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Sirius 25-03-2015 15:45

Re: Top Gear will not be broadcast this Sunday
 
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Originally Posted by Rob (Post 35767238)
The investigation found, and it is noted that nobody is claiming to dispute it's findings, that Clarkson not only hit the other guy, to the extent that a visit to A&E was warranted, but also verbally abused him for some time even after he was pulled away after the assault.

The BBC had no choice but to get rid of Clarkson. One cannot have any sympathy, or get upset that he had to go.

Clarkson had to go i agree, however i dont like the BBC will never like the BBC. I just hope that they end up losing a shed full of money over this. :D

denphone 25-03-2015 15:46

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Originally Posted by Rob (Post 35767238)
The investigation found, and it is noted that nobody is claiming to dispute it's findings, that Clarkson not only hit the other guy, to the extent that a visit to A&E was warranted, but also verbally abused him for some time even after he was pulled away after the assault.

The BBC had no choice but to get rid of Clarkson. One cannot have any sympathy, or get upset that he had to go.

+1

adzii_nufc 25-03-2015 15:51

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Probably warranted a sacking but it's hardly the end for him is it? If Matthew Broderick can kill two people and continue to have a movie career then I'm sure Clarkson will manage.

Now all we need is a black hole to swallow up the BBC.

Sirius 25-03-2015 16:16

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Originally Posted by adzii_nufc (Post 35767246)
Probably warranted a sacking but it's hardly the end for him is it? If Matthew Broderick can kill two people and continue to have a movie career then I'm sure Clarkson will manage.

Now all we need is a black hole to swallow up the BBC.

May has already said they are a package its all or none :)

Julian 25-03-2015 16:17

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James May - We are a package

Damien 25-03-2015 16:17

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Sky have ruled out employing Clarkson.

ITV or Netflix?

Sirius 25-03-2015 16:22

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35767260)
Sky have ruled out employing Clarkson.

ITV or Netflix?

I think Itv

Damien 25-03-2015 16:27

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Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35767261)
I think Itv

Maybe but the issue is always the dependency on advertisers. I don't see ITV turning down a Ford advert, or even sponsorship, on the condition that their cars aren't slagged off. It's why Netflix might be worth a shout.

Gavin78 25-03-2015 16:30

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There goes the price hike on my tv licence to recover lost costs the show brought in

Damien 25-03-2015 16:31

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Turns out the police are investigating:

http://www.theguardian.com/media/liv...b0e465816dae5d

rhyds 25-03-2015 16:32

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ITV won't do it, as any criticism of any car or product will lead to a loss in advertising revenue from the company concerned.

Netflix is a strong possibility.

Sirius 25-03-2015 16:34

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Originally Posted by Gavin78 (Post 35767269)
There goes the price hike on my tv licence to recover lost costs the show brought in

Indeed :)

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Originally Posted by rhyds (Post 35767274)
ITV won't do it, as any criticism of any car or product will lead to a loss in advertising revenue from the company concerned.

Netflix is a strong possibility.

If that is the case then Netflix will be getting a new subscription from me :)

Osem 25-03-2015 17:17

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Now a painful thorn has been removed from their side, I dare say a good few bottles of fizz will be popped amongst the great and the good at the Beeb. Wonder if any of it will find it's way onto expenses...

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It's ironic that JC was so instrumental in his own downfall but it certainly appears there was little room for manoeuvre.

I dare say the choice of his successor, if indeed there is one, will reveal a lot about the BBC hierarchy's feeling's about JC's outlook and humour. Are we going to get an equally irreverent personality or someone whose face fits? If there is a new series it'll be interesting to see how the viewing figures compare.

MalteseFalcon 25-03-2015 18:10

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Doubt they will have a series if May and Hammond carry out their threat and walk from the BBC. I will not be watching Top Gear at all on BBC now without Clarkson. Bloody fools.

Damien 25-03-2015 18:22

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Originally Posted by MarkC1984 (Post 35767306)
Doubt they will have a series if May and Hammond carry out their threat and walk from the BBC. I will not be watching Top Gear at all on BBC now without Clarkson. Bloody fools.

Again. Not really anything they could do.

