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1andrew1 29-06-2021 10:08
Re: GB News
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36084759)
I think the problem is there doesn't seem to be much of a market for an opinion-led news channel on British Television. It's the type of thing people get on YouTube or other social media.

I know they want to clip their segments for social media but they're doing so at the cost of a major operation whereas YouTube channels are usually a freelance presenter with a camera. Those YouTube channels will get more views as well.

I can't see how GB News is viable in the long term unless they turn this around. They're getting fewer people than Sky News and Sky News runs at a loss subsidised by the wider Sky Television offering. GB News needs to be profitable in it's own right.
It just reminds me of the Today newspaper - underfunded with far less news content than its competitors and with technical errors.

But Today was at least innovative with new colour presses and it encouraged changes in Fleet Street working practices. I'm not sure what GB News brings to the table that hasn't been done better on YouTube, LBC or Talk Radio before.

Sephiroth 29-06-2021 10:31
Re: GB News
 
Well put, Andrew. It doesn't meet its hyped objectives and, for the time being at least, it's a fail.

jonbxx 29-06-2021 11:35
Re: GB News
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36084760)
It just reminds me of the Today newspaper - underfunded with far less news content than its competitors and with technical errors.

But Today was at least innovative with new colour presses and it encouraged changes in Fleet Street working practices. I'm not sure what GB News brings to the table that hasn't been done better on YouTube, LBC or Talk Radio before.
Yeah, it's a tough call. As it stands, the viewership is low which will impact advertising revenue. I get the feeling that the expectation was the this channel would be more Fox News for the UK than it is. You could see a drift further right to differentiate which might get more viewers but might also scare off more advertisers.

Bearing in mind advertisers bring in money, not viewers, it's a tough call

Damien 06-07-2021 21:26
Re: GB News
 
Their ratings are in free-fall: https://twitter.com/peteprodge/statu...21888693596166

Quote:
WEEK 4:
BBC News: Weekly reach: 7.3m/Share: 1.41%
Sky News: 4.9m/0.75%
GB News: 1.8m/0.49%

WEEK 3:
BBC News: 7.2m/1.15%
Sky News: 4.5m/0.67%
GB News: 2.7m/0.62%
As I said I can easily see some of their content working on social media. Still early days but I really think they've taken on a huge budget to appear on a medium where their audience isn't. This would work better online, uploading videos to YouTube, with a much smaller budget and team doing a few hours of programming each day in the evening.

TheDaddy 06-07-2021 22:14
Re: GB News
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36085504)
Their ratings are in free-fall: https://twitter.com/peteprodge/statu...21888693596166



As I said I can easily see some of their content working on social media. Still early days but I really think they've taken on a huge budget to appear on a medium where their audience isn't. This would work better online, uploading videos to YouTube, with a much smaller budget and team doing a few hours of programming each day in the evening.
Relaunch it as UK news

1andrew1 06-07-2021 22:17
Re: GB News
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36085504)
Their ratings are in free-fall: https://twitter.com/peteprodge/statu...21888693596166

As I said I can easily see some of their content working on social media. Still early days but I really think they've taken on a huge budget to appear on a medium where their audience isn't. This would work better online, uploading videos to YouTube, with a much smaller budget and team doing a few hours of programming each day in the evening.
The novelty viewers have left and viewerss; like figurehead Andrew Neil; have left, but are even less likely to return than him. There won't be direct competition from News UK as it's done its sums.
Quote:
Rebekah Brooks, the chief executive of his News UK company, told staff the enormous cost of getting a television news channel on air meant it did not make business sense to push ahead.

She said the company would instead focus on reaching news audiences via shows on streaming platforms, adding: “While there is consumer demand for alternative news provision, the costs of running a rolling news channel are considerable, and it is our assessment that the payback for our shareholders wouldn’t be sufficient. We need to launch the right products for the digital age.”
https://www.theguardian.com/media/20...-uk-tv-channel

Hugh 15-07-2021 21:24
Re: GB News
 
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GB News say that they don’t have a company line on taking the knee, but then say taking the knee is an unacceptable breach of their standards.

Both can’t be true. :confused:

daveeb 15-07-2021 21:38
Re: GB News
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36086381)
https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...5&d=1626380648

GB News say that they don’t have a company line on taking the knee, but then say taking the knee is an unacceptable breach of their standards.

Both can’t be true. :confused:
Could be an example of alternative facts crossing the pond :)

TheDaddy 15-07-2021 22:02
Re: GB News
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36086381)
https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...5&d=1626380648

GB News say that they don’t have a company line on taking the knee, but then say taking the knee is an unacceptable breach of their standards.

