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See, we already have five members, on a quiet sunday afternoon :)

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Here is some Sunday afternoon entertainment

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JasTBbL_1U

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But those are isolated examples...

... Just like this one:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxsM3vYo3mE


:rolleyes:

#MeToo
 

May I suggest you all use the #MeToo hashtag to identify that you've been harrassed and buggered by cyclists?
I wondered why you were all so sore!:D

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I'm not anti-cyclists..just anti antisocial people who fail to behave on our roads and pavements.

#MeToo
 

#MeToo.
Especially mobility scooter riders, buggy pushers, mobile phone users, chuggers, drunks, pedestrians and motorists.

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They've all buggered you :shocked:

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Are you the real TD or a fake TD? I dunno, lately, you seem to have lost your edge :erm:.

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Another load of two wheeled idiots.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-engl...ilm-as-warning

Sadly this young lad and his family paid a price for his stupidity but there are plenty more like him and well intentioned though it is I doubt it'll be taken much notice of by the gang he was part of let alone anyone else. Our high street is plagued by idiots like this riding (often on one wheel) in and out of traffic, on the pavements, hanging onto buses etc. The police do nothing.

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upsetting scenes indeed i hope the car wasn't damaged

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The car can be repaired poor thing. There is an estate in Warrington called Chapleford which is plagued by this every day.

http://www.warringtonguardian.co.uk/...in_Chapelford/

http://www.warringtonguardian.co.uk/...police_arrive/

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Such adolescent naughtiness.

Oh, and the same applies to those thugs on bikes :D.

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4 year old mowed down by cyclist in pedestrian area.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-engl...own-by-cyclist

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Could easily have been far worse for the little lad. It's great that the police there are taking it more seriously and the idiot on wheels deserved what he got. It'll take time but slowly and surely those who choose to behave like morons on 2 wheels are going to face justice, that's if they don't kill themselves first.

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The outdoors is only safe for people like Bear Grylls. You two are right to stay at home and watch it pass by on the telly and internet.

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From the picture of the incident scene it looks like she was on a pedestrian crossing though there's no information as to the state of the lights at the time.

Let's hope she recovers.

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Well it's not the ones on the roads that frighten me. It's the twonks who ride along the designated pedestrian pavements and beach promenades that I want dealt with. They won't keep to the designated cycling routes and pavements assigned to them by the local council at my expense as a local taxpayer. One of these days they will injure and possibly kill someone because the local council don't apparently have anyone policing these routes.

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Cyclists are the scourge of the road - if not all then certainly the Lycra brigade. They go fast when you need them to go slow; they go slow when you need them to go fast; they ride two or three abreast (sometimes) just to make a point. Ugh.

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It was 4 years ago today i was crossing at a green man at George Square in glasgow whwn a daftie on a bike went tgrough the red light and nearly ràn me over. I proceeded to advise the twonk on the rules of the road and he just carried on and then got off his bike and ran after me. He swung at me and thankfully missed. I tried to chase him but he luckily got back on his bike and rode off

Cyclists are total idiots. I think the worst offenders now are the Uber eats people. They do not care about anything or anyone, not even their own safety.

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In my experience, the designated cycling routes are congested with pedestrians (and/or cars). And cyclists pay tax too you know.

You regard cyclists as a scourge for not complying with your rules? Bit selfish of you. Also 2/3 abreast - that'll be about the width of the car you're traveling in, going too fast and polluting as you go. You are a scourge.

You had a little spat with a nutter who had a bike 4 years ago.....good grief man, let it go.

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That incident happened 4 years ago but it still happens at least once a week with cyclists going through red lights while I am crossing or delivery bikes behaving like they are on a downhill mountain bike run.

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Really? Every week? You're clearly an observant chap. How many times a week do you observe motorists breaking the law? I know it's OT but you like a good ol' moan eh?

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Yes every week. Glasgow is a busy place.

Also I of course observe drivers too, again many running Amber lights or red lights. I am a pedestrian and walk a lot, there for I am always watching and awareofmy surroundings. Perhaps it's my OCD or partly as I got knocked down by a careless speeding driver when I was 13.

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Well, all road users seem unhappy with their lot. (Some) motorists consider cyclists to be vermin; (most) cyclists ride defensively to survive and (the majority of) pedestrians don't like sharing space. It's all a bit tense out there. Radical change is needed; simply waiting for gridlock is a cop out.

