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So thats Death by Snu Snu https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCdrUW--Jic

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Being the first woman to achieve that position way back when women in politics were far fewer yes indeed many people, especially men, did - far more I reckon than doubt May who at least doesn't have that particular hurdle to overcome.

Which is why I stated - 'only time will tell'... ;)

Anyway, it's probably not going to be long before 3 of the world's top 5 economies are being run by women and in the UK both major parties are being led by women. If this carries on it might not be too long before we need some positive discrimination in favour or men.

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but have you heard it constantly repeated so often;)

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:D I wonder how many women think fellatio is an Italian footballer?

Careful papa, loose talk costs lives ;)

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:tu:

It amazes me that anyone is really surprised at the tactics employed during this contest, the referendum (by both sides) or past elections. FGS when was an election ever won by a govt. which told the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth? It's laughable. The referendum is far from a unique example of lies, spin, duplicity and anyone who calls its validity into question because of that ought to do likewise for every election in living memory I reckon. The lies have been told, the votes have been cast, the result is clear and we need to get on with the job.

Whilst we may see another spate of navel gazing and the usual accompanying media frenzy as a result of recent events, it won't be long before they're as quietly forgotten as all the fine sounding words issued following Jo Cox's murder and it'll be back to business...

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Dave is gone as early as Wednesday next week!!!

LOL just seen him on the news he comes out and waffles on a bit and then turns around and walks back where he came from a loser. even the news guy sniggered at the fool.

I said from the start that Dave would go down in history as the worst Prime Minister ever.
he killed the country. can't get any worse than that!

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this wednesday :)

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OMG!!!

I've just won the lottery last Saturday too.
I wonder what the 3rd one will be?

George falling off a cliff?

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If Anglea Eagle won the Labour leadership then both main party's in the commons will have a woman as their leader. You would also the same situation in the Scottish Parliament. UKIP could get a female leader as could the Greens. In theory all the party leaders at the next set of debates could be woman plus Tim Farron :D.

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Yes please :D





Angela Eagle a woman ,if you say so :erm:

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PMQs will be weird on Wednesday. Pretty much a goodbye session for Cameron.

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and Corbyn? ;)

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Well don't let the door hit either of their backsides on the way out not going to miss either of them but I'll avoid the news as no doubt people will be gushing about what a great pm Cameron has been and what a nice chap he is I just don't have the gag reflex I once did.

Ignition I find it really hard to take you seriously sometimes your on here now saying Cameron's deal with the EU wasn't that bad but before you were utterly slating it and dismissing it as nothing but then not so long ago you were a leaver now your a remainer bit hard to know exactly what your position is.

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Cameron did ok considering the difficulties of 2008 and having to be in a coalition. Managed the first term quite well and even increased his majority, not a small achievement. He has undermined that by the Scottish and EU referendums, probably far too confident in his ability to control things.

Politicians always have mixed records. No one leaves office undamaged by some scandal or another and few bow out on top.

The biggest irony here is that a year ago he won an election largely based on a platform of stability in contrast to the 'chaos' they had convinced the electorate that Miliband represented.

I don't mind Cameron though. I like pragmatic and controlled politicians as opposed to the populism that people like Corbyn and Leadsom represent.

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He is witty, handsome, clever and honest. I have always been an admirer and great friend of the millionaire Gary L.

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You do realise we don't have any civil servants with experience in things like trade deals don't you? Reason being is because we've let the EU deal with all that for years, so if you know anyone with the traits you describe you'd better let Mrs May know ASAP otherwise we might only be left with magic beans at the end of negotiations

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Next year apparently and I doubt very much she'll be pm tomorrow

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All women debates then...

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Bang on the money!:D

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So on Thursday morning we will have a new PM

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According to the BBC this morning she's moving into Number 10 tomorrow.

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Aye just read that ,i wonder if she'll share taxis with Cameron to go see Queenie :D

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Seriously though i think it a good thing to get this done quickly ,there is no point dragging it out ,get her in power and get the cabinet chosen and get on with Brexit.

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Still can't see all that happening today, tomorrow, or the next day. Dave hasn't even packed yet and iirc the queen is on holiday, we know she doesn't like being disturbed on her hols from when Diana died.

