Re: PVR for NTL
 

Erm... Read your own news stories, Stuart!

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/article/...tas-mpeg-4-pvr

Re: PVR for NTL
 

:LOL:

Classic :disturbd: :angel:

Re: PVR for NTL
 

OK. They have announced a year. However both Telewest and Sky have announced trials.

Re: PVR for NTL
 

Aug 2006 has been bandied around - NOT A DEFINITE DATE THOUGH. SO DO NOT QUOTE ME.

Re: PVR for NTL
 

That's great. Now could you tell me when I'm going to get it?

It you live in a Telewest area, they're more than willing to give you a projected four-week window. Why can't NTL do the same?

Why haven't there been any Bromley areas done yet?

And who has rolled out more, as a percentage of their network? Who is likely to finish first?

Re: PVR for NTL
 

Thats the spirit, now you are leaving ntl the rumours come out, more please =)

Re: PVR for NTL
 

Whatever happened to "4th Quarter 2005" :rolleyes::confused:

Re: PVR for NTL
 

Haha, if you can't take your own advice, don't give it.

Re: PVR for NTL
 

Eh? :confused:

Can you elaborate for those of us who are actually on planet earth?

Re: PVR for NTL
 

How you can complain or pull anyone about your quotes is beyond me.

There should be a disclaimer by your quotes that says.

Any posts by me Garyparson might could or has been edited to my liking. I might have changed your post to make you look like a lier. therefor i could also be lying. Therefor my quotes should be taken with a pinch of salt ?


For evidence please look HERE

Sorry but any quote you make i take with a pinch of salt as i can never be sure you are not lieing

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You mean dimension never mind planet :LOL:

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Re: PVR for NTL
 

Re: PVR for NTL
 

Sometime in 2006 - probably Q2. I can't be more specific than that.

Probably because whenever dates are supplied and they change (which they are very likely to do given the nature of the VoD project), there are massive moans on here and calls to Customer Service.

Because, like with Langley, a software upgrade (amongst other things) is required to get it working. VoD kit was installed in Langley regions first for a variety of reasons.

Don't know, sorry. Telewest are likely to complete rollout first, as their network is smaller and the structure is less complex.

Re: PVR for NTL
 

But surely Telewest are just as susceptible to delays? They are doing exactly the same thing, after all. What is it about the way Telewest are doing things that makes them more confident about getting it done within the four-week target window?

And even if we accept your point, it doesn't stop NTL telling us the order in which franchises are due to go live, does it? Yet they won't even do that.

Why are Telewest willing to communicate with their customers, when NTL are not?

Re: PVR for NTL
 

I don't know, I don't work in PR.

Re: PVR for NTL
 

To correct your post, its a 2 week window Telewest give now and they have been rolling out VoD without any delays and its set for national completion before the year ends, shame about the broadband speed increases.

Re: PVR for NTL
 

Cob Stenham giveth with one hand, and taketh with another.;)

Re: PVR for NTL
 

Spot on. No excuses NTL! Shame on you.

Re: PVR for NTL
 

although it's taken a while the problem with the NTL network is there is the Langley side and the Bromley side plus some stuff from other companies they have bought out and that mess needs to be sorted out before they can roll these things out efficiently

it is coming you just need to show abit of patience

Re: PVR for NTL
 

The 'mess' has existed for years. What steps have ntl taken to sort it out? This topic has been appearing for many, many months now. At one stage, 2H2005 was being quoted to investors as the launch time for PVR. There's still no sign of a target date from ntl, just 'coming soon' statements from various sources. Just how much patience do we need to show?

Re: PVR for NTL
 

I don't think the original PVR plans involved HD or Mpeg4 so that's going to add a lot of extra work and investment to do. As the user end is rented it makes sence to do it in one go (if they charged us £300 for the box I'm sure we'd have one by now and they'd be happy to charge us another £300 for an HD/Mpeg4 version 6 months later ;) ).

They also want to maximise VOD deployment first as it's more of an earner for simular features.

And as for the mess, well it's a very expensive mess to sort and I think without government backing to get fiber to every urban door it won't happen anytime soon. If they'd tried to do it before now I don't think they'd still be in business.

