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Why a fibre pair? Is VM buying cheap low quality fibre that can't deliver the same as anyone else's???

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I don't doubt that, I was looking at it purely from a technical perspective. RFoG essentially has the same bottle neck as HFC, the CMTS port. As things progress that will become less of an issue, but FTTP should be some to shout about, with vastly improved upload

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Que?

One fibre to transmit the other to receive?

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2016/03/6.png

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They can relatively easily remove the bottleneck and put other things over the fibre without affecting RFoG which is nice.

Can happily use the same fibre to deliver DOCSIS to regular users while Team Torrent can, for a price, be offloaded onto a PON solution.

Re: How big are VM's infills?
 

No I was referring to FTTP

I'm assuming the second paragraph explains how FTTP would work if Virgin were to do that?

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That's how the solution Pierre mentioned would work, yes.

RFoG is also FTTP, mind you.

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I'm no longer a network engineer Igni, but I still want to keep my knowledge up together so I'll keep an eye on yours posts in future and see what's going on, as well as keeping in contact with my old team to hear the latest!

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Your old team are likely the best source of information.

Much as moving back to ISP-world and broadband interests me I'm probably a little too expensive for VM given my skillset so not going to be back in that frame any time soon :)

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Sweet.

http://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.php...gin-media.html

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From what I can gather the product is selling pretty well here.

The wait for an install is nearly a month.

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Blimey, 3 months ago the digging was done in some streets, still no homes live due to a couple of issues.

Problem with getting power to a cabinet and problem getting a fibre cross-connect between a couple of telco MSANs.

Neither an issue with FTTP. Perhaps a pity it was planned so long ago! :)

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Just as a thought, didn't really read this earlier, could fire quite a few Gb down a single fibre via PON.

The latest and greatest would allow symmetrical 10Gb to each subscriber and co-exist with RFoG, GPON, XGPON. The ONT and OLT are probably scary expensive for right now, though.

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They could still well be an issue with FTTP Igni, power is required for VHub and fibre backhaul could still be an issue. Power is quite often an issue with new cabinets due to delays in applications with power suppliers. The bane of my life at the moment! ;)

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I can imagine.

In our case the estate is served by a private electricity company. Applying to the wider area's company ended up with a bill for a trench right to the substation.

The private company seem to be a bit pants. GTC.

In the case of fibre it's been a weird one. Getting one path to MSAN fine, however the redundant path has been a nightmare. Getting fibre pack to the MSAN this one connects to has taken a while, and actually cross-connecting them means a short trip through an unadopted road, so full-width reinstatement and being completely at the mercy of the developer.

Between GTC and Taylor Wimpey it's been a pain in the backside.

Think the only reason you guys actually pressed on with it is that take up of FTTC here is very high, take up of cable on the wider Middleton build has been good, and the nodal areas served by the problem MSANs are considerably more affluent than the rest of Middleton so more chance of higher value, higher margin bundles being sold.

Full kudos due, though, in Lightning while the average build cost you're working towards is about 670GBP / premises passed you guys don't mind spending way more per premises on some if you can spend less on others. We owe wider Middleton gratitude for being largely nice terraces and semis.

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We are Taylor Wimpey also, 4 year old estate. Like you it's a private electricity company. The surrounding borough is Scottish Power. However even though it's a private electricity company that you have to contact if a cable is damaged (which I have in the past), the new substation on the estate still has Scottish Power on the front of it! Very odd situation.

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Scottish Power still provide the backhaul connection and support the switchgear installation, you will find that the installation was completed by a private contractor (GTC are getting big in this area) and they manage the "last mile" connection, the LV connectivity to the home. The HV lines will still be managed by Scottish Power (or whoever the local incumbent power supplier is).

I feel your pain Igni, deploying on New Build is not as simple as everyone thinks it is ;)

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I feel your pain regarding GTC, Steve. Ugh.