Top Gear will continue but how is the question. I think May and Hammond will leave but they might wait to see what offers come in for them as a trio. No point leaving the BBC until they have an offer unless they simply don't want to do the show either way.

I think the series might do ok if they managed to keep the other two and got it right on the host. The Top Gear production team and writers also don't get enough credit for the show. The stunts, the races, the locations and the concepts are ultimately organised by them. I think they could continue to make a success with the show if they got the right host for that format.

Osem 25-03-2015 18:25

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Maybe they'll all bugger off from the Beeb... :D

Mick Fisher 25-03-2015 18:29

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35767023)
No indeed as the bookies have Jodie Kidd as the strong favourite this morning to replace Clarkson.

I started watching The Classic Car Show and quickly realised what a plank she is and promptly deleted the series link.

Top Gear is in enough, probably terminal, trouble without inflicting her upon it.

Sirius 25-03-2015 18:30

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35767308)
Again. Not really anything they could do.

Top Gear will continue but how is the question. I think May and Hammond will leave but they might wait to see what offers come in for them as a trio. No point leaving the BBC until they have an offer unless they simply don't want to do the show either way.

I think the series might do ok if they managed to keep the other two and got it right on the host. The Top Gear production team and writers also don't get enough credit for the show. The stunts, the races, the locations and the concepts are ultimately organised by them. I think they could continue to make a success with the show if they got the right host for that format.

There is not much time for a decision as there contracts run out next week. As for keeping the other two i think you will see the devil ice-skating to work before that.

rhyds 25-03-2015 18:30

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Originally Posted by Osem (Post 35767310)
Maybe they'll all bugger off from the Beeb... :D

The problem is which broadcaster has the money to bankroll the show, and the creative freedom (Read: Not dependant on keeping advertisers happy) to stage it?

Netflix?

Discovery?

Sirius 25-03-2015 18:35

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Originally Posted by rhyds (Post 35767313)
The problem is which broadcaster has the money to bankroll the show, and the creative freedom (Read: Not dependant on keeping advertisers happy) to stage it?

Netflix?

Discovery?

Considering the money it can make it could end up bank rolling it's self. I believe that's how it was on the BBC.

Would love to see how much this will end up costing the BBC in the long run. :LOL:

Osem 25-03-2015 18:49

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I heard a rumour that Jenny Jones* is in the running to replace Clarkson in a revamped show devoid of testosterone and internal combustion engines. In a thinly disguised reference to Clarkson, the new show is to be called 'On Yer Bike'... :D

* http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jenny_J...een_politician)

heero_yuy 25-03-2015 18:54

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Originally Posted by Osem (Post 35767320)
I heard a rumour that Jenny Jones* is in the running to replace Clarkson in a revamped show devoid of testosterone and internal combustion engines. In a thinly disguised reference to Clarkson, the new show is to be called 'On Yer Bike'... :D

* http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jenny_J...een_politician)

Claire Balding surely.:D

Osem 25-03-2015 18:58

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Originally Posted by heero_yuy (Post 35767322)
Claire Balding surely.:D

Now, now... :nono:

:D

Gary L 25-03-2015 19:22

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Hurray!

Now we just need the arrogant Dave to get the sack and we'll all be happy.

Hugh 25-03-2015 19:39

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No, we won't "all" be happy - you would be, and others of your ilk....

Hom3r 25-03-2015 19:47

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Hammond & May will follow Clarkson.

The Stig, is a different kettle of fish.

I Clarkson own the rights (like Noel Edmonds own Mr Blobby), then the Stig will follow.

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The Stig remains silent in Clarksons sacking :D

Gary L 25-03-2015 19:56

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35767341)
No, we won't "all" be happy - you would be, and others of your ilk....

You will be.

trust me.

heero_yuy 25-03-2015 20:08

Re: Top Gear will not be broadcast this Sunday
 
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Originally Posted by Hom3r (Post 35767342)
Hammond & May will follow Clarkson.

The Stig, is a different kettle of fish.

I Clarkson own the rights (like Noel Edmonds own Mr Blobby), then the Stig will follow.