Both can’t be true. :confused:
I don't believe either are true, I mean they have standards
:confused: :shocked:

Hugh 15-07-2021 22:09
Re: GB News
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 36086388)
I don't believe either are true, I mean they have standards
:confused: :shocked:
Set by Andrew ‘Don’t" Neil?

Damien 15-07-2021 22:15
Re: GB News
 
Doesn't really make sense since I thought their entire premise was not rolling news but commentary driven shows led by personalities. Their whole thing is presenters giving their opinion on an issue at the top of the show.

Mick 15-07-2021 22:33
Re: GB News
 
I don't understand all this incessant whinging of the news channel - don't like it, you don't watch, it really is that simple. :rolleyes:

Carth 15-07-2021 22:38
Re: GB News
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mick (Post 36086400)
I don't understand all this incessant whinging of the news channel - don't like it, you don't watch, it really is that simple. :rolleyes:
Silly idea Mick, you know they only watch it so they can complain about it ;)

1andrew1 15-07-2021 22:42
Re: GB News
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mick (Post 36086400)
I don't understand all this incessant whinging of the news channel - don't like it, you don't watch, it really is that simple. :rolleyes:
It's likely a ploy by GB News to raise awareness with the aim of attracting more viewers.

Damien 15-07-2021 22:46
Re: GB News
 
This would be why: https://www.theguardian.com/media/20...aking-the-knee

Quote:
GB News attracted zero viewers during some of its broadcasts this week, according to official television audience figures produced by rating agency Barb, after a viewer boycott prompted by one of its presenters taking the knee in solidarity with the England football team.
Looks like they might have fired the presenter as well?

Quote:
A GB News spokesperson declined to say whether Harri, a former spokesperson for Boris Johnson, was still with the channel.

1andrew1 16-07-2021 00:27
Re: GB News
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36086404)
This would be why: https://www.theguardian.com/media/20...aking-the-knee

Looks like they might have fired the presenter as well?
I'm intrigued about Andrew Neil. Aside from his extensive holiday, his last re-tweet of a GB News item was July 6th. You would think he would be putting more effort into promoting the new channel; he is still tweeting other content.
https://twitter.com/afneil

TheDaddy 16-07-2021 01:55
Re: GB News
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36086402)
Silly idea Mick, you know they only watch it so they can complain about it ;)

If that were true some of their broadcasts might have attracted more than zero viewers...

Sephiroth 16-07-2021 07:49
Re: GB News
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 36086411)
If that were true some of their broadcasts might have attracted more than zero viewers...
... or perhaps less than zero voters.

papa smurf 16-07-2021 08:32
Re: GB News
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36086404)
This would be why: https://www.theguardian.com/media/20...aking-the-knee



Looks like they might have fired the presenter as well?
Probably head hunted by the bbc, I watched in horror as did his co presenter.

Maggy 16-07-2021 09:17
Re: GB News
 
Maybe it's just not good at the job of presenting the news?Perhaps it needs to stop being the topic of the news?:shrug:

Damien 16-07-2021 10:18
Re: GB News
 
I wonder how long they'll give themselves to turn it around. They're paying their presenters quite a bit (if not their production staff).

Sephiroth 16-07-2021 10:21
Re: GB News
 
The format is rubbish and their backers must surely be giveing Andrew Neil some grief.

RichardCoulter 16-07-2021 12:03
Re: GB News
 
There have been allegations that one of the presenters masturbated in front of year 9 children. He has threatened legal action over this.

Mr K 16-07-2021 12:42
Re: GB News
 
Quote:
GB News host Alastair Stewart fears it will be a while until he'll be back on the news channel after breaking his hip as he explains he was 'knocked over' by a horse
https://www.dailystar.co.uk/tv/break...-take-24546851

Doesn't get better for them does it ? It was probably one of the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse...

Damien 16-07-2021 12:57
Re: GB News
 
Yup the presenter who took the knee is off-air 'indefinitely'

https://www.theguardian.com/media/20...g-the-knee-row

If and When Neil comes back it'll be interesting to see if they keep doing the 'Woke Watch' thing where they whine about people being cancelled.

jfman 16-07-2021 12:58
Re: GB News
 
Doubt Neil will be back he will be off like the proverbial rat.

1andrew1 16-07-2021 13:59
Re: GB News
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36086432)
The format is rubbish and their backers must surely be giveing Andrew Neil some grief.
Judging by his lack of tweets on the subject, I suspect they know better than to waste their time trying to contact him.

