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Could someone tell me please what date Octopus send a monthly bill when smart meters are installed, normally I would do a meter reading to get that, my smart meters got installed on the 5th?
Edit I emailed support the bill is now in, its nice to see usage listed daily and says less than £1 usage per day for each fuel for the period from 5th to 29th April, costing just £66.39. |
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Given my meter is way past its EOL (E7 meter from 1989) I'm going to have to replace it.
Getting another analogue meter is looking unlikely now, as no one seems to fit them anymore. So I'm now thinking I may as well do it sooner rather than later, i.e. in the summer. That would mean I could look at moving to Octopus before next winter if I so desire. Having an old E7 meter also hampers any move as some, like Octupus, always quote me E7 prices. |
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I would advise moving to Octopus before getting smart meters installed, because not all smart meters work with octopus properly which would mean you couldn't take advantage of their smart tariffs. |
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Your meter should stay with you as long as you want it....... Stay with what your heart feels is better!! DONT LET THEM WIN PAUL!!!!!!!! |
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I cant easily move to Octopus first as I noted above, they seem incapable of quoting me a single rate because my meter [correctly] shows on the datebase as a dual (E7) meter. So in my case, its easier to swap first, move later. ---------- Post added at 02:12 ---------- Previous post was at 02:10 ---------- Quote:
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The meters Octopus installed for me are Kaifi MA120 for Electricity and EDMI GS-60B for Gas, luckily they have worked perfectly as I got the first bill yesterday. |
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We have had a smart meter for about 2-3 years with little issue apart from when they didn't update my account for the first 6 weeks and kept asking for meter readings.
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Does anyone have an Octopus Home Mini thingamajig? I've signed up for it anyway and gone on a waiting list even if I'm not sure it'll be too useful for me, but I do like my stats and since getting Smart Meters and going on their Tracker I check the daily rates and tomorrows rates constantly.
https://octopus.energy/blog/octopus-home-mini/ |
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So if you're on Agile which only does Electricity can you also stay on the Tracker for your Gas? Flexible Tariff cost £47.19 Tracker Tariff cost £37.66 Agile Tariff cost £35.58 Tracker Tariff cost £37.66 |
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I am already with Octopus Flexible and have today applied to switch over to a duel Tracker account.
Done a quick comparison, probably the 5th or 6th so far this year :D, and decided to give it a go. If prices spike I can always go back to my safe place ... timorous beastie mode ... so here goes. :) Will post when I get my email and then again when I get my switch over date so that anyone considering timescales etc can see the current state of play regarding timings. Add// Immediately received an email with link to accept the terms and conditions. ✔ WOW double WOW ... Fast moving!!! Great news, we've switched your gas to Octopus Tracker! Head to our FAQ's to read more about Tracker and what to expect on your monthly statements. Octopus Tracker Tracker gives you the most transparent energy pricing in the UK. Every day, we update the price of your energy based on an independently published wholesale market price. The unit rate is capped at 100p/kWh for electricity and 30p/kWh for gas (including VAT). Tariff info (all prices include VAT) Reference SILVER-24-04-03 Starts from 12:00 AM, 5th May 2024 Gas Unit price Changes daily Standing charge 27.47p per day Annual usage Gas 9,732 kWh Electricity Unit price 21.02p per kWh Standing charge 49.12p per day Annual usage Electricity 2,688.2 kWh ..... and breath |
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Yes mine was instant also, the Tracker Tariff is really a no brainer for someone on Octopus with Smart Meters, don't worry about Tracker prices I checked the last 2 years and it stays well below the Flexible Tariff. Head over to https://www.octopriceuk.app/tracker and if you enter your meter info(it's nothing to worry about) you get the API info from your Octopus account, you can then track the prices for Gas and Electricity for tomorrow as it displays a day in advance eventually, there are also other wizz things you can track in it's hamburger menu top right. |
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I'm definitely in impatient mode. :D |
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It's a shame Octopus Compare doesn't support Gas readings, but that other site does which I likely use more. You should go to the link I posted on 4th May regarding signing up for an Octopus Home Mini thingamajig that may come in handy for seeing the data alot quicker. |
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I signed up for an Octopus mini yesterday. I only use gas for our central heating with a couple of bowls of hot water a day for washing up. So the 1/2 hour electric monitors have always come in handy.
I used to try to do the saving sessions but during the times they were active there was hardly any electricity being used so gave it up as being a frustrating waste of time for us. |
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Don't use the bath and we have an electric shower. :D
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Mine will be 20.57 for electricity and 4.16 for gas. I'm not really checking seriously until I have a full week/months figure, although the prices vary day by day it's the overall figures that count.
