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Well given America's record with electing political family dynasties he could be very dangerous for the Republicans IMO.

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Not sure, just because he is from the Kennedy family line, doesn’t mean automatic run to the White House. Ted Kennedy, brother of President John F. Kennedy, addressed President Ronald Reagan’s State of Union Address in 1982, that didn’t stop President Reagan, winning a landslide on the 1984 ticket.

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With the Democrats in such a desperate state, you could be right.


JFK tried to get rid of secret societies; the current term being; Deep State, Shadow Government and Swamp, i.e. The New World Order Globalists. He tried to do what Trump is doing now.


Anyway, one of the political family dynasties should hopefully be gone relatively soon; The Clintons.

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Which ones - The Illuminati, the Freemasons, the Fourth Reich, the Zionists, The Reptilian Shapeshifters, The Bilderberg Group, the Neo-Cons, The Trilateral Commission, or the Roman Catholic Church?

I wish they would just work together to create one Super New World Order, as they seem unable to co-ordinate their efforts... ;)

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:rofl:

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Are you a supporter of the New World Order, where a bunch of rich, unelected people set laws for the whole world. Kind of like the EU want to do when we have left, but on a smaller European scale? It is your right to believe in that system.

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No, I am not.

But you have to admit, they aren’t very good at this "World Domination" thing, considering they have been at it for nearly a century...

Are you a supporter/believer of the evangelicals dispensational pre-millennialism End Times narrative?

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You're forgetting Hugh, their plans have been foiled! The Americans elected the one thing the elites hate: A 70 year old billionaire with a property empire. Not to mention the humble President likes to spend his time at a private members golf course, they're never going to be able to get to him there. How would they afford the $200,000 per year membership fee? (In matters completely unrelated to Trump being President it doubled from $100,000 last year).

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Don't call them 'elites', Damien. They are full of themselves already - we don't want to encourage them!

Dictionary definition:

Elite

a select group that is superior in terms of ability or qualities to the rest of a group or society.

I prefer the word 'establishment' but 'pompous idiots' would also do! :D

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It's been longer than that; Sir Francis Bacon, who admitted that he contacted fallen angels was a believer in Atlantis, and wanted America to be the new Atlantis, along with 33degre Scottish Rite Masons; the same Masons, who still, today, pray for the spirit of Osiris, an Egyptian god, to enter the President whilst he is being inaugurated as President of the USA


As I've said before, at the current time, you can see the building blocks being put in place [/QUOTE]


"Are you a supporter/believer of the evangelicals dispensational pre-millennialism End Times narrative?" Wow, which article/text book did you find that in ;) Way to complicate things!


Lets make it simple . I believe in the End Time Prophecies in the Bible. I believe they will all happen.


At some point the True Believers in Jesus will be raptured to meet Jesus in the air, proceeded by dead in Christ. and go to their heavenly residence. And 'The Restrainer' of the devil will be removed.


The prophesised wars will happen; Psalm 83, The Gog-May Gog war Ezekiel 38-39 in which Nuclear weapons will be used.


At some point, the Antichrist will arrive, with his Sidekick, the false profit, and take over the world government (This is my speculation but a common one, that there will be some kind of world disaster; the world will cry out for a saviour and up will pop the Antichrist who will fix it; not difficult really, because his boss, the Devil, created it.


The Antichrist will facilitate a seven year covenant with Israel and the third Temple will be built.


Half way through the covenant, the Antichrist breaks it, decimates the temple and declares himself to be God. The whole World attacks Israel and the Jewish people, are so persecuted (2 thirds killed) that with the help of 144000 Jewish converts they call on the name of Jesus. Armageddon happens, Jesus wins And rules on earth for the next millennium.


Re the Mark of the Beast Revelation 13, Those who take it can never be saved. The ones that do refuse, will be decapitated but be saved. The latter are known as the Tribulation Saints

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Decapitated but saved ? Not much of a consolation imho....

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Well, the other option is judgement and hell. Take your pick

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Mmmm, still think I'd go for judgement rather than decapitation. Call me picky....

