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Extra £19/m if i wanted to go from 500, no thanks!

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Well i was supposed to have gotten the hub yesterday but the parcel seems to have vanished between leaving VM and getting to Yodel, both are blaming each other at the moment which doesn't help me.

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Have you checked the garage roof 3 doors down?

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Just been on to Virgin Media about the superhub 4 upgrade they not giving it away free you need a pay a activation fee of £35 after a bit of bargaining she reduced to £17.50 but was too much anyway so I declined the offer

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Currently there are two ways to get a Hub 4.

1. You upgrade to Gig1. That will come with setup fees as does any change that includes new kit
2. You will be sent an invite for a Hub 4 to help with network management in an area. That change is free of charge.

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Does anyone know where i can do a speedtest that will show me true speed of my connection as i cant get one to show above 830mb but i know im getting full speed as the download speed is what it should be....

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Have you tried https://fast.com ?

May be limited by the CPU at those speeds though!

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If your Hub 4 is in router mode then www.samknows.com/realspeed will show the speed to the Hub and then separately to the device you've triggered the test on.

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it seems im only getting around 880mb wherever its as if my ethernet adapter is limited to 1GB and its a realtek 2.5GB and my router has a 2.5GB ethernet port.

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The ports on the Hub 4 are Gigabit only. 2.5Gb ports weren't available on ISP kit when the Hub 4 was designed.

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ahhh right.

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Heres the best speed test yet after re running tcip optimizer.

https://www.speedtest.net/result/11900147315

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There were a few from other vendors than arris that officially offered link bonding though.

Shame VM in the UK don't just let you use your own kit like most US networks.

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We just came around to mess with dads new internet and i must say we are both very impressed. We are gonna order it tomorrow.

Heres a speed test just run....
https://www.speedtest.net/result/11900842511

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well i've just ordered Gig 1, will be here on Saturday.

When i change the hub, will my VPN need reconfiguring at all?

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Depends whether your vpn is tied to your ip address. New shub = different mac addresses = different ip addresses.

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GM i know this may sound weird my IP address didnt change.

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Pfft, that's nothing, I have previously cancelled my VM sub, the next day, put the new modem in for the new VM account in my wife's name (we used to flip it between us annually for the new customer offers), and kept the same public IP assigned to my router (both modems in modem mode, so the WAN MAC stayed the same).

So literally new account, in a different person's name, using a different superhub, retained the IP.

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When in modem mode it goes off the Mac of the wan interface on whatever router you're using, not the virgin modem, so if you were using the same kit behind it, that would explain how you kept the same IP :)

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Well I got an email today to say they are working on the local network.

So maybe 1G is on its way.

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That is what I got. I am Monday. Can you let me know when they enable it for your area because Lincoln usually follows very soon after Nottingham.

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Woking usually follows within 50 years of Lincoln, so can you let me know when you get it?

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Roger that

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My connection went off around 9:45. I am keeping my fingers crossed for good things.

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A friend has just received a SH4 in Weston Super Mare, and is showing a d3.1 OFDM channel in the bond, along with 31 (should be 32 I'd think?) d3.0 channels.

Still no Gig1 availability, perhaps not enough backhaul?

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At least we are not in limbo with a 2 year rollout schedule and know we are going to get before Christmas.

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To be fair, from the first launch of gig1 in southampton in sept 2019 to dec 2021 when they said it would be done, was a 2 year rollout schedule people were left in limbo for.

And you have more confidence than me in VM delivering before xmas!! ;)

I've had info from Cityfibre that puts me mid-late 2022 for my part of Ipswich, so if VM do hit their target I will perhaps go back to them (with a heavy heart) until CF reach me, although the second CF are available I'll move to them, even if there is some overlap.

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I am less optimistic now, my connection has just come back up so it has only been down about 1hr 30 mins.

I look at it from a common sense approach which probably isn't the best idea when it comes to VM. VM know competition is rising fast and the competitors are offering a better service with regards to upload speed so if an alternative better product is made available to you before VM can provide 1gbit to you then there is a very good chance you switch to another provider and never come back. However, if VM can get 1gbit to you first then there is probably a 70/30 chance you'll think "meh, I have got 1gbit already and it isn't worth the hassle switching just for a bit more upload speed". That is what I hope they are thinking anyway. If they keep it going well into next year then they are going to be shooting themselves in the foot.

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I'm not sure I'd call 55m for £62 vs 1000m for £40 "a bit more"

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Sounds like the area is ready, VM just havent "made it available"

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Just noticed my ip address has changed after my connection came back up earlier and it isn't anything close to what it was before. There weren't any VM vans at my street cabinet so the upgrades must have been more substantial higher the network.

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Well i've had 1GB since last Saturday and its not disappointed me either.

Depending on the time of day i get between 880 - 935mb/s.

Does anyone know if this tier has any download\upload caps or restrictions?
Thanks.

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No it does not

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Thanks.

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Do these Power Levels look OK?

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Gig1 still isnt showing as available in my area (Bournemouth). Is it likely taking time to show up on the website or could that mean it is not available yet on my local area?

