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I don't know if anyone else has noticed this, it may just be me reading thing's into stuff but several times on the news I have seen so called moderate Muslims as guests being interviewed about some alleged injustice or other, turn round and say that if the injustice is not addressed then the extremists will take action, now to some that may sound like a warning, to me it sounded like blackmail, 'do as we say or we will let the extremist's of the leash'.

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perhaps because their religion is different to the others you have quoted and is more a way of life. re the school head dress fuss.

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To me that's as good as excusing the extremists.

(BTW, some of those should be re-labelled 'terrorists', since their protests are clearly designed to terrorise us into compliance.)

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I'd argue that the skull-cap is as integral to Jewish life as anything the Muslims have. Ditto for the crucifix for huge numbers of Catholics.

The big difference is that the other faiths haven't raised items of apparel to some divine status.

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The reason for this IMO is that Muslims are supremists, it is ok to criticise, mock, censure etc any other faith as long as it is not Islam.

They think they're better than us, and look down on any other faith group.

I'm glad to see at last some our politicians speaking out.

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Dead (no pun intended) right !

Re: our politicians ..... Too little, WAAAAY to late ! :erm:

BTW I wonder where the usual CF PC defenders of the faith brigade are ?? :confused:

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On a self-imposed exile, I believe.

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nick griffin must be laughing his head off.these nutters with there placards are doing his job for him.

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Out looking at the fact that the majority of both sides of the debate are not physically attacking one another in the UK.That there are no riots here and that moderate muslims,christians,hindus,sikhs,buddists,athiests are all able to debate this without coming to blows.That the moderate British muslims want those placard carrying extremists arrested for breaking the law just as much as anyone else.

I feel very heartened that thus far there has only been a minor demonstration outside an embassy with some possibly illegal activity,another march peaceful of about 400 and no embassy actually being burned to the ground.If we can try to accept that there is offence on both sides over this then maybe a dialogue can take place that allows for a better understanding of what a united British society will or will not find acceptable.

Britain can possibly be a beacon of what IS achievable if only we don't let rhetoric and injured feelings undermine what is the best thing about us British.The ability to adapt. :)

Of course I may just be invisible...:rolleyes:

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He's been shouting from the rooftops for years that this is what would happen...

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But where is the offence that is supposed to have been committed on 'our' (for want of a better word) side? As far as I'm aware, Newsnight broadcasting brief glimpses of the cartoons (and obfuscating them too!) does not constitute anything illegal. On the other hand, some of the protestors that were photographed and filmed in London during the past few days have been breaking the law, ie racial hatred, inciting violence, etc...

We could argue that one group was acting immorally, whereas the other was acting illegally. But why have there have been no arrests?

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Well why not wait and see IF there are any?And AS I did point out there are those muslims who are just as mystified as we are about the fuss.

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The 'suicide bomber' has apologised link
:tu:

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Translation:

Oh bugger I might get arrested because of that.
And if I do I'll get a severe kicking in jail.
I suppose I better apologise instead of gloating and saying I'd do it again.

Not that I'm the cynical type at all.

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perhaps his parents threatened to cut off his.... pocket money!

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I dont care about his appology (although deserved) - he should be arrested and charged.

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he needs to pay the price for his actions, some community service picking up litter at the least.

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OK the only resident liberal is outa here.

:tiptoe:

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It 'sounds' like a genuine apology - perhaps he had second thoughts after he'd heard the criticism of his actions.

Good for him, anyway.

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but no explanation of why he did it? was he high on something at the time or just stupid? I'm still puzzled why.

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hear hear :tu:

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I wouldn't have thought there was any need for a reason as to why he did it - it could be any number of things. He could have been swept up in the 'emotion' of it all (for want of a better word), or he actually be a radical extremist (although I doubt that due to the fact that he has apologised). It might just be that, yep, he's a bit of a numpty.

Having said all of that, I think it takes some guts to admit that you might have acted somewhat foolishly, so fair play to him. Doesn't necessarily make what he did right, but at least he's gone some way to make amends.

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I think that his parents and temple elders had seen him on telly and when he got back home from London he got the biggest b*llocking of his life and was ordered to issue that apology :D

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Don't. We need all the level heads we can get on this one.

