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Well THIS IS ART by anyone's definition.

I may get to see this next month depending on whether tickets are available or I have to queue.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-13334287.

I should perhaps add that this is a unique exhibition unlikely to happen again.There haven't been this many Da Vinci's in the same building ever and the negotiations to get just half of his masterpieces together have been very delicate..I cannot begin to imagine the security cost and the insurance cover costs..

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I had a search and couldn't find this:-

Computerised Painting

It's quite clever in that you can click on any person and read about them.

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Interesting. Some of the click through links are good as well. It would make a great jigsaw.

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Hmm! I wonder at the juxtaposition of Stalin and Da Vinci..:erm:

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I wondered about the label that stated the character was either Charles Darwin or Noah and enjoyed the in depth wiki entry on Lolcats. :D

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Have you clicked on the camel? :)

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Yup I thought a couple were a tad cruel, funny but cruel. :D

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I have a few carps about it.Bonaparte but no Wellington and only 3 women and one girl.Where was Madam Curie or Florence Nightingale?

In fact I suspect it's a very idiosyncratic selection.:erm:

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I don't know if others have seen paper art but I find the work produced fascinating. It sure beats any origami that I have attempted.

http://www.hongkiat.com/blog/masters...er-sculptures/ and http://www.hongkiat.com/blog/masters...tures-part-ii/


I particularly like the pieces produced by Calvin Nicholls and more of his work is here.

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Curie is there just above Lincoln & Mao (looks like a bloke though!).

See attached...

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Still not many wimmen though.I'd have Elizabeth 1 there too as well as Victoria and Elizabeth Fry.

But then it's the choice of the artist I suppose.:)

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There's 72 virgins at the back... :D

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they are building this just up the A1 from me ,should be good when it's finished ,a novel way to fill in a open cast pit


http://www.hjbanks.com/northumberlandia/1a_1.htm

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/at...1&d=1321137587

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Well, Martin Boyce won it but opinions were divided...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-15393413

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Not any more, unless it's found quickly... :(

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-16266378

Despicable.

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Hmmm, rummaging through women's handbags...Link

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Worth going to see if you're not too far away:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-17364748

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Not a favourite..a bit cartoonish for my liking.

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This looks good if you live in the area:

http://www.holdengallery.mmu.ac.uk/gospel.php

Ladies of leisure like Jo ;) should be able to make it, but it's only open 10:00 - 16:00 Monday to Friday. I may be able to get down one Friday afternoon. :)

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If these are real, then this is some talent.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...hs-pencil.html

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That is amazing! :tu:

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Doesn't really appeal Cobby. It all looks like a poor attempt to cross the styles of Barbara Hepworth with Salvidor Dali. Though I should be going over the hills to Halifax in the next few weeks so I may just call in at the Yorkshire Sculpture Park if my business meeting ends earlier than expected.



The drawings are awesome.

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The post you quoted was about an exhibition to mark 30 years of The Smiths, the Joan Miro exhibition was the one above... ;) :p:

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The detail there and realism is absolutely incredible :clap:

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Ooooops. You know, of course, that I was referring to your link http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-17364748

I really must stop posting when i have just taken my meds as they really do mess with my ability to concentrate on what I am doing. I think I had better just go back to the Birthday Threads whilst I am a tad discombobulated.

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You want to see what coloured pencil artists can do..

http://www.ukcps.co.uk/exhibition2010/index.html

http://www.ukcps.co.uk/exhibition201...ey_Harvest.jpg

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That's excellent, really well done for pencils. My wife dabbles with colour pencils now and again. I think it's a lot harder to get anything too life like using coloured pencils myself, so that picture is brilliant.
Here's a couple of my wifes old pics that I scanned ages ago. Obviously resized and doesn't look as good as they do on paper.

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You have a vary talented wife peanut. Definitely well above the dabbling level. :)

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Look out for Alonya Nickelsen.