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It is only available in a few areas, certainly not mine! Do you have any reason to think it should be available in your area?

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If you're on the edge between two network headends, you may be connected to a different one that you think.

For instance up here, places that are within the Manchester City boundary are actually connected to the Ashton-under-Lyne for the Gig1 rollout.

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Only the ISPReview article - have not heard anything direct from VM though

Ah interesting OK.

Will wait and see. Not desperate for it but would potentially like to add it when available depending on total cost

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Well they did whatever they were doing, my connection went down (twice) for about an hour.

Ultimately, there was no obvious change, even my IP remained as before & 1G is still not an available option.

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If anything it is the other way round. Historically they have been very quick to update the website with new services and when you ring up to upgrade the call centres don't know anything about it and say it isn't available on their system.


me neither, I have been checking every day.

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1 gig definitely live in Wigan, hub 4 arriving on Thursday. Couldn't really say no for an extra £9.85 a month from m500 to 1 gig.

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I have just been exploring my options for when 1gbit is available in my area and looking at Asus 2.5gbit and 10gbit nics as well as routers with faster throughput than my current one. I won't delve into >1gbit routers for the future atm but I have found a corker of a deal for today if anyone is interested. My current router (Asus AC68U) it something around 740mbits wan to lan through and I would obviously want to achieve more than that if I upgraded to 1gbit. Without coughing up ~£400 for an AX11000 plus the relevant nic and patch cables (>1gbit) I have been looking at the AC86U which has 940mbits wan to lan throughput and is the cracking price of £119 on Amazon. Get it while you can peeps!

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I have one of those connected to an Asus rog gt ac5300 as an aimesh node, I'll let you know tomorrow what actual speeds they get.
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Bear in mind that while these Asus and similar routers can do ~940mbit it's usually with all the useful features (IPS, IDS, QoS, Filtering, Monitoring, VPN, etc) turned off.

For a "consumer" 1gbit class all-in-one router (that will do ~940mbit with all features on) something like a UDM would work well.

https://linitx.com/product/ubiquiti-...version)/16267

If you want more than that, you start to go down the Ubiquiti or Mikrotik line of dedicated routers and separate access points etc.

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That is my second option which i was refering to above. I would love to get it but atm it is £480 and i like to do a proper job so if i got that i would want the 10gbit nic which is £85 plus replace the cabling and switches around the house. I havent had a look at the switches yet but when you add it all up it will probable come to the £900 mark. It is a lot of dosh but it isnt just for 1gbit. It is an investment in network infrastructure for the house which will last many years to come.

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Why would you want a 10G nic for that overpriced thing when it only has 1G lan ports?

The cheap way to do 10G is with SFP+ cards from ebay. RJ45 10G is horribly expensive, power hungry, higher latency, there really are no selling points to it.

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I don't want to do 10gbits but if I have got to upgrade my nic why have 2.5gbits when you an have 10? (futureproofing).

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Anyone know the cost to go from M600 to 1gig?

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I think it is going to be whatever they feel like when you ring up. I have had my last two upgrades for free (200 to 350 and 350 to 500) as long as I sign up to a new 18 month contract.

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It was £116 to add it onto my existing ultimate oompth bundle with 3 tivo boxes on a new 18 month contract.

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A one off payment? How much do you pay/ month now?

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I read it as he added it to his ultimate oomph bundle which now costs £116/month on a new 18 month contract and one would assume that is a discounted price.

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That's correct.

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How much were you paying before? I’m paying £110 for 2 TiVo boxes ang 600 meg

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£94

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Im paying £67 for 1Gig BB and Landline with all calls included.

We just have Freesat for TV with a firestick and Netflix account all we need.

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So, VM said they would rollout gig1 to their whole network by the end of 2021, a 2 year timetable, and with 3.5 months to go have a little under 50% of it done.... do we think they will make the date?

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Well it's a bit better than that

https://news.virginmediao2.co.uk/vir...million-homes/

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To be fair until about 10 mins before I posted that, it was 8m out of 15.5m :D

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I noticed that 1gig is now available in Hartlepool. I thought it was reserved for the large towns and cities. VM tell me I need to re-contract to upgrade my UO package to 1gig.

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The list tends to always list major area it's gone live in, but the availability is always the surrounding areas connected to the headend there.

Due to cable's history as I've said before, you're not always connected to the major area you think you are.

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Getting our upgrade Friday. Self install SH4, will probably set to modem mode to keep things easy.

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I was 3 months away from having to re-contract so just did it the other day to get the 1 gig.

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I says Nottingham is now live so hopefully Lincoln will follow very soon.

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My brother and I both live in Nottingham, my post code says 1Gig available, his says 500Mb only, why would this be? He lives around 2 miles away.

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Give it a couple of days, they still might be working their way through the postcode list making it available in each area. I think Nottingham has literally been turned on in the last couple of days because I know Paul (forum admin) checked last week following some area upgrades and it wasn't available.

