it or not to care. AIDS and such are spectrally well-advertised. TV programs are always showing dangers and using protection is common place.

Shouting EDUCATION everytime is not effective. People do know the dangers and if they refuse to notice they will get punished,

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OK maybe I've just missed the punchline but how does that have anything to do with it?? :confused:

An STD is a SEXUALLY transmitted disease. As in being 'transmitted' through 'sex'.

Abstaining means 'not having sex'.

So how would you pass it on? Harsh language? Judo?

Soory, didn't mean to souns sarcastic but I just don't get it.

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to clear it up for you the whole debate is about abstaining until marriage, my point was there is still a chance of getting an STD when the couple have sex after marriage.

cleared that up for you ?

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Was that pun intended? :erm: :angel: :D

Celibacy until marriage just doesn't work though does it, for several reason, depending on who you are. Education has to be the key and if people sill decide to ignore it (as many do) then there is no help for them. Just telling people not to do it just won't work, they will just carry on regardless. Sex is perfectly safe if you just take a few precautions.

As for STD/I's being passed on without sex, crabs can be passed on by sleeping in the same bed as someone who has them. :dozey:

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no it was not, although you mentioning it made it that way :pp

i cant rep you, it says i need to spread it a bit :erm: :D

correct, many people will simply ignore the advice..........

:disturbd:

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this whole abstinence thing is a load of moralistic crap.

If the people in charge think for one moment it is going to make the slightest bit of difference when kids know by having a good shag, getting pregnant = free money and house. Nothing will change.

Abstinence is not the key, education may well be but abstinence will not be noted by any of them, why would they chose to go without sex AND have to fork out for a silver ring that means pretty much FA.
Any kids with such a ring will be taunted with calls of virgin etc.

Permanent irreversible sterilisation of the charvers, scrotes, ****, slags, whores and whatevfer else you chose to call them may help though.

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Cant thrush be caught by both parties through having sex even if niether party had it before starting??

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I agree with the comments made about the importance of education in helping teens come to terms with their emerging sexuality.

However, the same could be said about smoking, there is plenty of information available on why one shouldn't start, but people still do.

One reason for this, I believe is peer pressure and I think it also applies to sexual relations - the 'everyone else does it, why don't you? - try it, it's cool', situation.

The way I see it this scheme is an attempt to enable young people, who may be unsure, to peer with other like minded contemporaries & help them deal with relationships at a speed they feel comfortable with. It's as much a right to abstain as it is to indulge - & this could help them to make a more informed decision?

Having said that I don't think the symbolism of the ring will do any more than potentially expose them to ridicule?

<edit> I see TM2001 has already made that last point :)

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seen as we are on the subject of sex here is an interesting article:

a course designed by exeter university highlighting oral sex instead of intercourse has shown to actually reduce the amount of people engaging in actual sex, the course teaches pupils that intimacy and controlling 'urges' can be achieved through oral sex, it was noted there was a 20% reduction in pupils who would normally have had sex.

source: guardian.co.uk

http://politics.guardian.co.uk/publi...212839,00.html

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My mate caught crabs from a dodgy bed :)

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The ring thing is stupid its a symbol thats it.

But the peer pressure and the general attuide put forward by tv is the main cause of it

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good point, tv is also a medium which 'flaunts' sex and flirtatious behavior.

peer pressure is of course dependant on how the individual will handle the situation, i have learned not to be pressured in to anything and make a decision for myself and myself only, but others 'go along with it' :shrug:

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How do you think they start in the first place? its not just passed on down generations

HIV - Dirty needles, blood transfusions
crabs - beds

also some of the rest can be contracted if you are very unhygienic although i am not sure what can be contracted i think its HPV and something else

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Yep, it depends how you deal with it. I have never given in but as a result found school hard. Now its not a problem (it also depends on who your mates are). Some people do go along as there have a need to be populer (which isnt a bad thing) some people however manage to do both when it suits them which is the best option

Also I dont understand your TV comment. its the same as mine? or where you agreeing with me?