RichardCoulter 16-07-2021 14:08
Re: GB News
 
There's rumours in the industry that Andrew Neil wasn't happy about the poor technical standards during the first couple of weeks and that he has now pulled out of the project.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36086450)
Yup the presenter who took the knee is off-air 'indefinitely'

https://www.theguardian.com/media/20...g-the-knee-row

If and When Neil comes back it'll be interesting to see if they keep doing the 'Woke Watch' thing where they whine about people being cancelled.
I wonder if this was a ploy by this presenter to get out of his contract? It might also have been orchestrated as a publicity stunt to try and generate more much needed viewers.

TheDaddy 16-07-2021 14:08
Re: GB News
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36086444)
There have been allegations that one of the presenters masturbated in front of year 9 children. He has threatened legal action over this.
Whilst he was in year 9 himself and it wasn't in front of children it was craftily under the desk, you misrepresent allegations like that and you might find yourself threatened with legal action

1andrew1 16-07-2021 14:11
Re: GB News
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36086455)
There's rumours in the industry that Andrew Neil wasn't happy about the poor technical standards during the first couple of weeks and that he has now pulled out of the project.
If it was my project, I'd be fighting tooth and nail to keep it afloat. As I'm sure most people would. I'm surprised Andrew Neil isn't doing the same. Very suspicious to have over two weeks' break at such a defining time in the station's history.

RichardCoulter 16-07-2021 14:17
Re: GB News
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36086444)
There have been allegations that one of the presenters masturbated in front of year 9 children. He has threatened legal action over this.
Darren Grimes has now successfully got the tweet that made these allegations removed.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36086458)
If it was my project, I'd be fighting tooth and nail to keep it afloat. As I'm sure most people would. I'm surprised Andrew Neil isn't doing the same. Very suspicious to have over two weeks' break at such a defining time in the station's history.
Exactly.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 36086457)
Whilst he was in year 9 himself and it wasn't in front of children it was craftily under the desk, you misrepresent allegations like that and you might find yourself threatened with legal action
It's an offence to knowingly indulge in sexual activity in front of minors, whether openly or covertly.

I don't believe that the fact that they were all alleged to be in year 9 makes any difference in the eyes of the law, for example, if a 14 year old sent a naked picture of themselves to another 14 year old (or of any age), they are committing the offence of distributing indecent pictures of children.

TheDaddy 16-07-2021 14:21
Re: GB News
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36086459)
It's an offence to knowingly indulge in sexual activity in front of minors, whether openly or covertly.

I don't believe that the fact that they were all in year 9 makes any difference in the eyes of the law, for example, if a 14 year old sent a naked picture of themselves to someone else of any age, they are committing the offence of distributing indecent pictures of children.
Do you not see the difference in how you represented it, you put it on a whole different context and it's shocking given the legal team you have backing you up

RichardCoulter 16-07-2021 14:57
Re: GB News
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 36086463)
Do you not see the difference in how you represented it, you put it on a whole different context and it's shocking given the legal team you have backing you up
I don't believe I misrepresented anything and made it clear that these were allegations.

I am, however, happy to acknowledge that one of my disabilities may have an impact on my cognitive skills & the way that I can express myself.

papa smurf 16-07-2021 15:08
Re: GB News
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36086468)
I don't believe I misrepresented anything and made it clear that these were allegations.

I am, however, happy to acknowledge that one of my disabilities may have an impact on my cognitive skills & the way that I can express myself.
what have you got, cop out syndrome ?

TheDaddy 16-07-2021 15:19
Re: GB News
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36086468)
I don't believe I misrepresented anything and made it clear that these were allegations.

I am, however, happy to acknowledge that one of my disabilities may have an impact on my cognitive skills & the way that I can express myself.
Really, you don't believe you misrepresented a year 9 boy being caught knocking one out under a desk by saying

There have been allegations that one of the presenters masturbated in front of year 9 children.

That is a far worse thing to have said than the actual allegations themselves, consult your legal team for their opinion on what you've done

RichardCoulter 16-07-2021 16:07
Re: GB News
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36086471)
what have you got, cop out syndrome ?
For clarification, are you suggesting that the effects of my brain injury are not as described?

papa smurf 16-07-2021 16:27
Re: GB News
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36086479)
For clarification, are you suggesting that the effects of my brain injury are not as described?
Are you answering my question with a question?

RichardCoulter 16-07-2021 16:36
Re: GB News
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36086483)
Are you answering my question with a question?
No condition called 'Cop out syndrome' exists, so i'm asking you to clarify what you mean.

papa smurf 16-07-2021 16:41
Re: GB News
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36086484)
No condition called 'Cop out syndrome' exists, so i'm asking you to clarify what you mean.
my condition may have an impact on my cognitive skills & the way that I can express myself.