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This chap Bob Ebdon is excellent too

http://www.colourpencilart.co.uk/flowers.html

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If you're in the Manchester area, 50 years of the Sunday Times Magazine photos:
I might take issue with Jilly Cooper ;)

Link

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Thanks for the link Cobby, John and I will be in Manchester next week so we shall have a browse. :)

Oh, and lay off Jilly Cooper. :D

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Went today. Well worth it, some iconic photographs...

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-17957766

Big boobies I bet dilli likes this one.;);)

I love it, reminds me of Beryl Cook.:D:D

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MMMmmm - nice :)

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I love the richness of the paintings. Truly voluptuous. :)

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A short piece I did with a friend of mine to showcase his artwork for a competition:

http://www.woolgatherartprize.com/rob-youngson/

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Brilliant! What's the music?

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Thanks.

The music is short piece I created myself.
I did the music and video.

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Excellent!

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You are a talented guy Halcyon. :tu: Your friend isn't bad either. :)

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SS Great Britain on a sea of lime jelly? :erm:

Not sure!
https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2012/05/43.jpg

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Words fail me..is it a Guinness book of records affair?

I thought 'happenings' were an obsolete form of art expression these days,so 60s.

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It rather begs the question "Why?".

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These are unbelievable....

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...en-camera.html

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But unfortunately the artist will NEVER be entered for the Turner Prize..Because he will be deemed to have no artistic expression..and all art critics despise still life unless they are by old masters.

The art world is full of BS and hypocrisy..:mad:

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Makes this the joke that it really is.

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2012/06/53.jpg

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No it doesn't..Van Gogh didn't have the advantage of Photography

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They're not photos Maggy. they fooled you though. we can tell :)

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WOW :shocked:

If only I could be 1% that good I'll be happy.

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Personally I think the sunflowers are awesome.

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Me too.He did several versions

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2012/06/44.jpg https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2012/06/45.jpg

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I know which piece of work I would rather live with and unfortunately, despite the technical brilliance of Mr de Graaf's work it would not be one of his. Van Gogh's Sunflowers wins my vote over every one of the clinically perfect studies in the link.

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I like them both jo..The sunflowers because Van Gogh was trying so desperately to show the sunlight,the textures as well as the passion he was feeling and thinking he was failing..all because no one else could see what he saw..and Graafs because it is modern day versions of what the 17th century Dutch still life painters were producing..with some simply stunning skills considering they didn't have modern day photography to aid them. though of course they did have access to the Camera Obscura.:)

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I've never liked the sunflowers. to me it's just amateurish in the way the whole lot is done. including the wonky vase.

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I use a camera a lot when doing the research for my artwork and it always feels a bit like cheating when I base my paintings solely on a single photo composition. So I guess my reaction to Graaf's work is influenced by this. I have no problem acknowledging the sheer brilliance of his skill in using acrylics, or his deft draftsmanship but would possibly have appreciated any artistic skill he has if I could have compared his finished work with the original photograph to be able to judge how much he had manipulated the original subject material to give his own interpretation. Ow, thinking that deep has strained my poor, slightly the worse for imbibing copious amounts of red wine, brain. :D
The charm of the sunflowers to me is in their 'wonkyness'. The nice thing about art is that there is no rule that says we all have to like the same thing. :)

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That's alright then. I've found something I'm allowed to not like without people disapproving that I don't like it :)

but it really is horrible.

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-19146362

Sigh! :(

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:D Oh my, I can just see some over rich person displaying this pile of manure in his expensive, but tasteless, home. I have heard of "taking the p***" but this takes the art of parting a fool from his money to a whole new level.

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Where there's muck there's brass. ;)

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Lifted from another site with one word changed hence no link as the word hits the swear filter.

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Not impressed by the fresco that much anyway..Don't think I would go out of my way to see it.:erm:

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Is it art, almost certainly, is it sexist definitely

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotlan...-fife-19390354

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I didn't post about this because as far as I'm concerned ART should be inclusive not exclusive.

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I too saw this report and was concerned about the exclusive slant.