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It appears for me now :)

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Nottingham is actually pretty fragmented in the VM network. It's split across Nottingham, Clifton, Basford, Mapperley and Stapleford hubsites.

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I notice Cambridge is now enabled, does that have any relevance to Ipswich? Any areas I should look out for as bellwethers?

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Cambridge and Ipswich aren't closely related. Colchester is the only other hubsite down your way.

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Ah well, thanks!

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Oxford now enabled - SH4 on its way.

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I'm connected to the Basford site, no idea about my brother, he lives in Hyson Green.

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Very interestingly I have just had another text from Virgin saying their will be service disruption today as they are upgrading the network and it will be complete by 18:00 so fingers crossed.

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What uses are you guys finding for 1gig? I'm struggling to find one (over 500) until they up the upstream

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He's on Nottingham.

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Well last night I unexpectedly had to re-download a film.and on my 500mbit connection it took just over 2 mins at 64MB/sec. When I saw Paul's message that Nottingham had been upgraded I knew I would follow shortly and started thinking how I would notice the change. My new router will give me a throughput of 110MB/sec which means a film will take less than a minute and tv episodes will be 5 or 6 seconds.

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Just became available in my area recently, I tried to use live chat to upgrade but they're fairly insistent I pay the full £62 (Gig1 broadband only) plus £35 for a Hub 4.

It seems pretty much nobody is getting the monthly price lower, but can they be made to lose the "activation charge"? Seems daft when they're handing out Hub 4s to certain areas for free and to new customers...

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Just for the record, I'm on Nottingham (Basford).

The upload is 52 mbps (I think), so I'm deciding if thats worth the £62.
My current deal expires in Feb 2022, so that may be a good point to consider upgrading.

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So out of interest how much more are people being asked to pay?
From UO 600mb/s I was told I would need to pay £35 for the Sh4 and £6pm extra sub on a new contract.
At £6pm I snapped it up so did not quibble over the fee. Sky charge you an admin fee for every change on package.

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Ipswich is having te network upgraded at present and will have Docsis 3.1 enabled Oct/Nov, poss end of year.

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The step up from UO 600mb depends on what you were paying. I was paying £85 a month and was quoted £111 for the 1 gig upgrade with sky cinema UHD addon included.

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sounds like you are paying £6 for bb and £10 for movies which is pretty standard

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I was on £95 and they made it £101 - + £35 one-off. I guess it is down to who answers the 'phone.

I see the new contract fee for UO is now £85.

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I'm in Arnold and under Mapperley Area 30 but despite registering my interest 2 years ago, I have not recieved the email to let me know that it's available.

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Well remembered. I did that as well and completely forgot about it. It will be interesting to see if I receive anything when it go lives or if they turned it off.

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The interest is only kept for 18 months

https://www.virginmedia.com/offers/g...er-my-interest

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My brothers post code does now list 1 gig as available now so must have just taken a while to update the post codes on the checker.

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thanks

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everytime i check the site all i get is Please enter postcode and house no.

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yeah I do that, I have to choose the neighbour next door who I know isn't with VM so it doesn't ask me to sign in and when it sends me to the store I click on broadband and scroll down to the bottom for 1gbit and it says something like "sorry, gig1 isn't available in your area yet".

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VM have an API that seems to give accurate results. Someone (who shall remain nameless unless they want to be named...) has made a checker for it that is feeding this dashboard I am using, not my address pictured just a random postcode from google:

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...2&d=1631273295

I have this as my homepage (with my address on) to easily watch for roadworks etc in my area filtered by provider. The API that feeds the VM result seems accurate, a checker for it might get pushed to git later if people want it....

MOD EDIT - picture resized to fit screens better

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what website is this??

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One I'm hosting myself, built by a friend, who hosts his own copy. Not quite happy to give out links at the moment mostly because it defaults to my home address, but probably will soon.

For the random address above, the VM API returns the following:

https://www.cableforum.uk/images/local/2021/09/2.png

Like I say, no idea who lives here, but it lists FTTP vs HFC, it lists max BB speed, etc. It even tells you if telephony is DOCSIS only (VoIP) or TDM (has a normal telephone socket).

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https://cableforum.rtho.me/

There you go, it's very beta and might break, especially if everyone overwhelms it. There will be some edge cases it doesn't parse as we haven't seen that status before (like Cityfibre at the default address there) I picked a random address in Bournemouth. Sorry if it's yours ;)

Obviously, you might worry I'm collecting your addresses, I assure you I'm not, but if you are worried, don't use it.

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I can host this if you want, looks like a really useful tool

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That's not the issue, I've put it up here: https://cableforum.rtho.me/

It was just never really designed for public use and might not scale well.

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That Better Internet Dashboard map thing doesn't like my Post Code. I put it in and it takes me to where i am but where it should say the speeds offered by Virgin and BT the circles just swirl around and around and nothing happens lol.

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It's not really very error tolerant yet. If you didn't put a space in, try with a space.

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That site says 1 Gig is available here, just been on chat to VM and they say it’s not available yet but as I’m on M600 it will only cost me £1/month to upgrade when it is.