It's a shame we've never had much of an open market in this country, if the government laid/owned the fiber to the door and providers laid there cable to the street nodes then you could shop around a bit. As it is now you can't even move house to a Telewest area (as I'm certain more bad practises from NTL will leak to Telewest then good ones from Telewest going to NTL from the merger :rolleyes: ).

But hey, I've got 10MB and can just download all my TV in HD now instead... or at least 75GB/month. ;)

Re: PVR for NTL
 

Considering SA arn't going to have the PVR hardware ntl have chosen on the market before Q1 2006 then that should tell you that we probably wont hear anything until Q2 2006.

Re: PVR for NTL
 

If they're going to keep delaying shipment to add even more features, they're never going to get it out the door and earn money from it.
There is nothing at all similar between VOD and PVR. VOD is a way of selling chargeable content; PVR is a way for customers to time-shift broadcast content. The miniscule amount of 'highlight' content on VOD is pointless.
It was ntl's choice to merge all these companies and create the mess in the first place. And why should the taxpayer pay for any of it?

That may well be the future, at least until the content providers catch on and start charging for it. All the more reason for ntl to try to make some money before it happens.

Re: PVR for NTL
 

It was the governments choice to carve the country up into tiny cable patches that the cable patch kid Barclay decided to sew together to create an entity with the economy of scale to compete with Sky. If the Govt had decided that there should be one, or two cable suppliers for the UK and implemented the licence sell off on that basis, not one per city we would not be in this mess. Again the govt trying to maximise licence revenue without considering the repercussions.

Ntl+ Pvr, When? And How Much?!!!
 

Read some info lately about Ntl version of Sky+ it looks very good 160gb hard drive, 3 tuners, usb ports, ethernet and multi-room capabilities. But can't seem to find any info on when it's coming out or how much it'll be, fed up of using videos and don't want to buy a dvd recorder because they're all changing soon to new HD dvd's ( plus also read that in a year or so that a new format atomic holographic storage is going to be used 300gb/dvd ) Am impressed with mates Sky+ but looking at the Ntl+ specs would prefer to stay with Ntl, but how long do we have to wait? Can anyone shine any light on the topic?

Re: Ntl+ Pvr, When? And How Much?!!!
 

:welcome:

There is a long thread on the PVR, but i can't seem to find it at the moment :dunce:

however, in summary, anyone who has access to this information will be under a NDA anyway, and those who don't have access to the information will just be speculating...

As soon as ntl release any information to the public, CF will hear about it :)

*moving to cable tv discussion forum*

Re: Ntl+ Pvr, When? And How Much?!!!
 

I tried searching in the Ntl forums for info but could't find any, plus speculation is a good talking point it may even get some wheels turning, hopefully!!!

Re: Ntl+ Pvr, When? And How Much?!!!
 

Doubt it! :D
....and I can't find that bl**dy thread either! :dunce:

Re: Ntl+ Pvr, When? And How Much?!!!
 

because the forum search filter does not search for 3 letter words, unless they are specifically added... PVR appears not to have been...

:wavey: Hi Admins! (hint hint)

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found it... do i win a prize??

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/showthread.php?t=3435

i'll merge this thread into that one now....

Re: [Merged] PVR for NTL
 

That's probably why when I searched again using the word PVR I couldn't even find my own thread.
Will have to remember that for future searches, but will most likely forget and find nothing and start a new thread, so I'll apologise in advance for that now:dunce:

Re: [Merged] PVR for NTL
 

I had a rep around today trying to sell me digital TV (i've already got broadband and telephone). He said the PVR's are being introduced in September 06 and there will be no extra charge, it's basically going to be a free upgrade!!
He also said you'll be able to record two channels at the same time as watching another.

lets hope he's right

p

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Re: [Merged] PVR for NTL
 

Sorry, the sales rep was talking out of his a*se. As sales reps tend to.

Re: [Merged] PVR for NTL
 

So, does that mean we wont be seeing anything by September, or that something should appear before then? ;)


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