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The stig is always the mystery man so is replaceable as is already done.
The BBC might think they "own" Top Gear but the real franchise is JC and mates.

Sirius 25-03-2015 20:16

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Originally Posted by heero_yuy (Post 35767354)
The stig is always the mystery man so is replaceable as is already done.
The BBC might think they "own" Top Gear but the real franchise is JC and mates.

:tu:

Hugh 25-03-2015 20:19

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Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 35767351)
You will be.

trust me.

A) no, I won't

B) I'd trust Ed Balls before I'd trust you, and I will never trust Ed Ballss

Stephen 25-03-2015 20:59

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I for one am gutted and even if the other two stay would not watch anymore.

No matter what folk say Clarkson was Top Gear.

Without him it would be the three stooges without Larry.

Sirius 25-03-2015 21:03

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Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 35767363)
I for one am gutted and even if the other two stay would not watch anymore.

No matter what folk say Clarkson was Top Gear.

Without him it would be the three stooges without Larry.

I cannot wait to see who they pick to replace Clarkson, May and Hammond, lets face it the three of them will not be in the new BBC approved top gear.

Stephen 25-03-2015 21:08

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Who ever they get it will fail.

Those three made the show. That's the reason there was such a waiting list for tickets for the studio.

Sirius 25-03-2015 21:38

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Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 35767368)
Who ever they get it will fail.

Those three made the show. That's the reason there was such a waiting list for tickets for the studio.

So glad i have all the episodes on my PC so i can carry on getting my fix until they hopefully start a new program with another provider. :D

There is now nothing at all on the BBC for me to watch.

Jimmy-J 25-03-2015 21:59

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Clarkson can't be replaced, there's nobody good enough, Clarkson, Hammond and May are / were Top Gear.

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Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35767374)
There is now nothing at all on the BBC for me to watch.

You'll still have to pay them the license fee. :p: :D

Damien 25-03-2015 22:17

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Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 35767368)
Who ever they get it will fail.

Those three made the show. That's the reason there was such a waiting list for tickets for the studio.

They are a massive loss but it will now be interesting to see what they do. I still think people underestimate the role of the background team that put Top Gear together. They won't have the same show anymore, they'll have to change it.

Sirius 25-03-2015 22:23

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Originally Posted by Jimmy-J (Post 35767376)



You'll still have to pay them the license fee. :p: :D

And that's the biggest **** take of it all :mad:

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35767381)
They are a massive loss but it will now be interesting to see what they do. I still think people underestimate the role of the background team that put Top Gear together.

They were not the people that the viewers saw each week however, any new team will fall flat on there face's no matter how good the people in the back ground are. It was the interaction of three middle aged men who still thought the were teenagers that attracted viewers.

Damien 25-03-2015 22:36

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Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35767382)
They were not the people that the viewers saw each week however, any new team will fall flat on there face's no matter how good the people in the back ground are. It was the interaction of three middle aged men who still thought the were teenagers that attracted viewers.

The show was popular because of the chemistry of the trio. There is no denying that. However every show has the people in front of the camera being supported by the people at the back of it. Just because they're not seen doesn't mean they were not influential and the Top Gear production staff are obviously very good. Outside of the chemistry the show also did well because of the outlandish nature of their reviews, races and stunts. They needed creative writers and talented people to put those together.

I don't think Top Gear will do as well anymore but I am not sure it will fail.

Jimmy-J 25-03-2015 22:37

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Whoever they get to replace him will have to be black, female and gay, with a disability. :D

Sirius 25-03-2015 22:39

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Originally Posted by Jimmy-J (Post 35767389)
Whoever they get to replace him will have to be black, female and gay, with a disability. :D

Add Ecomentilist to that list :LOL:

Hom3r 25-03-2015 22:40

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Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 35767368)
Who ever they get it will fail.

Those three made the show. That's the reason there was such a waiting list for tickets for the studio.

I was about 10 years waiting with another 8 years to go.:mad:

Jimmy-J 25-03-2015 22:43

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Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35767390)
Add Ecomentilist to that list :LOL:

Oh yeah, can't leave that one out. :D

Pierre 25-03-2015 22:46

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It may well carry on, but I won't watch it.