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These guys are experts on the subject; I'll let them explain.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJy_4TRyxaA&t=5s

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Then the best way to delay it is to support Trump and Brexit.... that is why they have so much opposition; they are delaying the establishment of a world government.

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Best get my to tin foil hat out then !

Trump is a loony and Brexit is a bad idea, that's why they have so much opposition.

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Yet in both cases, their support outweighs their opposition :erm:.

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When I click thru, and I see on the right hand side of the YouTube page other videos by these people including -

The Vatican and Aliens
Fallen Angels Chained Beneath The Streets Of Rome
The Shocking Truth Why Pope Benedict Resigned Unedited that was banned on YouTube (but strangely is on YouTube)
Demonology 101 - Giants and God's Wrath
Skywatch TV - Werewolves
LTC Bob McGinnis - Witchcraft in Washington
Combating Satanic Superheroes Teaching Alien Doctrines
FBI Raids Clinton Death Factory
and for some strange algorithmic reason, Justin Timberlake does Michael Jackson's "Shake your body on to the ground" :confused:

Upon seeing these, my "BATSHIT CRAZY CRAZY ALERT :Yikes:" alarm goes off. These people start off from an unproven number of premises, then build a tower of crazy on top of the unfounded stupidity.

If you are using these people to back up your argument, I'm sorry, but these people are batshit crazy loons, who believe in Pizzagate - you lessen, if not completely destroy, your credibility by using these people as sources.

Have you ever considered that the True NWO is behind all these conspiracy theorists, to distract people and divert their attention from what they are really doing?

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Did I point you to the Videos on the side? No! The one I directed you to was by Bible believing Christians scholars that I trust. I would never post a link to any video I haven't seen my self. Why not just watch the one I referenced you to?

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The guys in the advertorial video you suggested to Hugh also made those on the right-hand panel.

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They may have done, but The video I referred Hugh to was specific to the topic that was being discussed; Shadow and deep state government.


It wasn't about the Pope and aliens, which is a story in itself which should concern people, but it is not relevant for this thread.


I'd feel confident about any video by Tom Horn and Skywatch TV, but never link to it unless I had watched it myself.

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Because they are videos by the people in the linked video, so if you send me to a restaurant because the pizza is good, and I find on the menu fricasseed rats intestines, poached baby seal, sauteed dogs heads, and other weird stuff, it's unlikely that I will order the pizza...

Also, when the participants are these people, who issue stuff like -

Tom Horn Bob McGinnis has videos about Witchcraft in Washington, Occult Secret Societies, and how multiple "prophecies" are coming to a head.

(Rev) Carl Gallups repeated the total bull that the Sandy Hook school massacre was fake, and everyone involved were actors, including the grieving parents who appeared on TV, is a Young Earth Creationist, and he also said Obama was the Anti-Christ (and is still is a prominent Birther, recently saying that the CIA forged Obama's birth certificate).

Sorry, but if people like this are your basis for credibility, Mr. Credibility has not just gone and left the building, he's applied for an Australian Visa and has caught and A380 to Sydney.

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PB lost credibility as soon as he started quoting from the bible in the belief it was truth.

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And I still believe it is

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Ephesians 6:12

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:dozey:

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Carl Gallups denies that he ever said that:


http://www.carlgallups.com/carltube/fakenews.html

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Quote:

Detestable Practices

Jesus spent much of his ministry casting out demons. Bob McGinnis is spot on. Apparently, every time there is a Presidential inauguration, there is a bunch of 33degre Scottish Rite Freemasons praying for the spirit of the Egyptian god, Osiris to enter the President.


The trouble is that most of the modern day church have left the massive amount of supernatural spirituality that the Bible clearly talks about, out.

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Luke 6:31-36

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Re Gallups it’s on record.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...-happened.html
Re demons, in those days, and up until the Middle Ages, people believed many sicknesses were caused by demons - we, of course, know better nowadays.

Jesus also spoke out about the evils of the love of money over their fellow man, but I don’t see Gallups et al focusing on that...

