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Big Bang Bundle No extra channels. Talk 08 2 Talk Weekends TV Size M+ TiVo Monthly Fee Broadband Size: XL (Up To 100mb) Will my bill increase by £3.00? |
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I'm on the XL package, with 152mb BB and weekend calls for phone.
My current price is £81, £84 from september. While the same package on VM at the moment is £66 a month Time for a call this week I think. Problem is to get the same package on SKY with 40mb BB is £72.50 a month and £190 for installation and 2TB box so it's a no win situation |
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That's a lot as I pay £80 for TVXL, 152Mb, XXL phone and 2 Tivos. And that includes the £3 extra
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Just got the letter; unbelievable cheek another price rise. Like may others not interested in footy on TV. Watching local non-league football I will go to. Overpaid pointless premiership fodder watched and played by those with no connections to the cities involved is a pointless waste of time and money.
Is it just the XL package increasing ? i.e. if i downgraded i'd get no price rise plus a discount ? Looking at the channel line up (https://my.virginmedia.com/content/d...annelGuide.pdf) there's not much I'd miss from L either, so M+ might be the way to go. HD seems to be the main loss on some channels but unless you've a 50 foot tv a small price to pay. |
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This is what I have TV XL 2x TiVo BB 152mb Phone line + weekend and evening calls All that comes to around £65 I'd be getting on the phone and going through to the thinking of leaving us team you are over paying by around £20 a month at the moment ---------- Post added at 12:34 ---------- Previous post was at 12:33 ---------- Quote:
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In the small print of https://my.virginmedia.com/content/d...annelGuide.pdf it states "Non-TV XL customers can add channels to their package for an additional monthly charge." Does that mean you could downgrade to M and just add a few HD channels that you wanted? Anyone tried this?
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For those of us who think footy can GITFS and aren't fans of having to pay more for TV / broadband / line rental so that Sky and BT can hand over billions for rights it's not a great situation. |
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And now VM are playing the same game. I may withdraw my financial support. :mad: |
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Oh they will bend over backwards for you if do want sport its just tough luck if like me and thousands of others you don't. For us its just shut up and pay up. That's also why I will never go to Sky.
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Dropped down to L, got a £7 discount for 6 months and a loyalty discount of £5 for 18 months. Retained Talk Weekends and XXL BB
From £67 (would be £70 with the increase) to £50 for 6 months then £57 for the rest. Cant say I'll miss the few channels you lose doing that. |
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My letter has just arrived, Phoning them ASAP to show my disgust.
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But as per other posters, I can't stand football and resent the fact that it's "all or nothing" so far as the BT Sport "bundle" is concerned - obviously a tactic on BT's part. BT broadband in my area is no good, and apart from a longstanding peak-time utilisation problem (for which I'm getting a recurrent credit) I'm quite happy with VM and not about to move. |
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I phoned them and ended up cancelling the tv and going BB and phone only. The lassie on the phone didn't even bother to try and offer downgrade options for the tv.
Doubt i'll miss it but if I do I can always take it again at a later date. |
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Obviously as a sports and football fan i am pleased to be getting BT Europe with Champions League and Europa League in HD for a modest cost. Certainly cheaper than what i thought i would have to fork out.
Whilst i can see non sports fan not being too chuffed XL has increased in price due to this this was probably the most cost effective way to get the channel onto VM and minimise cost. There are plenty of channels in XL I rarely if ever watch but I accept they are part of the package i pay for. You could argue my sub (and other sports fans subs) contributes to other peoples viewing as well. Bit of swings and roundabouts. If you get into the argument i dont watch this channel in my pack or that channel so why should i pay for it then the whole thing breaks down. It all get fragmented, the buying power diminishes and it becomes more costly provide channels. End result we all end up paying even more. |
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After looking at the channel lists for L and XL, if I was able to pick and choose my own channel list there would be a lot of rejects.
But they have me over a barrel with this price increase (blatantly obviously to add the BT sport channel that I would never watch) because most of the channels I do watch are exclusive to XL. And I reckon they know this. |
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Not vm related but plusnet just announced all their tv customers will get bt sport lite free of charge which is btsport1 and bt sport extra, to get the other bt sport it is £5p/m not a bad deal considering their tv pack is only £5p/m anyway.
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Then there's the price compared to the newer entrants - £396 a year when £79 for Amazon Prime, £72 for Netflix and £84 for Now TV's entertainment pack give you more of the programmes you want to watch. |
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It's all pay TV, after all. |
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A deal was very quickly offered when I rang up.
Was paying £46.50 (plus LR) for TV XL, 50MB BB, M Phone, Tivo plus extra VHD box. Was offered the same package plus an increase to 100MB for £43.50 (plus LR) which includes the price rise. So a £3 decrease rather than increase plus a BB increase. |
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I changed from TV XL to L and reduced the package charge by ~£18. I was offered a reduction of ~£7 to stay on XL. I'm glad I phoned!
