Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

We can now reveal the price list.

TiVo A:
-1tb
-6 tuners
-wifi
-Allow streaming to one device
-Cost £99 with a £12p/m charge.

TiVo B:
-2tb
-6 tuners
-Allow you to stream to 4 devices
-wifi
-4k
-Cost £199 with £15p/m charge.

Information may change.

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

I feel that is way dearer than sky they offer a box for £99 but £199 is just taking the mick with a £15 a month charge over a year it's £137 dearer than sky, so I'll stick with original slow TiVo for time being. Two boxes will cost me near £300 versus £200 and extra £27 versus £12 a month maybe it is time for sky

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

That was the prices we was given - Virgin Media UK may change them.

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

Bloody cheek, don't they charge us enough! I wont be paying that, they can friggin ram it!......:mad:

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

As MB said prices are subject to change.

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

Think I'll be switching to Sky Q. Those prices are not good at all.

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

so 4k is 199 and 15 pound a month. thought the prize would the same as sky, way to much for me. but your info could change so will wait to make judgment.

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

Its a no from me if the prices stay at that.

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

They never learned anything from the current TiVo. Sky give away boxes free versus £200 forget that, once sky is installed in my close I'm off to sky

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Exactly same here no thanks freebox from sky, virgin £199 forget that

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Exactly mate the boxes from sky are free as we loan them from sky. We are paying not only £199 to loan a box but a £15 per month fee for that. I'll stay for broadband but the rest goodbye virgin

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I know that but if they don't change come October goodbye virgin, I refuse to pay £199 to rent a box when sky is free over 1 year this will cost £380 versus £144

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

I'm sure the prices will be better at launch, those seem too high. But we don't know what VM's other charges will be before we can judge properly.

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

Virgin are now calling you a liar saying you info is incorrect how sad are they

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Sadly mediaboys sources are normally really reliable and he wouldn't have printed this unless he was sure there was some stability to it

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

Exactly.

New tv packs/bundles are on the way, so its only once they are known can we properly judge along with the stb costs and tivo charges. And we don't know what the boxes can and cannot do. Ie, does stream to other devices mean I can choose what channels I want on those devices independently, or do they need to be controlled from the "master" stb?

£200 and £15 per month is a lot, but if you only need one box for the whole house, its not. Until we know what the capabilities are, its impossible to judge.

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

They will launch with these prices, how can they charge this when sky q boxes are free

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Well I can't justify £200 to rent a box, you say it's not a lot of money but if sky q can do it for free then so should virgin

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

Those prices seem about right. TiVo A works out at £243 over the 1st year. TiVo B works out at £379 over the 1st year.

I remember when TiVo launched over 5 years ago. It cost new customers £199 for the box, £40 installation then £3 per month... if you where on XL and VIP. I'm sure those on M+ and L packages had to pay £8 per month for their TiVo. That's £275 over the 1st year for XL customers and £335 over the 1st year for those on M+ and L.

Doesn't make the prices for the new boxes look outrageous, or wide of the mark, at all.

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

While the packs will affect monthly price of £15 it won't affect £200 install charge or whatever they call it. No matter how it's dressed up sky q say our boxes are free virgin go hey lets charge £200 see what daft customers pay then we will review prices

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Your totally right but at that time sky used to charge for sky boxes like 2nd sky HD box was £299 but now sky boxes for sky q are free, and virgin want £200 seriously

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

SKY Q is not free they are £99 or £149 if taken with a £42p/m package also i believe you are only renting the SKY Q box.
MM will know more on this.
The vm tivo+ (i'm calling it tivo+) prices are just a guideline based price and are subject to change.

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

They're not free. They charge a "set up" fee, aka Sky bloke comes round to your house and plugs the new box in.... hardly difficult, so Sky are charging for the box.If the box somehow enabled me to watch services on four tvs at the same time (fat chance, I know) then I think the cost is reasonable. But to stream to 4 phones/ipads is costly. It just depends what the capabilities are.

Regardless, like you, I can't afford the £200 either. There was a time in the dial-up days that my phone bills ran up to £200+ per month. The days when I could spend money like water are long gone, but many do have the cash.

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

SKY are running with the following offer for Virgin and BT customers:

"Switch to Sky Q or Sky Q Silver and you’ll get 20% off for 12 months. Enjoy over 350 Box Sets on demand, plus add sports or movies at 20% off for 12 months. What’s more, our install cost is just £10 (usually £99).

Equipment
Sky Q Silver No cost
Sky Q Mini No cost"

I'm sure new SKY customers, not switching from BT or Virgin, also get both boxes free with just a £10 install cost and can choose from a free 32” LG TV, £100 prepaid Mastercard or £100 Amazon gift card. I think it's the existing SKY customers who have to pay for the Sky Q boxes.