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Uber rich, powerful and greedy people collaborating however loosely, by hook or by crook, to protect their long term interests and subdue the masses??? Nah, can't happen... I'm sure they'll all be sitting at home doing nothing waiting for the revolutionaries to knock at their doors just like all their predecessors who were shot, lynched...

:rolleyes:

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Sorry Hugh, no offence meant, but I'll trust Gallups' testimony over the Telegraph article; (horses mouth etc.) And, without question, the Bible over you, regarding demonic activity still happening today :)

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Trump, Kushner, De Vos, Mnuchin, Tillertson, Ross, Cohn, etc., all in Government, with the Trump Cabinet worth $4.3 billion. People from Equity Funds, Hedge Funds, Goldman Sachs, Property Developers, etc..

https://www.forbes.com/sites/chasewi.../#58dbda095dfc

And with the Leader of the House Republicans receiving around $500,000 in Campaign Funds from the billionaire Koch Brothers, just after the Tax Cuts bill was passed, you could have a point...

https://www.snopes.com/kochs-contrib...yan-after-tax/

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No Hugh, nothing to see here, oh look there's Crooked Hillary! ;)

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So, she's hiding out with you! A lady from Fox News went looking for her yesterday, in Hillary's own town; even tried the woods! I recon you're a shoe in for Bilderberg this year, maybe even Bohemian Grove! ;):D

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Actually, it was a couple of weeks ago... ;)

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BREAKING: JUST in. Deputy FBI Director Andrew McCabe Resigns his post, he leaves in March but is on Leave until then.

This could due to the fact that the U.S House Intelligence Committee is due to vote on releasing the GOP Intelligence Memo later today.

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Correction. There are reports he has been removed from his post and placed on terminal leave.

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Enough already! Can we drop all this medieval mumbo jumbo rubbish? It is scaring off the visitor(s) :)

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My word, passingbat. Multi-headed beasts, fallen angels, demonic activity, saving people by decapitation. Sounds like Game of Thrones.

I'm not sure what you are on, but can I have some?

Let's get back to President Trump, which is what this thread is all about.

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So...

House Republicans will release the Nunes Memo, but they won’t release the underlying intelligence, and they won’t release the counterpoint memo.

So there's no way to validate Nunes' memo - in other words, we just have to take Devin Nunes word for what Devin Nunes said.

Sounds legit...

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It is legit, it's been compiled not just by Devin Nunes.. The U.S Inspector General handed over a ton of information to congress a few weeks ago, to help fill in the missing pieces. His report is forthcoming.

The Democrat Counter Memo has not been seen by anybody in the House except by some Democrats, and quite rightly it's been blocked, Shifty Adam Schiff, is in panic mode. I expect his counter memo will be leaked like everything else does, to keep the Russian collusion narrative going on Trump.

Cue the *******s at NYT or WaPo or CNN getting their hands on it, anything to counter the House Intel Memo. Why are they even making a counter memo?

Because they are about to witness a shit storm of information being released that will highly likely put the Democrats in a very bad light, this information is likely to show FISA Abuses under the Obama Administration.

That tweet last year when Trump said, Obama had him wire tapped, he wasn't far wrong. He and his campaign team was allegedly being targeted by an illegal FISA Warrant, just after the U.S Election, NSA Mike Rogers went to Trump Tower and told President-Elect Trump that he and his team was being spied on and Trump and his transition team moved out of Trump Tower, New York and went to his New Jersey property.

So this 4 Page Memo by the Majority panel on the House Intel, may show that it was the Democrats who were the real Russian collusion party during the U.S Election all along. The Democratic National Committee and Crooked Hillary campaign are said to have paid for the Steele Russian Dossier and then handed it to the FBI, they are also have said to have paid Steele.

The Memo will likely show the Mueller investigation is literally based on this unverified Dossier.

This is why the Democrats are kicking up a big fuss, it is in their political interest to keep the Russian collusion story alive. Yet so far, after over a year of investigations, no evidence of any collusion by the Trump campaign has been found. Two people who were in Trumps inner circle, Manafort and Flynn, have been indicted on charges totally unrelated to any Russian collusion.