Oh yes, link to Mrs May, article 50 and next year

http://europe.newsweek.com/brexit-th...icle-50-477211

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Well it's just been on the news that it's all set for tomorrow ,he's out .The biggest worry for the Camerons (according to the BBC) is where are they going to live ? he is actually renting his own house out so hasn't actually got anywhere to go .Maybe some form of emergency accommodation from Westminster council is in order ,he is unemployed now so Housing Benefit could pay minus the spare room tax of course ..... :D

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Could be the best thing ,there is a lot get done before we trigger A50 .As mentioned before we don't have any experienced negotiators and there has been no debate on what relationship we want with Europe when we do leave

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Poor Dave, it's not like he's even got any friends he can stay with or friends full stop actually judging by the reaction he got at the tennis the other day, reminded me of when Gideon got booed at the Olympics, happy days

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Shouldn't be a problem as I understand that, in addition to his Notting Hill property that he has let for several years since he's been at No 10, he also owns a substantial cotswold stone property near Chipping Norton.

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Must be weird to have the PM as your landlord. Bet it's difficult getting him on the phone.

Ideally before article 50 is invoked we'll know what we want and have vague idea of how we'll get it. As far as I am concerned the actual process after article 50 should be a formality as much as is possible. You shouldn't set off a controlled explosion before you know how you're getting out of the building.

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Especially for you Damien, a Chinese proverb: "When the winds of change blow,
some people build walls and others build windmills" ;).

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Ffs we're back to donald trump again, give it up donald we aren't building a wall, there's no need they're already here

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I'm sorry you'll need to explain that comment for me? :erm:

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That's pretty much the level of debate I've come to expect from you on this matter.

Apologies for not agreeing with your Express-tinted view of the world and impinging on it with reality.

This is why it was a bad idea putting something complicated and nuanced to the public in a referendum.

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We actually already governed our own country.

The implication that misinformation was one-way is hilarious :)

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Okay, enough of the nonsense over the BS before the vote and people who seem to think the consequences and risks of it are 'boring'.

You reckon she'll be able to stall it for that long?

There are plenty of rebellious MPs who want it done yesterday, consequences be damned.

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Send me a SAE and I'll send you a signed photograph.

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Well today's the day.
No more Dave. no more having to listen to him waffling on the TV. no more of the slap head dictating to us "The Great British Public"

C'ya Dave. you arrogant fool.

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Depending on what Theresa does we may all be missing Dave in the not too distant future. :erm:

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I wonder if she'll do anything with the Foreign Aid budget?

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The foreign aid budget is set by Europe as a % of GDP so when we leave the budget will be whatever we want it to be

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I thought CMD had it set at 0.7% it's certainly higher than most of other places in the World.

For example the US is 0.19% same as Portugal and Japan
Australia is 0.27%

Germany (in the EU) is set at 0.41%
France (also in the EU) is 0.36%

I'd say we have some room to maneuver personally...

[Figures from here: https://www.theguardian.com/global-d...-most-generous ]

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I'd agree. I think the FA budget needs to be reviewed downwards and what's left far better spent than a good deal of it has been.

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Actually i got that wrong ,the Foreign aid budget is 0.7% of GDI not GDP and is not set by the EU but the UN .We passed 0.7% into law in March 2015 so even if she wanted to do something she can't .Apparently all the G7 countries where supposed to have a 0.7% GDI budget but at the moment only the UK bothered to do it ,all the rest simply ignored it

https://www.theguardian.com/global-d...centage-income

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Can't wait to see how she does as PM, I would have voted for her anyway if it had gone to a vote of Tory members.

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It took a woman PM to get us out of the mess of 70's so who knows ,she could be just what's needed and i think those politicians that rely on the old boys club are in for a shock .

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Of course. The reference, as you know, is about the impact an unelected bureaucracy has upon domestic governance; spelling this out to an intelligent readership after months of associated discussion seemed superfluous.

I make no such implication?

Okeydoke. I'd like the photograph to be of a nude Charlize Theron; when you sign it make sure you don't ink over any important bits.:p:

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Attention. The Great British Public!

Dave has officially gone!
The evil reign has ended. you are all set free!

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my bum just un-clenched for the first time in 6 years ahhhhhhh:)

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Congratulations - your forecast was right (eventually)

June 2012 February 2013March 2015

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That's reminded me. I wonder if Dave has took George with him?

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Thanks Hugh :hugs:

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Osbournes gone too.

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If he hurries he can still catch Dave up.

He was incompetent.
good riddance tea boy.

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Boris gets foreign office

Hammond is chancellor

Amber Rudd gets home secretary

http://news.sky.com/story/cabinet-ha...reign-10500834

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did he budget for that :)

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It's just a case of out with the old, in with the old.

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Boris to the Foreign Office seems rather bizarre to me.