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Another missive direct from Scottish Power:
"We're obligated by the government to install smart meters in our customers' homes. The smart meter rollout in the UK has been designed to build a foundation for a smarter, more environmentally friendly energy system that will benefit us all, now and in the future. As part of this nationwide effort, all energy suppliers are obligated by the Government to install smart meters in their customers' homes. Therefore, please book a smart meter installation appointment as soon as possible." |
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"The installation programme of smart meters, launched by the Government in 2011, is hugely over budget and behind schedule.
Ofgem has said it is concerned about the 'slow progress of installations for smart prepayment meters, and the potential impact of that on vulnerable households'. Late last year, six companies were fined a combined £10.8 million for missing the regulator's 2022 targets." ---------- Post added at 14:26 ---------- Previous post was at 13:03 ---------- Another email from Scottish Power "How can a smart meter help me save money? As highlighted by the Energy Saving Trust*: "A smart meter supports you with reducing your energy consumption. When you can see and understand how you're using energy, it helps you manage that. That means lower bills for you and a lower carbon footprint too." Will my readings and bills be accurate? Not only does a smart meter monitor your energy use but it also provides us with accurate automatic meter readings2 and, if you choose to have an In-Home Display (IHD), you can see your usage in pounds and pence. Accurate readings mean that you can avoid paying for more energy than you use. What else does a smart meter give me access to? The technology provided by a smart meter helps you consider a wider range of energy tariffs and tools. When you become a ScottishPower smart customer you'll be able to access Energy Insights , our handy energy monitoring tool. With Energy Insights you can track your energy habits to pinpoint changes that could help you save energy. Are smart meters safe? The smart meters used in Britain have passed strict safety testing and are covered by UK and EU product safety legislation† . Your energy supplier also receives alerts about your smart meter functionality, when it's connected to the network, meaning any potential issues can be identified quickly. For more details, please visit the Smart Energy GB website . Smart meter technology can also be helpful in power cut situations - making it easier to identify outages and get them sorted. Can I switch suppliers? Yes. If you have a smart meter, you can switch energy supplier and tariff in exactly the same way that anyone with a traditional meter can." |
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Just popped in to Tesco on way home from work to get a free Caramel Custard Donut from Greggs courtesy of OctoPlus, I could get used to these freebies now I have a Greggs in my Tesco Extra I always shop at!
Getting smart meters and going on the Tracker Tariff is probably one of the financially best things I've done. |
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My latest calculations indicate that if i move to Agile i will save £307.00 year. For context we use a lot of electric for various reason one of which is my EV. However the EV is saving me £130 a month over the diesel car i was using for work. We have a very efficient boiler which uses very little gas. So it does look like i will be moving to Agile. |
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No and most dont realise what they will be incurring once they allow this in thier house!!
Im trying to help Paul avoid this..... I hope he stays with his meter!!!!! |
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Also in the real world if your meter is super old and needs replaced then it needs replaced. |
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Well I hope works out OK for ya buddy :)
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Next door is having yet another visit to try to make their smart meters actually send out readings.
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I wonder whats stopping it from doing so??
Have ya tried a different meter? (Im assuming they have) |
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I've been away for a week and kept track of my Electricity and Gas usage via the Octopus App. My Electricity daily usage has been around 2kWh and my Gas around 5kWh(this was left on to heat the hot water twice a day). I have an old boiler so maybe I should turn off my hot water and use zero gas when away although it's only costing me 21p a day in Gas usage.
How does this compare to other people's usage when they're away from home for a week? Obviously my Electricity must be from my fridge freezer and when the boiler trips on to heat the hot water mainly. |
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It's the Electricity usage I'm more interested in comparing when people are away from home for a week, but I can't do anything about that as obviously the freezer stays on. |
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If I stay in this house past the decade I will have to get a new boiler fitted as I don't want a heat pump and may not have room for one. |
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During the summer I adjust by boiler to only heat water once in the morning (although another time may be best for you).
