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Fury vs Klitschko is off again. Fury citing issues but the reality is he's out of shape and hadn't even started a training camp for this fight. Its over then, he'll be stripped of the titles shortly for failing to defend without a suitable reason and it can't be rescheduled because they're both facing a potential ban for being flagged in doping tests, that hearing occurs in November.

On the plus side its likely that Haye will be one of those in for the vacant belts. I get the impression Fury is done with the sport, Good victory against Wlad but its clear he thinks himself that he fluked it and why bother trying again, got his money and went home.

At Haye's vastly improved weight and physique its clear he's gearing up for Klitschko too. Second times a charm, if he fights on the outside this time and doesn't allow Klitschko grab hold every time Haye throws one then I think Haye will bury him. A lot of people rule Haye out but not even Klitschko would stand and trade, choosing to clinch every time Haye landed. Haye in this shape can neutralize the infamous lean of doom and leave Klitschko with just his one dimensional jab. The last person to stand Haye up and trade was the supposed Steel chinned Chisora. We all know how that ended.

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My impression appears to be correct.

Tyson Fury unoficially quits. Overpaid lazy cheating knob.

Expect the Governing bodies to strip him of the titles soon ahead of his potential doping ban later.

All this has done really is fuel the theory that Fury was always a doper and the testing bodies only really hunt major bouts because they're hopeless. Suggests Fury was doping throughout and can't get in shape now he's been flagged. Also note Klitschko was flagged in the same fight.

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Sadly the heavyweight division IMO now is utterly contemptible compared to the days of yore and the legends that made the heavyweight division in the olden days.

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Boxing has gone the same way as Hollywood - BS, hype and rematches.

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Yes l remember the good old days when we had world class boxing on terrestrial TV and ever since that disappeared then its been a downhill slide ever since for the sport IMO.

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The Rumble in the Jungle - Oh my God he's won the title back at 32!!! :)

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Tyson Fury tests positive for cocaine and could lose titles.

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/g...-a7339851.html

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Wait what? So what did Klitschko fail on then :erm:

What a sham. You can forget might lose the titles. He was already being stripped. The hearing for the violations are still in place for November I think.

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Bellew charges Haye post fight. Delusional man.

I hope Haye takes the fight, forget this Heavyweight drama. Bellew is the best of a rubbish division, he's talking crap like that to a man that knocked out everyone he beat at Cruiserweight and is knocking out Heavyweights for fun.

Bellew is hopelessly out of his depth here. The first time he faced someone with a decent punch, they buried him. The outcome is the same here. Get Bellew to Heavyweight and Haye will bury him. Haye has put too much work in to get into his current shape, weight gains etc. He won't be dropping down for anyone.

Insane from Bellew, another gobby waste of 'Talent' Adonis Stevenson nearly decapitated him with a straight left. Better sort that horrible defence and wonky chin :erm: Anyone with half a brain can telegraph his left hand too, someone needs to teach him the purpose of having two hands.

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The trouble with too many fighters nowadays in boxing is they open their mouths too much rather then acting like some of the old boxers acted and that was with class and humidity.

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Pah he beat Apollo Creeds son didn't he...

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AJ to fight Molina, then Klitschko.

Fair play. I don't think Wlad actually still has it to be fair, I don't think he has the power to put Joshua on the floor or the speed and that jab to outbox him. With that said, I still repeat this, David Haye got to Klitschko numerous times and Wlad's instant response was to tie him up, Haye troubled him in that lopsided fight but that's overlooked. Joshua could well put Wlad down. Watch that space.

The bad side, taking on Klitschko puts Joshua at the top, he can't then go cherry picking bums. Haye and Wilder are going to want their scrap with him and I still feel either of those could very much bury him. Klitschko isn't going to throw anything near the power of Haye or Wilder in fairness but in all it's great experience for Joshua. His monumental rise still bothers me though.

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UFC 205: Night of Champions

Bold denotes defending champion, in the case of McGregor, the FW title will not be on the line, the Lightweight title will be defended at that weight by Alvarez. If McGregor wins he will be the first ever two weight champion in history and be the unified, featherweight and lightweight champion of the world. cfw= current Featherweight champion. All three title fights will be 5x5 minutes for a total of 25 minutes. Every other fight is 3x5 minute rounds giving a 15 minute total.

Undercard is relevant, this is arguably the biggest UFC card in history.

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Conor McGregor knocks out Eddie Alvarez to become The undisputed Lightweight and Featherweight champion. Becoming the first ever dual weight champion.

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Haye vs Bellew 4th march at Heavyweight.

Bellew's gob will see him utterly destroyed here. Keeps talking about the power he doesn't actually possess against a guy yet to be rocked at heavyweight and a guy that literally knocked out every cruiserweight he beat.

When Bellew gets caught he looks like a deer in the headlights. If Haye hits him and he will.. Bellew will fall apart like he did against someone far weaker than Haye in Adonis.

Money as usual. British boxing at its finest.