Jimmy-J 25-03-2015 22:48

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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 35767394)
It may well carry on, but I won't watch it.

It would be like replacing Laurel and Hardy with Little and Large.

Sirius 25-03-2015 22:48

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Originally Posted by Jimmy-J (Post 35767392)
Oh yeah, can't leave that one out. :D

Can you imagine it "Star in an electric car" instead of lap times it will be how many laps can you make before you need a recharge. :D

Jimmy-J 25-03-2015 22:51

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Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35767396)
Can you imagine it "Star in an electric car" instead of lap times it will be how many laps can you make before you need a recharge. :D

Yeah, probably a Sinclair C5.

Sirius 25-03-2015 22:52

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Originally Posted by Jimmy-J (Post 35767397)
Yeah, probably a Sinclair C5.

No way it will be to fast. :D

Hom3r 25-03-2015 23:00

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Peter Docherty was over Top Gear, but cancelled when he discovered it was a car program. :D

Jimmy-J 25-03-2015 23:02

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Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35767398)
No way it will be to fast. :D

More like this then... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BuPJoA9gIro

Or even better still... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGGlODF7_RY

Pimp my Farthing! :D

Damien 25-03-2015 23:09

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To be honest they well just be happy with someone who doesn't hit the other members of staff...

Gary L 25-03-2015 23:10

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35767358)
A) no, I won't

B) I'd trust Ed Balls before I'd trust you, and I will never trust Ed Ballss

1) I believe you

Uncle Peter 26-03-2015 00:30

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My vote's for Vic and Bob with Charlie Chuck as Captain Slow

TheDaddy 26-03-2015 05:54

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Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35767396)
Can you imagine it "Star in an electric car" instead of lap times it will be how many laps can you make before you need a recharge. :D

And if it doesn't run out of juice and they all get bored they could push it of and make out it had

http://www.theguardian.com/media/200...a-electric-car

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35767404)
To be honest they well just be happy with someone who doesn't hit the other members of staff...

Yeah, good old BBC, rape all the children you want, just don't punch the staff

broadbandking 26-03-2015 06:46

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Glad he is gone up himself **** and as for throwing his toys out the pram because there is no hot food what a knob, I am sure with his millions he could have got one of his lackys to get him a maccies.

Damien 26-03-2015 09:49

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Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 35767416)

Yeah, good old BBC, rape all the children you want, just don't punch the staff

It's a good line going around but I don't think the BBC should be consistent with their mistakes from decades ago. They can't fix the mistakes from the past but they can ensure they operate correctly now and in this incidence they did what they were obliged to do.

richard s 26-03-2015 10:06

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To true.

Kursk 26-03-2015 17:19

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What I can't understand is why so many people are supportive of someone who verbally and physically abuses a work colleague?

Having said that, if he had punched the vertically-challenged one and wrapped that hideous orange Zonda around his head, it would have made me smile :D

denphone 26-03-2015 17:32

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Indeed how some can support him beggars belief as there are simply no excuses for what he did.

Hugh 26-03-2015 18:35

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But, but, but.....


BBC, PC, Left-wing namby-pamby tree-huggers, etc. etc.

Also, Nazis.....;)

papa smurf 26-03-2015 20:01

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i feel like lamping someone at work at least once per week ;)

MalteseFalcon 26-03-2015 20:15

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I read somewhere today that the Director General of the BBC bit someone on the ear years ago. The truth is clear, without the work Clarkson put in building the brand of Top Gear up then the BBC would have £65 million less a year.

Regardless of this incident, you cannot deny he is pretty much Top Gear to a lot of fans, fans who will not watch it with anyone other than Clarkson in. Including me.

Gary L 26-03-2015 20:22

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Originally Posted by MarkC1984 (Post 35767613)
Regardless of this incident, you cannot deny he is pretty much Top Gear to a lot of fans, fans who will not watch it with anyone other than Clarkson in. Including me.

You usualy find that they say one thing but do another.

it happens with Big Brother all the time.
they say "The show's ruined for me... I'm off. not watching it no more!"

but they still are.

MalteseFalcon 26-03-2015 20:24

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True. Be interesting to see what viewing figures are for the new look Top Gear without Clarkson.