It is no coincidence that the FBI Director, Christopher Wray reads the Classified House Intel over the weekend, come Monday, the Deputy FBI Director, McCabe is forced out of his job, weeks before he was due to leave.

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BREAKING: Democratic National Committee CEO Resigns just less than a year in post.

http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign...ss-than-a-year

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The memo isn't the same thing as an unbiased report though. Hence Hugh saying release the whole thing, not just the Republican angle on it.

I don't see how you can be angry that the Republican memo was being blocked and think it's entirely right that the Democrat one is.

Just apply the same standards across the board.

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You mean call all the Republicans petty names too - so it makes you look slightly less playground like.

Cheers

Dave

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Shure; it's called the Bible.

This is the best explanation of the Nephilim and their implication in the end times, that I've come accros.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9IspWwhwqfk&t=263s

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Why don't you start a new thread on Christian fundamentalism? I cannot see how this relates to President Trump & the U.S Election 2016 Investigation ?

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My replies are to people that ask things that are require a Biblical answer, such as Hugh's question:


Originally Posted by Hugh https://www.cableforum.uk/board/imag...s/viewpost.gif
Are you a supporter/believer of the evangelicals dispensational pre-millennialism End Times narrative?

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Was the bit about 'Scottish Rite Freemasons praying for the spirit of the Egyptian god, Osiris to enter the President' in the Bible ?

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Demonic activity and spiritual warfare is is; and that is an example.

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Whose angry?

I’m not. The Republican Memo isn’t blocked. The Democrat one rightfully is, it’s not been through the same processes, it’s partisan, unlike the House Intel one being bipartisan. They are suppose to work together.

I have told you, I do not trust the Democrats, given that it is them who have behaved in a disgusting way during the Election, weaponised the DOJ/FBI in Hillary’s favour and then treated the opposing candidate with disdain, indicted people for telling lies to the FBI, when Hillary did same under oath during a congressional testimony and nothing happened to her.

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^ I agree with this.

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You could be right, there is certainly something demonic about Trump. Do you think those pesky Scottish Freemasons (and their Egyptian friend Osiris) have taken possession of the President ?

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Back on topic. Now please, any more off topic ones will be deleted!

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Interestingly, this report could mean that that parts of the Steele dossier - criticised by Trump’s fans - may have been corroborated by Shearer’s independent research.

Memo written by former journalist Cody Shearer independently sets out some of the allegations made by ex-spy Christopher Steele

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Fake News. You’re so cold Andrew. There were two Dossiers, both Fake, created to back one another up. No expense spared by the DNC by looks of it, only one thing wasn’t suppose to happen for it all to be exposed. Trump won.

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But the Republican one is also partisan. This wasn't a jointly agreed memo covering the contents of their intelligence briefings, it's an opinionated memo which the Democrats dispute.

You don't trust the Democrats so imagine if the Democrats were releasing their memo covering the intelligence but blocking the underlying report and the Republican one. This is the same thing, just the other way around.

I think that's perfectly healthy. I don't get why you trust the Republicans so much though.

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The House Intel Memo was written by Devon Nunes’ staffers - no Democrats were involved. In fact, they didn’t know about it until he announced it mid-January (having spent a number of months putting it together).

In a letter to Nunes last week, the Trump-appointed DoJ Assistant Attorney General Stephen Boyd said Also https://www.theatlantic.com/politics...s-memo/551825/

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I trust neither and I'm no fan of the Clintons. But if I just read Republican tweets, White House press releases and videos and viewed Fox News and some alt-right websites I would have a hard job to think independently and it would not be long before I too would trust the Republicans and Trump in particular without hesitation.

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Sorry that you've been duped, Mick. It sounds like it wasn't as unbiased as you were led to believe.

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Only the Democrats are rightfully in the minority, so they were unable to block it. Being in the majority, the Republicans rightfully blocked the Counter Memo because it is a rush job to counter the original.

I’m surprised you have to ask,

Because the Democrats put forward a Crooked candidate who rigged the primaries by getting the questions to the debate and now it looks like that wasn’t the only rigging they did.

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The House Intel Memo was not just written just by Nunes at all. You are Wrong. He is getting credit for it because he is the House Select Committee of Intelligence Chairman. The Intel was gathered in by bipartisan hearings.

