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Hmm isn't the $ky contract only for 12 months too
It still works out cheaper. Anyway the NTL boxe's are more likely to break because there crap.

hmm one of payment of £49 for FREEview vs £19 amonth for a couple of extra channels from NTL

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You cancel your subscription, & get a new one (& a new Sky box)


But you would have paid ntl for less channels for the same money you paid Sky. ;)

You'd rather waste money by giving it to ntl? :eek:

They are. :)

But if you had a freeview box (more channels than ntl's base pack) it costs you £50.00 per year (for the box) at most.

With ntl's base pack, you pay 12 x £17.00 per month=£ 204.00 per year. :angel:

[Edit]-£19.00 per month for Base pack=£2 28.00 per year! :eek:

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That's a bit of a hassle really.... :erm:



More shopping and travel channels, great.... Neil, you know me - do you really think I need any more channels on those two subjects?... ;)



I suppose I can afford to be a bit blase about it, as I don't pay ntl for the services....



I like it when we agree. :)



I'd have to upgrade my ariel to receive freeview.. - girl + electrical stuff = no good. :blush:


I don't pay anything for my phone line and family pack, and I get the Sports and Movies Collection for half price.. ;) :angel:

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It is, but it keeps the costs down-you can also take out insurance against the box failing-not sure how much it is, about £50.00 I think.


No you don't, but we are not alking about you are we? ;)


Exacty-hardly impartial. :angel:


Really?-it worries me! :erm: :pp


We are not talking about you. :afire: :angel:


Really? I'd never have guessed! :rolleyes: ;)

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Not me escpecially, but I'm pretty certain I'm not the only person who wouldn't change to freeview because of having to upgrade their ariel... ?

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I just got a booster box ;)

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[QUOTE=towny]Exactly, I won't be upgrading to 1MB now. That price jump is outragous.

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Made no difference - and depending on where I parked the car ( :rolleyes: ) determined whether I could get channel five even....

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Agreed. The 1meg price rise is too ridiculous for words..... makes me wonder whether there's a reason behind the hike other than just more revenue.... :confused:

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Shame then I couldn't believe how much better the picture and sound where on my nicam tv after being on NTL Digital. The tv upto then have never used another source of reception

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It most certainly is, it makes the 1 meg service 50% more expensive than the 600k.....

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No you don't. Under the terms of the Interactive contract (which is what you sign to get the free box), you are only entitled to one free box per household. Ever. Replacement boxes are around the £200 mark, I believe.

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Serious question (as I am not techy... :dunce: )

Do ntl have anything to gain (as far as network performance goes) from people downgrading to 600k?

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Yes-Aizad has told me to my face that they don't want the 'bandwidth hoggers' that (he thinks) hog all the bandwidth on the 1 meg service. :rolleyes:

Basically-the ntl network can't cope with the demands that are currently being placed upon it. :td:

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So they think the only reason somene would want 1mb broadband is for warez?

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Then that is probably the reason for the ridiculous increase in price on 1meg then... :Yikes:

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Two things are mentioned in this that I do not recall seeing before but NTL claim that the price is held so they must exist...

6p Talk Plan - I assume this is the equivalent of BT Together 1.

Free Voicemail - Is this the equivalent of BT's free 1571?

Are these available in all areas?

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Can they offer a service with the 256k upstream and 600k downstream, thats not something a warez / bandwidth hogger would want is it?

The only reason I wanted to upgrade was to improve my ftp upload speeds. The are no bloody faster than my ISDN line!

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They better adjust it per-region !

Ive had to check my UBR lately using DOCSDIAG due to crap upstreams. Lately it was fixed - they doubled the upstreams available bandwidth.

Each time I did a UBR check - the downstream was only 1/3 full out of all the instances I checked. These were peak times as well!

Its bad enough that I couldnt connect during peak times, and that they've just SHAFTED lots of customer services jobs, but to increase the cost too?