Stephen 26-03-2015 21:23

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35767564)
Indeed how some can support him beggars belief as there are simply no excuses for what he did.

I personally never supported or defended him but like millions of others love Top Gear and it was Clarkson, Hammond and May that made the program what it is. Without one or all of them it simply won't be as entertaining or a good IMO.

Hom3r 26-03-2015 22:16

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I nearly did a Clarkson at work today.

I was off for 2 days after a gout attack, and the manager we have to see to get a sick for from wanted to see me, but he didn't. After the current situation I'm in I will lose it with him, exRAF or not.

denphone 27-03-2015 06:10

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Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 35767640)
I personally never supported or defended him but like millions of others love Top Gear and it was Clarkson, Hammond and May that made the program what it is. Without one or all of them it simply won't be as entertaining or a good IMO.

Personally l think its finished now Stephen as yes JC is entertaining at times but like most long running shows its well past its sell by date now.

Chris 27-03-2015 08:52

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35767690)
Personally l think its finished now Stephen as yes JC is entertaining at times but like most long running shows its well past its sell by date now.

Viewing figures and global earnings say you're wrong about that.

Make no mistake, the BBC will try very hard indeed to keep it going with new presenters.

Osem 27-03-2015 09:06

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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 35767697)
Viewing figures and global earnings say you're wrong about that.

Make no mistake, the BBC will try very hard indeed to keep it going with new presenters.

Yes, it'll be interesting to see the direction they choose - male or female for example? There'll be plenty of pressure from within (and without) the Beeb to mollify all the testosterone with a dose of oestrogen.

Then there'll be personality - will JC's replacement have one or will they opt for yet another bland, inoffensive, left leaning, 'face which fits'? I dare say that female German Nurburgring specialist Sabine Schmitz would tick a number of boxes, including diplomatic ones, but would have the downside of inducing within the male viewers and presenters certain traits the Beeb might deem unsuitable for a family show... :)

Anyway, it'll be a hard act to follow for whoever they choose. JC's humour was a big part of the show - anyone who tries to copy it will be accused of just that and if they don't, the show will have lost a key element of its appeal.

denphone 27-03-2015 09:19

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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 35767697)
Viewing figures and global earnings say you're wrong about that.

Make no mistake, the BBC will try very hard indeed to keep it going with new presenters.

Yes they do make a lot from sales of the show world wide but actual viewing figures in this country were in a six year decline until 2014 as its peak audience was in 2008.

l have no doubt they will keep it going but its going to be very hard for them to get someone with a certain aura and gravitas in my opinion.

Osem 27-03-2015 09:27

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The thing is Den as there are more channels with more choice, viewing figures are likely to suffer across the board. Also people have the ability to watch shows on catchup etc. so live viewing figures, if that's what you're referring to, might not tell the whole story.

alanbjames 27-03-2015 09:30

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Have Boris Johnson and Prince Philip as hosts.

Chris 27-03-2015 09:38

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Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35767702)
Yes they do make a lot from sales of the show world wide but actual viewing figures in this country were in a six year decline until 2014 as its peak audience was in 2008.

l have no doubt they will keep it going but its going to be very hard for them to get someone with a certain aura and gravitas in my opinion.

As Osem says, you're ignoring issues like audience share and catchup.

Absolute figures have been dropping for all terrestrial channels for decades. Doctor Who was cancelled at the end of the 1980s for "low" viewing figures which many episodes of the new series have achieved, and are now considered average-to-good.

Even in the last 6-7 years there has been a marked decline, but the BBC has access to iPlayer stats that BARB does not.

Top Gear is immensely popular. It is shown in goodness knows how many countries worldwide and the format has been franchised and remade in others. It really is not past its sell by date and the BBC is going to try extremely hard to re-cast, re-invent and re-start it as soon as possible.

Osem 27-03-2015 09:49

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris (Post 35767710)
As Osem says, you're ignoring issues like audience share and catchup.

Absolute figures have been dropping for all terrestrial channels for decades. Doctor Who was cancelled at the end of the 1980s for "low" viewing figures which many episodes of the new series have achieved, and are now considered average-to-good.

