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Why does that remind me of the old Orange Livebox........

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Is this the kit we're likely to trial to replace the SH2?

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2 telephone sockets? Is this the VoIP we have been looking for? Are we finally moving away from POTS lines? Would be amazing if line rental was to go too!

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You forgot the pic from the front ;)

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2015/09/1.jpeg

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Now that's interesting. VoIP as standard, as we suspected. However this stood out for me:

I believe the suggested rollout for DOCSIS3.1 is to start with the CPE and upgrade the network later, so this makes sense. Very exciting and somewhat unexpected.

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Line rental is going nowhere.

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Ignition has been adamant it's a no, and D3.1 isn't required for anything they're releasing here anytime soon. The VoC capabilities rely on packetcable, not D3.1

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I am moving into a new house next month and am contemplating just getting a broadband service only from Virginmedia and using VoIP. Does anyone here have a similar setup?

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I was also adamant that it'd be off the shelf kit. I was wrong.

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About the off-the-shelf kit, DOCSIS 3.1, or both? Hmm... :naughty:

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Having had an email about the trial, and then nothing for sometime, if it has been delayed, it would have been nice for a follow up email to advise.

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I don't think VoIP and D3.1 are related in any way and didn't mean to imply that. However, even if Virgin isn't ready to start rolling out 3.1 at a network level, there's nothing wrong with them shipping modems with the capability ready to go. It would make future speed boosts much easier as it won't necessarily rely on furnishing customers with newer devices. The current round of speed boosts are very much pushing the limits of what the Superhubs can do and I'd be surprised if they allow anyone on 300mbit with an existing device.

Even without speed boosts, even for customers on lower tiers, it's probably better for Virgin to use 3.1 for the capacity benefits. Just have to see how it pans out, I agree that I doubt Virgin has plans to roll it out any time soon.

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I'm going to assume it will be docsis 3.1 ready because comcast in the US are already rolling out docsis 3.1 modems to new customers, so I have heard, even though the network doesn't support it yet.

It would at least make sense to start the switch to the 3.1 modems before the network supports it.

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But from what I read the only modem with 3.1 is still on trials...VM will be the first to get it?

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There was a document floating a while back suggesting to the large ISPs that this is how they should do their deployment. It makes sense.

Who knows, it would be a good opportunity to deploy it but Virgin has plenty of time in this regard. We'll have to wait and see.

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Well it's quicker to replace a line card in a rack or even an entire rack's worth of equipment than a replace few hundred users' boxes at home.

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Not just yet. They unveiled it but aren't handing it out just yet.

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Both! I thought it was a 24x8 channel DOCSIS 3.0 only gateway.

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Modem mode?

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One can hope. Do the other UPC devices have a modem mode?

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I'm sure the OCD lot will love the different font sizes on the back of that thing.

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Something tells me the final units will look less.....retro.

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Be nice if they gave a free DDI to the top broadband tier. I used to have a cisco phone connected to sipgate that came in handy if the misses wasnt answering her mobile. They updated the superhub and broke something with the VOIP and the phone ended up in the loft since.

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Why top only, we're all on the trial?

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Going forward since the lowest speed tier would probably be good enough for most people now it's reached 100mb. They could do something to sweeten the bigger tiers.

I could drop from the highest tier down to the lowest when the speed upgrades happen and other than the upload it won't be a massive difference.

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I may even consider dropping back down to 100mbit as i am not 1 of these e-penis types that dream about broadband speed.

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I know a few e-penis types who dream about something else!

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Hope its not white my set up is black on a white desk

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Spray paint it.

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I know a few who I suspect conflate the two.

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It would be nice to get more info on this modem, at present all we have is a cream coloured box, not even any lights on it.

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It looks quite big compared to a regular router

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Yes if you go by the size of the sockets on the back then you can tell it is a bit taller as it has those 2 extra TEL sockets on the back that the SH2 doesn't have and it also appears a little wider.

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Internet spaceships.

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thought trial would be well up running by now, 2 weeks till supposed start to upgrades.
cutting it fine, me thinks :)

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That bit of kit isn't going to be needed next month.