I would have thought that Glasgow has dangers other than bikes running traffic lights ;).

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One might infer that Kursk is a cyclist to some degree of devotion. The lycra brigade to which I am referring will hold up a stream of traffic on a two way (one lane) carriage way for miles out of sheer bloody mindedness. It is no wonder that some motorists might consider such cyclists to be "vermin.

One of Boris' follies was the East-West Cycle Way Route along the Thames embankment. A huge chunk of road was commandeered for cyclists so that for two hours at the start of the working day and two hours at the end, they can ride in safety whilst ignoring traffic lights particularly at pedestrian crossings. During the rest of the day, the cycle-way is empty but displaced traffic (now one lane) crawls all the way from Westminster Bridge to Tower Hill - no reversion to motor use during the off-peak.

At Tower Hill itself, there are three or four sets of pedestrian crossing lights. Of course, many/most cyclists stop at a red light; but the ones that don't, a noticeable percentage, are a danger to pedestrians and I've seen some incidents arising out of that - and well deserved too.

On country roads, where the lycra brigade like to assert their power to thwart motorists, they are indeed a scourge and even justify the vermin handle.

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I agree, lets ban cyclists. Problem Solved. :angel:

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I used to think that cyclists should be reclassified as vermin, but then i had the chance to calm down and realised how unfair that would be to vermin ,now i think being classed as not human would suffice .

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Scourge will do.

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l am not a fan of cyclists to be perfectly honest given what l see on a regular occurrence out there all the time but typical of the rank poor planning of local authorities no wonder its a motorists/cyclists battle zone out there as there is no consistency of planning as you have a cycle lane that goes on for 200 hundred yards then there is no cycle lane and then there is one for 50 yards and then nothing and so on and so on and add that to the poor planning of many of our roads for the motorists and you can see why there is a lot of antipathy between the motorists and the cyclists.

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Near where I work there is a lot of cycle paths. Since the 2014 commonwealth games Glasgow has many cycle routes.

However I still see many cyclists either on the pavement or just on the road, they never use the specially created lanes. What a waste of money.

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I see cyclists jumping red lights in Manchester City centre every day. If you happen to be on a green and crossing the junction when they cross on red you get the middle finger from them.

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It's shocking that so many cyclists do that. Then even though they are in the wrong they harass the people in the right.

Wouldn't be that if they ran a red light straight in to the path of a car!

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No, it would be problem solved.

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:rolleyes:
:nono:
:monkey:
:dozey:
:gpoint:
:zzz:
:tired:
:dunce:

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So you can use emojis. Well done.

What a pointless post.

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Actually round here they are not. Even when there are designated separations along the cycle ways they still encroach on the pedestrian side. Also along the seafront promenades there are foot high lettering indicating that they are pedestrian only but these are blatantly ignored. and to top it off they still ride along the ordinary street pavements which they very well know are not cycle ways.

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Recounting a banal 4 year old anecdote and pronouncing all cyclists to be idiots is pointless. I responded in kind.

If there are local issues you’re not happy with, report them to the council and/or the police?

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Sadly the council are excellent at setting up regulations but lack the personnel to actually police their various decisions..and the police aren't going to be able to do much when they only have my word for what has happened. It will take injury and possibly a death before anything will be addressed. The police also have enough to do with the usual level of criminality in the area. We don't even have a regular visit from any traffic wardens to deal with the poor parking in the area let alone anyone to deal with rogue cyclists. I'm a cyclist myself but I don't behave the way these idiots do.There are more than enough designated cycle paths without them using the pedestrian only sections.

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Give the Authorities a chance at least. It is a thin blue line but if you don't report the issue and an injury/death occurs, you'll likely regret not having done so.

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Already had a word with my local representative..but as I said lack of any real resources most of whom are chasing litterbugs in the main high street of the town and the smaller boroughs like mine are at the end of the line. They recently changed the rules on dog walkers but as far as I'm aware no one has been pulled up about breaking those..not enough staff.

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Perhaps put your concerns in writing so that you have a (dated) point of reference if something grisly does happen in the future? No real solution sorry.

Unfortunately, idiotic vermin scourge that they are, cyclists look for refuge for their own personal safety.

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Without concern for anyone else, especially pedestrians.

