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That has got to be a pretend organisation

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LATEST: No surprise: Russian Parliament approves Putin’s use of armed forces abroad.

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NATO’s Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg just Now: “We have over 100 jets on high alert”

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I sort of think it makes sense to hold something back though to try and get him to stop going further.

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Liz Truss takes swift retribution on Putin – UK to unleash might of £24TN army of nations

The Foreign Secretary outlined "coordinated escalatory sanctions" alongside the other members of the G7. France, Germany, Italy, Japan, Canada, the US and the UK make up the group and have a combined GDP of £24TN. The world's biggest economies are shutting their doors on Moscow in the beginning of a series of retaliatory measures expected against Vladimir Putin's government over its escalation of the crisis in Eastern Europe. Ms Truss said: "Our support is unwavering for the territorial integrity of Ukraine."

https://www.express.co.uk/news/polit...rmy-war-update

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Peston has an interesting take on thid. He reckons any Russian organisation not sanctioned will move their money out of London now to avoid likely sanctions.

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Reported that all 351 members of rusian parliament that backed putin to be sanctioned by the EU.

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One thing the U.K and U.S have done well is going so public with the intelligence. By the time Russia went ahead with it every scenario had been well-briefed out and expected. It gave little room for Putin to have any pretext at all.

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Putin's best buddy, The Donald, thinks he's a genius....
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-ne...asion-ukraine/

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I wonder how he would have reacted to the invasion if he were still President?

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he would have wanted to pour bleach all over it

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Defender of the Fatherland day


Today in Russia


http://www.rusevents.info/holiday/de...atherland-day/

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Liz Truss: “Ofcom is looking into RT”

The UK’s foreign secretary Liz Truss has invited Ofcom to look into RT’s content over the Russian invasion of Ukraine, an issue the watchdog views as a “priority”.

https://www.tvbeurope.com/business/l...ooking-into-rt

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I expect its days are numbered. Starmer put the pressure on yesterday by saying it should not be allowed to broadcast in the UK.
https://news.sky.com/video/ukraine-s...ation-12548699

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Why do you have to stir up division & bullshit in every thread Mr K? :dozey:

You think Biden has done brilliantly here?

Pull the other one.

Putin is a genius, he has handled the west like putty. You don’t have to like someone to hail them a genius. No doubt in my mind that Putin’s absolutely ecstatic Trump is no longer President of the United States and someone so weak and pathetic as Biden is. Russia’s annexing of Ukraine is now inevitable, under Biden.

Meanwhile, China’s gleefully eyeing up Taiwan in the distance. But as usual Trump derangement syndrome strikes again

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What do you think the West should have done differently here?

I don't think Putin cares who is President because the options remain the same whoever it's in charge. What would he have done differently? Putin didn't care about the West's response when he used a chemical weapon in England either. The arming of the rebels in Donetsk has been happening for years as well.

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I don't think honestly we know what Putin would or wouldn't have done under Trump. It's speculation.

But how is linking to a report on what Trump has said on record stirring up division & bullshit?

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Laughable.

Putin would not have done it, under Trump. Putin knew Donald had a redline, he saw that when Syria gassed its own people, including children. Trump ordered a military strike against Syria, albeit, a brief one, despite Russia being its staunch ally.

As for linking to the report, that’s all Mr K does, pitting one side against the other, by yet again, being incapable of letting go of something. He’s foolishly trying to brush Trump as the baddy here again, because he simply says what is bloody obvious. Putin’s a genius, but the caveat is that one does not need to be liked to be refer to someone as such or like what that person is doing.

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Isn't that what Russia has done . . moved 'peacekeeping' forces into areas of unrest and instability? ;)

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Guido Fawkes done it’s own digging….

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As long as they don't break Ofcom rules, I wouldn't think there's much they can do about it.

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where is Ukraine's military whilst this going on? They've got a bigger army than we have

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Probably being told not to confront the Russians, as the Russians have vastly superior Air and long range Artillery and ballistic missile forces, which could stand off and destroy the Ukranian Military from a distance (just like the Allied Forces did in Iraq to Saddam's forces).

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BREAKING: U.S warns Ukraine government that it has intelligence that suggests Ukraine faces full on Russian invasion within next 48 hours, starting with cyber attacks on the country, several Ukrainian government websites are currently down. Source: Evening Standard.

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/worl...s-b984158.html

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The Cyber attacks are 50% less powerful since Dudes not been using his Windows 98 PC hahaha

You can bet Putins Botnet is not just in Russia too

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a few of them are in the Labour party

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Corbyn's no longer in the Labour Party.

