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Xaccers 17-09-2005 15:14

Re: Trafalgar Square's fourth plinth
 
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Originally Posted by Graham
That's a matter of opinion...



Ah, imitation, the sincerest form of flattery...! :rofl:

That's it! I've had enough of your dodging of questions Graham!
I'm forced to call you a politician! :P

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Originally Posted by Graham
"Prejudice. Bias: a partiality that prevents objective consideration of an issue or situation"

How many more examples do you want?

Are they objective or unbiased opinions? Hardly.

Have you looked at those pictures of the Rodin Sculpture I posted a few messages back? Is she beautiful? Not any more! Is she attractive? Nope, she's an old woman.

Should Rodin not have sculpted her? Should the piece not be shown? Should it be shut away because it's not "beautiful"...???

Take off those blinkers and open your mind a little.

Ah, so are you saying Ramrod is prejudice against ugly things?

Ramrod 17-09-2005 16:19

Re: Trafalgar Square's fourth plinth
 
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Originally Posted by Graham

Ah, imitation, the sincerest form of flattery...! :rofl:

What are you on about? :confused:



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"Prejudice. Bias: a partiality that prevents objective consideration of an issue or situation
Thats a definition......not an example of my prejudice



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Originally Posted by Ramrod
"Why can't we follow other European cities and have sculptures of beautiful things/people.........a heavily pregnant armless woman falls outside that description for most of us"

"he still looks heroic and dashing.......she just looks fat, unnatractive and odd....."

"I disapprove because she is unattractive."

"Public works of art should be uplifting, majestic, grand or at he very least, just beautiful..........."

I stand by all of those statements. I have no problem with her statue existing, I think she is a beautiful person, the statue isn't beautiful.
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Originally Posted by graham
Are they objective or unbiased opinions? Hardly.

They are statements of fact.--She looks odd because she has no arms and shortened legs.............she looks ugly because the artist did a cr*p job of her face and the posing of her figure, she looks fat because she is pregnant and has probably put on extra body fat due to that. Exactly what have I said ther that is biased, incorrect or prejudiced?

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Originally Posted by graham
Have you looked at those pictures of the Rodin Sculpture I posted a few messages back? Is she beautiful? Not any more! Is she attractive? Nope, she's an old woman.

Should Rodin not have sculpted her? Should the piece not be shown? Should it be shut away because it's not "beautiful"...???

So you can say that someone isn't beautiful but I can't? wtf?? I never said the Lapper statue shouldn't have been sculpted or should be shut away-quite the opposite in fact.....I only said that in my opinion Trafalguar Square isn't the place for displaying it!

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Originally Posted by graham
Take off those blinkers and open your mind a little.

I think you are the one with the blinkers.........you are making massive assumptions about what I am saying!

Graham 17-09-2005 23:34

Re: Trafalgar Square's fourth plinth
 
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Originally Posted by Xaccers
That's it! I've had enough of your dodging of questions Graham! I'm forced to call you a politician! :P

Where's that Report Post button...?! I'm not going to stand, well, sit, here and be insulted like that...!!! ;)

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Originally Posted by Graham
"Prejudice. Bias: a partiality that prevents objective consideration of an issue or situation"

Ah, so are you saying Ramrod is prejudice against ugly things?
Now just *who* was calling *whom* a politician...?! :disturbd:
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Originally Posted by Ramrod
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Originally Posted by Graham
Ah, imitation, the sincerest form of flattery...! :rofl:

What are you on about? :confused:

Think about the phrase "you said X in public, I'm answering in public", then think about who has posted messages using it... :rofl:

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"Prejudice. Bias: a partiality that prevents objective consideration of an issue or situation
Thats a definition......not an example of my prejudice
Yes, I know. The message segments I cited were the *examples*...! :rolleyes:

<Big snip>

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you are making massive assumptions about what I am saying!
Ramrod, I'm not going to play any more because otherwise people are going to start reporting these messages.

You have said a whole bunch of things, now you are trying to backtrack or revise them. If you didn't mean them, you shouldn't have said them in the first place or, at the very least, been *much* more careful with your phrasing.

:walk:

Jon M 17-09-2005 23:39

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I'm sick of this tit for tat oneupmanship, cut it out please.

Belittling each others opinions is out of order.
If you disagree with someone, fair enough, but there is no need for this sort of personal vendetta.

Ramrod 18-09-2005 00:17

Re: Trafalgar Square's fourth plinth
 
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Originally Posted by Graham
Ramrod, I'm not going to play any more because otherwise people are going to start reporting these messages.

