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I wouldn't bet on it. Will the houses have gone?

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There's a lot to be packed into the final 2 episodes.

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I am cautiously optimistic

She has become more and more independent over the last couple of seasons and we can see she is very much a lone bird even when she is amongst other people and that kind of ending would be realistic for her. I think her and Sandor have bonded as well as we saw her choose to save him in the battle for Winterfell so I would actually like to see them both ride off together as a sort of assassin duo. I am not sure how realistic that is going to be though because we have got the Cleggane fight to come and even if Sandor wins I worry if he will survive his wounds.

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You can say that again...

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Oh goody goody.:hyper::hyper::hyper:

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Yeah it was a nice surprise, i was under the impression that they had discounted everything apart from the one series which we know to be in development.

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I'm surprised no-one's mentioned the Starbuck's coffee cup.

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For those of you who watch the "ad-free" version it is at 16:30

https://www.foxnews.com/entertainmen...-was-a-mistake

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Interestingly, Arya did not specifically turn down the marriage proposal, she just said she's not a lady.

She could end up as a Queen instead - and assuming no "protection" was used the other week, could be carrying a Stark/Baratheon baby.

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Very good, i didnt think of that. I had a long conversation with a friend today about how different scenarios are going to play out and how things are going to end given what happened in this weeks episode but that one didnt come up.

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One of the scenarios l have thought about which is likely to play out is Queen Cersei being killed by someone and my belief is l think the person that kills her is not one she would of expected to kill her.

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So ... one she expected :confused:

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Sorry my mistake..

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I would like that. I think it would poetic justice if Jamie ended up having to kill her in order to prevent her from doing something catastrophic like blowing up the whole of Kings Landing with the wildfire planted beneath the city.

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I'd post a prediction but having accidentally seen potential spoilers for the last two episodes it's basically how I'd thought events might go and make sense in comparison to what I'd originally thought. :erm:

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I have got some ideas on what I think is going to happen and what I would like to see happen but the thing which I love about Game of Thrones is that it always surprises you.

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I flipping loved this weeks episodes, everything I wanted to happen did happen for once.

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Leaks were semi accurate but to be fair you could've predicted it with ease. It's pretty much a given how it ends now. Only real question left is who sits on the throne. Given I haven't had that spoiled for me I'm gonna go with a Stark on the throne.

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Dany executes Jon Snow for telling Sansa who he really was, executes Sansa for telling Tyrion, executes Tyrion for telling Varys and letting Jamie go.

Arya kills Dany in revenge and takes her seat on the Iron Throne.

Simples.

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That is a good theory pip but whether its the right one well we shall know next Sunday.;)

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And that is all it is, a theory. Sort of flows right though.:)

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Not sure I agree on all those executions, but I'm betting Arya kills Dany.

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Me neither as there was no need at all for the mass slaughter of many innocent people.

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Perhaps or maybe its someone else.

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What happened to the Winterfell crypts scene?.

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Can't argue that Pip's theory would be a roller-coaster and heart attack inducing.

Varys sent letters off. I think this will have more impact on the plot than just leaving it at that. That gives Jon Snow his army. Dany will try to execute Jon beforehand though but either Drogon refuses or Jon merely walks through the flames. Jon kills Greyworm, Arya kills Dany. Jon is King. Sansa is Queen in the North. For a strark to sit on the throne though I feel Jon would have to be killed.

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there are two sides to it. I am glad it happened, I was hoping it was going to happen and I would have done the same thing. She needed to do it for closure for everything she has been through, Missandei being the icing on the cake, and if you remember back in season 6 when she first met Tyrion she said something like "I am not here to remake the wheel, I am here to break the wheel". All the noble houses have gone now and there is only Stark and Targaryen left. It is fitting that Kingslanding has been demolished because that was the symbol of everything that was wrong before and now the Seven Kingdoms can either been ruled by House Targaryen from Dragon Stone or House Stark from Winterfell.

me too, she has always said she will fight for the north and for her family. I am guessing that Jon and Danni have a bit of a falling out in the next episode, she accuses Jon of betraying her and breaking his vow which is treason and Arya kills Danni to save Jon. I am wondering though whether Jon dies in a fight with Greyworm or Gendry and Sansa ends up being Queen. She has said right from day one that she wants to be queen so it would be fitting as they are wrapping up all the character's story arcs nicely.