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I saw this whch if true, is pretty funny given that Boris is the new Foreign Secretary :)

https://twitter.com/SunApology/statu...21287267807232

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...07/1.jpg:large

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I want to make it perfectly clear that at no time did I ever suggest Boris for the Foreign Office :erm:

Gulp.

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David David is a good choice to handle brexit and sends a clear message to the eu although the only reason i can think why she put Boris in the foreign office is to finally nail the lid on his political coffin be lucky if he makes it a year.

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So good they named him twice?

I think the reason she put boris in such a high office is because it's better to have him in the tent collectively responsible than as a maverick outside urinating all over the place, he'd have likely turned down a lesser job and it's a job in name only since he won't be dealing with the Brexit. Besides iirc the chilcot-report said just last week that the foreign office was inept, who better to lead it than an inept minister like him.

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When l heard this it gave me quite a chuckle l can tell you.:rofl:

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Two new positions, directly from the vote ;

Secretary of State for Exiting the EU - David Davis
Secretary of State for International Trade - Liam Fox

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I'm not that unhappy about Gove, except that... I do think he was a breath of fresh air as prison reform, I do wonder what will happen there now, more book bans?

We'll see.

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Done with the Brexit stuff now, people will be delighted to know.

What Theresa May is doing is fascinating. Huge clear out of the 'Notting Hill' clique, and nothing short of a substantial reform of government.

She's definitely looking like she's not afraid to change things. People were expecting her to be relatively dull, instead she's scalped the cabinet already and is pushing strong reform, stamping her authority on government immediately.

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New department for Business, Energy and Industry may be set up, along with a new Infrastructure department, various other departments re-arranged and merged into it.

Why just change the head of departments when you can change entire departments?

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Anyone know what is happening re: Health? Seen so many conflicting stories today, first he has gone then he is staying now he is going and now latest is he is definitely STAYING.

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I'm not sure why so many people bash boris?

I think he's pretty intelligent I think he will do well or either that she's hoping someone abroad will think he's a muppet as well and he'll get shot ending his political career

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He's staying, official.

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He has a history of being careless with his words. Not ideal for our foremost international diplomat.

Hopefully the civil servants in the FCO will keep him in order.

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Interesting
http://www.itv.com/news/update/2016-...ons-secretary/

Does this mean a comeback for IDS?

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Hell no ids is the last thing the welfare system needs and he'd be the polar opposite of what may has talked about as I doubt she was taken in by his resignation over too much cutting of disability benefits.

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Damian Green is the new Work and Pensions Secretary RK.

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Dave and George have been found together at a local cafe!
they still look cute together.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ting-Hill.html

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I thought you would stop being obsessed when he stopped being PM... ;)

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It's only been a few hours Hugh :)

Subject needs updating. she's been PM for ages now!n

Do you think Dave will ever see Obama again?
they didn't say their proper goodbye's really did they?

when was the last time they were together anyway. was it when Obama came over here to try and keep Dave in his job?

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Winds of change.

Sweep out the Tory toffs. :)

She's certainly hit the ground running. Going to be interesting to see how she does with Merkel. (Mud wrestling anybody?):D

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Nah I think Theresa will take Angela with arm wrestling maybe put some free trade agreements as the prize.

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No we don't elect a PM in this country ,never have, never will.We elect a political party .

Explaining this to a 10 yr old would be ok ,but an adult ,not so much :rolleyes:

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You thought wrong. ;)

Go back to the beach, we can explain later. :D

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Drink and eat more and stay away from all media best way to enjoy a holiday.

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And try to avoid picking up ones smartphone.;)

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I actively avoid all things smarter then me that's why I rarely charge the damn thing :).

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Saw online somewhere that Mrs May had written "F. Off." next to Boris's name and some hapless civil servant had misinterpreted this as "Foreign Office" :D

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I think May has been very clever in placing Boris in the FO..How long before he commits a total balls up and then will be gone? Any takers?

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Yep totally agree Maggy I think that's exactly why she has done it and it's a safe bet as for an intelligent man which Boris is he makes the most ridiculously basic mistakes and I doubt he'll make it a year before his political coffin lid is nailed shut. So far Theresa May has obliterated the modern Tories and what they stand for she's keeps this up and implements her rhetoric I may have to vote in the next general election as I couldn't in the last one due to what the conservatives had become.

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Well, my mind is open on this. Yes, there are the gaffes but I've watched him do Q & A as London Mayor and was very impressed. These meetings require you to know your job inside out and upside down, to have plans, to know your budgets, resources, strategies etc and to be fair, he was well up on his game.