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No doubt to cover the redundancy cost's :mad:

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As far as I know they are

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600/256 would be nice.

Only reason I upped my NTL BB to the 1meg service was to have a higher upload for using XBoxLive.

But, as my UBR upstream often sucks, & they've now increased the 1meg service's price, I'm going to go back down to 600k.

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I wonder for how long?

Telewest's 1meg has gone down to £37.99. ..which is the same price that NTL's 1meg has gone up to.

Telewest's 512k BB has also gone down by £2, to £27.99. ..which is still £3 more than NTL's 600k BB.

So....in the run up to the eventual merger, would TW maybe drop that down again to the same price as NTL's 600k, or would NTL increase their 600k by £3 to match the TW price?

Or am I reading too much into the price changes at both companies? :confused:

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Not 100% correct. This from there website,

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Ah, fair enough. Cheers for the info :)

So it's the "standalone" TW price that's gone down, but the price if you have another service too has stayed the same.

EDIT: Hmm. And TW's 1meg "with another service" price is still £34.99 - it's the standalone TW 1meg price that now matches NTL's new 1meg price.

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Not too sure. I think it may have always been that way?

oops just noticed haha this is gr8. It makes NTL look even worse. There 1MB broadband service,

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LOL, yeah.

TW 1meg (if you have another service) = £35 (same as always, only the "standalone" is changing - and that's going down to £37.99)

NTL 1meg (with or without another service) = £37.99 (up by £3)


NTL does look worse, compared to that.

I wonder how they'll streamline the pricing when they merge?

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£3 more for 1mbit :eek: they are just pricing themselves out of the market with such an increase :(

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I think thats the whole problem. The people at the top dont seem to know the market!

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How about this for a comparison:

http://www2.fast24.net/packages/broadband/2mb-50_1.asp

2Meg ADSL for £37.49 a month.

I'm off. Final straw really. Going to downgrade BB tomorrow to 600k. Sports channels will be going after the weekend footie games and I will be booking Mr Sky, Mr BT and Mr Reasonably-priced-ADSL-provider to come and replenish my services when I quit NTL. Hopefully I also won't have to pay the £20 month for access to working newsgroup servers, which should be a standard thing with any decent ISP. Looks like my 4 year wait for a working red button will be fulfilled, but not by the company I thought would do it!

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Ironic how they have 5 out-of-date internet service award icons on this price rise leaflet. :D

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Is it me or have they used crap quality Sky and BT logos, and nicked the old BT one off their website in the leaflet?

Botchery at its finest :D ;) :rofl:

Indeed. What happened to their Mirror award - it seems to have disappeared?! :confused:

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Thanks Debs! Does anybody know how to set up free voicemail?

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ISP's newsgroup services generally suck. Pipex have some nice newsgroup servers although they get pretty busy.

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Cheers for the warning. Will probably go for one of the bigger ISPs in the end. Have definitely decided I'm tired of NTL. Fancy interactive on my TV with multi-screen options, caller display on my phone, working email/newsgroups, no daily cap and generally slightly lower prices for each element and better returns for my money. :)

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Demons work well - unfortunately you can only access them from a Demon IP range, so despite paying them for Dial Up and using their pop servers I cannot get to use their news servers anymore and have the joy of NTLs.

At least text.news works most of the time.

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But after a year you're responsible for the $ky box if it f**ks up.

The Freeview comparison is interesting. With CR3 rolling out and multi-screens etc on the way, NTL will have a vastly superior all round product whereas Freeview is practically at full capacity ( eg only 2 multi-screens on News24 interactive). Front Row / PPV access doesn't exist on Freeview. Also as mentioned before E4 is only available (part-time) on the crappy T*ts Up TV thingy pay TV that most Freeviewers can't/won't get (£7.99 pm).