And I couldn’t give a shit what General Stephen Boyd said. Irrelevant. :rolleyes:

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I didn’t say Nunes wrote it - I said his staffers wrote it; no Democrats were involved in the writing of it.

How is it irrelevant what a Republican Assistant Attorney General, who used to work for Jeff Sessions, and who was appointed by Trump, says - he can’t be accused of being biased towards the Democrats.

He is the liaison between the DoJ and Congress - it is his job to advise on things like this.

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I didn't ask why you didn't trust the Democrats, I asked why you trust the Republicans so much. If the Republicans say something it's fact here. It doesn't matter what anyone else says, if a Trump or the Republicans say something you say here as if it were gospel. Same with this memo.

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That may be so, but I’d like see it in black and white, the who, when and where. Transparency essential, because it’s been Russia Russia Russia for a long time, with no actual evidence found, when all along, the scandals were being done via FBI, DNC and Crooked Hillary campaign.

Btw, I want to see the Democrat Memo. Some Republican Congressionals have read it, said it doesn’t negate what’s in the original. A few have said there is a few sourcing issues and some inaccuracies that need addressing before it’s released. It will probably get leaked though knowing the Democrats.

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Sounds like you have different standards of evidence for Republicans and Democrats?

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I certainly do, the Democrats I don’t trust, I thought I said that already.

(Given their rigging behaviours in the election). They are going get burned in this memo by all accounts.

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Looks like your wish may be granted:

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That's referring to the Republican memo.

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Oops. my bad.:blush:

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state of the union speech


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XuJhzY87NhA

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Not that I am a believer of polls but they put his speech in favourable standing...

CNN Poll. 70% Approval (Yes a CNN poll)
CBS Poll. 75% Approval

The Democrats showed themselves for who they were last night, did not stand when various achievements had been met, booed at times when Trump was telling stories of murdered kids by illegal immigrants. America will remember that in the Midterms later this year and in 2020. The looks on Sanders, Schumer and Pelosi's face said it all, what a pathetic set of shills the Dems are.

Then the next embarrassing thing for them was Joe Kennedy III, standing in front of a car, not sure that was a wise idea, given the scandal with his Uncle Ted Kennedy, appearing to drool while giving the Democrats response, he kept having to pause and take a breath. He may be from the Kennedy family, but he ain't no JFK.

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Crikey! More corruption being dug up in Trump's ever-churning administration and no it's not of the Russian flavour! This time it's Brenda Fitzgerald who's been caught out buying shares in a tobacco company, despite her job being to reduce smoking!

“It’s like a Mormon elder buying and selling stocks in whiskey,” said Richard Painter, who served as the chief White House ethics lawyer during the presidency of George W Bush. “It’s just fundamentally contrary to being a doctor. It shows no fundamental understanding of conflicts of interest.”
https://www.ft.com/content/84a907f0-...0-9c0ad2d7c5b5

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Bit like when the pro tobacco Ken Clarke was made Health minister, smoking his cigars and swilling his pints !
He later went into the tobacco industry and the NHS has been sick ever since.

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Or pious Christian Reece Mogg going on tv preaching about being anti abortion whilst he invests in a company that produces abortion capable pills, I thought someone round here would have exposed him for that level of hypocrisy by now

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Wasn't this a case of him owning units of a fund which itself owned shares in a company which produced the pills?

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-42894292 I am sure Republicans will just see this as more FBI bias.

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Why? Is the FBI not allowed to defend itself and bring forward evidence proving anything in the memo is inaccurate?

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Not if the information is classified no.

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If that's the case a bit stupid to be going public with anything then.

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From the link I believe their concern is that by making the memo public, it will compromise how, and who from, some of the intelligence has been collected (sources and capabilities), thus making it unlikely those sources would ever provide further information.Also, the FBI believe the memo does not provide a full picture - it is using a sub-set of the info to provide a slanted picture.