Carth 16-07-2021 16:43
Re: GB News
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36086484)
No condition called 'Cop out syndrome' exists, so i'm asking you to clarify what you mean.
Maybe not in those particular words, but I think most would agree that there are situations and events in everyday life that perfectly fit the bill, as it were ;)

RichardCoulter 16-07-2021 16:54
Re: GB News
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36086485)
my condition may have an impact on my cognitive skills & the way that I can express myself.
Yes, that's correct.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36086487)
Maybe not in those particular words, but I think most would agree that there are situations and events in everyday life that perfectly fit the bill, as it were ;)
I'm trying to ascertain if it's being suggested that I am lying about the effects of my disability in order to benefit myself in some way.

papa smurf 16-07-2021 16:57
Re: GB News
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36086432)
The format is rubbish and their backers must surely be giveing Andrew Neil some grief.
I have it on all day except when i watch Jeremy vine , i think Dewbs and co is pants.

1andrew1 16-07-2021 17:07
Re: GB News
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36086492)
I have it on all day except when i watch Jeremy vine , i think Dewbs and co is pants.
I was disappointed by Dewbs & Co too. I thought it was going to be a reality TV series set in an estate agent. But then again, I thought De Piereo and Halligan was going to be a good old-fashioned cop show. :)

Sephiroth 16-07-2021 17:16
Re: GB News
 
It's just total crap. I have it on when everything else is crap - which is most of the time. Btw, I work from home so watch that crap a lot. Basically, it's not a news channel at all and a very poor features channel because it lacks pulling power both in terms of contributors and attractive whatever.

pip08456 16-07-2021 18:29
Re: GB News
 
Andrew Neil on Twitter today.

Quote:
Start ups are fraught and fractious. @GBNEWS
is no exception. But the news channel is finding its feet and has a great future. Watch this space.
.

Mick 16-07-2021 18:45
Re: GB News
 
So he hasn’t left like the naysayers came up with.

Mr K 16-07-2021 18:53
Re: GB News
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mick (Post 36086502)
So he hasn’t left like the naysayers came up with.
His 2nd in command has gone...
Quote:
The director of programming at GB News is understood to have resigned little more than a month after its launch.

John McAndrew, an industry veteran who has worked at Sky News, the BBC and Euronews, was regarded as the second-in-command of the new network.

The Guardian first reported Mr McAndrew's resignation, which came in the wake of a viewer backlash over presenter Guto Harri's decision to take the knee on air, as well as the departure of senior producer Gill Penlington earlier this week.

Mr McAndrew is reported to have departed as GB News struggles to retain viewers with ratings for some programmes as low as zero.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business...-month-launch/

Mick 16-07-2021 19:06
Re: GB News
 
We’re not talking about his 2nd in command. Wake up Mr K.

Sephiroth 16-07-2021 19:15
Re: GB News
 
For once, I found Mr K's post interesting and relevant.

Damien 16-07-2021 19:31
Re: GB News
 
Sounds like they might do the reboot The Guardian was suggesting. Apparently there was a conflict between people who wanted to do more regional reporting and those who wanted more the culture war stuff. The regional reporting people are out.

It's going be hard to recover from where they are though as they won't have the 'new' factor they had in the first week.

1andrew1 16-07-2021 20:54
Re: GB News
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36086511)
Sounds like they might do the reboot The Guardian was suggesting. Apparently there was a conflict between people who wanted to do more regional reporting and those who wanted more the culture war stuff. The regional reporting people are out.

It's going be hard to recover from where they are though as they won't have the 'new' factor they had in the first week.
The regional stuff was always good fun due to the technical issues. Even last week there were amusing gremlins cropping up with regularity. ;)

Love him or loathe him, but Rupert Murdoch knows a thing or two about TV and news. It's telling that he's chosen not to go for a 24/7 linear channel but to have a website with some content being live streamed.

It's a bit hard for GB News to in effect trade down to this type of offering but I think it makes more sense - you have to spend some serious money to provide a decent 24-hour news channel like Sky News which GB News doesn't have.

Endulging one side of the culture wars might retain viewers but would the channel end up in conflict with Ofcom?

TheDaddy 16-07-2021 20:59
Re: GB News
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36086489)
I'm trying to ascertain if it's being suggested that I am lying about the effects of my disability in order to benefit myself in some way.
No thought for the real victim then, the guy you alleged masturbates in front of year nines, well done you've made me feel sorry for Darren bloody Grimes, hope you're happy!