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This'll make em soil their Lycra

Shocking footage shows moment lorry almost ploughs into group of cyclists in London who escape injury by just inches


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ts-London.html

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I suggest all pedestrians wear a helmet.

Clear evidence that £millions needs to be spent on segregated cycleways all over the Country. Keep up the good work papa. :tu:

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Before you start preaching to pedestrians to wear a helmet you need to preach to some of your fellow cyclists first on that score..

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If cyclists obeyed the road rules correctly then there would be no reason to suggest such silly ideas.

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Continuing the theme that bland statements deserve bland responses:

Helmets are not compulsory for cyclists (or pedestrians). Didn't you know that?

The road rules are not the issue. There are many 'shared space' facilities which are routinely abused by pedestrians - they'd be safer if they wore a helmet.

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l knew that but perhaps a more considered intelligent remark from you to start rather then your typical dismissive throwaway comments against anybody who criticises cyclists as you seem to be stuck on default defending the irresponsible cyclists of which there are quite a few sadly on our roads nowadays.

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I made a factually correct statement to assist you. Isn't that the very definition of a considered and intelligent remark? Strewth.

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Your considered and intelligent remark was..

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Nope, it was...

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Should be made compulsory for cyclists to wear helmets... It is a no brainer.

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shared or not, pedestrians do not need safety hats. Thats just a silly suggestion. If cyclists were more careful and did not break all the rules then there would be no problems. Deliveroo and Uber Eats cyclists are by far the worst around.

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And yet, only two countries in the entire World currently require and enforce universal use of helmets by cyclists.

Yes, it is a silly suggestion. A bit like "if cyclists were more careful and did not break all the rules" is also a silly suggestion.

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In the broader sense: some ordinary people break some of the rules some of the time but all people don't break all of the rules all of the time. Cyclists are just ordinary people.

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Ah, I see your point. Specifically, I have heard that 4 years ago someone had a spat with a person who had a bike. A cadre of wronged pedestrians is stewing. Well, specifically, one at least. Good heavens.

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Just a few stats on why helmets matter.


https://www.headway.org.uk/get-invol...cycle-helmets/


https://injuryprevention.bmj.com/content/9/3/266

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When we went up to Bournemouth a few weeks ago for a daytrip there was a sign that said sadly 5 cyclists had died in this area and by it there was another sign that said the words please wear a helmet as it might save your life.

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There are so many stats and opinions on the use or non-use of helmets that it's possible to spend a lot of time posting contrary links.

Not sure there's any correlation between the two signs? There is so much we don't know about the deaths.

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I’ve never seen any stats supporting the proposition that it’s safer not wearing a bike helmet.

Always willing to be educated, though.

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Not sure if you're referencing my comment about the use or non use of bike helmets; if you are it is not only a safety issue. In Australia and New Zealand, where there are compulsory helmet laws, there has been a 30 to 50% drop in the number of people cycling. This statistic is courtesy of Olympic Gold Medallist, Chris Boardman.

I suppose it might be 'safer' if we all (vehicle drivers, buggy owners, pedestrians, skateboarders, roller skaters, drinkers etc) wore helmets but that's just silly.

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Great cyclist Chris Boardman was l am not sure one can take him seriously in regards to safety.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukn...programme.html


l would rather listen to someone with far more common sense and a clear regard for safety.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-45312756

https://www.cyclingweekly.com/news/l...-thomas-392189

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Obesity and pollution looks a better plan eh? At least you’ve let the cat out of the bag: you don’t want ‘safer’ cycling, you want less cycling to suit your selfish preference.

Ride a bike yourself Den?

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That would be pretty difficult given my ongoing multiple comorbidities and disabilities but in a ideal world if l was capable of riding a bike a helmet would be the second thing l would buy after a bike as its better to be safe rather then sorry.

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I don't normally agree with Kursk :) but he seems one of the few here with a sense of perspective. All transport types have their fair share of idiots. Cyclists are no worse than car drivers ..

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l am not disagreeing with that view but a driver/passengers in a road vehicle have a reasonable protection for them where cyclists without helmets don't.

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Round here they are.

One such idiot thought it a good idea to pull straight across me today at a junction. Only the fact I was going at about 5mph saved him, I missed him by inches. Had I hit him, my car might have got a slight bump - he on the otherhand would likely be in hospital, if not worse. Complete moron. :mad:

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Just wish they would stay off the pavements..

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You wouldn't be 'safe' in a little plastic hat Den. Unless it's a condom.

