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That Five Live thing doesn't happen for me :) ...just lucky i guess
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the box has crashed on me with 4010 tho. It was while going in to the diary.... I did do rather alot of things at once tho. One crash since upgrade. Fine ever since.
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Glad to see that the 'Guide' is up to its usual standards. I've got programme info for today, all channels from midnight onwards say 'programme information unavailable' :rolleyes: The box appears to be very unresponsive when in the guide too - its a 4001. Another interesting feature is that while in the guide, the 'mini tv' stays on the channel I'm watching until I scroll to 3am when it changes to the Front Row channel (and 107 comes up on the display) and you can't change the channel.
Now I've got programme information unavailable for today as well :confused: I've already rebooted the box half a dozen times today (that's more than I've had to do since it was installed 3 yrs ago!). The navigating takes a bit of getting used to (damned browse button :mad: ) as well. The colour scheme is OK too ($ky anyone?). I've rearranged some of the channels (do they stay in that order now, even if the box is rebooted?) but it's a bit of a tedious task. I'd prefer the channels to be in a sensible order/renumbered. |
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yeah if you are moving a music channel from 911 to say the region of 606, then you need to hit the button "1" about 70 times, it would be better if you could hit PAGE UP, while having that channel selected :D
btw yeah it is supposed to switch to front row, for anything after 3 A.M as that channel is the stream it gets its data on or something, i find it takes alot less time to get listings than previously, perhaps the thing with mini guide "press guide for further listings" is just a thing to encourage people to use the faster more improved guide. |
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Losing Sound CR3
Over the last few days, ever so often our cable TV is losing all sound, no matter how often we reset the box etc it doens't make a difference - switching to plain tv has working sound so it is just NTL - any ideas about this? We're in the Cambridge CB4 area.
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It's a 4001-3, HW Version 3A.
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No offence, but have you checked the mute isn't on, or that the volume isn't turned right down? |
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When I press Pge Up & Down & Blue - in the log I see various code like statements.
Would anyone know what the following stand for?? Reset EFC Module & TAS tuned timeout Thanks James |
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Yeah as proppin' said if your tv has more than one scart input change it around, aas my tv kept turnin itself off, and its not that old, and cost a fortune and i thought ."noooooooooooo" but then i changed the scart around and "voila -c'est bon!"
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i said somewhere on these forums, "is that why ntl: brought out the same remotes for both platforms" only i was told that each remote had different buttons,
http://members.boards.ie/celticfc/ntltestremote.jpg http://members.boards.ie/celticfc/neworiginalremote.jpg however whats the difference except that the langley one looks nicer :P |
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ah, i never thought there was a difference in the buttons, but someone said, the buttons should be the same, it would be easier for CS, they were tryin to confuse ....me thinks
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Are there any known issues with particular box versions? The only reason I ask is that when the code downloaded yesterday, the box seemed fine (speed wise) up until about 9pm last night when it virtually ground to a halt - 5-6 seconds to change up or down a channel which almost led to the box exiting the premises via the window! A reboot didn't cure the problem. This evening the box seems to be faster, but a few of the channels are way out of lip-sync (Sky One, UK Gold, CH4 to name a few) and rebooting doesn't cure the problem :confused: BTW my box is a 4001 HW Rev 3
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I don't quite understand what you mean by this. If you're asking if I have noticed any problems, the answer would be no, not really. The STB may have to be rebooted every few days or so because if freezes or fails to update the miniguide. But, as I said, nothing really wrong. James :) |
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The other thing to try is to tune your TV into the STB's RF feed and see if theres sound on that. I've heard of a box losing sound before on the scart outputs but the RF still being OK. Ultimately the box sounds like it needs replacing, but the RF feed give you mono sound back until it can be replaced. |
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When does COVENTRY get the CR3 upgrade.
Regards. |
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I had a 4010 box with the update but the box got replaced with a 4001 box the other day because of freezing issues with picture not related to the software upgrade. On the 4010 box interactive and help worked fine, now with the 4001 box when pressing help and interactive i get an M044 error :(
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LCR3 16:9/4:3 Bug on 4001NI box?