Even in the last 6-7 years there has been a marked decline, but the BBC has access to iPlayer stats that BARB does not.

Top Gear is immensely popular. It is shown in goodness knows how many countries worldwide and the format has been franchised and remade in others. It really is not past its sell by date and the BBC is going to try extremely hard to re-cast, re-invent and re-start it as soon as possible.

I'd love to be in on the internal discussions going on about this.

Some say the new presenter won't have testicles but will have a hairy face. Jo Brand comes to mind and 'on that bombshell...' :D

GrimUpNorth 27-03-2015 10:00

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Osem (Post 35767699)
Yes, it'll be interesting to see the direction they choose - male or female for example? There'll be plenty of pressure from within (and without) the Beeb to mollify all the testosterone with a dose of oestrogen.

That set me thinking - with The Sun dropping page three there'll be plenty of now underemployed female 'talent' out there so the BBC could do a quick revamp and relaunch the show as Topless Gear :shocked:.

Cheers

Grimmy

denphone 27-03-2015 10:01

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris (Post 35767710)
As Osem says, you're ignoring issues like audience share and catchup.
Absolute figures have been dropping for all terrestrial channels for decades. Doctor Who was cancelled at the end of the 1980s for "low" viewing figures which many episodes of the new series have achieved, and are now considered average-to-good.

Even in the last 6-7 years there has been a marked decline, but the BBC has access to iPlayer stats that BARB does not.

Top Gear is immensely popular. It is shown in goodness knows how many countries worldwide and the format has been franchised and remade in others. It really is not past its sell by date and the BBC is going to try extremely hard to re-cast, re-invent and re-start it as soon as possible.

Yes l did forget about that so perhaps l have over estimated its demise a bit.:)

Damien 27-03-2015 10:01

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If they re-cast and reinvent Top Gear then it's worth remembering that it won't be the new presenter thrown into the current format trying to replace Clarkson. It will be a new show and they'll decide on the presenter on how they fit that new format rather than Clarkson 2.

It will be interesting to see what happens. I think this iteration of Top Gear is finished but that isn't to say the new version of it won't also be good in a different way.

Osem 27-03-2015 10:04

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Originally Posted by GrimUpNorth (Post 35767723)
That set me thinking - with The Sun dropping page three there'll be plenty of now underemployed female 'talent' out there so the BBC could do a quick revamp and relaunch the show as Topless Gear :shocked:.

Cheers

Grimmy

:D Well I remember Topless Darts on Live TV...

heero_yuy 27-03-2015 10:34

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Originally Posted by Osem (Post 35767727)
:D Well I remember Topless Darts on Live TV...

And lunchbox volleyball.:p:

They had a young blond Yorkshire lass who presented the banger racing. She'd do.

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Yay! I found out who she is:

Louise Brady

Seems to have the right credentials. :D

MovedGoalPosts 27-03-2015 11:31

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This gives the BBC the opportunity to revamp and re-invent the show. After all the basics haven't really evolved since 2002. Many parts of the show still worked, but some of it may have become a bit stale at least to UK audiences who have been watching since 2002, even if it remains fresh to the more recently franchised countries.

The presenters are just a part of the package. I suspect they were struggling sometimes to come up with new ideas of how to put three idiots in beaten up cars and somehow make those stunts seem fresh when inevitably the challenges became repetitive.

Yes they were amusing but even so the presenters as a team were starting to show their age - Clarkson has previously complained about all sorts of back troubles - and one wonder's how long they could keep up the physical punishment of bounding around in rutted unmade tracks.

What parts of the show really work, but should others get dropped? For example inevitably I'd record and fast forward the star in a reasonably priced car as I wasn't really interested in another chat show promotion thing, even if it had a slant to it.

Is even the studio and track location at Dunsfold still right?

Stuart 27-03-2015 13:40

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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 35767710)
Absolute figures have been dropping for all terrestrial channels for decades. Doctor Who was cancelled at the end of the 1980s for "low" viewing figures which many episodes of the new series have achieved, and are now considered average-to-good.