OLD BOY 16-07-2021 21:19
Re: GB News
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 36086501)
Andrew Neil on Twitter today.

.
All it really needs to be successful is viewers. They are working on that, and have had some interest down at the local pub.

https://www.digitaltveurope.com/2021...-zero-viewers/

Mr K 16-07-2021 22:18
Re: GB News
 
Well if they could get some Premiership football matches it would increase their ratings by 100%, which would still result in zero viewers... (apart from Damien ;))

Carth 16-07-2021 22:44
Re: GB News
 
Nah, nobody cares about Premiership football. What they need are proper stories, from the rougher side of life.

Elderly women reminiscing about loitering at Portsmouth docks.

Retired lorry drivers telling horror stories about Hull to Manchester before the M62 was built.

Ageing rock stars showing young upstarts exactly how to get all that equipment into the back of a Morris Marina Van.

A special, featuring the bloke who decided a square steering wheel for the Allegro was good . . and why.

These are the things the public are crying out for :D

jfman 16-07-2021 23:03
Re: GB News
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36086523)
All it really needs to be successful is viewers. They are working on that, and have had some interest down at the local pub.

https://www.digitaltveurope.com/2021...-zero-viewers/
And it has verifiably none at some points according to BARB.

It’s one of those rare occasions I’ll say God bless unregulated capitalism. It will mean GB news will deservedly die.

Pierre 17-07-2021 08:59
Re: GB News
 
I think there is space for it, but it is still like watching amateur hour.

Mick 17-07-2021 10:45
Re: GB News
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36086534)
And it has verifiably none at some points according to BARB.

It’s one of those rare occasions I’ll say God bless unregulated capitalism. It will mean GB news will deservedly die.
That’s just pathetic and part of the stupid wokeness from lefty soft arses, who all they want to do, is get something cancelled. No wonder you lot lost the Brexit Referendum, with this cancel culture crap. :rolleyes:

Problem with many of you, assume wrongly. It’s not a racist channel, it’s got a diverse list of presenters. Some good, some not so good. Andrew Neil said from the outset it wouldn’t be a rolling news channel. I think that’s a mistake.

jfman 17-07-2021 11:15
Re: GB News
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mick (Post 36086560)
That’s just pathetic and part of the stupid wokeness from lefty soft arses, who all they want to do, is get something cancelled. No wonder you lot lost the Brexit Referendum, with this cancel culture crap. :rolleyes:

Problem with many of you, assume wrongly. It’s not a racist channel, it’s got a diverse list of presenters. Some good, some not so good. Andrew Neil said from the outset it wouldn’t be a rolling news channel. I think that’s a mistake.
If they’re not offering anything of value then that’s capitalism in action unfortunately, who am I to stand in the way and oppose that? That’s a very right wing economic outlook.

I’m not that into wokeness to be honest, and have a range of opinions that wouldn’t fit in. Cancel culture and stoking up a culture war on trivial social issues isn’t in my interests, nor yours. But while everyone is distracted by that important things that actually matter are lost. Corrupt politicians, the revolving door of Ministers/advisers and the media/big financial firms. But hey look over there there’s some black men claiming their lives matter! Get me my pitch fork.

1andrew1 17-07-2021 11:34
Re: GB News
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mick (Post 36086560)
That’s just pathetic and part of the stupid wokeness from lefty soft arses, who all they want to do, is get something cancelled. No wonder you lot lost the Brexit Referendum, with this cancel culture crap. :rolleyes:

Problem with many of you, assume wrongly. It’s not a racist channel, it’s got a diverse list of presenters. Some good, some not so good. Andrew Neil said from the outset it wouldn’t be a rolling news channel. I think that’s a mistake.
It had an even more diverse list of presenters until it cancelled one of them for taking the knee!

Mick 17-07-2021 14:09
Re: GB News
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36086565)
It had an even more diverse list of presenters until it cancelled one of them for taking the knee!
Absolute bollocks from you as usual, so they should have, doing a pointless gesture that doesn’t stop racism, presenters should be impartial as per ofcom regulations.

Damien 17-07-2021 17:06
Re: GB News
 
Farage is going to be doing a 7pm show now. Looks like they are going to move more towards the opinion angle.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mick (Post 36086574)
Absolute bollocks from you as usual, so they should have, doing a pointless gesture that doesn’t stop racism, presenters should be impartial as per ofcom regulations.
But they’re not impartial. They have the presenters giving their opinions on things .

The problem here was it’s the wrong opinion for their audience so they cancelled the guy.