Ahoyhoy,
My STB is set to 16:9, and my TV (a Sony KV28-FD1) is set to smart (so, even 4:3 programs occupy the entire screen - I'd rather see that than black borders on the left & right of a 4:3 picture). The STB is a 4001NI, running LCR3 in Cambridge, and yesterday - for no particular reason - 4:3 programming started getting decoded by the box as a 4:3 image on a 16:9 output. So, anything in 4:3 (Sky News, for example), output a widescreen image but the 4:3 broadcast had large black borders. This occurred on every channel broadcasting in 4:3.. and because it was actually outputting a widescreen signal (and a widescreen format image) there wasn't any way of having the 4:3 part fill my TV screen. There were bugs with widescreen on pre-LCR3 software on my box, which Proppin' explained, and which are now fixed in LCR3. A workaround until LCR3 was to go to the AV settings menu and change the TV settings from 16:9 to 4:3, then back again. So, bearing this in mind I tried the same workaround to see if this resolved the issue described above. Happily it did... but based on this I suspect that there's a bug in there somewhere. It's bizarre that the bug is now related to 4:3 programming this time though! Is this something that others have seen? Or am I the first to come across this..? Any ideas, Proppin'? :) Cheers, Dean |
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IanGuy, I had the same prob, it turned out that the signal strength needed to up'd by and a eng'y. Call CS and book a visit.
But even tho mine is now fixed, still don't appear to have full red button use (only bbci), which I thought was be turned on with CR3. Can anyone advise as to when it will be turned on for the Colchester area. |
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does proppin' or anybody know, if it is, ntl:'s aim to get CR3 rolled out so they are able to provide ETV for wimbledon, and Euro2004, or have they no actual aim. P.S Wimbledon starts 21st June, it would be done by then anyway, surely
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Right last night, rebooted the box to see if any joy would come out of it and glad to say it did. Within 10 minutes of viewing an update had been downloaded and then i pressed confirm, the box rebooted and WAHEY! Help and interactive now work!
Today tho I have no listings on the mini guide, suppose alot of ppl get this tho. |
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Widescreen shows completely correctly (and for that I'm grateful!). 4:3 ends up sending a widescreen-format image that's got the 4:3 display in the image, but with black bars on the left and right being output as part of the image from the STB. You're right in that it looks like viewing a 4:3 image on my TV when my TV isn't in smart mode. If I select 4:3 mode on my TV when this problem occurs, I end up with an image that has an aspect ratio that's horizontally squished. Hope this is ok.. It's only happened once since the box was updated with LCR3 a few weeks ago.. but if it happens again I'll drop you a PM if you're interested? Or, if you'd rather I just post up here again just let me know.. Thanks! Dean |
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This may may be a stupid question but is it unheard of for an STB to repeatedly (ie over 4 days) fail to download an update and then (hopefully!) have it succeed, or does this mean a call to CS.
Basically the box (Pace 4010) will reboot and show messages TUNE and PAT for anything up to 3 hours before another reboot but with no change to CR3. |
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I'll let the box cool down and see what happens.
Thanks for the input; much appreciated by this Cardiff newbie. |
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It's a valid question. The problem has been that this thread was going to be co-ordinated via Neil with questions emailed to him, for us to respond to. That hasn't happened as no-one emailed Neil, instead everyone has posted here, and this is now a very long discussion with a lot of individual issues and observations mixed in with the valid questions and feedback. If someone wants to get a specific list of questions together for us to respond to, that would be very helpful! I'll make sure that I get responses posted on here for that. Otherwise, I will ask someone here to go through and see what questions they can pick out to respond to. Cheers Sam |
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All of 4 people mailed me (despite my reminders in this thread)
Sam-I did forward those 4 members queries to you. I put them all on an MS Word doc & emailed them to you) :confused: I can re-send if necessary. :) |
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Sorry, didn't realise you'd requested Neil to co-ordinate via email. I've PM'ed Neil with my feedback from my post of last week. HTH |
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Cheers Sam |
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Thanks again Proppin' :) |
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Would it be possibel for someone to explain the various bites of information that are accessed when "Page Up, Page Down, and Blue" are pressed??