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Correct me if i'm wrong, if you walked into a bank with a fake gun you would get 5yrs+ in jail.
If you strap a fake bomb to yourself and stand chanting outide an Embassy, you get slapped wrists. :confused:

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We know why. He even says so (i.e. offended by the cartoons.) I suppose he was probably also caught up in his local protests.

I can understand why he did it - and I'm glad to see he appears to have realised just how wrong he was. Hopefully other 'extremists' will see his example and realise that they too have been reckless in the protests.

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We don't know yet if his apology has bought him anything...

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I hope he is charged and his apology is taken into account in his sentencing if found guilty.

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I actually think the CPS would find it quite difficult to bring a case against him. I don't think dressing as a suicide bomber is illegal, and now he's apologised a court would have to be really trying to set an example (something they tend not to do) to proceed.

I'm actually far more concerned about the banner waving idiots who were hiding behind their masks, than one of the few people who openly protested.

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Actually, I can understand why he did it - if visual representation of Muhammed is against the basic principles of Islam, then I understand why so many people are (if you'll pardon the expression) up in arms about it.

Doesn't mean that I agree with the way things turned out over the weekend, but I can understand where some of the tension originated.

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Also, as SWW says, I'd be more inclined to try to track down some of the people who burn the flags and wave the billboards with such aplomb, but have to hide their faces whilst doing so.

At least this guy had the good grace to leave his face for us all to see...

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I'd call it stupidity.....

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Well he DID get a reaction to his outfit - perhaps that's all he wanted.

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You could be right Rammy but, as a result of his stupidity, we all know who he is.

However, I'd be more worried about the people who were there whose identities we don't know - it's very easy to be brave when no-one can tell it's you. On the flip side of that though is the fact that there could well have been people in that crowd who both wanted and had the means to burn down the Danish embassy - unfortunately, because they would have had their faces covered, how are the police supposed to track them?

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I know Muslims are upset by these cartoons, however what this moron did was wrong, did he not realise that it is not even a year ago that many people lost friends and family, that people lost limbs ect, personaly I think he is quite immature and thoughtless, deserving of ridicule more than prison. Muslims want people to respect their religion well it works both ways I am affraid.

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That's what I think, and if true, isn't worth the drippings off my nose.

He hasn't even been given that yet :(

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just as a matter of interest,there were a few hundred on the street and the coppers did nothing.what happens in say twenty years time when there could be thousands of them on the street.
if the coppers can't arrest anyone for fear of starting a riot this countries in a bad way and i honestly fear for what will become the christian minority in this country.

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we'll probably see the guy who dressed up as a suicide bomber in the next edition of celebrity big brother!

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There's someone of dubious charactor that you don't want on the streets.

Do you have the police:

A: Barge in with riot police to arrest them, thus causing the situation to escalate, resulting in wrongful arrests (ie arrests of people who are protesting peacfully) which will send out the wrong message (or rather the message that the extremists want sent out) to the middle east where many Brits are (not just in the forces) and will put them at risk.

B: Gather as much information as possible, such as filming members of the protest breaking the law several times (rather than stopping them after the first) then once a case has been built and the CPS believe that a conviction can be made, quietly arrest the suspect and put them through the legal system.

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Sorry to put a dampner on that idea, but wouldn't apprehending the masked offenders there and then actually mean they get caught? What good would filming do for these people?

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:p:

but I may be laughing on the other side of my face when Max Clifford or some other lowlife (my opinion that) gets hold of the lunatic and offers him the snakes and ladders board into fame

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Keep the peace a whole lot better than trying to arrest them.
With many Imam's on the police's side, the hope will be in someone turning them in for un-islamic behaviour.

After all, what's the point in putting CCTV in petrol stations when robbers can wear masks?

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As a UK citizen I'd feel a LOT safer if these people were prosecuted instead of being allowed to encourage people to kill me.

To record the number plates of people who drive off without paying for petrol.

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Duh! :D

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So the police can fast forward through all the intimidation and physical violence that goes on during an armed robbery and spend a couple of cosy shifts targetting middle class motorists who claim to have had their number plates stolen

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what about the ones wearing scarves over there faces and the ones with there hoods up.
don't tell me the police have got camera's that can see through them.

and whats to say once the police start arresting them,the muslims won't come out on the streets in support of there people and start rioting then.

imho its a case of leave it,make excuses and then when all the fuss dies down forget about it.