Bellew throughs that predictable left, gets a right overhand in return, job done, goodnight.

Haye vs Enzo part 2 to be fair.

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AJ vs Molina
Chisora vs Whyte

He's starting to step up a bit now is AJ. Molina is no joke, he's no legend either but by far the best AJ has faced. My hope for this fight is AJ takes some heavy shots and gets past them because he's still not getting past Haye and Wilder without taking a battering on that chin first. Tad worried Molina could floor him and really humble him. Ideally, Joshua 10th round knockout, get some rounds under his belt, some experience, take some shots then put him away in style. An early finish whilst looking great, does nothing for Joshua.

Chisora vs Whyte, no comment, absolute bum fight.

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Chisora vs Whyte is up. Let the battle of the bums commence! :D

AJ hype train rolls on, that was awful though. Nothing learned, nothing gained. Molina was a mirror image of Audley Harrison, a truly awful 'boxing' match. The same Molina that faced off against Wilder? Nope, came, did an Audley, threw nothing, went down, goes home paid.

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What made me laugh this morning was the BBC sports reporter on BBC Breakfast who was comparing AJ with the greats of old.:rofl::rofl:

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That's Eddie Hearn literally selling people hype. It's always happened and it's actually damaging especially since the fighters themselves start believing their own BS.

Examples in question, Amir Khan early on often dubbed as Prince Nas v2 and look what happened, he got so overly confident in his talent he forgot a prime aspect of boxing that he can no longer harness which is a good defence. Something not even Virgil Hunter can gift him now. So whilst being the fastest and most accurate puncher in the division with phenomenal footwork, he just has absolutely nothing in his arsenal to avoid counter punches at times. I say at times because on his day he is literally unbeatable on points. Khan's biggest enemy is himself. Garcia and Canelo being the most recent, both sloppy counter shots that put him down. You know, shots that Mayweather, Brook, Manny, Garcia himself, Maidana, would never get caught with. One of Khan's best abilities has phased out too, he threw one of the best body shots at welter, famously dropping Maidana and then Collazo.. only to stop?

Ricky Hatton, was on the path most failed British boxers have, a hype train built with bum fighters, he had one major bout with Tszyu and was amazing but get past that hometown advantage and land yourself in the US as a Prizefighter. We quickly learned that the Welterweight division isn't confined to the walls of Manchester and he was horribly exposed by far better talent in Mayweather and Manny, being absolutely dismantled by both. Point being is despite his flaws, Amir Khan is a far better boxer than Ricky Hatton ever was. Despite Khan being on his back four times, he's still an American PPV seller and has outshone Hatton and Brook over and over with fights against Maidana, Alexander and so on.

Boxing casuals as I call them, like to get behind a big name fighter early on and quickly assume he's the greatest thing of all time. I remember when David Price was future world champion :erm:

Again though, you can not measure a guys ability and especially his power when he's literally punching bums. Still that doesn't mean it's not there. There's no test, so far every bum has literally stood directly in front of him and then backed away, basically resulting in a sparring session with an idle bag. My argument like so many others is that your David Haye's and Wilder's are so much quicker, will never be stood still and will hit like a truck. Again a half solid punch from Whyte had Joshua reeling. There's no way he still stands if Wilder and Haye crack him with those shots.

People are still giving Haye flak for returning. He's massive now, still holds the speed and still has a one punch finish in him. He's bad news for Joshua because I still don't see Joshua lasting 3 rounds with him and that's not a bad thing, that's just recognizing that Joshua is still a young talent. I've said it so many times, Derek Chisora will give you a fight so make it happen.

Ideally, Haye could get a vacant title and we'd have multiple world champions but as you can see, Haye is only interested in cashing in on petty rivalries. I'd also like to see Joshua ditch idiots like Hearn and move off to the US early and get a great trainer and promoter underneath him as early as possible, that's how you become a Klitschko and not a David Price.

The respect and acknowledgement between Joshua and Klitschko was great. Wlad should be worried though. Said this before, the small version of Haye cracked him three times and Wlad wobbled and grabbed hold every single time. Joshua won't be leant on the way Haye was so if Joshua does hold the power he's supposed to hold I reckon he could put him down and out.

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Khan vs Brook 2017

Interesting fight.

Brook can throw big shots, Khan has the skill and speed to outpoint him. Khan knocking him out as quoted certainly isn't happening though. Brook has nothing to lose though, is finally appearing out from under that Hearn shell.

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Ronda The Fraud Rousey gets obliterated in under a minute on UFC return.

Laughable. Career is done. No defence, wonky chin, a year off and nothing learned from the past fight with Holm. A one trick pony that was sold to the world as a legendary figure in fighting. Calling out grown men, a bad attitude in the ring and so forth. Horribly exposed for the fighter she actually is. Embarrassing.