Having grown up in a business environment where women were stereotypically typists and men were the bosses I fought for years to be treated as an equal with my male counterparts and feel that to put up barriers, in any area of life where none previously existed, is wrong. Maybe a good way of getting publicity and attracting attention but not something I would want to be associated with.

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-19698006

Fantastic!:D
I'll be taking a look when I'm next in Cardiff.

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I watched the programme featuring the authentication of these paintings last night and was pleasantly surprised when the Turner expert Martin Butlin begrudgingly agreed that the evidence did in fact show that he had previously been wrong in declaring them to be fakes, seemingly he had been previously swayed by the moralistic views of earlier 'experts'. Watching him squirm and admit he had been wrong was delicious.

The story behind the paintings was fascinating, the reported comments of the art critics who first saw these paintings after Turners death and judged them to be fakes based on their own moralistic prejudices was an eye opener.

I wonder how many art pieces to-day would be treated as fake due to their respected creators having secret affairs with people judged to be socially unworthy? Not many I would guess, money speaks too loudly now.

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Much of authentication is down to personal prejudice and the almighty filthy lucre.

Many paintings done by women during the medieval period were deemed to have been done by their fathers,brothers or husbands or any other family male member or a male apprentice because no mere woman could produce art work the equal of any man.:rolleyes:

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Maybe that is where the saying "Behind every successful man there lurks a woman who's in charge." comes from. :)

I once had to deal with a pompous idiot who wouldn't believe that I was the person who had been brought in to see if his 'precious' crumbling ceiling bosses could be restored in situ. He insisted in speaking to John who had driven me to the job. Painting and guilding 25ft up on top of scaffolding was man's work don't ya know. :D

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-19477930

Great idea..celebrating uniqueness and diversity.

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-19937044

Quick, give me a paint roller...or a felt pen..:rolleyes:

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I quite like it actually, lots of energy...

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I remember painting something similar at 5 years old in school, pity I never kept it, they should try going to the average primary school as it would cost a lot less than £21 million, the term "Money for old rope" comes to mind.

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I want art not energy.;)

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I don't mind looking at abstract artwork, and indeed own a couple of pieces, but if I were going to shell out £21m I would rather have a piece of artwork that took skill to achieve rather than buy something based just on the name of the artist.

The "Emperors New Clothes" springs to mind when I hear some of the opinions based by the professional dealers who have a vested interest in achieving the highest prices.

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-20218094

And us women get flack for protesting about page 3 wimmen...:D

I say if we have female nudes everywhere then why not a few more penises on view?
Also is it women complaining or men?:erm:

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looks like a cheap statement for shock factor, but art, I don't agree it is anything to do with art.

As for page 3, I think that is long overdue to be cancelled, I don't think it is needed anymore. Before you had models that made a career from Page 3, then went on to other things. Nowadays its a different model everyday, so all they're getting a is a couple of quid with no guarantee of anything else afterwards, feels outdated and cheap today.

I don't agree that we have naked woman on show everywhere, topless is different to full nudity. If this exhitbition was showing full female nudity for public viewing then it'll be just as controversial.

Personally full nudity in an art form is good and nothing wrong with it, but for a cheap stunt I don't think it'll go down well being male or female. It's not as if nudity, sex and porn is needed to be shown in public these days when you have the internet.

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With all due respect I think you have missed the point.That it's about how we view the nude in art and in real life.How it's more acceptable to see naked or partially clothed females than males and yet the male nude has been around as an art form for as long as the female form.

The exhibition however ran into the usual shock and outrage about male nudes.Note it's male nudes not female nudes.Plus they were not out to shock or titillate.

So what does it say about our society?What does it say about the complainers?Are we like our parents or are we more laid back about sex.

The fact that we regard an erect penis as obscene but not an erect nipple..

And yet our ancestors regarded an erect penis as something to be proud of as a sign of virility and fertility.I'm thinking of the Cerne Abbas figure as well as the Japanese penchant of making giant stone phalluses.