Re the sources/capabilities, an example of this from my personal experience is that we (the RAF and USAF) used to send up SR71s to tool up and down the East German border (in the 70s and 80s, and this is common knowledge now, no longer classified) to measure the response not only of the Sov Air Force, but also to monitor their radar, radio traffic, and ground to air Elint - if they had known we were doing this, it would have diminished our Sigint collection capabilities.

A previous example is this -

https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/...ship-1.5473028

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BREAKING: Special Counsel, Robert Mueller Postpones Sentencing trial for Michael Flynn. Also, FISA Abuse Memo to be released by the Whitehouse later today, President Trump has Executive power to declassify any classified Document.

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No it’s not. The Memo will be declassified by Trump, he has that Executive Privilege. The Memo will be highly critical of the behaviours of some top level FBI officials in the run up to the Election in the U.S.

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The Republicans who wrote the partisan memo hadn’t seen the classified information it’s allegedly based on, and Republicans on the Committee voted against allowing the committee to see the information.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/ampht...67e_story.html Also, Trump hadn’t seen the memo when he said he was keen to see it’s release.

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I think if they're going to release the memo they should then allow the underlying materials to be released, at least to the rest of the House.

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Why does Trump tweet things that can be easily be proved incorrect?

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...3&d=1517495057

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...4&d=1517495057

https://www.statista.com/statistics/...iewer-numbers/

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This seems ominous.

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Because he is a serial liar?

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I don't think he's that clever, which only leaves one conclusion.....

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. . . the Russians manipulated the viewing figures? :D

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Fake News!

It’s all a Democrats plot - the FBI, NSA, CIA, DIA, ONI, NRO, and all the other agencies in the Intelligence Community have gone back in time and changed the viewing figures! ;)

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I bet the Democrats really would like to go back in time, change their candidate choice and try not rig an Election, while at same time, corrupt one of the top law Enforcement in the World, the FBI and then get caught doing so later down the line.

The Original House Intel Memo will be released tomorrow, unredacted.

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Democrat Adam Schiff is clearly in panic mode, who is doing his best to try and stop the truth coming out about his own party trying to steal an election. He is kicking up a huge stink, but he can do what he wants, the memo is being declassified and released tomorrow. The edits were minor grammatical error corrections.

Two top level FBI chiefs are said to have read the Memo earlier in the week and found no inaccuracies regarding the Intelligence gathered in it.

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Would this be the same FBI that re-opened the Clinton investigation 11 days before the election, then 9 days later announced there was nothing new or incriminating about the purportedly new information?

The only corruption has been the Republicans debasing their once great party by making false accusations to muddy the waters around Trump - they used to be the party of law and order, now they are just the party if Trump.

The"two top level FBI chiefs" are not happy, which is why they said was It was a Republican who said the FBI chiefs didn’t have a problem, not the FBI chiefs - that statement was as accurate as most of the things they have said.

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Absolute bollocks Hugh.

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Why did they object so strongly then?

Incidentally it seems their concerns are 1) the release of the intelligence and 2) it's being released out of context and, since they cannot release classified intelligence, they can't respond.

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There is no false accusations, only the truth and we will get to know just how Crooked folk were under Obama Administration....

Go do your usual trick of googling, go search on Deputy FBI Director Andrew McCabe sitting on Clinton Emails on Weiners laptop for weeks until after the election. The story is in WaPo before you claim it’s on Fox News.

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No it is not out of context.

Who do you think has released these text message of these biased agents?

These have come from Inspector General and he is politically neutral.

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What about the different stories coming from the Republicans and the FBI about the memo?

The Republicans say the FBI are happy with the memo, the FBI are saying they are very unhappy with the memo - are the FBI lying?

Those biased agents who also sent critical messages about Clinton, or the biased agent who wrote the first draft of Comey’s letter which re-opened the Clinton investigation 11 days before the election?

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018...n-reports.html

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But you only never accept 'the truth' from Republicans. Surprisingly it seems that the Republicans and Trump and beyond reproach and the Democrats, Justice Department, the entirety of the media, the FBI/CIA/NSA and even Trump's own appointments are crooked and corrupt liars.

I think it's all rather pointless debating because it's a matter of faith at this point as there is nothing that would change your mind.