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Exactly 1 month now since i received the email, it would be nice if they gave us some kind of an update!

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colour scheme is urrrgh for me, I prefer black.

As of now VM are still the only provider to add modem aka bridge mode to their devices I am aware off so kudos for them doing that.

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Some other LGI companies do it too (but not all of them do)

https://support-en.upc-cablecom.ch/a...Aqdkl3bQ%3D%3D

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Me too. I keep mine in the TV unit (also black) so will have to find somewhere else to put it when it comes out. Can't please everyone though, i imagine the new colour will suit other people.

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I seriously doubt that colour is the final colour. That's the colour you make things when you haven't decided on or revealed the final shell.

Back when I used to work for Sony, when the PS3 slim was still a rumour, we had a PS3 sat on a desk in the same SNES grey colours. Few months later, PS3 Slim is announced with the same model number as that thing.

Come to think of it, it had the same shape as the PS4 does now. Interesting.

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There is some info here

http://www.neowin.net/news/virgin-me...ew-superhub-v3

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Nah, they've just read the same article as above and posted a clickbaity headline.

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http://www.broadbandtvnews.com/2015/...io-of-devices/

Recon we will be testing the above...

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Aren't these "SoC"s?

From what I gather, there are only few docsis 3.1 modems (prototypes) with Comcast employees for testing purposes.

I saw the photos with the white VM logo on it but I am skeptical.

I guess VM changed its mind and they will wait for a few months for the new boxes to become available. Probably the trial will take place when they are ready.

The superhub 2ac probably will be able to handle the 300Mbts in the mean time. That's my guess.

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The Superhub 2 is not getting the 300Mb released onto it.

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Interesting, though the network is already 800Mb in places, just needs the right CPE to tune all the channels.

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Then it better have modem mode, or I will have to downgrade from 152Mb/s to 200Mb/s (!) just to keep my current setup (not double NAT'ing).

I know this may all be in the plan and I worrying unnecessarily, but whenever people mention using a Liberty piece of kit I get nervous!

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I just re-read that article.

So a cable home gateway is rumoured to have a coaxial connector? :rofl:

An on/off switch too? Liberty are spoiling the UK.

It's really not possible one of the Ethernet ports will be WAN. It will have the phone ports. DOCSIS 3.1 is about the only thing that's 'rumoured'.

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I think this is just poor "journalism" from Neowin. This is sad, as I used to write for them.

I can only presume that by "WAN" they are referring to the WAN out (or whatever the proper term is) of Modem mode. Who knows, though.

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I don't see how/why one of them should be WAN seeing as it has coax going to the WAN. For modem mode, one switch port has to be active - that's all.

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That's what I mean, I think it's a misunderstanding and misuse of terms on their part. Given the rest of the article, that's hardly a surprise.

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Get ready Testers it's coming!

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We need more info spill the beans! ;)

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I bet you say that to all the girls.

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... in "around 3 weeks"

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3 Weeks to go You should all have a email

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What makes you think he's only into girls?

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I am ;)

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3 weeks? Plenty of time to rollout DOCSIS3.1 to the core nodes, then :P

It's a weekday. He saves the weekends for the boys.

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Three weeks is an eternity, it's like waiting for Christmas :(

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That is not soon at all i want feed back from them!

edit

Oh i got an email from them telling me 3 weeks!

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Lol, waiting for an unknown test router is like Christmas? And I thought I was a router nerd.

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Well there are flashing lights and a box we don't know the contents of.

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Purely speculation!

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Well, at least one of them is bound to burst into flames.

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To each their own. :)

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I wonder if they will give us 300Mb as well as the new shub

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You mean early upgrades? 300meg all round no.

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when is the 3 week time up?

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In 3 weeks.

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I'm glad I saw this on here as the email never mentioned which trial it was talking about but now it looks like it was the SH3.
Email was sent 3 days ago but I wouldn't hold my breath with the 3 weeks thing.

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Well to be fair, how many VM trials are you currently enrolled in? :confused:

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whats this email you got?
is this different than the original link in post #1?

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Yeah, it was a "We’re sorry for the delay" email.