My £8.50 (£9.50 from June) is reasonable value.:)

All IMHO

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Most of my family, friends and neighbours have Sky and none of us have had to have an engineer visit. Family members have three Sky boxes sat waiting to be used if they are needed. These extra boxes were out of contract boxes picked up free from friends / neighbours who for one reason or another had no further use for them.

The other point with Sky is that after your first year is up you can use the box without any monthly charge to view quite a selection of channels. http://www.wickonline.com/fta.htm

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And what if you do need an engineer visit. This has been covered before on here. It seems to be the only thing pro NTL people can come up with. The box should be covered for the first 12 months anyway. After that well your contract with Sky is only 12 month

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So they bloody well should for the money they are charging!

We are talking about Freeview at £50.00 for the first year, & nothing after that, compared to ntl's base pack @ 12 x £19.00 per year=£2 28.00 for the 1st year, & every year after that.

So....£ 228.00 per year for ntl's second rate (supposedly) interactive service that has been 'coming soon' for how long??) against a one off payment of £50.00 for slightly less channles on Freeview.

Value for money? I don't think so somehow.

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Hmm there are still free slots on the FREEview platform and more channels due like Disneys Daytime. Also I heard some of those shopping channels are just placeholders. If true when the government start dropping off the analogue signal its not going to be all at once. So you'll see channels like BBC2,CH4 & Ch5 gone first. This will freeup allot of space for the FREEview platform again. Now don't forget there still talking about this starting from 2006

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Disney's Daytime was supposed to have launched ages ago on Freeview, but it hasn't yet. And I very much doubt that it will given the previous promised additions to Freeview which have failed to materialise

a) CBM - there was a slot allocated for it on the EPG and a static caption was broadcast for some time with the infamous ntl phrase "coming soon". However it was eventually pulled because IIRC the people behind it could their arse in gear and sort out what the channel was meant to broadcast.

b) Turner Classic Movies (TCM) and Boomerang timeshare - this was rumoured for a long time and the deal eventually fell through because IIRC the boss of AOL TW didn't want their 'premium' channels being put onto a free platform. Also it could be because disagreements about the carriage cost on the platform.

c) Sentana Sports - this was also rumoured as well, but unsurprisingly has failed to materialised. Whether it was ever going to be on the platform in the first place is another question.

I think so. IIRC Bidup or Price Drop are placeholders for a channel owned by Channel 4, dubbed "G2" because it is going to show documentaries. There is an article on Media Guardian about it, but I don't think it will be launching for sometime yet.

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Ok,

Here is what a one off payment of £50.00 (approx) will get you from Freeview....

And here is what you get after paying £238.00 per year to ntl.....

So-approx 10 more channels with ntl, & obviously your phone line too.
If you take away the phone line (12 x £9.50=à ƒÆ’ƒâ€šÃ‚£114.00) from the yearly charge of £238.00 , you are left paying £124.00 per year for approx 10 more channels.

That is approx £74.00 more in the first year alone! :eek:

Over 2 years, you would have spent £50.00 on Freeview, & £248.00 with ntl's Base Pack.

So, please tell me-where is the value for money again??

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Hold on- it's £19 pm for TV and phone. So thats £114 pa for NTL. I agree about the current system but from what I've seen the coming soon fiasco is near at a n end. I'm not happy about the price increase but each person has thier own needs/demands on DTV and I'll see out the next couple of weeks as the service goes up a notch.

My cable picture is superior to DTT as well- I have both systems.;)



$KY ONE and B/Eurosport are probably worth the extra in many peoples eyes---look at the DTT forums in DS in TUTV discussions- there are many!:D

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Changing your washing machine powder will not allow you to receive freeview any clearer I'm afraid. :)


The spikey thing on the end of your co-ax lead is called an aerial.

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Have you read my post above re the breakdown of prices? ;)

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:LOL: :dunce:

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Again I may be wrong but I'm sure someone on Digitalspy had a screenshot of it testing on one of the channels the otherweek ;)

Also ITV3 is rumoured to be coming at the end of the year

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Yes- thats why i did the edit and added the info on $ky 1 /Eurosport.
You left out the 3 other channels that vary each month - the guest channels.