The problem for the terrestrial channels is that way back in the 80s and early nineties, we had 4 channels to watch. Sky added (IIRC) another 15, and Cable added some of those 15 channels, and others. However, due to the cost of installation, neither Sky nor cable were serious competitors at the time. As such, the big shows were getting 10 - 12 million viewers, and (in the case of Eastenders) went up to about 30.

Now, the population hasn't increased that much, but the average viewer has access to over 300 channels. Even Freeview owners have access to 50. Most viewers also have access (show they be willing to pay) to online video services such as Netflix, Lovefilm (whatever they call it now), blinkbox and Sky Now, as well as the various catchup services and sources of illegal streams/downloads.

Regarding Dr Who, I saw Micheal Grade being interviewed and the interview asked about Dr Who. MG did admit that the viewing figures for it were actually good at the time (bearing in mind it was up against Coronation Street a lot of the time), and the real reason he axed it was simply that he didn't like it.

Osem 27-03-2015 13:49

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Originally Posted by Stuart (Post 35767779)
The problem for the terrestrial channels is that way back in the 80s and early nineties, we had 4 channels to watch. Sky added (IIRC) another 15, and Cable added some of those 15 channels, and others. However, due to the cost of installation, neither Sky nor cable were serious competitors at the time. As such, the big shows were getting 10 - 12 million viewers, and (in the case of Eastenders) went up to about 30.

Now, the population hasn't increased that much, but the average viewer has access to over 300 channels. Even Freeview owners have access to 50. Most viewers also have access (show they be willing to pay) to online video services such as Netflix, Lovefilm (whatever they call it now), blinkbox and Sky Now, as well as the various catchup services and sources of illegal streams/downloads.

Regarding Dr Who, I saw Micheal Grade being interviewed and the interview asked about Dr Who. MG did admit that the viewing figures for it were actually good at the time (bearing in mind it was up against Coronation Street a lot of the time), and the real reason he axed it was simply that he didn't like it.

Well, if it's true, it's refreshing to know that he cared so much about the people who paid his wages. :rolleyes:

Sirius 27-03-2015 13:55

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Originally Posted by Osem (Post 35767727)
:D Well I remember Topless Darts on Live TV...

:drool:

Kursk 27-03-2015 15:04

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Originally Posted by heero_yuy (Post 35767731)
Yay! I found out who she is:

Louise Brady

Seems to have the right credentials. :D

Oooo every cloud has a silver lining. Despite what I've said before if the Clarkson incident is going to lead to his sacking and replacement by this dolly bird I have only one thing to say: "where is that Irish bloke, I'll punch him myself?!" :D

denphone 27-03-2015 15:09

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Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35767783)
:drool:

Now now we will have less of that old boy.:nono::naughty:

cimt 27-03-2015 15:12

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If they do re-invent the show then I wonder if they'll go more like the US version which is just a new challenge every week. The rest of the segments usually seem like filler anyway, especially when they review a car now that they only drive it round the track.

heero_yuy 27-03-2015 15:56

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Originally Posted by Kursk (Post 35767813)
Oooo every cloud has a silver lining. Despite what I've said before if the Clarkson incident is going to lead to his sacking and replacement by this dolly bird I have only one thing to say: "where is that Irish bloke, I'll punch him myself?!" :D

So we've got Louise as anchor, Clair Balding to do the bike slot. I wonder who the third Cabinero could be.:scratch::D

Sirius 27-03-2015 16:13

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35767814)
Now now we will have less of that old boy.:nono::naughty:

:LOL:

Stop It 27-03-2015 16:13

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I wonder if the BBC try what they did with Have I got News For You: Rotating presenters.

I can't believe that there would be a shortage of talent the BBC could access who would love to have a go, even on a one off basis.

tweetiepooh 27-03-2015 16:45

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Bike slot??! No, don't need those death traps on other than to show four wheels are better.

Neither should it become a "car" show rather that light entertainment around cars.

And there is a lot of skill in what the three of them did/do. Driving is just one part of it, driving while being entertaining and "informative" takes a lot of skill.

Could use The Stig to interview "the star".