Hugh 17-07-2021 17:33
Re: GB News
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36086585)
Farage is going to be doing a 7pm show now. Looks like they are going to move more towards the opinion angle.

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But they’re not impartial. They have the presenters giving their opinions on things .

The problem here was it’s the wrong opinion for their audience so they cancelled the guy.
First time I’ve seen a rat join a sinking ship…

Sephiroth 17-07-2021 17:52
Re: GB News
 
Farage is not a rat. Her is a great man who managed to steer us out of the EU. I never voted for his party, of course.

Hugh 17-07-2021 17:57
Re: GB News
 
Metaphor…

Sephiroth 17-07-2021 18:01
Re: GB News
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36086596)
Metaphor…
The Farage bit was specific. Of xourse, if you wish to rescind the remark ...

Mick 17-07-2021 18:58
Re: GB News
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36086588)
First time I’ve seen a rat join a sinking ship…
Pathetic. :zzz:

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36086585)
Farage is going to be doing a 7pm show now. Looks like they are going to move more towards the opinion angle.

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But they’re not impartial. They have the presenters giving their opinions on things .

The problem here was it’s the wrong opinion for their audience so they cancelled the guy.
You obviously haven’t read the rules on OfCom impartiality, a presenter can give an opinion but they have to still maintain balance from both sides of the aisle.

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As soon as I saw the announcement earlier. I just knew it would spark the pathetic triggering of bitter Remainers all over the place.

Nigel did have a popular LBC show for a good while.

TheDaddy 17-07-2021 19:53
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36086594)
Farage is not a rat. Her is a great man who managed to steer us out of the EU. I never voted for his party, of course.
I quite like him but then I did before it was fashionable to as well, to this day whenever he talks about brexit I feel a little reassured and I did vote for his party, many times, even campaigned for them.

Sephiroth 17-07-2021 20:37
Re: GB News
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 36086622)
I quite like him but then I did before it was fashionable to as well, to this day whenever he talks about brexit I feel a little reassured and I did vote for his party, many times, even campaigned for them.
Fair enough and respect. I'm a paid up Conservative member and John Redwood is my MP!

Damien 17-07-2021 22:02
Re: GB News
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mick (Post 36086607)
You obviously haven’t read the rules on OfCom impartiality, a presenter can give an opinion but they have to still maintain balance from both sides of the aisle.
Then why is this allowed: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uy7QjV5NV0s

8 mins of Wootton giving his opinion and not giving the other side of the argument? How is it allowed in the OfCom rules that he is allowed, for example, to defend booing taking the knee but you're not allowed to support it?

papa smurf 17-07-2021 22:15
Re: GB News
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36086645)
Then why is this allowed: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uy7QjV5NV0s

8 mins of Wootton giving his opinion and not giving the other side of the argument? How is it allowed in the OfCom rules that he is allowed, for example, to defend booing taking the knee but you're not allowed to support it?
There are 3 guests who argue the other side after his nightly rant

jfman 17-07-2021 22:25
Re: GB News
 
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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36086646)
There are 3 guests who argue the other side after his nightly rant
Yeah so one guy taking the insignificant, meaningless and “won’t end racism” knee results in… apoplectic white people?

Mick 17-07-2021 22:30
Re: GB News
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36086645)
Then why is this allowed: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uy7QjV5NV0s

8 mins of Wootton giving his opinion and not giving the other side of the argument? How is it allowed in the OfCom rules that he is allowed, for example, to defend booing taking the knee but you're not allowed to support it?
Don’t think he ever said in that 8 minutes you couldn’t support it, he explains why he does not support it. He also goes on to say he is all for anti racism in sports, but not one which has been inherited from the States and which he says represents the socialist BLM movement, which calls on the Police to be defunded.

TheDaddy 17-07-2021 22:43
Re: GB News
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36086646)
There are 3 guests who argue the other side after his nightly rant
If that's anything like other stations offerings then they're not worth paying attention to anyway, usually there's an expert who knows what they're talking about sat there listening to an alternative view put forward by some z lister with little basis in factual reality, all in the interests of balance of course, waste of everyone's time

Hugh 17-07-2021 22:44
Re: GB News
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mick (Post 36086648)
Don’t think he ever said in that 8 minutes you couldn’t support it, he explains why he does not support it. He also goes on to say he is all for anti racism in sports, but not one which has been inherited from the States and which he says represents the socialist BLM movement, which calls on the Police to be defunded.
And as Guto Harri said

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GB News is - above all - about free speech; having the debates others won’t. English footballers have made it clear that when they take the knee they are making a clear statement about rejecting racism (not endorsing the narrow divisive aims of BLM). I support them

pip08456 17-07-2021 22:50
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Never knew knees could talk Hugh. I know they could be used for virtue signalling.