You have said a whole bunch of things, now you are trying to backtrack or revise them. If you didn't mean them, you shouldn't have said them in the first place or, at the very least, been *much* more careful with your phrasing.

:walk:

I am not backtracking on anything.........I meant everything I posted. I was careful with my posting.....you just assumed way too much. It seems you imagined meanings between the lines. :shrug:
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If you disagree with someone, fair enough, but there is no need for this sort of personal vendetta.
This isn't a personal vendetta (on my part at least), I merely disagree with Graham on many and varied topics :D
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Anyhoo........we're off to Eurodisney so you will have to bicker amongst yourselves till I get back on Thursday and the Graham and Rammy show can resume.......(If I can be bothered to argue anymore on this thread) :D :waving:

Maggy 18-09-2005 15:07

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This thread is dead.You and Graham killed it. ;) :p:

BBKing 18-09-2005 15:45

Re: Trafalgar Square's fourth plinth
 
Who here has actually gone to Trafalgar Square to look at it? Until I do, I won't be making up my mind.

Chimaera 18-09-2005 16:12

Re: Trafalgar Square's fourth plinth
 
We might be going soon - if we do I'll take some pics and post them here.

ScaredWebWarrior 18-09-2005 16:44

Re: Trafalgar Square's fourth plinth
 
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Originally Posted by Chimaera
We might be going soon - if we do I'll take some pics and post them here.

I'm looking forward to getting a chance this week, as I start commuting to London as of tomorrow :)

Shaun 18-09-2005 17:55

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I'm there on Tuesday and if I get finished early I may take a wander down there while I wait for my train.

Russ 18-09-2005 17:56

Re: Trafalgar Square's fourth plinth
 
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Originally Posted by Chimaera
We might be going soon - if we do I'll take some pics and post them here.

Make sure they're cleared by the team first ;) :D

Jules 18-09-2005 20:11

Re: Trafalgar Square's fourth plinth
 
I am hoping to dahn sarf later this year so I may just go have a look :tu:

Ramrod 18-10-2005 14:04

Re: Trafalgar Square's fourth plinth
 
Just a little addendum to the story, from todays Times:

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The statue of a nude and heavily pregnant armless woman has sat proudly in Trafalgar Square for a month . . . complete with a spelling mistake. The word †œresilienceÃÆšÂ¢ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ã‚¬Ã‚à ‚ appeared as †œresilianceÃÆšÂ¢ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ã‚¬Ã‚à ‚ on a plaque for Marc Quinnââ‚ÆšÂ¬ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¾Ã‚¢s 13-tonne, 3.5m sculpture, Alison Lapper Pregnant. The plaque is being replaced.
:rofl: :D

Maggy 18-10-2005 14:05

Re: Trafalgar Square's fourth plinth
 
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Originally Posted by Ramrod
Just a little addendum to the story, from todays Times:

:rofl: :D

Oh don't get me started about spellings... :(

Ramrod 18-10-2005 15:08

Re: Trafalgar Square's fourth plinth
 
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Originally Posted by Incognitas
Oh don't get me started about spellings... :(

My spelling is appalling but English isn't my first language :D

Graham 19-10-2005 02:13

Re: Trafalgar Square's fourth plinth
 
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Originally Posted by Incognitas
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Originally Posted by Ramrod
Just a little addendum to the story, from todays Times:

:rofl: :D

Oh don't get me started about spellings... :(

In related news, did you see the story about the Statue of Nelson in Portsmouth that was relocated...?!

http://www.portsmouth.co.uk/ViewArti...icleID=1222921

:rolleyes: :banghead:

Maggy 19-10-2005 13:24

Re: Trafalgar Square's fourth plinth
 
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Originally Posted by Graham
In related news, did you see the story about the Statue of Nelson in Portsmouth that was relocated...?!

http://www.portsmouth.co.uk/ViewArti...icleID=1222921

:rolleyes: :banghead:


Don't get me started on the glory that is Portsmouth Council.I'm glad I no longer live in that fair city, proud as I am of it's history.They were morons more than thirty years ago and they are no better now... :( Particularily in the planning department. :mad:

Mind there are times when I despair about Gosport council too....I sometimes think I'd like to move to Scummerland. :disturbd:

Nugget 19-10-2005 13:38

Re: Trafalgar Square's fourth plinth
 
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Originally Posted by Ramrod
My spelling is appalling but English isn't my first language :D

By the look of it, there's some on here who don't even have English as their fourth language :D


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