MovedGoalPosts 27-03-2015 17:31

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Apparently Clarkson has a job offer from Russia:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/32070910

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Tsar in a reasonably priced car
:D

Chris 27-03-2015 18:23

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Originally Posted by Stuart (Post 35767779)
Regarding Dr Who, I saw Micheal Grade being interviewed and the interview asked about Dr Who. MG did admit that the viewing figures for it were actually good at the time (bearing in mind it was up against Coronation Street a lot of the time), and the real reason he axed it was simply that he didn't like it.

Michael Grade didn't axe Doctor Who. He put it on an 18-month hiatus in 1985. Although it was never formally cancelled, it was BBC1 controller Jonathan Powell who was most directly responsible, as he failed either to shift the show out of a slot where it was competing with Coronation Street, or indeed to commission any new seasons after the 26th. The writing on the wall was clear to the production team - Nathan-Turner and the rest were pretty sure Survival was going to be the last-ever episode.

By the time all this happened, Michael Grade, whose personal hatred for Doctor Who was well known, was in no position to have influenced the decision, as he was running Channel 4. Indeed, Powell was reputed to have hated his guts, so certainly wouldn't have been likely to take Grade's advice over anything.

Incidentally, while Who was more successful against Corrie than just about anything else the BBC had ever put up against it, it still fared very poorly by its own standards. Its final season more than once failed to attract more than 3 million. For a prime property in prime time, that wasn't good at all.

Kursk 27-03-2015 20:25

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Originally Posted by heero_yuy (Post 35767829)
So we've got Louise as anchor, Clair Balding to do the bike slot. I wonder who the third Cabinero could be.:scratch::D

Nigel Farage? Fag, pint, irreverent loose cannon...:p:

Damien 27-03-2015 20:36

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Originally Posted by Kursk (Post 35767871)
Nigel Farage? Fag, pint, irreverent loose cannon...:p:


and might need a new job soon. Everyone is a winner. ;)

TheDaddy 27-03-2015 20:46

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Originally Posted by Rob (Post 35767749)
This gives the BBC the opportunity to revamp and re-invent the show. After all the basics haven't really evolved since 2002. Many parts of the show still worked, but some of it may have become a bit stale at least to UK audiences who have been watching since 2002, even if it remains fresh to the more recently franchised countries.

I think it had gone stale and despite their buffoonery I thought the three stars were starting to take themselves a bit to seriously and believe the hype around them as this latest sorry saga highlights, won't be sorry to see it go, stopped watching it years ago and getting rid of those three probably wont entice me back.

Kursk 27-03-2015 22:39

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35767873)
and might need a new job soon. Everyone is a winner. ;)

Breaking news: Dermot O'Leary leaves X Factor and may be in line for Top Gear job.

What a nail biting saga this is becoming...

deadite66 27-03-2015 22:58

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today the Guardian was suggesting Guy Martin would be a good host.

ianch99 27-03-2015 23:03

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Originally Posted by Kursk (Post 35767895)
Breaking news: Dermot O'Leary leaves X Factor and may be in line for Top Gear job.

What a nail biting saga this is becoming...

Sooner watch paint dry than watch him ..

Horizon 27-03-2015 23:08

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Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 35767875)
I think it had gone stale and despite their buffoonery I thought the three stars were starting to take themselves a bit to seriously and believe the hype around them as this latest sorry saga highlights, won't be sorry to see it go, stopped watching it years ago and getting rid of those three probably wont entice me back.

I agree.

And I know I'll be in a minority of one here, but I would just like a basic "review the car" show without all the "entertainment".

It doesn't interest me whether a car can do 180mph, but it does interest me to know how many suitcases or bags of shopping I can get in the boot.

papa smurf 27-03-2015 23:11

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Originally Posted by deadite66 (Post 35767902)
today the Guardian was suggesting Guy Martin would be a good host.

he will need to get a wash then ;)

Cobbydaler 27-03-2015 23:22

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Originally Posted by heero_yuy (Post 35767829)
So we've got Louise as anchor, Clair Balding to do the bike slot. I wonder who the third Cabinero could be.:scratch::D

Non discriminatory joke alert...

Shouldn't that be dyke slot?

Perhaps him as the 3rd Cabinero?


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