If you think its important to include Freeviews shopping channels then you might as well count NTLs - though you might need a calculator!:rolleyes:

And Front Row/PPV events access .....

Oh yes Prem+.... probably the joker in the pack!

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Base Pack Channels in full - not including 30 odd radio stations...

attheraces
Ideal World
BBC One
ITV News
Auction World ITV1
BBC Two
ITV2
BBC Three
QVC
BBC Four
Screenshop & Price-drop.tv

BBC News 24
Sky News

BBC Parliament
Sky One

Bid-Up TV
Sky One Mix
British Eurosport
Sky Sports News
Buy:ntl Sky Travel
CBBC
Sky Travel Extra
CBeebies
Stop & Shop
Channel 4
Thane Direct
Channel ntl
The Hits
CNBC
TMF

E4 Thomas Cook TV

E4+1 TV Travel Shop

five
TV Travel Shop 2

Front Row (50 Channels)
UKTV Bright Ideas
Front Row Preview Channel
UKTV History
F tn Yes 661
Guest Channel x 3

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http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/sh...&postcount=243 ;)

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No thats it. Thats sold Digital too me now. I'm getting it so I can watch the radio on my tv lol

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A selling point of Freeview as well !!

BBC Radio 7 / Five Live Extra are big hits on DTT...:Yikes:

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The list you posted for ntl was incomplete, that's why I posted the list.

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Seeming how ITV2 is doing so well on the platform it will no doubt be on. There making money via the adverts because its doing well and Yes Daytime will be on other platforms. You have to pay for those mind you ;)

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yes just using up free space. Space that wouldn't fit a channel I'm told. What excuse do NTL and Sky have. Oh thats right they think people prefer to watch it and they have naff stereos

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A lot of the radio stations on NTL digital are not available on my Hi-Fi as they are digital only and I object to buying a DAB radio for £100 when you can buy a Freeview box for half the price!

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But I got it from the ntlhome website!!

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Well I object to paying a TV Licence only to find the BBC spending around 650million ayear onit and then allowing the rubbish on my TV screen too. Radio has its own place and its not on a tv:td:

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I like the EXTRA radio stations on the STB- some of which i'd never get anywhere else- useful when browsing the 'walled-garden' internet pages rather than annoying cr*p TV shows in the background - after all if it was worth watching i wouldn't be browsing!:D

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:Yikes: :Yikes:
It is still good to see in the "Still Great Value with NTL:Home" section, that there are comparing phone costs to the old BT call rates, where they state that daytime calls are 7.91p a minute whereas now BT matcch the 3p that NTL charge.

I have NTL phone (at the moment), but I believe there advertising is really ambiguous and misleading at time at confusing the general public. Also I do not like that they have decreased thier service to me, by stopping itemised billing, which in the past I used to prove errors.

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A total side issue here...Musicman they have not stopped your itemised billing they have just started to charge for it, so if you want it you can still have it just at a cost :)

To be honest alot of the people on ntl that have th ebase pack like it cos they can add things to it for a month and they have the ability to get PPV movies and the like. many people on Freeview don't want such things which is why Freeview is fine for them. They are 2 totally different products aimed at different people IMO. However there are some ppl on ntl base pack who don't want to add things or watch PPV movies who would be better off on Freeview

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I really don't think there should be any line rental in this day and age. It just goes to show there's not enough competition. Especially when some mobile phones work out cheaper with free minutes

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Just to make the set complete and to add to Neils list of Freeview channels and Orangebirds NTL base pack channels. Below is a list of channels you get on Sky without a viewing card. So, after your first 12 months contract to get the free digiblox and installation for £1 you can cancel your Sky contract and pay nothing for these. For ITV, Channel 4 and Five you need a viewing card but there is no monthly subscription charge for them.