Good deals out there if your out of contact and thinking about switching. Not so good if your an existing customer of SKY or Virgin looking to get the latest tech :(

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

I'm tempted by this myself going to check this out thanks for info, despite me hating SKY this is certainly tempting me back to them for tv.

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

Sadly now they are free now on the silver bundle look

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

Virgin have messed this one up badly

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

Here's the link mate:

http://www.sky.com/shop/offers/sky-q/new/

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

thanks mate bookmarked this will look properly tomorrow when the magnas cider has worn off lol.

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Still a lot of money for tv though tbf.

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

I do agree but defo cheaper than the expensive virgin media

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

And if you're not bothered about Sky Q and are happy with a normal HD box, the 50% off for 12 months is still available - just google sky 50 off.

Cheers

Grim

Re: Virgin Media will launch a new set-top box
 

I think its smaller than its percieved it looks like extra shadow until a proper picture is given with box diameters and not a artist perception, we'll never know...

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

Netflix and Amazon have some 4k stuff and are cheaper than Sky and Vm too.........

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I thought we were seeing a picture of a cardboard box and the stb was inside, hence that Russian dolls comment.

We roughly know the dimensions now as the lastest picture has the remote next to it. As Spiderplant said, its about the size of a large paperback book.

Re: Virgin Media will launch a new set-top box
 

The Sky Q Silver bundle gives viewing in 2 rooms.

Sky+HD with Sports HD and Movies in 2 rooms is £92 per month too.

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

Yes too many coming to quick conclusions IMO as no prices have been confirmed by Virgin yet.

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Never rush to make such quick judgements as you might look a bit foolish in the end.:)

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

Can't believe people Paul this much to watch repeats

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

That is one ugly box. If you compare them to woman the sky q would be the stunner that walks into the night club that everyone notices and the virgin box would be the right honker that you make do with at 3 in the morning

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

Don't get where u get that From

Virgin £199 for box and £15 per month

Sky £0 for box and £12 per month

Even taking away the monthly fee £199 v £0

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

You are making a quick judgement on prices when Virgin have not even revealed their pricing details yet so it is a absolute folly to make comparisons yet IMO on prices.

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

I do probably sky q is like a present you get and you wow you look nice don't you, and what your free oh so much better, but with virgin you get a ugly box and you get smile and say thanks till they hit you with £199 bill, you go wait in a existing customer but they go I know, only new customers get it for £99, can I just have first present please

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What is a quick judgement about

Even taking away the monthly fee £199 v £0

---------- Post added at 08:44 ---------- Previous post was at 08:42 ----------

Media boy has given the info and it's really simple

Virgin will take £199 for a 4K box and sky don't charge for a 4K box

If you know something more tell us what we are missing

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I know as I say below sky don't charge for a box or when they do it's £99 max but virgin think hell we can charge £199 and see who pays

---------- Post added at 08:51 ---------- Previous post was at 08:46 ----------

But also that £15 must include the current £5 TiVo charge so £10 a month more

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

its a defo no from me as well, can get two tivo boxes for that price per month which would give you six tuners.

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

Exactly mate well done same here, they will look after new customers and we get asked for £200. They are competing with sky but charge more than £100 to £200 not good business sense

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I just spoke with somebody called charlotte who asked somebody in the know and I'll just quote what she said

V6 prices and box costs are in a pilot phase at the monent and these prices are being reviewed

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

I will probably end up getting it, maybe not at launch, but need to get my hands on a 4K TV first lol

Wonder if they will reveal anymore details about launch 4K content or any new stuff they have lined up?

Re: Virgin Media will launch a new set-top box
 

Agreed but those just wanting 4K not bothered about multiroom are paying more that was my point.

Re: Virgin Media will launch a new set-top box
 

Yeah they don't get a choice, maybe find a way to suit both

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

6 tuners will fill 1Tb in no time at all given the inadequate epg data. Especially now we can no longer choose which channels to record from (due to the IMO ill-conceived "series links+") and end up with duplicates from the different channel variations due to the "generic episode problem". Just imagine it recording the same program on 6 tuners and then the same again from +1 channel(s) for good measure. Good luck ever being away from Tivo for a few days without manually purging planning constantly. No signs of Tivo ever changing the 30 day rule where it "forgets" what you have watched and records all over again too. After 15 years of loyalty bonuses due to poor reliability and performance, it is time to move on for me.