Also, with reference to the Event Log, which is also accessible in this fashion: Would anyone be able to clarify what each of the terms mean. For example, TAS Tuned Timeout, Lost IB Lock (I undertsand that this corresponds to a change of channel), etc. I would appreciate this information, as I'm sure others will too - it would be more understandable with this knowledge. Thanks James :dunce: |
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Anyone know which area is next for CR3? Theres been speculation that Glasgow might be next, but I live in the area and haven't received any mailings yet. :(
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I think my box has updated ,but all im getting on the box display is PAT
Im in the Northampton area Thanks |
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Tried it ,still no luck ,what u think leave it off for a while
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You could try leaving it unplugged to cool down. Or a reboot whilst pressing the down arrow on the front of the box.
It sounds like the box is knacked tho. |
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PAT? never heard of that one, wouldnt it be freaky if you were called PAT?, and your box was tryin to communicate with ya..lol
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thanks, proppin' , Basically does that mean
"im knackerd, replace me" ? |
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Still no luck ,suppose ill leave it till morning then re check it ,if still no luck
ill give NTL ring ,Wish me luck Thanks again for your help |
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well , a new box can only be good right?, hopefully you get a Di4010, they seem to be quicker, (well the one i have after having about 10, 4001's), so your in luck!
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The PAT contains some info which the STB needs. In this case the box may well need replacing.
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Have tried leaving it for a while and now it works
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This evening my father was using the stb downstairs and whilst watching Paramount tried to change to BBC1.
The box showed 101 for BBC1 but the channel on-screen still stayed on Paramount. Channel up and down changed the channel on screen and number on the box. Went into the guide to try and change channel, the guide came up i could not click on anything. TV returned me to the channel but again I could not change the channel by entering a number. Turned the box on and off by the remote but no luck. Full reboot solved the problem. Has anyone else had this problem? Box is a pace 4010, my location is Northampton and yes i have LCR3 :) Also some quick questions Why does the mini-guide only display a few hours into the future? Why were the colour buttons removed when it came to accesing settings? i.e. Guide then colour button for settings. As it stands now getting into settings is 'over complicted' compared to what it was. Thanks to all p.s. can't wait to try an e-tv application on the new software. |
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I sucessfully recieved the new software this morning (after a reboot because my house-mates left the box on). All looks good so far. However, I cannot access interactive. Ok, so i havn't been able to since I had DTV installed a few weeks ago, but seeing as i knew we'd be getting an update today, i thought i'd wait to see if it sorted it. No such luck tho. I try to get to interactive, but get an M044 error. I have checked the Network status pages, and I have a network connection status of 5, but an STB IP address of 0.0.0.0 - which I know isn't right. Can someone get in touch with me to get this sorted please. Many Thanks Jon |
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How do Sky manage to do this and what is different to the way NTL do it. No idea on when or whether NTL may get a 7 day EPG. |
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I turned it off, left it for 20 minutes, switched it on, left it for 10 minutes and tried again. Exactly the same. No information available. I have the 4010 box. Jon Burton Earlier post: http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/sh...209#post192209 |
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Just got the letter and handbook this morning - any info on roll-out date for Renfrew/Glasgow?
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Ah yes, sorry, some more dates for you.
Glasgow and Teesside: downloads start from Tuesday 27th April. Warwick and Andover: downloads start from Wednesday 28th April. Hemel Hempstead: downloads start from Thursday 29th April. Cheers Sam |
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The new remotes also have a Settings button, so if you can get hold of one of these you can get to Settings in one click. |
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Do you want my box with the updated software, we could swap. :erm: Is there anyway to go back :confused: . Give me back the purple :shocked: . It worked fast and reliably, it skipped unsubscribed channels - I don't care I'm not subscribed to MUTV - and "did what it said on the tin". |
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I've got me booklet :D
Teesside next week! |
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So after the areas that Sam B kindly announced today, how many areas will be left??
