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It really is getting bad when a huge club like United struggle to get past a side whose wage bill for the week would struggle to pay for the first round of drinks at United bar.

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Tell that to Spurs and West Ham. :p:

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Spurs fans calling for their manager to be sacked.:rolleyes:

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Peter Kenyon sends out 47 page brochure encouraging investment in his bid for Newcastle United.

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You really could not make this up adzii as here comes another so called investor and at the end of it all nothing will have changed.

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He failed to raise the capital last time. I'm not sure what's changed.

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Nothing has changed in my view.

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How much does he require?

Only asking because I've got £8-47 stashed away that the wife doesn't know about, and with the right 'investment' that could turn into £14-23 :D

But seriously, any willing investors would be looking closely at how Ashley plays the deal to sell . . . been there before haven't we?

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£300 million plus l would say as perhaps a raid on your piggy bank might help with the down payment.:D

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£300 million plus . . . err, hang on :shocked:

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We haven't got any solid evidence on how Mike Ashley would play it. To date the only verified and negotiated bids for the club were by Amanda Staveley who was lowballing offers on a massive scale. Notably only offering 250 million. Kenyon only had £200m behind him the first time round and BZG seemingly were trolls.

Kenyon seems to be fairly focused on getting a deal done. He's persistent but as above if he's se ding brochures out to investors then nothings changed financially.

On another hand Kenyon could just be a Mike Ashley shill and trying to aid in selling the club.

I think Ashley would take staggered payments but if he doesn't it's worth noting that a £350m lump deal would be the biggest takeover in English football. That puts it into perspective how difficult a deal may be.

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Kenyon and GACP submit £300m bid for Newcastle United. To be paid in 3 installments. Financed the same way the Glazers financed Man United.

I'll pass thanks. Better the devil you know. We're desperate but not that desperate.

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That says everything adzii.

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Not looking good for Newcastle with a player sent off now.

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This performance should get the price down a few quid. :(

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Perhaps adzii can buy a few shares then.;)

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Good grief how did the linesman put his flag up for a goal that was 2 yards onside.:td:

Thank god for VAR.:tu:

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Officials very poor the whole game. Better from United, gifted them a goal, their keeper made a couple of great saves. A draw flattered Arsenal.

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Indeed the referee was very average for starters and how the linesman can make a clear mistake like that beggars belief.

So not happy with a point Jim?.

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Their keeper made two or three saves that on another day would have gone in, given Uniteds recent form I suppose a draw is better than nothing but I thought they just about deserved to win that one.

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Are you happy with Ole though? or do you think Uniteds problem go much deeper then the manager.?

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If you read my posts from before he got the job you will see that I was never in the ‘give him the job now’ camp. I said at the time they should have waited until the end of the season as per the original agreement. That said he is not directly responsible for all the dead wood and deserves a shot at sorting it out. Things will never be properly sorted as long as the Glazers are in charge imho.:(

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And sadly the Glazers could be in charge for a long time yet as l am just glad we got rid of Hicks and Gillett when we did.

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Racism looks like it rears its ugly head yet again...

https://www.skysports.com/football/n...rlton-vs-leeds

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Stunning new skill from Bruges forward, pretend to stumble then dink it in......twice.:D

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They say managers should never return to a former club.

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Tottenham Hotspur are falling apart in front of our very eyes.:(

All is not right at Tottenham Hotspur?.

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Not just Spurs though is it, a few of the 'big' clubs are failing spectacularly in the early stages of this season.

Are we seeing the likes of more Stoke/Sunderland/Ipswich (to name a few) scenarios where the tumble is far from gracious?

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Somehow don’t see that happening. With the exception of Man City who were a yo-yo club before the oil money, the rest of the ‘so called ‘ big six plus Everton have never been relegated from the Premiership. Stoke, Sunderland and Ipswich are small clubs in comparison, yes even Sunderland.

I haven’t checked back but I will wager the last time any of Chelsea, Liverpool, Spurs, Arsenal, Everton or Man United where not in the top division was in 1974 when United went down, over 45 years ago.

The infrastructure of those clubs is way above anything that Stoke, Sunderland or Ipswich have ever had.

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Man United need to get rid of the Glazers or else their fall from the elite top table will get worse , Spurs have not really progressed from the peak of last season nor have they strengthened their squad enough IMO , Arsenal well until they get a decent defence and resolute midfield they will remain among the also rans and finally Chelsea are in transition.

Man City and Liverpool are a fair way ahead at the moment l would say.

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l bit early for that l would say.

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Crikey you go back further then me.:D

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Absolutely.

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I think I have seen more managers/coaches given yellow cards in last two days than in many a year.:confused:

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They obviously think that some managers/coaches are stepping over the limit with their behaviour lately.

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Spurs deepening crisis is getting a whole lot worse....