One thing to note is that the GOD channel is on this list but costs you £6 per month if you want it from NTL.


101 BBC One London
102 BBC Two England
115 BBC Three
116 BBC Four
151 S4C
160 Life TV
166 Overload
172 Game Network
178 You Tv
181 Avago
184 BEN
187 Reality TV
202 Performance
205 Rapture TV
208 Friendly TV
211 ACTV
214 L!VE TV
217 Nation217
220 Fashion TV
226 Game In TV
232 Hollywood TV
247 Classics TV
416 Motors TV
422 Extreme Sports
429 Golf TV
431 iSports TV
432 Wrestling Chnl
455 Chart Show TV
456 The Vault
464 Classic FM TV
467 Channel U
501 Sky News
507 BBC News 24
508 BBC Parliament
513 CNN
519 S4C2
525 ITV News
528 EuroNews
534 CCTV-9
616 CBBC
617 CBeebies
619 POP
620 POP+
630 QVC
631 TV Travel Shop
632 TV Travel Shop 2
634 TVShop
635 Ideal World
636 Price-drop.tv
637 Shop America
638 Travel Deals
639 Simply Shopping
640 Best Direct
641 Simply Home
642 Simply TV
643 Simply Ideas
644 TV Warehouse
646 Factory Outlet
647 Bid-up.tv
648 Thomas Cook TV
649 TellSell
650 Best Direct+
651 Auction World
652 Shop on TV
655 Thane Direct
656 Shop Smart
658 TV Warehouse
659 Shop 24/7
660 Stop + Shop
661 Yes 661
662 ScreenShop
663 Factory Outlet 2
664 JML Direct
666 ShoppingWorld
667 Vitality
669 Going Places TV
670 Factory Outlet 3
671 God Channel
672 GOD 2
673 Wonderful
674 TBN Europe
676 revelation
677 UCB TV
683 JobsTV
684 The Community Channel
685 The Dating Channel
686 Txt me TV
687 Open Access TV
688 GayDate TV
690 ChatBox
692 Information TV
695 Create & Craft
696 Exchange & Mart TV
697 Teletext Holidays
698 Broadband TV
699 Golf Pro-Shop
805 PCNE Chinese
807 mta - muslim tv
824 Abu Dhabi TV
827 ATN
828 Vectone Urdu
829 SAB TV
830 Record TV
831 Vectone Hindi
832 Vectone Tamil
833 Vectone Bangla
836 Islam Channel

Radio Channels
851 BBC Radio 1
852 BBC Radio 2
853 BBC Radio 3
854 BBC Radio 4 FM
855 BBC Radio 5 Live
856 Classic FM
857 Virgin Radio
859 Classic Gold
860 The Storm
861 Planet Rock
862 Core
863 Capital Gold
864 XFM
865 BBC World Service
866 BBC Radio Scotland
867 BBC Radio Wales
868 BBC Radio Ulster
869 BBC Asian Network
870 BBC 6 Music
871 The Mix
872 WRN EuroMax
873 Premier
874 Heart
875 UCB Europe
876 Cross Rhythm
877 One Word
878 SBN
879 Solar Radio
880 Panjab Radio
881 BBC 7
882 Prime Time
883 Sunrise Radio
886 UCB Inspirational
887 1Xtra BBC
888 TWR
890 UCB Bible
891 UCB Talk
892 RTE Europe
893 BBC Radio 4 LW
894 BBC Radio 5 Live Sports Extra
895 Club Asia
896 Real Radio
897 EWTN
900 Sukh Sagar
901 Asian Gold
902 BBC W/S Extra
904 BBC Radio Cymru
905 BBC Radio nan Gaidheal
906 Calvary Radio
908 Gaydar Radio
909 Family Radio
910 RTE Radio1
911 The Arrow - Rock
912 Capital Disney
913 Apple FM
914 RTE 2FM
915 RTE Lyric Fm
916 RTE RaidiÃÃâ€*’³ na Gaeltachta
917 Jazz FM
918 Akash Radio
919 Desi Radio
920 The Hits
921 Galaxy FM
922 Smash Hits
923 Easy Radio
924 Century FM
925 Capital FM
926 Amrit Bani
927 LBC 97.3
928 Kiss
929 Heat
930 Magic
931 Q
932 Mojo
933 Kerrang
934 FCUK
935 Spectrum 1
936 Liberty Radio