I think he is judged on perception rather than his true capability. Give the man a chance in what is a tough job and then we'll have a true indication of his worth. I think he will surprise some. I hope so anyway because our future depends on how this group of people perform; it won't help if we knock them down.

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He didn't manage budgets, etc. - the Tories hired a manager to do all the detailed work because Boris wasn't bothered/interested in that...

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/...y-tory-threats

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It's not so much a case of closed minds just judging him on his past which is not overly impressive and I think it's pretty clear he is being set up to fail and looking at his past he's very likely to fail.

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That's a 4 year old link; he certainly seemed to know what things were about last year. Everyone in senior public posts has advisers; ministers themselves have an army of civil servants to deal with governance and briefing so it's not unusual that Boris would have support. The PM has the Treasury to manage budgets but the big decisions are made by the person in charge.

You're not a fan of Boris then?

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Boris looks like a buffoon, Bliar on the other hand, looks sharp, talks the talk and sounds credible in a £1000 suit. Who's better?

If he was from one minority or the other he'd be claiming some form of human rights violation.

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Watch out, here he comes... Boris Poppins!

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Theresa May is new UK PM :D

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Anyone missing Dave yet?

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2016/08/14.jpg

Have you noticed how Britain is getting better since he was thrown in the bin?

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So you're liking Tory PM Theresa May's performance so far?

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Meh. Too early to tell isn't it? I didn't mind Cameron either though.

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I've actually not been taking any notice with it all lately. I've been really busy and on holiday. the last thing I remember of her is the day she took over Nobby's job.

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Anyone got an opinion on how she's doing. I think she needs to be a bit more vocal, the keep quiet and wait for others to hang themselves was a perfect strategy when she was prime minister non elect but now she has the top job I'd actually like to hear from her a bit more, other than that she has done okay imo, certainly much better than any of the others would've done

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Hopefully her lack of vocal presence means she is busy in the background doing her job ,unlike her predecessors who would jump on tv and hold press conferences at any opportunity for no particular reason.

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No, but the question is a bit broad so might be in some areas

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Its too early to give a opinion based on she has only been there for a short while so l will reserve judgement until further down the road.

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Was promising initially but has disappointed since. Grammar schools, her poor performance in PMQs this week, showing an inability to think on her feet when she doesn't have pre-prepared soundbites.

She shows a disturbing contempt for evidence-based policies already, and seems set on ensuring we are very clear the more 'liberal' conservatism from Dave is done.

The Conservatives' poll numbers are intensely flattered by the utter shambles that is the Labour party. Thankfully one small silver lining is that it opens up the field a bit for the Liberal Democrats to progress.

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Well better than Gove or Boris any day..

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I find her silence more professionalism than anything else. As pointed out jumping on the tele at every chance for no reason is just retarded. More to the point it is more professional to step back instead of being forced to do things like for example Brexit. Instead of whoring she kept quiet and in time said it is what it is lets get on with it rather than being pulled into bollocks debates that her predecessors would have jumped at.

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The Liberal Democrats are making massive gains in council by-elections. Not representative I know but yesterday they won one on a 28% swing. Can't seem them doing so in Parliamentary elections though. Liberalism is dying.

I think it's too early to judge May. She does seem to be picking fights she doesn't need to though and I don't know why. I can't see the upside for her, politically, by starting with grammar schools unless she is trying to get the side of the Tory party who disliked Cameron onside before shafting them on Brexit terms. By doing this she has already annoyed the Cameron-wing of the Tory party and Osborne was on the radio today showing his discontent.

We can give her a pass on PMQs though. It's only her third and she has no experience on the other end of the dispatch box unlike Cameron or Blair. Also I don't think people care that much.

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As far as I'm concerned they should just axe PMQ complete farce and waste of time.

I'm also unclear why as a nation we keep insisting on self flagellation and keep bringing up ancient history as inquests.

Hillsborough
Bloody sunday
Miners Strike

Sometimes it's healthier once a decent interval has passed to just let things go.

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Not if you're one of the ones affected. Finding out what happened is important. If we let things go then there would be no official recognition, and less public understanding, that those killed in Londonderry/Derry did nothing wrong and those Liverpool fans in Sheffield did nothing wrong.

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Yea and the N I terrorists all got a free get out of jail card, whilst the soldiers face prison - fair huh?
And the miners were so squeaky clean...

As I said, sometimes it's better to draw a line under it and move on.

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No soldiers from Bloody Sunday are in prison yet nor are they likely to be. Also terrorists weren't all given a free pass.

The inquiry didn't convict anyone, it established the truth of what happened.

It also doesn't require much wisdom to declare we should move on when you're not the victim. That's up to them, not us.