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Definitely worth a call if people are unhappy, seems to be some good deals being offered
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I just phone to see if I could get a better deal. I'm currently paying £59.99 a month for XL TV, XXL BB, and basic phone line which I never use.
They couldn't really offer me much as in lowering my monthly bill but was offered to downgrade my XXL broadband to 100mg for 50p a month more :confused: and they were going to throw in a "selection" (NOT all) of the movie channels free for 6 months. Has anyone else been offered this? I said I'll think about it and call back as I'm rubbish at haggling lol |
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That seems an odd one!
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For those thinking about downgrading or switching TV provider, Money Saving Expert and SKY have teamed up offering some great TV and broadband deals:
https://www.moneysavingexpert.com/br...tch/#/#bundle6 All-in' Sky TV for £17.25 per month. Comprising a free Sky+ HD box, free Family bundle & Sky Go Extra, and half-price Sky Sports & Movies. For HD Sports & Movies, add £5.25 month. That's cheaper than Virgin Media's More TV, pretty much Freeview with SKY basic channels, with a TiVo box! |
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Just received this (anyone else had it?):
What do you think of your products and price rises? Inbox x Virgin Media & eDigitalResearch <VirginMediaSurveys@edigitalresearch.com> Unsubscribe 22:14 (6 minutes ago) to me Logo Hello! This is a survey from Virgin Media about the products you have with us and your views on price rises. The questionnaire will take about 10 minutes to complete. Your feedback will help us understand more about customers’ perceptions of price increases, and their impact. As part of the project we are running a free draw for £300 worth of Amazon vouchers. *Terms & Conditions can be viewed by following the appropriate link at the bottom of this email. eDigitalResearch is an independent market research company that Virgin Media have asked to run this survey. All the data we collect is stored on a secure server and is covered by the eDigitalResearch Privacy Policy. If you’d like to take part just click below to get started. Click here to go to the survey. If this link does not work, please copy and paste it into your web browser. Thanks again for your help! The Virgin Media team |
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Edit: Have you filled it in yet? Was there anything interesting in the questionnaire? |
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I filled it in, gave Tivo a big serve - lack of apps, slow, poor box set choice (which are difficult to find unless you want to go through all those menus) etc.etc. They asked what I watched and this (the questioning) was very slewed towards sport. Asked if I intended to do anything about the price increase, said I already had, combo of BT+Sky.
Got the idea they're a bit concerned about cancellations. To add insult to injury, my BB was down again first thing - no phone, no TV. Rang to see what was happening & the recorded message said they were improving the services - I checked the calendar but it's August not April. 4th time in a fortnight I've lost all services, came back on this afternoon. August 21 is my changeover date - can't wait. EDIT: Don't think I'll be winning any prizes in the big draw. |
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Not looking good for Virgin on the TV front. Latest results show they've lost 19,000 TV customers in UK and Ireland. I think Virgin are the only TV provider in the UK to have virtually no growth, in terms of TV subscription numbers, in the past 5 years. In fact I think Virgin, in the UK, have had about the same numbers of subscribers for nearly 8 years. |
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I never get these surveys anyone do this happen to anyone else
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They need to go about sorting these problems as a matter of urgency rather than being so laid back about it all. They will start losing customers at an alarming rate if they carry on like this. Such a shame, they were starting to do so well last year but now seem to have gone into reverse. They are taking their eye off the ball in this fast paced game. |
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I think they whole market has shifted over the last few years. The differentiators that cable had over terrestial TV - multiple channels, pay movies, catch-up services, on-demand box sets have been staedily narrowed. If you cancelled cable TV in the past you could lose all these services and just have five channels. With YouView and apps the difference is a lot narrower. I think VM and Sky will continue to come under attack from the likes of BT and TalkTalk. I think VM's investment in a bigger network is a sensible step forward. |
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If that became part of VM'S strategy, I have no doubt at all that deals could be done. If TV manufacturers can do it, so can Virgin. With a well thought out strategy, VM could make money, not lose money from this. |
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I rule out Now TV coming to VM as it's too much of a substitute for VM's own TV service. I don't rule out Amazon Prime. Nor do I rule out apps like Curzon Home Cinema and TED Talks which are available elsewhere and complement not cannibalise VM's existing content offerings. |
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At the time of the Netflix addition, cord cutting was a relatively unknown term in the UK. And although it is more well known now, it is probably far from being on the 'to do' list of the vast majority of people, So services such as Amazon may arrive on Tivo. But VM must be looking at future trends in these decisions and trying to estimate the growth rate of those that will cut the cord and at what point in the future, that number will be significant enough to affect it's pay TV offering. |
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Just called in and got £36 back am not paying for BT Sports
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Frankly, if people are going to favour the likes of Netflix over their cable pay channels, they will do it anyway, regardless as to whether it is on Tivo. Whereas if everything is on the Tivo and they upgrade the box so that it works more quickly, more people will be persuaded to stick with VM. |
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Where I think the market gap exists is in a box with all the streaming services, but this would be something you would pay for as oppose to coming from a cable or satellite provider. And could you still get the likes of iTunes on it? |
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Been looking at options to change as don't want to pay the extra £3 and XL looking too expensive now anyway.