941 BBC One Scotland
942 BBC One Wales
943 BBC One Northern Ireland
944 BBC One London
945 BBC One North East & Cumbria
946 BBC One Yorkshire
947 BBC One East Yorkshire & Lincs
948 BBC One North West
949 BBC One West Midlands
950 BBC One East Midlands
951 BBC One East (East edition)
952 BBC One East (West edition)
953 BBC One South East
954 BBC One South
955 BBC One South (Oxford)
956 BBC One West
957 BBC One South West
958 BBC One Channel Islands
960 BBC Two Scotland
961 BBC Two Wales
962 BBC Two Northern Ireland

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Amazing coincidence that they're also all the crap ones.

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So anyway by now everyone should know NTL are a bunch of thieving B#'tards

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:rolleyes: a bit harsh, if you don't like their products don't use them some people are actually happy with there ntl service (not talking abt me) ;)

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They may be crap to you but may just be what some people want. Can you honestly say that there is no channel in the list that you would ever watch.

Why do NTL charge £6 for the "GOD" channel if it is so crap that nobody wants to watch it? They must have some customers for it, if not they could use the slot for something customers do want.

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I really don't think its harsh though. Look through this thread. The people at the top don't seem to know the market. There pricing themselves out of it. Expecting people to bail them out of the black hole a little faster and help with there huge wage rise's and redundancy package's for those below them

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No just Defiant being himself ;) ain't it good to have him back :)

Defiant - Just because the company puts prices up does not mean they are thieves, bosses unfortionatly will pay themselves big bonuses if they can get away with it, ntl are not alone in that. It is a shame that they saw fit to cut 1,500 jobs over 3 years after paying such big binuses to themselves :rolleyes: but until the shareholders put a stop to it they will no doubt carry on

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I agree Scooby but unfortunately the largest shareholders now are the banks so nothing will happen until the last minute again

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I can hand on heart say that out of all of them I only watch.

101 BBC One London
102 BBC Two England
501 Sky News

In regards to charging for the GOD channel?? I don't know maybe they have been told to by some higher power :)

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To the people who are saying that after 12 months you have to pay for Sky to repair/do anything to your set-top box. Are you absolutely sure that is 100% true? My parents have had sky for about 12 or 13 years now. They had analogue for about 6 or so years and digital for the last 5 or 6. In that time they have had 3 engineer call-outs. The first time they were charged £60, but this was later refunded after the engineer visit, in which he solved their problem. They recently, some time in the last 6 months, had a completely new set top box with NO CHARGE at all. This was a full engineer visit, replaced set top box + when some things didn't work, some channels didn't show in the list, Sky had him call back again the next day to finish the job. This is the second replacement box they have had, all outside the initial 12 month contract period. So, what's the deal then. Not a penny has been paid by my parents for these visits and box swaps, all outside the fabled 12 month contract.

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I am guessing this is just Sky being sensible. They could say that they would not replace the box but then they would lose your parents custom - after all Sky have had 12 to 13 years subscription out of your parents!
Sky seem quite happy to give a free box away with one years subscription so with 2 or 3 of boxes in 12 years Sky are raking in the money!

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Off-topic comments have been removed from this thread - Please try to remain on topic especially a topic as important as this one. Thanks.