Two things to think about though:

1) Presumably Tyrion is a gonner. I was expecting him to be executed in this episode after what happened with Missandei but he has definitely got to go when she finds out about Jamie.
2) In terms of fitting story arcs and ends for the characters, if Arya does end up killing Danni for whatever reason, are we going to see her do it as a faceless man and assume another persona? I think that would be really nice seeing her go back to her routes and doing the right thing to balance the scale of justice for all the people who died in Kings Landing. The many face god demands a sacrifice!

from the season 8 teaser?

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Yes.

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https://twitter.com/SuanneBraun/stat...93484484493312:D:D:D

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that was literally just a teaser to get you excited, I think they were very keen not to use any real footage from the episodes so as to not give anything away too early. I have noticed that with some films over the last year or so, especially with the Marvel ones. I think it is good, it gives you something to watch and teases you without giving anything away.

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l was thinking about that famous quote by Dany of "I am not here to remake the wheel, I am here to break the wheel".

Will there be a Iron Throne at the end of it all?

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good point, I didn't think about that

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Petition to get HBO to remake season 8 just short of 300.000 votes.

You views?

https://www.change.org/p/hbo-remake-...se_react=false

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how strange, I didn't realise there was so much negative sentiment around it. I suppose in the grand scheme of things though 300,000 as a percentage of the global viewership is inconsequential.

I have really enjoyed this season. Everyone knows B5 is my favourite series of all time and that is because I love character driven series. As this season is only 6 eps I was worried it was going to be all about huge battles and jumping from one location to the other to deal with different character's beefs but I thought they have handled it really well. They managed to bring everyone together, resolve their differences or say what they need to and I think they have serviced the characters really well.
Pace wise I wasn't sure how they were going to do the last two eps because there were two separate issues that needed resolving; the Lannister/Cersei problem and the Danni/Stark problem. I am glad they dealt with Kingslanding and Cersei this week because that leaves the last episode all about the Starks which is how it started and I pray that one of them survives and the Westeros is ruled by a Stark from the North in Winterfell.

If I had to be really really niggly about it, given the gravity and weight of the Whitewalkers story throughout the series and the 1000 year history of them within the series, I would have preferred a protracted war with them probably over three episodes where we see them decimate the north and work their way south but if that was going to happen everything would have to have changed and the Lannister army and Golden Company would probably have had to have joined forces with the Starks etc to cover the ground and put a halt to it all and then the whole Cersei betrayal story arc would have to have changed.

It arguably could have been better and some might say that they would happily have waited another year if it meant we could get 10 one and a half hour episodes or something but I am honestly really enjoying it and don't have a problem with it (as long as Arya survives next week ;))

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Have they got nothing better to do...

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To many endings and they've not been given enough time to do them properly.

The production, acting etc is all top notch, no complaints.

But because of the truncated season many plotlines and characters have not been given the endings they deserve or we (well I ) wanted.

It just comes across as all a bit rushed.

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Part of the problem is that the pacing was too slow when they were still adapting the books which meant as soon as they left the books they suddenly had to bring it all together within a few short seasons. The books had left them with an ever-increasing character and storyline count, people located all over the map and too many mysteries which they had to resolve themselves.

It's clear George RR Martin isn't have an easy time bringing altogether either otherwise they would have had the final two books to adapt already.

Television is a different medium to television and they had too few concessions to this in the earlier seasons which they're paying for now. They needed to be more ruthless is limiting the scope of the books early on then they might have had an easier time closing down all the open elements of the plot.

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I beg to differ :D

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Up to over 750.000 sigs now.

Whatever the result I think everyone knows there is no chance HBO will do a rewrite.

I think the petition is premature as we still don't know what happens in the final episode where everything may yet be revealed

If I felt let down after the finale then I might complain or back something like this petition.

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Not in a month of Sunday's.

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I'm enjoying it. Never felt compelled to email HBO to reshoot Series 8. It is what it is.

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Exactly.

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SPOILERS just in case....











I was really looking forward to binge watching the entire series after it ends, but after the penultimate episode, I'm not bothered any more. Hopefully the last episode will make it worthwhile investing in all of these characters for so long but I doubt it.

Dany being pretty much a herione all the way through, just to turn into a murderer.
Jaime basically ending up where he started, despite redeeming himself somewhat.
Brienne losing her virginity and becoming a snivelling girly wreck
Bran....a complete waste of screentime.
Arya spending episode 5 wandering around getting filthy and buggering off on a horse
Cersei not dying slowly and horribly at the hands of someone who deserved to end her.