Mick 17-07-2021 22:57
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I will say this one more time FFS. Taking the knee does not or will not stop racism, it rejects nothing.

jfman 17-07-2021 23:00
Re: GB News
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mick (Post 36086658)
I will say this one more time FFS. Taking the knee does not or will not stop racism, it rejects nothing.
Rejecting racism and stopping racism aren’t one and the same.

I pass charity workers trying to solve homelessness or save whales and I know their efforts will likely achieve neither. However I don’t find their presence objectionable. What makes “the knee” - started by Colin Kapernick - so?

Hugh 17-07-2021 23:00
Re: GB News
 
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Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 36086657)
Never knew knees could talk Hugh. I know they could be used for virtue signalling.
Best ask Guto about that, as he said it…

But as anyone who understands English would have realised, he was talking about the England football players.

1andrew1 17-07-2021 23:25
Re: GB News
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36086659)
What makes “the knee” - started by Colin Kapernick - so?
Objectors seem unable to detach it from BLM in the US and its Marxist approach. Anyone who knows anything about footballers' pay must understand that they are a world apart from Marxism.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36086645)
Then why is this allowed: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uy7QjV5NV0s

8 mins of Wootton giving his opinion and not giving the other side of the argument? How is it allowed in the OfCom rules that he is allowed, for example, to defend booing taking the knee but you're not allowed to support it?
The previous statement was erroneous. If you get someone on radio saying the earth is spherical, you don't have to find a flat-earther to provide balance. https://www.ofcom.org.uk/tv-radio-an...ality-accuracy

Mick 17-07-2021 23:26
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36086659)
Rejecting racism and stopping racism aren’t one and the same.

I pass charity workers trying to solve homelessness or save whales and I know their efforts will likely achieve neither. However I don’t find their presence objectionable. What makes “the knee” - started by Colin Kapernick - so?
Because it is a pointless gesture, that won’t cure racism, gesture politics, inherited from the U.S.

jfman 17-07-2021 23:28
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mick (Post 36086666)
Because it is a pointless gesture, that won’t cure racism, gesture politics, inherited from the U.S.
The world is full of pointless gestures many of us ignore, what galvanises people to oppose this one?

If black English footballers created their own gesture would you still oppose it?

Paul 17-07-2021 23:36
Re: GB News
 
How about getting back to the topic, which Im pretty sure is GB News ...........

papa smurf 18-07-2021 22:21
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GB News: Guto Harri quits channel after being 'suspended' for taking the knee live on air
GB NEWS presenter Guto Harri has resigned from the news channel about being "suspended" for an "unacceptable breach" of conduct following his decision to take the knee live on air.


probably slither back to the bbc



https://www.express.co.uk/showbiz/tv...-conduct-video

1andrew1 18-07-2021 22:43
Re: GB News
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36086755)
GB News: Guto Harri quits channel after being 'suspended' for taking the knee live on air
GB NEWS presenter Guto Harri has resigned from the news channel about being "suspended" for an "unacceptable breach" of conduct following his decision to take the knee live on air.

probably slither back to the bbc

https://www.express.co.uk/showbiz/tv...-conduct-video
Probably asking BoJo for his old job back as we speak.

TheDaddy 18-07-2021 22:45
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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36086755)
probably slither back to the bbc
On his knees

papa smurf 18-07-2021 22:48
Re: GB News
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36086757)
Probably asking BoJo for his old job back as we speak.
On his knees :)

1andrew1 18-07-2021 23:28
Re: GB News
 
Now that Nigel Farage is on board, what other names will GB go for? Laurence Fox? Katie Hopkins?

Mick 19-07-2021 00:16
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36086764)
Now that Nigel Farage is on board, what other names will GB go for? Laurence Fox? Katie Hopkins?
What tedious point are you trying to make now?

Hopkins has appeared all over the place, been on ITV’s loose women. She’s too controversial and liability for a news channel.

Fox is a leader of his own party, couldn’t be a presenter as per OfCom rules.

Hugh 19-07-2021 12:41
Re: GB News
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mick (Post 36086766)
What tedious point are you trying to make now?

Hopkins has appeared all over the place, been on ITV’s loose women. She’s too controversial and liability for a news channel.

Fox is a leader of his own party, couldn’t be a presenter as per OfCom rules.
Nigel Farage is the Honorary President of the Reform U.K. Party, and is one of the 3 Directors (and Shareholders) of the Reform U.K. Party.