:tu: Well said.

Perhaps the cyclist thought "who's this idiot driving at 5mph?" A circus parade could have pulled straight across you with no risk of collision :D.

Pavements are the most economically viable new shared space.

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The Green Cross (Pavement) Code 2018

1. THINK! Remember, you are in a shared space designated area.
2. STOP! Stand near the edge of your gate but do not exit.
3. USE YOUR EYES AND EARS! Look all around for cyclists, and listen.
4. WAIT UNTIL IT'S SAFE TO EXIT! If a bicycle is coming, let it pass.
5. LOOK AND LISTEN! When it's safe, walk onto the pavement.
6. ARRIVE ALIVE! Keep looking and listening.
7. WEAR A HELMET! (optional) In case of falling trees, meteorites etc.

you just googled for the Green X (Pavement) Code 2018 didn't you? Sigh.

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A prerequisite for this forum; cycling is as divisive as Brexit here ;).

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Yes and ruddy boring.

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Like wearing a cycle helmet, participation is optional not compulsory.

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Head bans student from cycling to schools without number plates.

Of course the cycling lobby is against it but that's only to be expected.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-45636870

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What an idiot. There again, perhaps a number should be worn by every headmaster so ve know who zey are und vhere to find zem.

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I can see both sides of this, however to a pint having school children with'number plates' will help track children if they ever got lost or in an incident and at the same time allow reporting of said child to the school if they are riding angerously or causing trouble.

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IMO it is wholly wrong for children to be monitored in this way. The potential for malicious abuse is obvious.

It will also serve to discourage cycling in the generation most likely to enjoy the most benefit.

What a moron.

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Who exactly are you calling a moron?

If it helps prevent accidents and helps keep children safer then it's not a bad thing.

Make it for all cyclists on the road.

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Not you. Calm down dear.

It won’t prevent accidents. An accident happens, erm, accidentally whether you have a reg plate or not.

It won’t keep children safe; it may expose them to malicious fake reports; it may lead to the stress of stolen/swapped/lost number plates.

Let kids ride a bike and enjoy their school time without watching their every move. Dear Lord.

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In other contexts, you would normally hear cries of "Nanny State!" but not here .. strange.

We over control our children as it is ..

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I think its more about trying to protect the children and stop then getting knocked down or causing trouble when they are on their way to/from school.

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CF is a tech forum - a propensity for selfish lardiness is to be expected ;).

But how does it protect them and how does it stop them getting knocked down and will all those who don't cycle to school be free to cause trouble without reproach?

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Cyclist dies in collision with a car


Deptford road crash: Cyclist dies in collision with car - www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-45692561

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It’s Sunday and the Lycra brigade are out in force being the usual nuisance on the country roads round here.

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******Breaking news*******


I have just seen a cyclist stop for a red light, i need to go and have a stiff whiskey to control the shock :)


******Breaking news*******

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Great post. How about an update on how your paint is drying?:dozey:
Stopping at red lights is now our preferred way of annoying motorists. The old 'ignore red lights' rule was fun but the new 'stop-and-get-in-the-way-for-longer' rule is so much better. :D

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Yes, but people behave differently when they know they are being watched or can be easily traced.

As for your 'malicious fake reports' line, maybe motorists shouldn't have number plates any more either.

I think it is the anonymity that makes many cyclists more reckless. Nobody can identify you if they want to report you, and this makes many of them just do as they please. There needs to be a clamp down.

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Exactly!

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So, everyone should wear an overt number so they can be watched and easily traced? Think it through.

Motorists have number plates to confirm compliance with license requirements, emissions limitations, MOT's, insurance etc; none of which apply to cyclists. Gawd, how many times....:dunce:

My advice to the kids going to this school (you do remember that the discussion is about children being monitored don't you?) is to only display the issued number when at school. What they do outside school is none of the headmaster's business.

Exactly! he simpered.:blush:

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Licence plates are also used to trace the owner if the break the law.

So yes your paranoia about tracking is there for a reason.

Stop people doing bad or silly things they shouldn't be.

Make cyclists on the road have insurance and a registration.

It will cut down on incidents and cyclists generally being itiots.

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Who exactly are you calling an itiot? :dunce:

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Absolutely.:tu:

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I agree

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Something has to be done so that those responsible can be identified and if necessary prosecuted and provide restitution to their victims.

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