Re: What's next, cattleprods?
 

so anti-social behaviour is dignified with the term 'special needs' ?

no wonder it's on the increase.

Re: What's next, cattleprods?
 

it depends on what you class as anti social in retrospect towards either being disruptive for the sake of being disruptive or having an actual 'problem'

Re: What's next, cattleprods?
 

i guess anti-social behaviour could be classified by intent to cause distraction, not by the act itself as some children who do have mental problems won't be able to understand what behaviour is acceptable and what isn't.

But if the child is being disruptive the disrupter should be removed from the environment regardless of intent. Intent is incredibly hard to ascertain, so the school probably shouldn't even try considering how resource intensive it would be.

I think that when anti-social behaviour no longer causes disgust it will simply be used to get attention, screwing the whole classroom in the process. Kids love attention you know, they'll do anything they can get away with to get it.

Re: What's next, cattleprods?
 

As a parent I have no qualms about anyone smacking my child at school IF they misbehave.I'm not a parent who wanted to do away with physical punishment in the first place.

I do understand your concerns though Russ BUT I 'd like to point out that in some circumstances you might like a teacher to touch your child,such as if she is hurt,frightened or in danger of being hurt or damaged.At one point teachers were recommended not to step in during fights and not to restrain the combatants because it might be miscontrued as abuse.I'm not even allowed to physically prevent a child from leaving a classroom EVEN though I'm legally responsible if that child leaves the school and has an accident.

Incog.

Re: What's next, cattleprods?
 

I'm sorry but many children with learning difficulties are finding themselves in 'normal' schooling because the government has deemed they should become fully intergrated with 'normal' educational establishments.Segregation is becoming a thing of the past with certain educational disadvantages.Now I can understand this when it comes to physical disabilty children but when Downs Syndrome children are placed in mainstream schools(and it's happened in my regular school)I think that it is a strain on a system already stretched beyond what is reasonable. :(

However to get back on topic,discipline has to be a matter arranged and agreed between parents and school.Mind the next time I want to keep a child for the 10 minutes allowed at the end of the school day and I'm told that "I've got to pick up my little brother/sister/cousin/whatever from school so I can't stay after school", I shall go demented.

Let the little sw*nes behave in that case then IF they want to leave on time.Better still let mum/dad/aunty pick up their own younger child from school instead of lumping it on to an older sibling. :mad:

Incog. :)

Re: What's next, cattleprods?
 

Can I just clear up my point.

I was saying that the Special needs students should only be treated differently depending on there situation and thats it! If this kid had a behaviour problem relating to a mental problem then fine but if hes got a problem with something small then magnifying the problem because he has special needs is stupid. The fact that the news item simply says special needs suggest that it wasn't a behavior problem otherwise they would have mentioned it. it just seems to be put in to make the act look worse sort of like playing the race card.

You cannot go round treating people differently to others because they have one thing, such as handwriting. Equal treatment applies both ways they should by all means have help with that problem but why treat them differently when it comes to punishment ? I had 'special needs' and there was nothing wrong with me expect I like really badly

Re: What's next, cattleprods?
 

I'd just like to say.....


If it had been my son, once he was not grounded for misbehaving at school, and once he had finnished all his homework. I'd then say to him

"and whats the moral of this story son?"

And if he can tell me, its a lesson learnt and the teacher has done a good job.

What I think the parent is so outraged at is the fact that without court she faces little chance of reaping any kind of financial benefit from the situation.


The bottom line, no one was hurt and the kid shouldnt have been talking and distracting others during a lesson.