Wonder why he can be a presenter?

pip08456 19-07-2021 13:00
Re: GB News
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36086794)
Nigel Farage is the Honorary President of the Reform U.K. Party, and is one of the 3 Directors (and Shareholders) of the Reform U.K. Party.

Wonder why he can be a presenter?
Is he leader of any of those party's?

Hugh 19-07-2021 13:06
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According to Companies House, yes…

https://find-and-update.company-info...94875/officers

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...7&d=1626696598

And if you don’t think that the major shareholder of a Party isn’t a major leadership position, I’ve got a bridge you might want to buy…

Anyhoo, as Farage (or Fox) will not be presenting a News programme, it’s not an issue with OFCOM

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Due impartiality and due accuracy in news
5.1: News, in whatever form, must be reported with due accuracy and presented with due impartiality.

5.2: Significant mistakes in news should normally be acknowledged and corrected on air quickly (or, in the case of BBC ODPS, corrected quickly). Corrections should be appropriately scheduled (or, in the case of BBC ODPS, appropriately signaled to viewers).

5.3: No politician may be used as a newsreader, interviewer or reporter in any news programmes unless, exceptionally, it is editorially justified. In that case, the political allegiance of that person must be made clear to the audience.

007stuart 19-07-2021 13:33
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36086764)
Now that Nigel Farage is on board, what other names will GB go for? Laurence Fox? Katie Hopkins?
The vile woman certainly has time on her hands.........

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-australia-57883692

RichardCoulter 19-07-2021 13:51
Re: GB News
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36086755)
GB News: Guto Harri quits channel after being 'suspended' for taking the knee live on air
GB NEWS presenter Guto Harri has resigned from the news channel about being "suspended" for an "unacceptable breach" of conduct following his decision to take the knee live on air.


probably slither back to the bbc



https://www.express.co.uk/showbiz/tv...-conduct-video
He says he now feels defamed by GB News, could be an indication of a forthcoming lawsuit.

Apparently, his taking the knee was a stunt discussed beforehand & now they've used it to get rid of him!

Carth 19-07-2021 13:59
Re: GB News
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36086810)
He says he now feels defamed by GB News, could be an indication of a forthcoming lawsuit.

Apparently, his taking the knee was a stunt discussed beforehand & now they've used it to get rid of him!
Has he got recordings of phone calls, text messages, copies of emails and transcripts like that nice, sincere and totally believable Mr Cummings had?

pip08456 19-07-2021 15:12
Re: GB News
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36086800)
According to Companies House, yes…

https://find-and-update.company-info...94875/officers

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...7&d=1626696598

And if you don’t think that the major shareholder of a Party isn’t a major leadership position, I’ve got a bridge you might want to buy…

Anyhoo, as Farage (or Fox) will not be presenting a News programme, it’s not an issue with OFCOM
Farage stepped down as leader in March 2021, being replaced by party chairman Richard Tice

Mick 19-07-2021 15:19
Re: GB News
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36086800)
According to Companies House, yes…

https://find-and-update.company-info...94875/officers

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...7&d=1626696598

And if you don’t think that the major shareholder of a Party isn’t a major leadership position, I’ve got a bridge you might want to buy…

Anyhoo, as Farage (or Fox) will not be presenting a News programme, it’s not an issue with OFCOM
It’s not a leadership position, it’s an honorary one. Honorary President is just that, “Hononary”, it doesn’t bestow any duties or requirements or role. Richard Tice and David Bull are leaders of Reform.

RichardCoulter 19-07-2021 15:38
Re: GB News
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36086813)
Has he got recordings of phone calls, text messages, copies of emails and transcripts like that nice, sincere and totally believable Mr Cummings had?
Don't know, it was just a 'sources close to Gutto Harri say...' thing, so could be a load of rubbish. Guess we'll find out with the passage of time.

Hugh 19-07-2021 17:59
Re: GB News
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mick (Post 36086826)
It’s not a leadership position, it’s an honorary one. Honorary President is just that, “Hononary”, it doesn’t bestow any duties or requirements or role. Richard Tice and David Bull are leaders of Reform.
Paul Oakden, Richard Tice, and Nigel Farage are the Shareholders and Directors of Reform U.K. Party Limited.

Mick 19-07-2021 18:41
Re: GB News
 
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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36086870)
Paul Oakden, Richard Tice, and Nigel Farage are the Shareholders and Directors of Reform U.K. Party Limited.
Sigh... :rolleyes:

Nigel Farage is not a leader of the party, nor a politician.


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