Only my opinion.

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HBO allegedly would've been fine allowing the series to continue over a few more seasons. D&D convinced them they could tie everything up in a single season.

Dany was always going to end up being the mad Queen. Trying to write that into 5 episodes to conclude it in 6 however may have been a mistake.

The other points are valid though. Some of the writing and ideas have been fairly poor. Still enjoying it nonetheless. I honestly think they should have had two six episode seasons though. One dedicated to the night king and the beginning of the mad Queen followed by a final season of her concluding the mad Queen angle whilst building her up as a powerful antagonist. Disregarding Euron aimbotting a dragon for mere plot shock, which has only nerfed her somewhat.

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something weird is going on, the video plays in the thumbnail on this forum but if you click on the youtube link it comes up with a playback error.

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Not long now General before the fate of Westeros is known.:)

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Strange, what does this link do?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0D-yeBUTRs

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I love stuff like this, there's supposed to be more after the finale.

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The one in question plays either way for me.

Not sure whether to watch as it airs with potential interruption and then join in the Internet riot afterwords or to just watch on demand after I get up. :D

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Potential interruption? No Matter. I'm looking for a full rendering of that first vid if it exists.

If I find one I'll link it.

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On call between 2200-0800. Usually dies off straight after midnight but there can be a 5 minute query here and there.

Either way. Can't wait to see this through. It's been a quality show regardless of opinion surrounding this last season and there's never going to be an ending here that pleases everyone. Can't wait for the prequel and whatever else comes of this and hopefully the LOTR Prime video series can match GoT in quality and storytelling.

As for the link again. Great song. Gave me vibes of Florence Welch at first so to discover it was Florence Welch and being a fan of course. With that I got this. https://youtu.be/eTa1jHk1Lxc

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I think the episode 5 explained I posted earlier showed where the writers were coming from better than elsewhere.

Hope you are not too busy tonight.:)

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Without giving any spoilers away I am happy with how it ended. It was 95% how I expected with a slight twist as to who ends up on the iron throne.

If you haven't heard already there is another coffee cup joke going around apart from this time it is a bottle of water. I didn't notice it and you have really got to look for it. It is at 44:04.

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This one General?

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Yup


I don't know how people notice this stuff, it was on screen for literally a split second.

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I had to run through it frame by frame until I spotted it.

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Enjoyed it. The only negatives were Bran and Jon. Bran being an annoyance and Jon losing everything and going full circle was a massive blow. King beyond the wall though take some of that sting off.

That being said. Games of Thrones has ended. That collection of stories. They used the episode to set up spin offs but absolutely left it open for a sequel to the central story. The dragon taking off with Dany in a world we know allows people to be brought back from the dead. Greyworm being alive. Jon snow North of the wall. Arya discovering bigger threats in unmapped lands and so forth.

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The next ting on thecards is a prequel. Its already being cast.

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Yeah I don't see them doing a sequel with the same characters tbh

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A very pleasing last episode generally.:tu:

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An Arya spinoff in the west would have been nice, but seems unlikely, as noted above the current spinoff plan is a prequal.

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l would not rule it out sometime in the future though.

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yeah, there spinoffs in the works so who knows. I would love to see an Arya one and Maisie Williams is still young enough as an actor to physically learn loads of new martial arts and combat techniques if required for the role.

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You only have to look at some of the other big franchises like LOTR , Harry Potter , Star Wars etc , etc where they ruled out sequels only for them to change their minds when they saw how much extra revenue they could make.

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Good, but it ultimately left me unsatisfied.

Looking forward to the adventures of Arya spin off...........which was pretty much Telegraphed.

I think they could rescue the fans disappointment with this series, with a series of TV movies.

1. Aryas adventure ( I don’t think a series has legs)
2. Jon North of the wall
3. Bran being king and 3eyed Raven
4. Tyrion.....being Tyrion.

The outcome of the Iron Throne May have been concluded but there are further threads that can be explored. I’d prefer Sidequels than prequels.

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Yeah Arya is the most left open.

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Season 7 and 8 should have been the full 10 episodes as they tried to squeeze too much in the last 6 episodes which just didn't work. It was rushed and the ending was just too neat and tidy and not in a good way because they just ran out of time. I didn't feel anything when it ended just a bit deflated in the way they've ruined it.

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I've generally enjoyed the season, but it hasn't been as good as previous seasons.