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

I Had same problem but in series link plus you just choose what channel you want, I had them set to all but that solves issue. There is a 2tb TiVo but that is expensive

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

Yes but you cannot choose which channels (plural) i.e. if you want a series link on two distinct channels, as I often do but not 6 or more channels variants. With the old version I could do that. Now I can't.

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

As a reminder ... NO prices have yet been quoted directly from Virgin, so how do you know the 2tb Tivo is expensive? - you are quoting prices from an aged document Mediaboy had

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

Ok can media boy come on and tell us how up to date the prices are that was given

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

I find it strange that there are no specs yet released when they have announced the box, but MB has some prices (no disrespect to him)

2TB seems a little stingy in my eyes ...

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

Well sky has the 2tb limit so maybe that's why, mediaboy please respond

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

I signed up with Virgin Media in March this year when I moved into my new home. Mainly because the previous owners already had Virgin, so we didn't need any installation engineer etc. and they had 200MB Fibre. And they had a good half price deal for 6 months. Having never been a Virgin customer before (always had Sky for TV), I must admit I was and still am sorely disappointed with the VM TV offering. It's simply atrocious compared with Sky. I absolutely love the Fibre Broadband.. way better than anything I have ever had previously but the TiVo box is simply archaic compared to Sky's kit. And this new box, on first impressions, isn't going to tempt me to stay with Virgin TV once my contract expires in March.... perhaps that might change as more information comes out but I doubt it.

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

How can he respond if he's got DNP orders not to post the information? You need to be patient.

All this moaning is doing my head in. When you get all the information, in good time, you will be in a better position to make a choice between the new Virgin box and the Sky Q. You cannot base your judgement on the prices quoted in this thread. You need to await Virgin's official announcement. If you jump ship now, you may live to regret it. TV is set to improve on VM in terms of content.

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

Only way id get one is option to diss the phone line and package to compensate.

But you get penalised i.e i get xl on everything at 75. Ive looked at just tv xl and 200 bb two tivo boxes works out £85 £10 more.

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

:clap::clap::clap:

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

Going on unofficial posts months in advance of the product launch is a poor basis for a decision. Wait till the official VM information release before deciding!

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

Indeed Andrew.

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

I mean the prices that media boy quoted I was wondering how old or recent they are, that is important

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

Tsk! Where's the fun in that? Must. Have. Something. To. Moan. About! :mad:

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

No company with any sense, when competing with a major rival such as Sky, would release pricing so far ahead of product launch.

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

Well that would put media boy sources out of date with info

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

I think you will find that time will prove me right in saying those prices are way off beam. Until an official announcement is made, it's best to hold your horses, or live to regret a hasty decision.

Even if you do find the initial price too expensive, the price is likely to reduce before the first year is out. If I remember correctly, that is what happened when the Tivo was first launched.

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

Yeah well we will find out when virgin get there finger out

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

Patience my dear chap as they will release the info when they are good and ready.

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

The box isn't due to arrive for three or four months yet. There is no hurry.

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

I'm sure spec wise it will be a good box but I'd sack the design team it looks awful.

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

Its not how it looks MM as whats the good in a lovely looking machine if it is a load of rubbish?.

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

I know. I couldn't believe it when I first saw it. I thought it was a prototype of the old Jerrold box!

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

Sky doesn't have very dated compression algorithms so you can record a lot more in the same space with Sky and the picture is much sharper.

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

Well if they know there is speculation and it's incorrect it's better to fix it

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

Not really as they have not announced anything yet. If they publicise their prices this far in advance, Sky will take advantage of that situation to undermine Virgin.

What if, for example, the price was pitched lower than Sky Q? That would give Sky ample time to put together a revised package to compete better with Virgin.

No, I'm sorry, but you are going to have to wait until Virgin are good and ready. We probably won't know until around the launch date.

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

Yeah but on the other side, if they putting it out via sources it's £200 dearer than sky, they could lose customers £99 would have been reasonable and stable

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

Just to quote from my earlier post in the this thread (#36):

""So far we've seen very little impact from the Sky Q which is of course a very expensive decoder and we're very focussed on improving the offer we have there and EOS is going to be a big part of that."

That was what Liberty/VM had to say about SkyQ a few months ago. So whatever they do, I cannot imagine they would make their service more expensive than Sky's.

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

Quite. Eloquently put.

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

Well taking that statement is true let's hope, or virgin mislead its customers

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

Yes l have to agree with that as well.

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

Ok so what do we think it will really cost then

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

Your guess is as good as mine, old chap. As I said, be patient and all will be revealed.