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It's alright Jose there might be a big club vacancy in the coming days.:D

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Typical England conceding a goal just after they score one.:(

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Well played the Czech Republic. The Premiership lightweights weren't up for.it. Wales would have thrashed them though ;)

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A appalling performance at times by England..:(:td:

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Repeating myself, Southgate is crap. It doesn't take a top pundit to work that out.

He's mismanging a potential golden era of the England national team. Got England to a semi final of a World Cup. A semi final wed have expected to get to with Steve McClaren had you known the fixtures in advance. Losing on 3 occasions to teams of equal stature and only beating those we were expecting to beat. It was hardly the monumental achievement he's gotten the credit for.

Remember the time Di Matteo won the champions league and turned out to be an awful manager?

Southgate out, Wenger, Jose or Benitez in.

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And do you think the incompetent FA are going to do that?

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Nah. Like others, they leave everything till its too late. Then we spend another 5 or so years playing the same fiddle to get back near the top. No ones got the bottle to make the change when the team is still relatively near the top.

Well unless you're Man City or Madrid who will happily cut a manager regardless.

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Well l certainly don't think Zidane's much heralded return to Real Madrid is going to end well as there is a old saying in football and that is never go back to the same club again as a manager.

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Quite a good goal by young Marcus ... He has potential , just needs to find a decent team to play for ;)

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Always the sourpuss l see Mr K.;)

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Sadly racism has reared its ugly head again during the first half.:(:td:

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Is the motive racism though? Or is it just simply trying to put the players off? I'm pretty sure white players(eg Rooney, Beckham) have had abuse thrown at them, and the motive will have been trying to put them off playing.

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What else can the motive behind their taunts be as racism is racism.

Racist taunts in my view are more likely to inspire a player rather then put them off as abuse of any sort is very disappointing to hear on a sporting pitch or within wider society.

FIFA and UEFA need to start issuing more harsher punishments or it will just continue unabated.

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So what was the motive behind taunts aimed at white players? What are the motives for "sledging" in Cricket?

If the players are really not that bothered by the taunts, then why are they complaining? If they were really not that bothered they would rise above it, and the taunts would end up being a pointless ezercise.

Compare with the programme on BBC1 last night, "Hindus: Do We Have a Caste Problem?", where taunts were used by people's fellow Hindu work colleagues.

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Taunts aimed at white players are not based on their skin colour, nor are they compared to other primates with monkey chants.

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But they are both still aimed at putting the player(s) off. What taunts should they be using instead, that might have the intended result? The options are limited.

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Sadly I don’t think for one minute the racist chants of the Bulgarian fascists are intended to simply ‘put the players off’ . The facist salutes, the flags and slogans all point to something far more sinister than simple goading of the opposition or sledging.

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Well traditionally you out sing the other supporters eg. 'come on Rovers', thereby inspiring your players and subduing theirs. Monkey chants have an equal chance of inspiring those they are aimed at, as it did. They were probably right wing juvenile nationalists with no interest in football - same demographic we've had issues with over the years, but we've moved on.

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If the chants are racist to put the players off, they’re still racist chants - not sure what you’re defending here?

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A interesting article on the Glazer family at Man Utd.

https://www.theguardian.com/football...ited-liverpool

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And another interesting article on real Man United fans.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football...have-fans-not/

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Well they are certainly not fair-weather supporters as l always think one supports a club through thick and thin and equally through success and failure.

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Barcelona v Real Madrid called off following unrest in Catalonia.

https://www.theguardian.com/football...-date-football

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Is this the much vaunted non league football that MrK is always championing.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/50114848

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Sadly it does not matter what pyramid of football it is as its just another depressing example of racism and prejudice which as we know is endemic in certain parts of European football but sadly is just as endemic here in the football pyramid.

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Trouble is Yeovil are recently ex football league and have bought their neanderthals with them.

I on the other hand enjoyed an excellent FACup tie, its always good to win away and be in the First Round Proper :)

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Football is very quickly heading (no pun intended) towards games being played behind closed doors, with TV rights being the winner.

They won't even need refs and linesmen (sorry, line persons) because VAR is proving to be so successful :rolleyes:

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Let's face the crowds are unecessary, and could be CGI'd in. Or maybe live feeds from folks on their sofa...

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. . yeah, a sort of 'football gogglebox' type show, 37 people crowded at one end of the room, drinking beer and swearing :D

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Its strange how VAR works far better in European football but alas when it comes to Britain we make a complete pigs ear of it..

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A draw just about the right result today, a much better performance made Liverpool look quite ordinary for most of the game. Some tired legs in last 20 minutes but overall a big improvement.

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Well not losing is an improvement, I'll give you that ;). As for tired legs, professionals or overpaid lightweights?

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We were poor today so a point is a point gained rather then points lost.

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Its a short career old boy with no guarantee of a decent living when they finish their career.

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When you have less than 35% possession you do tend to have to run about a bit. Also constant fouling can slow you down, check out the fouls against stat. ;)

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If you're a Premiership footballer you'll never need to work again.

Granted, in semi-pro football it's a real dilemma whether to go full time or not, particularly if they already have a good career. It's a big risk.