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Exactly, and so is there any real difference to NTL? I just spoke to my mum and she said they originally had a Grundig digital box which stopped working properly, so Sky gave them another box, she can't remember the make. They had this for a couple of months, but weren't satisfied with it, so Sky gave them another, Pace this time, which they have been happy with. TBH it's only what you'd expect from a company you were paying a sum of money to every month. I don't know why people think NTL are doing people such a service. Many people are paying them almost £100 a month for services, so the least they can do is make repairs when things go wrong, it protects their investment, and Sky are no different. Pay £40 a month for their full package and outside the 12 months, if things go wrong, they'll replace it for you if they think you'll leave, or even think of leaving. It's good business sense. Is it better to spite your nose over the cost of a £100 set top box, or keep pulling in £40 a month, or £80+ in NTLs case. So the people claiming NTL are so much better than Sky, purely because they think Sky will throw you overboard after 12 months are being unrealistic.

I'm calling NTL tonight, to downgrade broadband to 600k and will probably cut some TV services after the weekend, Sports mainly. I will tell NTL I intend to leave for Sky/BT/ADSL and I bet they try and give me an incentive to stay, because they want to protect a good paying customer. Unfortunately for them, this increase is the last straw for me. There are too many small things wrong with their phone/TV/internet services, which alone wouldn't bother me, but together and at an increased price, has finally persuaded me to get off my arse and change.

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I do agree that some of the price rises are unjustified, however, your accusing ntl of a criminal act.

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I think your going to get a shock then. As you already know NTL are no Sky.

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No, you'll find NTL are very good at trying to give customers a little somethign to change their minds. Same as my mobile phone company. Had 2 lines. Called to cancel one. They tried to give me three different levels of bribery, before they gave up and realised I was serious about cancelling. :)

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I may just be thinking that yes. I may not be the only one thinking this either ;)

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Old news that. You dont think your the onlyone who's done that with the mobile phone company do you?. Other companies like that do want to keep there customers yes but were talking NTL here. I can tell you from experiance it wont work unless they've changed tac :erm:

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Your allowed to think it, but saying things like this could land you in all sorts of trouble, i.e your comment is slanderous.

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Look around the forum - there are plenty of people here who have reduced price services, freebies etc that ntl retentions have given them when they want to cancel. ntl can and do do this. All too much IMO. :)

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well if they have a problem I've no problem with you giving them my IP address :angel: I think it would go down well in the press :pp

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Did I say was going to do that? No, so do not assume thanks. All I was saying is you cannot just say things like that. If a newspaper said what you had said, ntl would have grounds to sue and they would most probably win. In anycase we are draggin this from the main theme of prices rises so lets get back to that.

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It's in print, so it's potential libel - and we all know how big libel settlements can be. I'd think seriously about removing that post if I were you.

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When date is this price increase effective? I've had no literature or anything in the post.

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If you read my earlier post, you would have seen it said 1st of June. ;)

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Sorry, have the attention span of an NTL director! :)

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You got the wage's too lol

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I wish! :D

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i got my bill a few days ago and recieved no information, i guess i will have to wait for next month's bill to have a suprise in it. :rolleyes:

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Except it won't be a surprise now will it!? :D

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:rofl: watches the sarcasm flow :D

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Ntl have shot themselves in the foot. They are going to no doubt lose many of the 1 meg customers to those that can get adsl and those that cannot will probably drop to 600k. I only had the 1 meg because I was sharing with bopdude and we both where heavy users. Good news for all the adsl providers out there I guess :erm:

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is there a list of providers that use there own pipes, instead of using BT's supply line (except for bulldog) ?

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Hmmm think i'll drop the tv, no way worth nearly £30 a month... might as well go back to bt for the phone line ( caller id and better 1471 ) i'll keep the broadband incase that trial is a sucess and you can boost your connection etc

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I was in the trial. I wouldn't waste the time waiting mate. The novelty wears off very, very quickly!

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If you're going back to BT, it may be worth your while having a mooch about www.ADSLguide.org.uk You might just be surprised at what you can get for your money :)