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I wanted to be a part of this trial, but due to lack of activity on the forum and busy working long hours in the summer hadn't been on in a while so I missed the application deadline. Applied anyway, but predictably nothing back.

So I hope that once its released I can get one without the whole "whatever is on the van" problem.

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I suspect that the new hardware will initially be a "premium" product. If you think about it, the modem has to reach beyond 8 downstream channels and if VM want to go fast, that's what's needed. i.e. the 100 meg tier certainly won't need one.

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Atleast people on the lower tiers like myself and on the trial can keep using the modem after the trial ends.

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The technical spec of the Compal CH7465 modem is as follows:

1. EuroDOCSIS 3.0 Cable modem supporting 24 downstream channels and 8 upstream channels
2. 802.11ac Wi-Fi
3. Includes 2.4Ghz and 5 GHz frequency bands

PDF english - https://infotomb.com/truac.pdf thanks to RainmakerRaw

PDF *Not english* - https://www.upc.cz/pdf/manualy_inet/..._manual_v5.pdf

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Google Translate does a decent job of the PDF if you upload it to their site. I have uploaded it in English here for whomever fancies a browse.

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Well lets just say more than this one but another one had said sorry we are delayed until further notice so I actually had wrongly assumed it was that one as I never heard any more after being selected for the BB hardware trial.

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As to which manufacturer of the new modem/router - people need to clear their minds and remember that Virgin Media works with established names.

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Where's this come from? What links this and Virgin?

The last 4 hubs have been made by netgear, I'm going to go ahead and guess that the next one will be made by netgear as well.

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They mention modem mode in that pdf so I'm happy :)

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The photo of the router in the .cz pdf is the same as the router we've seen with VM branding so it seems pretty likely.

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The info come from - http://www.boards.ie/ttfpost/97063341

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http://www.broadbandtvnews.com/2015/...w-connect-box/

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Aha, this was the bit I was missing. Guess that confirms it's not DC3.1, but that was a long shot anyway.

I hope they change the bloody colour.

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I have clicked on the UK version of the pdf file and I get the following error.

“Adobe Acrobat Reader DC could not open truac.pdf because it is either not a supported file type or damaged, for example it was sent as an email attachment and was not correctly decoded.”
I am using the latest Adobe Acrobat Reader DC
Any ideas?

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Dump Adobe Reader and use Foxit instead ..... ;)

Or, you could try saving the PDF first and then try to open it?

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Or Sumatra. Or basically any number of open, free PDF readers.

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As you suggested I saved it then opened it in Acrobat Reader

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Hang on a sec, is this just some re-branded generic Chinese modem and they've dumped netgear?

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What makes you think they've dropped Netgear? Nobody knows on Virginmedia and the company making it

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It's not up to virgin to pick a maker it's up to liberty global now - http://community.virginmedia.com/t5/...2911955#M12680

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All signs point to COMPAL unless the UK stay with netgear

http://www.icbn.com.tw/category1s/category1_lists_en shows some of the catalogue. Cant say i'm much of fan of generic unheard of stuff but will see what shows up in a few weeks. Netgear couldnt even fix the voip issues with the superhub maybe these will do a better job.

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The Virgin Media logo on the one further up the page.

The last 4 hubs weren't shared by Liberty Global.

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And Netgear isn't?

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So Acer, Dell, Lenovo, Toshiba, HP and Fujitsu are "generic unheard of stuff" to you then?

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Indeed.

I remember someone, long ago, protesting at NTL's use of Ambit modems whilst proudly displaying a long list of Apple, Sony and Microsoft kit in their sig...

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Wrong Thread FACEPALM

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Ambit 255 was a great modem :(

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So was the Ambit 300.

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Compal or Arris.

FYI, as far as cable modems go Netgear are far closer to 'generic unheard of stuff' than Compal. We don't hear about these companies as we can't buy our own kit and attach it to the cable network.

Either way the UK isn't staying with Netgear. The ideal would be a common CPE and, indeed, CMTS platform, for the entire LG family.

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It does make a lot more sense to standardise the kit. It makes sense from a support and training perspective, as well as from an economic perspective - economies of scale from buying devices in the 10's of millions.