The main problem is they've provided very little context for things happening, which has meant it feels like a lot has happened solely because the writers needed it to. The Night King's death for instance. They spent most of the series telling us how invincible he was, and how he was coming with his army of the dead to defeat the living, only for him to be killed by a small woman with a knife, then have his entire army collapse because of course they are all directly controlled by him (fairly certain this was never even implied before) Little bit of an anticlimax that.

Then there was Dany turning evil. I'm no expert on mental health, but I suspect people can actually turn evil that quickly. That said, the way it was done still felt a bit like they were panicking because they realised they needed a reason to kill Dany off so they could make Bran king, and they realised they were running out of time.

Then there are the special effects. Previously, GoT has looked and sounded beautiful. It was brilliantly shot, had excellent special effects and awsome music. The music has been awesome throughout this season as well, in some places improving what would otherwise be extremely boring scenes. The CGI has let things down a little. Previously when they showed Dany flying on her dragon, it's looked exactly like it should, like a young woman flying on the back of a firebreathing dragon. Nothing to signpost the CGI, or the fact there was any compositing going on (beyond the obvious fact that without special effects, the shot would be impossible due to Dragons not existing). This season, the Dragon flight scenes (particularly during the battle of winterfell) have looked like a young woman sitting in front of a green screen, being superimposed on to the scene, and on top of the CGI dragon. CGI, when done well, should look like it's part of the scene, not created 18 months later and superimposed.

Then there are the battles. Large scale battles, filmed by a good director, look impressive, but still have an emotional kick for the viewer because while they show huge crowds of people fighting, they predominantly focus on a few characters, and show clearly what is happening. Like the final battle against the original evil at the end of Buffy the Vampire slayer. Yes, they used CGI to generate thousands of soldiers, but they focused tightly on the good guys and the individual fights they were having. If the director spends most of the scene showing large views of the battle, I just think all they've done is muck around with MASSIVE a bit (MASSIVE is the software used in GoT, Buffy, and a lot of films and TV shows, to generate large crowds) and let it render. I don't care beyond that.

Game of Thrones has done this previously as well, with wide shots showing the shear level of destruction, but focusing tightly on a few characters. It doesn't seem to have done this so much for this season though.

Then there is bad lighting making things difficult to see, Sorry, GoT Director of Photography, telling people that if they can't see a video well, they are in the wrong lighting conditions is like Steve Jobs telling people who got bad signal on their iPhone "You are holding it wrong". You are making a TV show for people to watch. If you don't make it at least visible in normal lighting conditions, you have failed. I don't have stunningly high end equipment at home, but I have a fairly decent LG 4K TV, and the only way I could see anything was to turn all the lights off, and close the curtains. You can make it so it looks better in the dark (a lot of shows look better in the dark), but people do need to be able to see it.

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Get it off your chest.

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Dany 'turning evil'/'going mad' had been telegraphed for quite a while now. I think most people entered the season wondering when it would happen and this season gave enough clues to it. The season also piled on the grief, loss and insecurity onto her as well losing two of her long-term friends/allies and another dragon.

I think she went from 'might be mad' to 'genocidal rage' a bit too quickly though.

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I can understand people loving Dani and being upset by what happened but in terms of my realism factor ask yourself what you would have done in that situation. I have been having a GoT lunch with a friend every week this season so we can talk about the most recent ep and what we want to happen in the next ep. To put things in perspective, after ep 4 and Missandei dying, bearing in mind that I had no idea what was going to happen in ep 5 and often what we want to happen doesn't, I told my friend how I felt and that if I was Dani I have been screwed over enough by trying to do the right thing and I would execute Tyrion and burn Kingslanding to the ground. It isn't very often that things have gone the way I wanted them to in GoT but I was overjoyed when she lost it and levelled the place. It is in keeping with her primary goal of breaking the wheel anyway. Kingslanding was the symbol of everything that was wrong with the world and she has got rid of it. They surprised me a bit at the end by finding representatives of the noble houses to sit on a council because I was expecting one of the Starks to kill Dani and the Starks to rule Westeros from Winterfell but how it ended is good enough for me.

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Game of Thrones has picked up a record number or 32 Emmy nominations this year and I am absolutely thrilled. It has really bugged me in previous years when it has not been nominated or won categories such as best drama but you can understand why, it can't win every year (even though I think it should have). As with LOTR at the Oscars, they have waited till the last season and I think it is only proper that such a phenomenal series gets the recognition it deserves.

https://news.sky.com/story/game-of-t...tions-11764443

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Pity it was the worst season ....