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Hmmmm Protestors dressed as suicide bombers etc, :/
People have been shot for carrying a chair leg or some other misinformation about a firearm or bomb as a mistake, all I can say is he was damn lucky he got to apologise.

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I couldn't have put it better myself.

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to me the whole thing reminds me of that addage about the flapping of a butterflies wings in china etc becoming a tidal wave etc - one minute some oik draws a moustache on a poster - next thing - mayhem. dogma incarnate - mostly from people who have not even seen the cartoons anyway

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Apparently the 'suicide bomber' chappy may yet go to jail.......he was out on parole after serving half of a 5 year sentence for drug dealing. :dozey:

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BBC news has just said the suicide bomber-a-like is a convicted drug dealer who was serving the second half of his 5 year sentence out in the community, the condition of which means if he gets in trouble, he's back inside.

If I may appear cynical for a moment, that I think was the reason for his apology.

edit: Grrrr @ Rammy :D

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The suicide bomber has publicly apologised. Hmmm so thats okay then. We should all bid him good day and get on with out lives. But Muslims dont have to forgive and forget, do they?

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It's bloody deja vu all over again! You watch if that ***** Max Clifford gets involved - and he will (comments my own and not the sites as per normal) :mad:

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True.
I haven't kept completel;y up to date with all this tbh, but i'm wondering, with the Muslims waving the threatening banners around, are 'we' scared to upset them too much in case they come and bomb us?:shrug:
Because, like has already been said, i doubt if similar threats and behaviour would be tolerated so patiently in other circumstances.

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indeed. If i decided to take up a poster saying "I hate n"ggers" I wonder how long I would be roaming free :dozey:

I suspect my post won't be roaming free for long either

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I'm pretty sure the local plod would be round to feel yer collar, not as fast as if you were doing 31 in a 30 zone but pretty darned fast.

And thats my point, I went against Combat 18, got death threats made to me from a group with links to the UVF etc. I had my parents house vandalised, several times people tried to assault me in the street....I say attempted cos I'm not sure if they were punching or tickling......I was punching and injuring.
What did I do? I reported someone I knew putting swasticas on a living room window of a hindu family over the road. That person was charged with possesion of litrature with intent to incite racial hatred.

So what exactly are the police and this pathetic excuse of a government and criminal justice system going to do about the threats to ALL our lives made by these idiots?
Is it going to take another bombing with innocent lives lost before we get tough, or are we never gpoing to get tough, and why do I say get tough, it isnt tough its the law.
For those that dont like it, please immediatly make your way to the nearest air/sea port and by a single to elsewhere. Thankyou very much.

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Sorry, I was referring to the ones inside the petrol station not on the forecourt.
Likewise with cameras in banks etc.

Russ, do you really believe that if the police had started arresting people there and then, it would have been all calm and happy and the rest of the world would have been fine with it?

Surely you can see it's much better to obtain as much evidence as possible (better to catch someone breaking the law than prevent them doing it and leaving them free to break it when the police aren't around) and make arrests at a later date, each one leading to more (such as with the scarf wearing ones).


What interested me was one plackard mentioned 3/11, now is that the 11th March, or is that the 3rd November?

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Indeed. the beloved BBC (of which a different thread is on about the licence) ran a program about "racisim -is it on the increase?" and for a backdrop picture showed a picture of a mosque. Now this is wrong to me! How dare they think its all a sort of valve coming from the 'white mans/western' way?!!! Surely these things are applicable to any group atttempting to be the aggresor? :mad:

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Because a lot of crime goes on whilst people are queuing (pick-pocketing, looking over shoulders to memorise people's account details) and let's be honest, if someone is going to try to cause as little commotion as possible, they are hardly likely to wait in the queue wearing a Saddam mask are they? A lot of the time they look like normal people who hand over a note saying "I have a gun blah blah...put money in the bag blah..."

If they'd brought in enough officers then a good example would have been set. As it stands now all the protestors (some of whom want to kill you too btw) who wore disguises are safe in the knowledge they can do this again and get away with inciting murder as long as they remember to bring a good scarf

...thereby giving people plenty of time to go to ground.

No idea. Perhaps what you thought was a 3 was actually a 9.

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I agree it's very much blamed on white/western people for being racist when actually it is the other races that can be as bad/worse.