When did we star thinking that it was not something that should be seen?

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Imo it's because female bits are a lot more artistic and nicer to look at than the hairy dangly spherical objects hidden in mens pants, this is confirmed by Michael Angelo's David, he may have just been a boy but he's hung like a tiny baby and that's all there is to it imo.

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You do realise that your post reveals a lot about you.;)

I'm beginning to think it's men who don't want phalluses on display.Like they either don't match up or they might be expected to match up..That women might think 'so that's what I've been missing'. That women lie when they say size doesn't matter.

I suspect it's the size of a man's bank balance that counts for most women;)

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I would have liked to know how the numbers of complaints against this exhibition were split between Men and Women. I have a sneaky suspicion that there is an element of Penis envy involved with this when it comes to criticism of this exhibition by the male portion of the viewing public.

A lot of men see no problem in 'admiring' the female form but when it comes to admiring the attributes of their own sex it triggers a whole other set of fears and possible feelings of inadequacy.

Michael Angelo's David was acceptable because he made the male viewers feel that they had very little to try to live up too.

I do of course realise that few of our errrrr male members will have any such hangups their being a very well balanced, though small percentage, of the male species. :)

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Yes it revels I don't like looking at scrotums, that's the bit I thinks unattractive not the penis and interesting use of the word phalluses, the only art I ever recall seeing with a full lob on was on a toilet door.

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I would link but I suspect there would be barrage of report posts if I did..:rolleyes:

Just look for Phallus, Japanese and statue.

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Thanks, Maggy :tu:

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Erm... only females can have penis envy... :blush:

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Rubbish..of course men have penis envy..just as women have breast envy.:D

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Is that based on how low can they go? ;)

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Luckily they don't have one :)

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So should we be less bothered by male genitalia than we are? Or is puerile jokes the only way men can cope with the idea?

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Naked ramblers?
we had one. he kept getting arrested and he wasn't even excited.

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Read the thread Gary and keep up..it's about art and this part is about how we view nudity in art..The NR has nothing do do with the discussion.

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thanks tbh though I preferred the one on the toilet door...

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Still works of art and the toilet door won't be in a gallery anytime soon..;)

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Life is art.
do you think the male penis is art?
are we bothered about it. or is it a nuisance?

I think the basis is really on how one person depicts art to another.
like if the male and his penis were doing a damsel about to faint pose. compared to a male and his penis standing in a crowded street looking bored.

I don't think a males anatomy is art. but I do think a womans is.

but then the woman would have to be attractive for me to class it as art. no doubt the man likewise.
art is very controversial really. we pick and choose in order to sway our decision and our tastes in order to class it as art or not.

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I think the human body is beautiful even a man's genitalia..Even fat or skinny,old or young.From an artist viewpoint the body cannot be ugly.Beauty of course is supposed to be in the eye of the beholder but for artists like Da Vinci even ugly people had a place in his work.His sketch books are full of what many would regard as grotesque and ugly.Even an old woman or man with the wrinkles and marks of the life they have had is worth recording..It's only today's generations that think only the young and beautiful should be regarded as worthy of notice and even then that spot is reserved for a very narrow view of beauty.

How many size 0 6ft tall women are there in the world? and yet this is supposed to be the epitome of the clothes designers idea of the perfect woman.
Personally I prefer Goya's lovely fat and curvy women myself.;)

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The driver for this is nothing to do with art, rather the cut-throat nature of the fashion industry - if you don't make the clothes look as good as they can be, you'll soon go out of business.

http://www.newmodels.com/height.html

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With the result that they look ridiculous on smaller fatter women and men who are the majority of us consumers.;)

Anyway what goes around comes around.The 50s figure will be back some day.

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I think this is a wonderful idea.

http://www.bewsgorvin.co.uk/sculptur...lls-spain.html

http://www.bewsgorvin.co.uk/echoing-...slideshow.html

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Very interesting Link Maggy, Thank You. Love the idea.

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-n...wales-20328172

Some interesting work..