Just called and had a few options given to me, but one thing which has caught me out is that if I change from XL to L TV I was told it means I am now in a 12 month contract for ALL services including BB/phone. I was anticipating I would be agreeing to a new 12 month contract TV only not all services (all my services inc. BB/phone are outside contract by the way). I was offered a bundle discount in moving down from XL and L TV and keeping my BB/phone, which may heave meant everything has to be for another 12 months, but was wondering that if you just normally change one item in your package (e.g. XL to L TV with no discount) does it normally "lock you in" for all other items in your package? Any views? My situation is different in that I am employee by BT and employees have the option to have BT Infinity at no annual cost with only an upfront fee to pay. So one option I am thinking of is to keep L TV only and cancel the rest as we like the 3 tuner flexibility of Tivo if you want to record 2 channels and want to watch another all at the same time. Just to complicate it further I have an annual phone line saver running until December so was thinking of not cancelling the BB/phone until around November and just leaving L TV. But now been told any chance locks me in for 12 months on my whole package, so a case of doing something now or wait until November. My hope was to change TV now to L and then decide on BB/Phone in November but it seems if I do anything at all, I cannot cancel anything in the whole package which is XL TV, 50MB BB and M phone. Does this all sound correct? |
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FAQ: AMC UK
http://www.a516digital.com/2015/08/faq-amc-uk.html and: Ofcom intervenes over BT Sport "unfair contract terms" http://www.a516digital.com/2015/08/o...rt-unfair.html posted this elsewhere by mistake |
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Yes indeed they are as bad as each other that's for sure.:(
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I'll stick with Kodi.
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And i was calling vm money grabbers i take it all back. |
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We had BT once many moons ago and they were dreadful and we vowed then that we would never go back to them again.
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I didn't mind the upfront cost as I'll be saving close to £30pm by not paying for so-called entertainment & documentary channels that I never watch. Admittedly the BB isn't as good but again, I knew that before signing up and it's more than adequate for me. |
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I wish you luck. From what I gather, sign-ups have been running at a very high rate and new staff are being thrown in at the deep end and are having trouble coping. I think their deal is a good one and its a shame that their management didn't plan ahead and have all this sorted well before the season starts. I hope you get what you want. |
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Yes sounds like an inconsistent message and I was suspicious as out of contract on all 3 services. I was offered an option to move to L TV with a BB/phone package and a £7 reduction on the package price for a " very limited time". So on that basis I would expect the whole package to be on a 12 month contract basis as that is the "deal". But if I just moved from XL and L TV on my current package of services and did nothing else then would only expect a 12 month contract period for TV only. I am going to check more and do a few calculations before deciding between keeping the full VM package I have or move to BT for BB/phone and keep TV only with VM (I want the multiple recording capability Tivo delivers to create our own "box sets" of series which we tend to watch later even after a series is finished). |
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I would not be at all surprised if it just appeared with an announcement the day before! |
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Any proof that we are going to get it Andrew?.
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I did read an interview with BT a month ago when the question was posed to them and they said they wouldn't rule out making it available to BT Sport subscribers on VM. Annoyingly, I can't find it at the moment but if I do I will re-post it. |
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It's a bit of a dilemma, if you're on a package lower than XL and paying full price for BT Sport you'd have every right to be a bit miffed if you couldn't get it.
On the other hand if it was made available to those punters then people on XL would feel miffed. |
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Well a bit of a result, after phoning up and initially getting told I had to drop the XL pack to avoid the £3 increase I threatened to cancel. Passed through to the disconnections team and now have a range of discounts that will reduce my bill after the increase takes effect by over £12 a month :)
But beware, Virgin Media do know what channels you are watching. If you phone and say you don't watch sports, they will see if you are telling porkies. |
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notice on bt sport Europe score and dog on top much better now bt do that on premier league too
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Although BT negotiation with VM has been successful so far this might be a step too far; we already see ultra HD and the extras channels HD remaining BT exclusives |
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Despite the swirl of rumours, my optimism in AMC arriving has fallen off a bit but not totally following a bit of research. Specifically, the other distributors for BT Sport (Plusnet and Setanta) aren't offering AMC. But let's see what the end of the month brings. |
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You should have said if they buy you a nice 4K TV then you'll consider it :D |
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Rumours are one thing , actual substantiation of those rumours is another OB.
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As I've said before, BT are not Sky and I think they will do more to break down barriers and make channels more accessible to consumers who are not on the BT platform. |
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Where can I find this latest amc rumour?
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Also from what i've seen scattered about the net BT will be showing some AMC stuff on BT Showcase too. |
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Saw the ad, possibly during the football last night, that the first episode of fear of the walking dead would be on bt showcase
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Thanks
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