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Well no shots have been fired, surely the Ukrainian army should mobilise to surround the provinces Russia has moved into.

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The pea shooters we've given them to defend themselves, then retreated to a safe distance should help.

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No but some of his cronies, still are, dissing NATO. These Labour MPs, they’re an absolute disgrace.

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BREAKING: U.S imposes sanctions on company building Russia’s Nord Stream 2 pipeline.

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I thought it was completed September 2021?

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Yup and Corbyn too is still blaming the West for Russian Agression even if he has been kicked out.

Thankfully all the ones that are dissing NATO are not in any position other than being an MP. Starmer has done a complete 180 on the position of Labour that at the moment Labour are call for tougher action than the Government is.

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I think Russia are still in the 'separatist' regions. The problem will start if they move further into Ukraine. I imagine the Ukrainians are holding back to the edge of those lines in the hope Russia chicken out.

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All those MPs who took Russian money should pay it back and those MPs who support Putin should be deselected at the next election.

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Do that en-masse, and they’ll be seen by satellite/airborne drones, and before the Russian ground troops move forward (beyond where the existing "militia" are), the Ukrainian forces will be hit by artillery, short range ballistic misfiles, and ground attack aircraft…

The best way to blunt/slow down the Russians moving forward is with small stealthy mobile teams (platoon size) armed with anti-tank and anti-aircraft weaponry, utilising asymmetric warfare - any large groupings would be pulverised from a distance; it will be more of a Vietnam conflict than a Korean War, imho.

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I dont think there would be an invasion.
I'm pretty sure its no coincidence he waited until Trump got dumped and replaced by the damp squib they have now

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It might bite Russia more than they think, and become like another Afghanistan.

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Ukraine LATEST: Leaders of Separatist regions ask President Putin for help against Ukrainian army “aggression”, according to Russian news agency, Interfax.

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Here comes the False Flag excuse from Russia…

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Latest: Ukraine response to this forces then to urgently request a UN Security Council meeting.

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BREAKING: Emergency meeting of UN Security Council will begin at 2130 est (New York time), in 2 hours time. Requested by Ukraine, supported by UK, USA and others.

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U.S Secretary of State, Antony Blinken says he believes Russia will commence full on invasion of Ukraine before night is over.

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Not convinced Donny would have got involved at all and certainly not gone any further than damp squib has. Wonder how many Chechen war veterans are still in the Russian army, first time round they didn't win in spite of an absolutely overwhelming advantage in men and equipment, might turn out similar this time round.

Vlad's been on the telly saying he's sending the troops in and explosions have been reported, apparently he doesn't want to occupy the Ukraine, just denazify it :spin: :(

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And so it begins: Several explosions heard in Ukraine Capital, Kyiv.

Multiple Ukraine cities under attack. Biden decries Russian aggression as unjustified and unprovoked, says he will address America people and the World later on.

US President Joe Biden has said in statement: 'President Putin has chosen a premeditated war that will bring a catastrophic loss of life'

More from Biden:

DefConWarningSystem just now:

Edit: DEFCONWarningSystem clarifies above with chilling effect:

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This is not going to end well this blatant aggression cannot be ignored or not responded too expect a ramping up of military activity in the west. Putin has made a mistake here he doesn't have the support of the Russian people and if this drags on his support will evaporate quickly as sanction's and asset freezing hits hard. Nobody who has taken part in conflict ever wants to see it again but our arm's are being twisted by a man who truly believes he has a destiny and even worse Putin is the type that if he's going down he will take as many as much as he can with him.

My thought's go to Ukraine and it's people and I hope they make Russia pay a heavy price for this.

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The U.K now needs to apply full and brutal sanctions.

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We should have done that already. Too much Russian money in London, we've become dependent on it. Our reaction has been piss poor.

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The crippling one would be their removal from SWIFT. I can’t see that happening tbh

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I’m not sure what sanctions would make Putin sit up and take notice, he appears via his last couple of televised addresses to be living in a fantasyland.

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The Russians have already told us sneeringly that they don’t give a s***t about our sanctions. Putin is looking east to China for the help he needs. The last thing the world needs is for these two countries to work together.

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Over the last ten years or so, we've been actively courting Russian money such that our capital has acquired the nickname in finance as Londongrad.

If we believe sanctions work or are morally justified, what should we do about companies like Stellantis (Peugeot-Citroen-Vauxhall-Fiat) and Renault that own car and van factories in Russia? Ban technology transfer? Ban exports to the UK? Tell them to divest? And what about ownership of Chelsea FC and The Standard newspaper?