My tank keeps it warm enough for the rest of the day provided we don't do a lot of washing or bathing. But if you are away for a week you may as well turn the whole thing off. |
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I've just calculated my weekly Gas meter £ usage and it's only around £1.40 so I may as well just leave it on as I'm not sure how much Gas would get used to heat the whole tank up from cold on return. |
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Just had the mail confirming my smart mini is on its way. :)
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You could not make this up. :rolleyes:
Got an email the other week ; https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...chmentid=31001 So I logged in today to book one in the summer, I got this ; https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...chmentid=31002 What a bunch of muppets. :dunce: |
Very good.. You can keep your meter mate :)
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Another question does your IHD display the wrong Tariff information as mine does? Luckily my Octopus app and last bill appears to show the correct Tariff pricing. |
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Booked my install for 21st June. No doubt will be asking here what tariff I should be using too once they’re installed
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That was enough for me, I've set in motion a move to Octopus. I asked them about E7 and they can switch me to the flat rate (none E7) on my meter once its switched, they just dont have that option on the sign up process. Once moved, I'll look at getting them to install a new meter instead, then I should be able to think about moving to the tracker tariff. |
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I'm with Utilita for gas and electric - never had any trouble. It's a lot less hassle than taking a meter reading.
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I haven't the faintest idea. TBH, I've been with so many providers I've given up caring. I stick with them because they're reliable.
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You could save alot of money by switching to Octopus and going on their tracker Tariff or you may learn that yours is a better deal, you don't even have to speak to a human to swap, the new provider does it all automatically when you request a switch and any credit funds go with it. At the moment(today) I'm saving 23% on Gas and 16% on Electricity being on the Tracker and these are on the high end of the ever changing prices, they're often alot lower. |
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I have reluctantly signed up for a smart metre. Only because I think this could save money.
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How is your device will it be useful and does it replace your IHD? |
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I have people in the house all day so my reckoning is I will pay less if I'm on agile. At least if the current trends continue. It won't be difficult to run the dishwasher at night. |
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I had my first full month Tracker bill today, I saved around £11 over SVT, the daily Tracker rates are a little higher this month for some reason but it's still a saving. I didn't have to do the maths the Octoprice site works that out for you.
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Well, my move to Octopus went through ok, in the end.
Lots of fun last week because they created two accounts on my address. Trying to get them to fix that was ... painful. I seem to be on something called "Flexible Octopus" atm. It doesnt mention Economy 7 at all, so that may be fixed already. Attempted a Smart Meter booking, but its unclear if it worked, as they dont list anything in my account. |
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Flexible Octopus is the normal Tariff I was on before switching to the Tracker. Smart meters installed yet? |
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Took me 5 emails and 3 weeks to sort out (I was in North Cyprus for half the time, so I wasn’t going to call them, and once you’ve started an email chain, it’s better, imho, to carry on that route for consistency and continuity) - seems resolved now. |
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They should have sent a confirmation email for the booking. |
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3 vans turned into 4 as various techs tried to get yet another smart meter to communicate next door. No luck again.
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You would think they would install the meter ABOVE THE ROOF but they dont seem start enough to realise something is going on!!
Do cell phones work inside thier house?? |
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Not a bad rate yesterday it was 15.14 compared to 25.26 for the flexible tariff in my area, some people on the Agile Tariff got free Electricity too, but Agile isn't suitable for my usage times. |
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How long did it take to turn up and who delivers it incase I'm not home? |
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My compare app has been less than helpful with dates disappearing and not tying in with my bill dates. Wish there was a Gas Compare equivalent app but seeing evidence of a £16+ saving this month on electricity alone means I will stick with the Tracker option. Like you Agile isn't suitable for us. All in all I will just pay the bills as normal keeping an eye on the average trend in prices, and, as long as I am saving something over the standard rates, I will be happy. |
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Long answer. :D ...... I have been trying to use the octoprice site but it would never accept that the API/my account existed. I did have a couple of glitches with a couple of weeks readings at the new rate disappearing but when I phoned it was soon sorted out and the correct figures for my period on Tracker were used when my bill was generated. Phoned again yesterday after yet a another fruitless attempt to register and a nice lady octopus found that (despite my account now being sorted) I still had a marker on my account and she wondered whether this was the cause of my problem ..so...fingers crossed with the marker on my account having now been removed it be recognised by octoprice. Up date. Just tried again and I now have Octoprice. :) I have left my screed in place in case it throws a light on may be happening if any one else is having a similar problem. |
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Strange that your API worked with the Octopus Compare app, or maybe you don't have to paste in the API link as I can't remember? |
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Another good piece of info is to click on 'Data Checker' this shows you what data has been sent to Octopus, usually my Gas data is a little behind the Electricity data being sent. Try not to worry too much if you see data missing but it may be a problem. My savings since I went on the Tracker on April 11th are £16.02 for Electricity and £13.20 for Gas compared to their Flexible Tariff. |
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