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Maybe so but it still was far better then most of the stuff out there.

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exactly, it is miles ahead of everything else

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Good news, it looks like we are going to get another GoT prequel series showing the rise and fall of House Targaryn which will be excellent:

https://deadline.com/2019/09/house-t...bo-1202732221/

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l cannot wait...:hyper::hyper::hyper:

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Game Of Thrones Prequel Pilot Starring Naomi Watts Not Going Forward At HBO

https://deadline.com/2019/10/game-of...ts-1202771609/

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Really bizarre. I know it is peanuts to them but if they had already filmed it I would love to know how many $millions they have thrown down the drain.

On the upside though all is not lost, another prequel series has been given the green light.

https://tvseriesfinale.com/tv-show/h...sequel-series/

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I guess they decided they only wanted one prequel, and one set thousands of years ago was going to be too far disconnected from the original.

The House of the Dragon is only set 300 years in the past and will have more familiar family groups.

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I wonder if it will be based on "Fire & Blood" (just finished it), which is also described as

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Yep, it is.

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yeah makes sense. Given the massive fan base which they will want to maintain I think the more "normal" people will find it easier picking up a new series if they can relate to it. If you start fresh in a new time period in a different kingdom, different houses, different technologies and languages etc it may be too much for traditional viewers and only appeal to the true scifi/fantasy fan and they would see the viewing figures shrink.

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Its looks like it will be at least until 2022 till we see the next dollop of Game of Thrones.

https://www.gamespot.com/gallery/hou...l/2900-3356/7/

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Over it.

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Disappointing but not surprising given that they are starting from scratch again. I am surprised 2022 though, I would have thought summer 2021 would have been more realistic. I can only think they want to spend this year doing all the pre-production work for the entire season, film it next year and then release it mid-2022.

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GOT ended disappointingly, but I will give the new one a go when it comes out.

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Is it not set 300 years before so there will be a complete new set of characters to get use to.

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Pretty much, yes.

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There should have been a Hound spin off, he’s the only character we didn’t get enough of.

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Yeah its a pity we did not see more of him as he was one of the more interesting characters.

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Guys, I have only watched 2 episodes of GOT however I found it hard going. Is it easy to get into or is it a bit difficult to get into at first. What are your recollections of the first season of the show?

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No l found it quite easy to get into although l am a big fan of fantasy when it is done right.

This is the basis of what it is all about.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Game_of_Thrones

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It takes a couple of episodes to work out who is who, what is going on, the different locations and where they are geographically. You start off in three principle locations; Kingslanding, Winterfell and Pentos. In order to understand the significance of where people are and the lapse in time (in the first episode the queen complains that it has taken them 4 months to get from Kingslanding to Winterfell) you should pay careful attention to the map in the opening credits. The map grows in detail as new locations are mentioned throughout the episodes.

GoT is one of the best series ever made and is defo worth watching. I mean this in the nicest possible way so don't take it the wrong way. You seem to be an ardent fan of soaps and I have spoken to many many people I work with who watch things like EastEnders and Coronations Street religiously and stuff like GoT and Star Trek blows their mind. I hope for your sake that you enjoy it and can get into it and if you do I strongly suggest you embrace your new found quality tv and expand your horizons to other series which you may have overlooked in the past and if time is a factor then ditch the soaps.

I can't even begin to compare or contrast Coronation Street with GoT and try and explain how much better it is, and I don't want to tbh. When you get into GoT it is like jumping into another world. The production quality is the best there has ever been in the world (literally), the story and characters are amazing. The thing I will say by way of a comparison is that both series are an ensemble cast but you will quickly realise in GoT that every character is fully fledged and matters. It doesn't matter how much screen time they have or whether they are a goody or a bady, you love all of them because they enrich the story and series and matter.

My words and hollow and I appreciate they mean absolutely nothing. GoT is quite literally something you have got to experience and see to believe. The good thing for you is that it is a blessing in disguise. Not only have you got the luxury of the series having ended and being able to watch all eight seasons at your leisure, you are potentially at home as party of the lockdown and there is nothing stopping you from indulging and ploughing through them one season a day :) Watch the first season and come back and let us know what you think. I'll be amazed if you aren't hooked. If you like it maybe you can start a petition to have it placed in Coronation Street's regular evening slot ;)

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Also, Emilia Clarke.

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+1:D

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Boooooooooooobs!

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:rofl: :D