Good to see Liz Truss being called out on TV yesterday for courting Russian donations to the Conservative Party. BBC Breakfast viewers praise Dan Walker for ‘absolutely skewering’ Liz Truss with her own photo alongside Russian Tory donor

That's the trouble - as others have eluded to, he's a bit unhinged. He's lied to his country, created a fantasyland and has ended up believing that fantasy himself!

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Ah yes, those Russians that always state the truth and never peddle misinformation or untruths, ever.

If they were booted out of SWIFT they would soon care, but, highly unlikely to occur since the US would be deeply concerned about any potential move away from the USDs use in the global economy.

China is staying publicly at least fairly neutral at the moment, advocating diplomacy. I'd be more concerned about India they've yet to tip their hand in terms of support.

There's apparently significant distress amongst several Russian politicians at the actions Putin is taking.

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https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...4&d=1645696351

https://www.moex.com/n41370/?nt=201

This was after losing 40% of it’s value in the last week.

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They’ll probably keep quiet about it, as critics of the regime seem to accidentally fall out of windows…

If Putin is successful with the invasion of Ukraine, it will be Latvia, Estonia, Lithuania, and Georgia next…

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My thoughts for what they're worth, if you look wars in general the invading side can normally at best expect a high score draw but normally it's long and drawn out that more often than not results in a resounding home win.

If as is being said the obscenely wealthy Russians are supporting Vlad then they're the ones who probably have the best chance in persuading him to stop. We shouldn't freeze their assets, we should seize their assets because a friend of Vlad is an enemy of us all. All those London mansions could make nice hostels for homeless people and we should spend any Russian money we find on arming Ukrainians who at this very moment are probably organising themselves in to resistance groups - particularly after President Zelenskyy authorised Ukrainians to take up arms. I don't think even Vlad would miss the irony of Russian money being used to defend against him.

I do hope I'm wrong but I still think this is on the cards.

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I think this has been 10 years - 15 years even - in the making. Iraq seems to have destroyed America's confidence on the world stage and each subsequent President after Bush has been increasingly isolationist as has the American public. Even now the sentiment in America seems to be 'why is this anything to do with us?'. There is even a ******* on Fox News having a go at what actions the American Government is taking because Putin is not their problem.

People have long had a go at America being the 'world police' but in the absence of any police then thugs and gangsters seize the opportunity.

As for Britain we, and other European NATO nations, need to wake up and take more of this responsibility on for ourselves rather than look to America.

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Didn't Russia invade Georgia when the World was distracted by the Global Financial Crisis to dissuade it from becoming a NATO member and too friendly to the West?

Latvia, Lithuania and Estonia are all NATO members so I can't see them being next.

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Yes, the US is damned if it does and damned if it doesn't intervene!

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America relies on other NATO members to quite an extent.....

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I wonder what the Lebdevs think of the situation?

https://bylinetimes.com/2021/10/21/b...ar-friendship/

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Apparently, it was to "coerce Georgia into peace"…

https://academic.oup.com/ia/article-...xt&login=false

Some interesting foresight in the article of nearly 14 years ago…

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Whether we like it or not, we’re now plunged in to the early stages of World War III

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Heh, I live not too far from Northwood Headquarters. It was nice knowing you all!

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I do not think it will come to that. Putin will end up getting what he wants and the rest of the world will blow hard make noises but end realising they are powerless to stop him. As long as he stops with the Ukraine of course. If he does decide to go further then yes we could well end up there

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Putin will go there, the Baltic states are next, he is absolutely determined to build back Soviet Union as it was.

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BREAKING: Prime Minister Boris Johnson, to address nation at 12 Noon and will update MPs at 5pm in the House of Commons.

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Meanwhile:
Nato Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg announces the activation of defence plans in response to Russia invading Ukraine. NATO held an emergency meeting at the request of neighbouring countries to Ukraine, who feel their territory is under threat.

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I just don't know how sane he is.

If by Baltic states, we mean Latvia, Lithuania and Estonia then they're all in NATO so fellow NATO members like the UK will be obliged to defend their territorial integrity.

A sane Russian leader would not attack a NATO member.

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Putin's sanity is in question right now his televised speeches have become more and more delusional and his deployment of forces to the border with China now makes more sense.

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Brussels: Russia facing complete shut off from World trade Markets in a allied and massive targeted response to this act of aggression.

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Current view on Flightradar24.