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You don't know that. You haven't seen the memo and even if you did you haven't see the underlying intelligence. How could you possibly know nothing is out of context? This is what I mean about it being a matter of faith....

And I am entirely willing to believe there was some bias from the FBI is that's what the evidence shows. I suspect it will show some hence the excitement from Republicans about the memo. However I am not sure it will show a giant conspiracy from Obama downwards. I also don't see it being enough to halt the Muller investigation since the whole point of the Special Prosecutor is to take this out of the FBI.

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So you're taking the word of the Democrats because they are the ones who are saying it's out of context ?

They are bound to say that, the accusations that are said to be in it, put's them in a very bad light. As I have said previously, tons worse than Watergate, and Watergate started out as a botched burglary at the end of the day.

What will be in that Memo tomorrow will be one of the biggest scandals to hit America for a long time.

Forget about Russian collusion, there is absolutely no evidence of any of it, it's a false flag generated by the Democrats via the paid for Fusion GPS Dossier(s) that they and the Crooked Hillary campaign paid for.

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It has nothing to do with faith, it's what's already out there and I have said repeatedly now that the DNC and Hillary campaign financially contributed to the unsubstantiated claims in a Russian Dossier... which just then happen to fall in to the laps of heavily biased FBI Agents.

Why would I want to trust a party that tried to steal an election, who also helped Hillary rob the Primaries from Bernie Sanders, they are not to be trusted at all.

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No. But then I am not suggesting that the Republican memo is blocked and the Democrat one released. I think if the Republicans are going to release such information we should see it, not just their version of it. Release it all or release none of it.

How can it be worse than Watergate if we don't know what's in it? Also Watergate itself was never the big deal. It was the cover-up that got Nixon.

What precisely are the allegations doing to be? To match Watergate I am going to haver to imagine it's that Obama ordered the bugging of the Trump campaign and then used the FBI to cover it up.

If that is the accusation then that's a big deal and the underlying intelligence will come out. Another Special Prosecutor will have to be appointed to investigate Obama and the FBI. So the Republicans, especially Nunes, will have to be pretty confident they have that because if not because if they do not then it will be found out they lied.....

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You seem to think it's a binary thing. I don't trust either of them. Thankfully I am in the UK so don't have much need to care for them other than outside interest. It's why I wouldn't be bothered if the FBI do go after Clinton again.

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I want the Democrat one released as well, some GOP Congressman say they have read it and it isn't that dissimilar from the original. Just some sourcing issues and one or two factual issues.

Btw...

This was tweeted by a GOP Congressman a few hours ago....

https://twitter.com/RepJeffDuncan/st...32462436646912

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No, I am taking the word of the Trump appointed FBI Director and the Trump appointed DoJ Assistant Attorney General.

FBI letter DoJ Assistant Attorney General

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I don’t know what the hell you’re reading but you are way behind the times. A consultation has taken place with them. The Memo is and will be accurate. I will trust it.

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I saw a good idea floated online.

Release the FISA warrant, it's a matter of record. Redact any sensitive material from it because all we need to see is if the dossier was the sole or critical piece of information used to obtain the warrant as Nunes claims or if there were other reasons/evidence provided to the court.

No need for 'he said/she said'. Let's just see it.

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BREAKING: President Trump and White House approve House Intel Memo and it's being said there is NO White House Redactions, it's heading back to Intel Committee as we speak ready to be released to the public....

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:clap:

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Yes God bless the President ! He's got the Satanists on the run :D

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It's out

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On initial viewing I don't understand why the FBI and the Democrats were so angry? It main accusation was they didn't reveal who paid for the dossier. But all the stuff about corruption or rigging isn't there?

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Are you looking at the right thing?

The information is there, it says in one paragraph, the former British Spy, Christopher Steele created the paid for dossier on behalf the Democratic National Committee and Hillary Clinton Campaign. "Steele was a long time FBI source who was paid $160,000 by the DNC and Clinton campaign."

It appears they tried to hide this financing by using the law firm Perkins Coie as a proxy payment.

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It was already known that the DNC paid for it no?