Cheers, Browneggsandham :) |
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I've gone from having no problems in the last 3 yrs to an unacceptable service. I too want to go back to the old purple software - I couldn't give a toss about E-TV stuff anyway. :( |
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Following your plea as above, I can see that a couple of people have said they have pm'd Neil with specifics, but most haven't and without wading through all the pages of tis thread they probably don't know they should. Since not every ntl customer is a member of this site, it must surely mean that there are some underlying issues affecting a number of customers. Isn't it in ntl's interest to not only to analyse this thread, but also to delve a little deeper to establish, for instance, whether there is a specific stb model that is giving rise to the problems? Or are you able to get this from your CS systems? Is the stb model/version recorded automatically by CS? I don't recall ever being asked for that info by CS in the past - and in fact I wouldn't have known how to get the info without proppin's advice earlier in this thread. |
Old Langley bug revisited in LCR3
Sorry for putting this in a seperate thread but i woke up this morning, turn on the telly and saw in front of me a 4:3 picture in a 16:9 frame unsquezzed. (I hope that make sense)
Every channel which should be broadcasting 4:3 was broadcasting like this. All widescreen channels were correct. The only exception to this was Channel Five which was normal 4:3. Going into settings and putting the box into 4:3 normal then back to 16:9 cured it. Is this the return of the old widescreen issue that we had previously in new clothes? I'm Langley, Northampton and this box is a Pace 4001NC Anyone else have this problem? |
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Just got my book! Woohoo! (Glasgow G14 BTW)
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Yup.. I've reported the same thing (although I didn't know about the CH5 output being good).
My posting got shoved into the (too big) CR3 : Feedback thread, if you want to check it out and add to the discussion.. Glad it's not just me with this problem! :) Cheers, Dean |
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However what you're seeing on Sky One is, AFAIK, not an error with the STB but down to Sky deciding for whatever reason to continue to broadcast their ad-breaks in 4:3. Channel 5 often does this as well. You end up seeing a lot of ads as 4:3 letterbox because they are all recorded in 16:9 these days and many are not made available for broadcast in a 4:3 version. |
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My widescreen TV does not have auto aspect-ratio switching so if you're watching, say Jake 2.0 or 24 on Sky1 and the TV is set up for "Anamorphic" then you will see the correct aspect ratio, using the tv's full resolution, but when the adverts happen (irrespective of the ratio) what is broadcast is not "Anamorphic" Conversely, if you're watching a Grand-Prix (shot in 4:3) this is broadcast "Unanamorphically", but when the ads arrive, these are broadcast "Anamorphically". Thre is no doubt in my mind that this is not a bug but just the way that NTL get their feeds from the different channels. One day, everything, no matter what way they are shot, will be broadcast "Anamorphically" - Look at Scuzz for an example of this. |
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My question was more directed towards people with specific questions that they would like answered. We won't have answers for all of them, but we are happy to respond where we can. The problem with threads like this is that there are quite a lot of individual issues that get answered a few posts later or are discussed in detail, so it is difficult to go through this thread and pull out the unanswered queries. Cheers Sam |
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Thanks, Sam - I knew you'd be taking care of us!
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Got my booklet today (Renfrew PA4 XXX). Cant wait - looks good! :)
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if you think those look good, check out the screenshots
http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/screen.p...ry=1&type=lcr3 |
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got my book as well, so Glasgow is getting it next week!?
looks good, but I am a bit pesamistic, a lot of people here say its not as good, I will make up my mind next month. ik |
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Hi all
got my info and booklet today Hemel Hempstead HP2. So hopefully next week I will have LCR3. Does anyone know what post code area and box types are being done first in Hemel Hempstead. Regards abun880007x |
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Does anyone know if CR3 fixes the left-shift-and-up-a-bit problem with RGB output?
Ever since we got digital, if I turn on RGB output, I get a better picture, but it shifts noticably left and a bit up compared to composite output. I remember threads from that time blaming the stb/software, as it affected lots of makes and models of TV. Tried it again the other night (still on CR2) and it's still the same. I could adjust the TV, but I'm concerned about causing a right-shift when watching pictures from another source. |
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Does your TV not do it with other sources? All RGB sources cause a slight shift on my TV, and mine has no adjustment.
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