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Interesting foreword from the 2020 Russia Report by the Parliamentary Intelligence & Security Committee.

https://isc.independent.gov.uk/wp-co...Accessible.pdf

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BREAKING: Russian Ruble tanks vs. Euro. Whilst Russia warns its own citizens joining Anti-war protests.

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Apparently there is significant disquiet about this in Russia. Maybe some hope that Putin might be overreaching.

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I would agree with that analysis. I think there's a history of paranoia within the country's government stretching back to Soviet times and possibly preceding that.

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Anyone wanting to know what ROI looks like need go no further than this Tweet. How can EU expansion to the Baltic states and Poland really threaten Russia?

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Probably worried that their own citizens might like the look of their neighbours new found posperity, did you know that Soviet soldiers returning from WWII were sent to the gulag if the described how much better German homes were compared to Soviet

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Johnson not ruling out military intervention:

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Seems Belarus is also complicit in this invasion so do sanctions cover them also?

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BREAKING: 9 Chinese Fighter jets spotted in Taiwan defence zone according to Taiwan Defence Minister.

https://www.gbnews.uk/news/taiwan-de...ce-zone/234342

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F1 Racer Seb Vettel will not race in Russian Grand Prix this September. Vows F1 to pull out, stated that it will be ‘wrong to race in that country’.

Elsewhere… UEFA is set to announce tomorrow it is moving the Champions League final from St Petersburg, Russia.

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U.S President Joe Biden to address America & the World on Russia invading Ukraine at 5:30pm, UK time.

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https://twitter.com/kateferguson4/st...66682228334599

:tu:

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Just about to post the above. That will put a few Russian noses out of joint.

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I believe this is not being done as any form of sanction but nevertheless it could maybe help in the grand scale of things, though I do feel that this is a decision that reflects UEFA's interests. Link for anyone interested in which other sporting events, in addition to the F1 mentioned by Mick, could well be effected.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/60504979

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There are Reports that Kremlin website is down.

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UK Prime Minister is pushing "very hard" for Russia to be ejected from the SWIFT international payments system. EU are resisting though.

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Russian troops have breached in to Kyiv, Ukraine Capital.

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Good thread on why Farage's poking-the-bear analogy is wrong.
https://threadreaderapp.com/user/DmitryOpines

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Stop going on about Farage. He isn’t the topic.

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UK Intelligence reports Ukraine is putting up a staunch resistance, still hold all cities. There have been heavy casualties on both sides though but it remains unclear how many casualties there actually is.

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Refutation of the common misconception (mentioned by Vlad in his "justification of invasion" speech) that NATO would not expand Eastward.

This statement is from someone who was there, and instrumental in the treaty negotiations - Mikhail Sergeyevich Gorbachev...

https://www.brookings.edu/blog/up-fr...achev-says-no/

This article is from over 7 years ago, so history is not being "rewritten" to justify current events (unlike with Putin's speeches).

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Ukraine is now also calling on West to kick Russia out of SWIFT payment system, says it’s the toughest non-military action they could take to cripple Russian economy.

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Would probably cause issues within the EU, especially Germany, which is why they're in no hurry to do it.

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Even more issues for British political parties that receive donations from Russia, so can't see the UK being too keen on this either. ;)

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President Putin says 'no other way' to defend Russia other than by invading Ukraine says also he doesn’t want to undermine global economic system.

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Tough new sanctions now being applied to Russia. Currently being announced in House of Commons.

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Hearing that this won't be as crippling as we've been led to believe and the consequences could terrifically backfire, let's hope damp squib, bozo and the others have weighed up all the scenarios correctly

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oh really?

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Russian firms totally banned from UK financial system.

ALL Russian Airline Aeroflot planes banned from UK Airspace.

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I always live in hope. Certainly, Poland and the Baltic states are keen on this type of action. hopefully the pea-shooter comments have spurred the UK on.

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Don't waste your time Carth.

It's pathetic in a situation like this that some idiots see it as an opportunity to have childish pops and digs. :rolleyes: :mad: :td:

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Should already have had cruise missiles already targeted for inside
ukranian side of russian/ukrain border. First sign of attack missiles should have been launched inside ukranian border,

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Can I please insist we ALL have a bit of unity, no more them vs. us. Referring to others as idiots doesn’t help.

Unity is needed because I’m watching with my own eyes, innocent Ukrainian people, children being targeted by military jets. Footage shows One plane shoots missiles at a house, with a young child, I’ve never seen anything so chilling. So please. Enough is enough.

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What the hell has this got to do with that fool

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Large demonstrations have occurred in St Petersburg, Russia - despite warnings it’s government will crack down heavy on any anti-war protesters.