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What if you grew up and stopped trying to wind people up

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I'm winding myself up. it's hard work trying to get a simple Yes or No out of you.
you just skirt around the simple Yes or No.

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What does that have to do with anything ,he is already 'idolised' by kids from his past career and you yourself have already posted that you don't object to him resuming his career when his licence finishes and presumably being 'idolised' once again based on your rather bizarre view that he is only a convicted rapist whilst on licence .He is always going to be a convicted rapist unless the conviction is overturned

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Then try asking sensible questions

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that's what happens to you when you watch a lot of politics on tv you catch politicianitis ;)

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The important line in both links is very rare, you might as well say its possible for him to become the next man on the moon (subject to probation approval first of course)

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I have not ever said I would be ok with him returning to football when his licence finisishes. I said he should be able to return if his conviction is overturned.

Do you really thinks he is still idolised by kids from his past career, when they now know he is a rapist?

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I'll leave it. I'll just assume yes.

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I can't even say the word :)

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Nevertheless it is possible and people do, do it .Immaterial anyway because it doesn't look like he is going abroad ,at least not yet

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apologies mis read the post.

in my view when he has served his time he can pursue any career he wants and as it happens the law agrees with me ,at this time there are no restrictions on his parole .

do you honestly think that young kids care or even watch the news ,there will be exceptions obviously but the majority i suspect couldn't care less unless adults get involved and explain to them

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Every one has an opinion that's fine. In my mind, if I was convicted of rape i am pretty sure my employer would not welcome me back. When I applied for other jobs and was asked if I had any convictions and said, yes I served five years for rape, i am pretty sure I wouldn't get that job.

Why should it be different for him?

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There are already many limitations on Evans' work prospects as prescribed in law ,he will be on the sex offenders register for life and as such will be subject to "Regulated Activity" which basically means he can't work at hospitals ,schools or anywhere there will be vulnerable people .He's sentenced to more than 4 yrs in prison so his conviction will never be spent so he must always by law declare his conviction ,it will be upto any employer if they hire him or not .What you seem to be in favour of is imposing extra limitations on him or any criminal for that matter on top of the legally prescribed restrictions already in place after they are released and that is a very slippery slope in my opinion.
I myself employ an ex drug dealer he was sentanced to 9 yrs served 4.5 and i have never regretted it ,without me he would most likely have re-offended or simply be sitting on the dole for the rest of his life either way costing the tax payer fortunes instead of being a net contributor

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its not possible for him to go abroad, the ministry of justice confirmed that the other day and said that the conditions imposed on sex offenders in this country effectively rules out working abroad

http://m.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/30662865

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Great post! Mind you, that was before I read you'd employed a former drug dealer so I'm cancelling my order and going to make sure you never work again... ;)

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Martyh, Well done matey. You deserve great credit for what you have done. Yes, people do need that chance.

Yes, Ched Evans was convicted of a serious crime. But when they come out its people such as you, that give people that chance. Good on you mate.

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Just pretend Ched Evans is David Cameron, Arthur.
it'll all make sense.

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I hope Oldham are made to rue this decision. Fools.

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I agree its great what Martyh has done but a number of offenders do re offend Arthur

Between July 2010 and June 2011, around 630,000 offenders were cautioned, convicted (excluding immediate custodial sentences) or released from custody. Around 170,000 of these offenders committed a proven re-offence within a year. This gives a one year proven re-offending rate of 26.9 per cent, which represents a rise of 0.5 percentage points compared to the previous 12 months and a fall of 1.0 percentage points since 2000.

https://www.gov.uk/government/statis...e-offending--2

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Whilst that is true the reason why so many offenders re offend is partly because it is very hard for offenders to get that chance in the first place so many feel they have no other choice but to go back to crime .In reality ex offenders that really want to work and go straight tend to be extremely loyal and hard working because they Know that if they blow one chance they may never get another.
In evans' case i don't think he has a shortage of offers from clubs but he has to battle public opinion and the media who feel they have the right to control the rest of his life ,i don't think he will reoffend but problems ex offenders have in getting good jobs or any job means he should be allowed to take the offer and if that is a football club then so be it

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Oldham drop bid to sign Ched Evans.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/30727729

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Excellent. Shame Katie Hopkins is in the Big Brother house, she would be in meltdown today on Twitter.