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

As there is a rule of thumb on this forum that a couple of months later what was posted here becomes what was infact posted by virgin :rolleyes:, i have book marked and screen shot a load of these post so we can refer back later :D

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

Very good idea actually

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

Nice to see you keeping busy old bean.;)

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

I would if it was me think this is realistic

1tb TiVo £49 and due to the fact that it don't require 4K material I think £5.50 a month extra is enough

2tb 4K TiVo £99 and because it then has 4K £12 a month extra and some sort of early sign up promotion

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

Me too.

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

Yes and the design of the remote is awful too, if it isn't rolling off the coffee table it's hurting my hand trying to use the number keys one handed. This obviously refers to the current model but the new one looks frighteningly similar.

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

Here is a poll for our predications http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/11...-think-v6.html

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

The new one is designed to be used one-handed. And IIRC it has a flat bottom. (Personally I quite like curvy bottoms)

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

Ditto, but not on remotes ;)

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

Well Tom mockinridge says "By offering the same box with some regional variations, Liberty has been able to bring down the cost of deploying its generation receiver while improving the feature set"

Wow if he had not the box could have been £300

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

Maybe it`s just me but why do virgin charge anything for a new box when it`s never yours to keep? What would happen if everyone said "sorry virgin either give me a new box free of charge or I`l stick with what I`ve got"? i know it wouldn`t happen because they`l always be geeks willing to pay silly money to get the very latest.
When I was with Sky i paid for an extra box which had extra storage space for your recordings but the difference is the box is mine to keep forever and I can still use it,even record on it if I want to(albeit pay sky £5 a month). Now i know you don`t get to keep virgins boxes when you leave but that means virgin can re-sell a box over and over again! Nice little earner `eh!

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

Hi that's my thoughts exactly, sky's normal price is £99 for box which is installation and connection but the now it's all free. And the charge for UHD on sky is £12a month virgin media £15 a month. It's true sadly they can resell the box as much as they want, and charge as much as they want

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

Glad I`m not alone in thinking this way!

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

why do they release certain information on the new box just maybe to impress Sky i guess , with apps Netflix which you have to pay for and You Tube theres not much of 4k to look forward to maybe the odd movie on Virgin Movies etc

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

But you don't pay for repairs all call out with VM. Sky you either pay for a call out,(very expensive) or pay a monthly insurance which probably bring the monthly cost in line with VM.

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

VM doesn't offer UHD so where are you conjuring up £15pm from?

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Last time I checked the Sky recording fee was £11.50pm. And Sky's 4K HQ box remains Sky's property so their model is becoming more like VM's.

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

Not true. Servicing and repairs/replacements are free with Sky Q.

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

Do you expect Virgin to offer it for free? What happens when 2 million people all call up at the same time for the free box?

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

If they are following virgins model why are virgin wanting £200

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In theory it's not a UHD fee, TiVo is a £5.50 per month, the £15 is a user fee for the box

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With sky q it's free box, free call out and repairs and £12 a month with planned UHD movies and sports

with virgin box is £200 free call and repairs and £15 a month no confirmed UHD material

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

These figures are being banded about like confetti! We simply don't know what VM will charge and you seem to be ignoring the fact that Virgin have already given a pretty good indication that their new box will be cheaper than Sky Q.

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Where do you get the idea that Virgin will not have much 4K to offer? You are making some big assumptions here.

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

VM didn't officially release any pricing so that means nothing. There will be 4k that is all that got confirmed.

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

What happened with the reports that testing wasn't going well and that it wouldn't be released until 2017 or has that resulted in the decision to rush it out with the same software that is on the current Tivos as an interim measure until the non-Tivo replacement is ready?

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

Well sky movies and sky sports 4K for virgin hasn't been guaranteed, we should get bT sport 4K but because virgin customers on XL for free there MIGHT be an additional charge. We will get some on demand 4K to justify charging extra

1. Virgin on demand 4K - Very Likely

2. BT Sport 4K - Likely but maybe a extra charge

3. Sky sports and movies - Possable

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I think those issues have been worked on because they don't want to delay the release any later than they have to

---------- Post added at 16:27 ---------- Previous post was at 16:26 ----------

Well here is the thing if I'm wrong I will say I'm wrong but if I'm correct then not good times

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

Heloooooo

SH1 and SH3 ring any bells? Virgin release no matter what issues there is

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

Yes and the recent Tivo update is very fresh in my memory, especially with the standby recording failure bug at the first attempt. Every year it has been something like suggestions or padding, Dolby Digital etc. Series link+ is still a major downgrade as far as I am concerned but that is being discussed elsewhere as well as removing blue button from MyShows. Something is very fundamentally wrong IMO.

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

That came from one of our resident fantasists.

Do you seriously think that anybody who actually knows what's going on would post it here and risk their job?

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

Indeed SP