I think though that with them being the minority in the UK they play on that, they know racism towards them won't be tolerated, so a few Muslims go and do this. I wonder why people have this view on them...:dozey:

It's kinda like saying 'don't assume we'll all murder you, but our ethnic group will threaten you will bombings and wonder why you're racist towards us'

I feel for the majority of muslims that will now be tarred with that brush.
I think i'm possibly a bit racist, because at train stations or wherever since the 7/7 bombing it's crossed my mind when i've seen a Muslim with a large bag. I know that's very shallow minded to think, but like i say it only crossed my mind.
Still, i bet i'm not the only one.

Though i do think those people with the banners should simply have been sent out of our country. Imagine going anywhere in the world and threatening them with bombings over some cartoons? Wouldn't happen.
But i'm pretty sure i haven't said anything that hasn't already been said,

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True enough. The alternative could have been 7 rounds of 9mm ammo.

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they should have referred him to the courts of the land that uphold all our 'rights' here and promptly given him a community service order (suspended) of 2 or 3 nano-seconds :dozey:

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As unfair as it seems, I think we should forget about what has happened up to now and only punish people from this moment.

We need to get this all under control before we start arresting people, the last thing we need is photos of muslims being arrested for protesting because the line between violent and peaceful protest will not be seen by some and inflame them more.

I do think they should have been arrested, I do think this has been a over-reaction and I do think the cartoons were insulting and unjustifyed.

People died today and we need to stop things getting worse

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It's entirely possible that he'll end up doing the rest of his time for the drugs offence because of it.

That's the mostly likely route for him doing (more) time.

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And have the riots that other countries have seen, with the global reprocussions too?
Personally I'd rather arrests were made without people getting injured.

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And I wonder how many will be arrested though? Most of the people I saw with offensive banners had their identities nicely hidden.

It's just the injustice of it all - the threat of violence from the Muslim extremists seem to have ensured that most of them will get away with it. Police can take as many photos as they want but I doubt any of the protestors will have smiled for the camera.

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I know, it is infuriating to have the police stand by and not try and stop it happening, but the more it happened the more evidence the police obtained.
I'll be shouting and screaming if nothing comes of it, believe me, but I think considering how hot muslim blood apparently can flow, it was the most sensible course of action.

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Exactly - it seems they can get away with more because of who they are.

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you silly silly woman

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I keep hearing that the majority of Muslims are peaceful and tolerant and whilst it maybe true that many are helping the police and intelligence services, I think it would not harm relations between all faiths and races if the majority of these peaceful and tolerant people proved it. Maybe they could hold a rally or march, if nothing else it would show the world that we are a united country and that the extremists and terrorists had no support here. Sadly though it is probably wishful thinking.

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They haven't got away with it yet.

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Think of this, many in the middle east consider all westerners to be heathen godless islam haters.
Do you feel the urge to put them right?
No of course not, you know that you're not a heathen godless islam hater, so you've never seen the need to go on a march showing it.

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That's why I said 'seems'.

Let's just see how many people are prosecuted for what happened that day. There were a lot of them, the police supposedly have evidence, it'll be interesting I think.

There's good programme on channel 5 right now by the way...

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This is true but people are worried, all I am saying is maybe there is more they could do to relieve the tensions, the chances are this whole thing will fizzle out, until the next time.

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MMMM Drug Dealer, dont they have the death sentence for that over there :D

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Alas I'm working nights so can't watch telly :(

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As I said earlier Islam is supremist religion littered with double standards and contradiction.

I mean, god forbid we should have cartoons about mohammad, but it's quite acceptable for the Arab world to produce anti-semitic cartoons such as in the attached link.

http://www.honestreporting.com/artic...e_Cartoons.asp

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This is getting beyond the pale, now...

So Austria is being targetted for no other reason than its in the same continent as Denmark? Something has to be done about these protests before that mentality spreads to outside Iran.

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And also from that same article...

I'm just wondering how long it would be before Muslim police start refusing to engage the protesters...

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The argument here is regarding the characterisation of the prophet Muhammed. The link you mention shows pictures characterising people/a race, so its slightly different.

Like I said in earlier posts I dont agree in the manner in which the violent/extreme protesters have been going about their business and in the UK they have most definately been the minority.

If the cartoons had depicted normal muslims (i.e not the prophet) as terrorists there would have been nothing like we've witnessed so far. I am a muslim and i was offended by the pictures, displaying my anger through the medium of petitions. If those cartoons were showing a group of arabs in the middle east carrying bombs under their turbans I would have laughed it off. This is why I see the accusation of double standards does not wash well.