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Yes excellent that the threat of violence and rape against the families of staff have forced the club to back down

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Ched Evans: Convicted rapist and footballer issues apology.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/30727380

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Is that good or bad?

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I posted that before I had heard the news of directors and staff being threatened. That is taking it too far, especially telling someone they would rape their daughter if the deal went ahead.

Until threats of violence and/or rape were made, this was being protested in a mature way. I hope they can ID the troll and prosecute them.

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http://news.sky.com/story/1404284/ch...-after-threats

There are a load of **** bags out there, making threats towards the board, and family members.

I always thought that the football world, wanted to get rid of bullies, and this is what the club have done. Bowed to online bullies

When you think that thousands of people have vented there anger at the club. They done even get that at each game. Just goes to show that, there are people out there. Who cannot mind there own business.
Yes, Chad has now apologised for what happened - But what will all those **** bags do IF Chad wins his appeal.

I appreciate that the words of this comment might be hard. I am saying, exactly what Harry Redknappe has said. There are other players out there that have committed major crimes, and are back playing there football.

Does this mean that any job Chad goes for, there will be a vigilante group out there, to try and stop him working and earning a living.

The Guy has done his bird. Now he has to rehabilate

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Bad, in the same way that the mob treatment of the young female involved in the case is bad.

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Its disgusting that they have been threatened with those outrageous things.

You mention football wants to get rid of bullies. I would argue, rape is bullying of some sort. so right outcome Arthur.

You mention people minding their own business, how would you feel if it was your daughter who was abused by this man?

Notice that he has now apologised for the impact on the victim which is a start.

If Chad wins his appeal all well and good and he should be able to continue his career but at this moment The **** as you call them can only go off the facts and the fact is, he is a convicted rapist.

btw Arthur its Ched not Chad

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Yes, excellent apology...

So, he hasn't apologised for what he did, he apologised for any effects that night had on people......

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Future career: Politician.

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To be fair he can't apologise for what he did whilst the appeal is on going. That said if he had any real remorse this "apology" would've been issued Weeks ago and not when this latest club has rejected him

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Those that threatened to Rape the daughter should face jail time.

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How ironic that people protesting about a rape would issue such a threat. Death threats too. There really are some extremely sad people out there but I'd imagine 99.9% are pathetic inadequates with too much time on their hands...

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Indeed, so many of these posts come from keyboard morons. If you're going to "get" your enemy at least do the research first rather than issuing silly threats. I hope the police use as much zeal in tracking down these people as they have with the press journalists accused of phone hacking.

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Of course he hasn't, he can't apologising for raping her as he's maintaining his innocence and is appealing.

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And of course the media tracking down and reporting such things only gives those responsible the attention they crave but certainly don't deserve, thereby helping to encourage it. Of course the media has an interest in helping to 'generate' news to fill the airtime, pages etc...

Agree about tracking them down, it'll be interesting to unmask some of these people and expose any agenda they may have because right now, the bandwagon they're riding on seems to have become almost quasi-judicial.

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it appears that Ched Evan's friend is in trouble....the Guardian is very very cheeky... and Hugh was correct ;)

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Wouldn't mind betting that he will be signed on deadline day by a club who manages to keep it a secret that they are going to sign him. As long as it isn't Stevenage then fair enough.

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No club with an ounce of common sense is going to go anywhere near him unless they have an owner with very deep pockets (so they don't need to keep sponsors happy).

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If (a big if) his parole officer allows him (not impossible), Scandinavia might be an option.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/foo...andefjord.html

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He is out of contract so can sign whenever he wants. The window only applies to changing registrations from one club to another.

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True, but IF I was a football club looking to sign him I would wait until transfer deadline day so the move could slip through without being noticed.