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The Premiership represents a small percentage compared to most footballers in the football pyramid.

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What about the Championship , League one , League two as they are not on millionaire wages as one of our ex players is a taxi driver and l am sure most players in those divisions have to work to make a living as not much of the cash filters down there Mr K.

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The yellow peril that is Mike Dean strikes again, 9 yellows tonight. What a huge contrast to Martin Atkinson at Old Trafford yesterday in a game that was as equally contested as this, only one yellow card.:(

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I hope Lacazette feels as big a wally as he looked when he views that appalling simulation.:mad:

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Is Julian still behind the sofa? :shocked:

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We wuz robbed :rofl:

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Was it that bad Julian.:shocked::p:

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:cleader::cleader::LOL::PP:

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It's been coming for ages.

The club is badly run, mismanaged and all the money has been systematically drained by greedy owners.

Still apparently everything is wonderful because we beat a league one side 4-0 :rolleyes::mad::td:

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l certainly know what you mean by poor owners as look at Hicks and Gillett at Liverpool as thankfully we got rid of those two frauds and replaced them with owners who for a few years now have made some very good decisions based on sound forward thinking advice.

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Been there, done that, survived and back on the rise with proper owners & investors at the helm :)

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Dear me, United have missed two penalties in first half.:(

What are the odds on Norwich getting 2 or even 3 in second half.

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Complete shambles at Arsenal today.

Performance terrible.
The crowd cheering Xhaka's subsituation was poor as was his reaction to it.

But VAR is awful. We were celebrating the goal for a while, then the dread came in as the kick off wasn't happening, only then does 'GOAL CHECK' appear on the screen. We're not told anything. Suddenly the ref is walking back to their goal with the ball and the crowd is dumbfounded. No explanation. Game continues.

On reflection the decision was not a 'clear mistake' as well. The crowd is just empty and quiet, it kills the atmosphere and the game.

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Just watched the highlights from United v Norwich game , both penalties not given by ref but VAR. Have to say that although you shouldn't jump up with your arm in front of you in the area I thought both decisions were a little harsh. Both a long, long way from stonewall pens.

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They add to mic up the refs and also have it explained to us in the stadium what's happening.

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Ole himself has said he did think the first one for the tackle on James was not a pen, and if they take over 2 minutes to decide then how could it be a ‘clear and obvious’ mistake. He did also point out that Tim Krul was miles off his line on both pens but that now seems to have be totally ignored and overlooked. :confused:

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Stunning free kick from Rashford. Just seen the draw, David James did Manchester a big favour.

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Indeed it was a wonderful goal that is for sure although mind you there were quite a few good ones at Anfield last night.;)

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And some woeful defending.;)

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Give them a chance as they had only just met in the local Youth club down the road.;)

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With the average age of both Chelsea and United last night as well it could almost be the Youth Cup.

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Exactly as there certainly is if nurtered correctly some great young talent coming through.

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Time runs out for Nathan Jones at Stoke

https://www.stokecityfc.com/news/201...lub-Statement/

Stoke City have today parted company with manager Nathan Jones with immediate effect.

Assistant manager Paul Hart and first team coach Joaquin Gomez have also left the bet365 Stadium.

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Sadly its been on the cards for weeks given their poor run of results

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Oops, anyone else see the Last Post bugle player just before kick off at Bournemouth. He had forgotten to take a cloth out of his bugle and it flopped out as he started to blow.:D

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Yes a few duff notes too, not the best performance ! Guess it's not an easy thing to do in the rain.

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Clear handball from Alli, tackle from Son was a bit late and careless but it was hardly a yellow card never mind a straight red.

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I have to disagree Jim.

These so called top sides press high up the pitch. When their opponents break away it now seems standard practice to do whatever is necessary to stop the break.

Some muppets call it taking one for the team.

It is a blight on the game and needs stamping out.

Son deliberately tripped Gomes and the eest is history.

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l agree but there are no excuses for the abuse that he has faced as Son was very upset by what happened to Gomes with regards to his very serious injury.

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Well the FA quite rightly agree with me. ;)

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/50309594

50% of the time that tackle would not have even got a yellow cand.

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Well l do need to remind you that the FA's track record of often getting their decisions wrong is again at work here Jim.;)

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Judging from most of the comments from the Everton side I would suggest that they are of the same mind as me.

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Good grief 3 minutes gone at Stamford Bridge and there is already two goals including a cast iron penalty.;)

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VAR is meant to review red cards re: Son. It didn't.

How can you implement a solid VAR system when the people reviewing it are as embarrassingly bad as the referees they're correcting.

Horrible start to the VAR PL era. The world cup didn't exactly paint it in a good light either. The human error is still there and now it's just worse because it's publicised way more via VAR.

Also worth noting it's for spotting a clear and obvious error. A blatant offside. A dive etc. Not when someone's armpit is 5cm offside. :erm: Both by Martin Atkinson.