I have yet to see any cartoons by mainstream muslim artists/publications depicting prophets including Jesus in an offensive manner.

By the way every mainstream muslim spokesperson (representing muslim communities in the UK) thats appeared on breakfast news programmes, heaven and earth show on sunday, the radio and the press has disagreed with the violence seen at demonstrations and dissaproved at the placards on display, asking the police to take appropriate action against the perpertrators. Even Hizbut Tahir (sp) a rather extreme group, and not representative of the magority of muslims in the UK today said it was inappropriate for that guy to turn up looking liek a suicide bomber and that they distance themselves from such acts.

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We've had years of comedians making fun of Jesus. Recently Ricky Gervais had a dig at God on his stand-up show. Even some people on this site enjoy getting offensive about Christianity.

What do we do about it? Nothing - we put up with it and pity the individual.

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'Bomb' Protester has now been arrested:-

http://www.sky.com/skynews/article/0...503868,00.html

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I think it is a point that has to be made however, those pictures are quite sicking and downplaying the holocaust to deeply offensive

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Yep ... and so were counter demonstrators arrested at the time of the protests !!

:rolleyes:

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http://www.guardian.co.uk/cartoonpro...703925,00.html

Yep and purposely running cartoons satirising it is asking for trouble. (Well asking for more trouble)

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Yeah, but that wasn't the most intelligent thing that they could have done, was it? There's what basically amounts to a riot going on, so they hand out copies of the very pictures that have caused it in the first place.

I'm not sure that they should have been arrested, but they definitely deserve a slap around the back of the head for being morons.

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I agree 100% and it is quite obvious what they were up to, but I'll bet these people get prosecuted more robustly than any protestors.

IMO this country and its legislators are running scared of muslims for fear of retaliation. :erm:

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What about Dogma, the movie? Sure there were some murmurings from catholics, but not violent protests. Noone wanted anyone beheaded. Noone dressed up as suicide bombers. Noone felt the need to burn anything down. Noone felt the need to attack countries that had nothing to do with the movie. Noone used their free speech to condemn, err, free speech.

And how about this? http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/sh...&postcount=391

Noone's reported it. No death threats (that I know of) to Gareth, and I very much doubt he ever will. Christians, among other people are laughing with it.

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Not that Iran needs much excuse... Notice how they decide to retailiate against Jews, and not Christians, who make up 95% of Denmark (excluding the 3% Catholics).

Still, I bet no Jews will be asking for people to be beheaded, commiting arson, etc.

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yeah I'm happy with this result.

http://www.itn.co.uk/news/index_1751622.html

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Different in your eyes

It shows the defacing of the Star of David which is a religious symbol.

Which I'm sure is very offensive to Jews

Indeed , well said. :tu:

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So by your logic, its worse to insult once person, who is dead, than to insult 14 million (Jewish) or 2 billion (Christian) live people?

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From the Guardian letters pages:

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Clearly two wrongs DO make a right - for them, anyway.

It's no wonder they're still bitching about the Crusades. I'm beginning to think that the words 'forgive' and 'forget' don't appear in the Koran or Hadith or any language spoken by Muslims.

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What they were doing was not illegal. According to the Muslims protester(s) that's a perfectly adequate excuse for their behaviour...

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Now THAT is the attitude that should be part of ALL Muslim's approach to life in the 21st century.

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Works both ways though... printing satirical cartoons of religious figures is not illegal in Denmark, France, the UK, etc...

For the record, I'd argue that inciting violence and racial hatred is illegal.

Also, for the record, defacing websites is illegal, but that's not stopping some people - http://www.zone-h.org/en/news/read/id=205987/ I just wish they'd stop the constant port scanning I'm seeing too :rolleyes:

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This just gets sillier, now Sadam Hussain is elevated to the same level as Muhammad!
That's Islamic extremism for you - it's now managed to get people to fear it enough to even avoid perceived confrontation.

How much further will we go to appease these nutters?

It is time to stand up to them and let it be know that we will NOT be dominated by Islam, and NEVER by force.

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Actually, I'd say that there would be a fairly good case for inciting racial violence. As I said, handing out the very documents that were the root cause of the trouble in the first place was hardly the most intelligent thing to do.

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Well, that does say that part of the reason is because it may offend Muslims - it is rather convenient to ignore the bit about putting tourists off though, isn't it?

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Since I imagine the ONLY reason it would put off tourists could possibly the threat of a reaction from Islamic extremists, then I think that was fair enough.

After all, a tourist could simply avoid the exhibition...

My main point was that Sadam is not a person venerated by Muslims, so what's the problem. Anyone that doth protest about it can only be considered a Sadam sympathiser.

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It'd probably put me off the exhibition because I don't particularly want to gawp at his ugly fizzog, but that's just me...

What you'll probably find is that the people who are in charge of the exhibition have jumped on the bandwagon somewhat - completely pointless IMO, seeing as Saddam isn't venerated in general. However, I wouldn't see this as anyone 'bowing down to Islam' - more a misguided attempt to appease people :shrug:

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To my mind this is just symptomatic of the fear all westerners are feeling about reprisals from these nutters, instead of stamping down hard on them and telling them this is Europe and we do not share or kowtow to extremist Islamic values. :(

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I saw on sky news earlier, they said while dealing he was funding the radical british muslim organisation, guess he is still a radical then, I guess he isnt really that sorry except he has returned to jail, and I guess he wore the mocked up bomb jacket to do more than stir sensetive memories for the victims families of the july events.

Funny the area he lives aswell, as thats one of the places thats been seen for vans full of arms being offloaded and distributed, drugs is rife and little is done to stop any of it.

Its rather well known the radical mulsim youth is selling drugs in a big way, they see it as a triple victory, 1 they get western money, two they mess up western life, and finally they wound the western lifestyle in preparation for the global domination cause. This is also the attitude of some of if not all the the poppy farms sending millions of tonnes of heroin here anually from afghanistan.

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Because they're appeasing Muslims - i.e. people of Islam.

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Have you stopped to think that they could have been proving a point?

After all, they were arrested, the muslims werent. Does that not show you that there is a biased view on things in the met? does it not prove that th ebig bad whiteman is not allowed to speak his mind in case he might upset someone of a differeing sexuality, nationality, religion, house number, car driver, left or right hander?

there is nothing to describe both the muslim reaction to the cartoons and the subsequent violence and the complete inaction of the police to uphold the law of the nation. Its pathetic, its outrageous, its distgusting.

Its no wonder there is so much hatred in the world, I am beginning to suspect that the muslim world is beginning to lose control over its extremists. If that happens then world war 3 will be in the middle east.

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i watched newsnight last night,and they had some muslim extremist prat on there spouting his excuses for all the violence thats been happening across europe these last few days and about how the muslims are suppresed in european countries.
at one point he let it slip that britain belonged to allah then he realised what he had said and corrected himself.
well if thats muslims for you i'm voting BNP from now on,because i'm coming to the conclusions that muslims speak with forked tongue and maybe nick griffin is right the muslim extremists do want britain as an islamic state,especially after watching this prat on the bbc last night.

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'Muslims speak with forked tongue'? Well, how that's an acceptable phrase in todays world. I'll never know.

If we're going to make such sweeping generalisations, why don't we tar all white Christians as football hooligans? Sounds stupid, but it's the same thing.

Anyway, to a Christian, Britain would technically belong to God, seeing as God created everything - what's to say that this guy on the TV doeasn't have the same opinion, just substituting 'Allah' for 'God' :shrug:

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But at least the MAJORITY of the muslims in this country are not demonstrating or rioting.There were very few of them involved in both demonstrations last week in proportion to those that STAYED HOME and are just as p*ssed by the placards as you are, because the whole thing has made people like you tar and feather all the rest of the muslims in this country because of the actions of a few.The rest of the world is not my concern just this one United Kingdom and if we can keep it calm we can make sure that no one gets any more hurt than they have already been.As to what happens in the Middle East the sooner we find alternative forms of energy to oil the better for the world.

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If anybody has that interview available on a video file download i'd like to see it.

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so what would you do nugget,would you appease them these muslim extremists.
you seem to be good at pulling other people down,i've put my beliefs on show for all to see.how about you telling us what you'd do to rid the country of the muslim extremist because i'll tell you this whil'st there's people like you around they aint gonna go away.
oh and can't you see if these guy's get there way there won't be a christian britain anymore.