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Let's hope Ronda Rousey's career is the last death of 2016 :)

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Heh,

I would sympathize with her because it was pretty horrible to watch but her attitude stinks and she started believing her own BS. The UFC created this mess by over promoting a fighter that was on top of an empty division and hadn't really had a half decent challenge. Unfortunately we found out last year that she has no boxing skills worth mentioning and despite a year off, tried to continue with said 'skills'

The sheer audacity to go as far as calling out grown men like Floyd Mayweather when you have boxing skills as poor as that.. embarrassing.


http://giant.gfycat.com/LiveSeveralIncatern.gif A year ago

https://gfycat.com/BlindBlindIndianskimmer 15 days ago.

That is appalling form for someone that was actually a world champion.

Points to make from the clips.

Her defence, you don't teach that in a year, it's shot.
Her straight right hands - they are beyond shocking for something that is the most basic of punch besides a jab. It's amateur level stuff but this is a Judo athlete that simply can not box.
Her head/chin never move, both clips show ridiculous openings for counter shots, something that Holm exposed a year ago. What Holm didn't bank on was that Rousey's defence really is that bad and the fight could've been done way sooner.

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I don't usually watch UFC and only watched it this morning because of the hype. All i can say is thank god the two fights before Ronda's were good, her fight was a complete waste of hers and everybody elses time, she didn't look like she belonged anywhere near the ring.

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I generally only post cards worth watching for anyone new to the sport (I watch them all anyway)

It's just to attract new fans to the sport by avoiding cards I think will end up being a dud.

The Cruz fight you're on about is the fight that made sure I never posted this card. It's usually a 5 round snoozefest with him but man that was a hell of a fight, absolutely outclassed and I think a rematch would only serve Cody better now he knows he has everything he needs to trouble Cruz.

Onto Ronda again. No, she doesn't belong anywhere near the ring. She helped build the division and that's the only credit I have for her because other than that she's arrogant and alongside Dana White, a fraud. Fact is, the division is finally coming into it's own with better fighters and top talent coming through. Ronda's half assed skills won't cut it anymore. Her and Paul 'CM Punk' Brooks go hand in hand. Except his skills were never there. Again, the GIF's I posted are evidence of some pure BS, no one with that kind of form should be allowed to compete at a top level. She's essentially a punching bag for anyone that can throw a decent combo together.

Tonight marks the return of the legendary BJ penn. It's a card and a fight probably not worth watching even though it'll roll round here at 3am and after the New Year.

The way UFC and Dana white sold Rousey off as some phenom of MMA was disgraceful though, $3 million is her quoted earnings for the fight. The face of MMA is Conor McGregor, the only man that delivers, the most exciting man in the sport and by far the new 'Anderson Silva' of the sport. He literally runs UFC at this point and what he says, goes.

UFC 208 has a half decent card with some guaranteed action.
UFC 209 has a guaranteed knockout finish main event. Overeem vs Hunt. Overeem has a glass chin but great power. Hunt has a pretty solid chin and incredible one punch finishing power, someone will get floored and it'll likely be Overeem.
UFC 210 has yet to be announced but it's booked for the MGM in Vegas so expect a stacked card and a McGregor main event. Possibly the HW title fight too

Note: Not actually sure that 209 main even will go ahead as it's still unclear whether Mark Hunt is pursuing legal action against UFC over Brock Lesnar's PED usage and the fact Lesnar was paid as a winning fighter despite being stripped of the win since.

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Brock Lesnar suspended for 1 year and fined $250,000 after testing positive on two occasions for clomephine (commonly used after steroid cycles) during the run up to Mark Hunt at UFC 200. Hunt is now considering legal action against Lesnar whom walked away with a Winning purse of upwards of $2 million despite the result now being overturned to a NC via DQ

WWE and their 'Fantastic' Wellness Policy have yet to comment.

Third drugs cheat Mark Hunt faced in as many fights. As for Brock, he's done a great job at convincing me that he's never not been a cheat now.

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Badou Jack vs James DeGale - Middleweight title fight

Fight due between 9-10pm ET (2-3am GMT)

Sky Sports 1 will be broadcasting the fight night from 1.30am. For any night owls, mediocre fight but the first major bout of the year.

Quick predictions, DeGale over 12 maybe? It's a mediocre fight to be honest, not expecting fireworks but there's always a chance in these fights, Jack has a suspect chin, DeGale has looked awful on occasions too. Could be anyones.

Back to the Mark Hunt case, Hunt booked himself with Overeem at UFC 209 and has now confirmed he has filed a lawsuit against UFC and Brock Lesnar over compensation (Lesnar was given a winners purse) because Brock Lesnar has since been disqualified, banned from the sport for a year and fined $250,000 for testing positive for clomids (Used in athletes after a steroid cycle)

This leaves the UFC in a no win scenario, Lesnar is unlikely to show up to any case so faces an instant loss taking the UFC along with him in regards to the $2 million purse and will very likely settle with Hunt out of court. All because they ignored him for months then went and booked him in a major PPV later. He literally now has UFC by the testicles. This also once again shines WWE firmly in the spotlight, something they don't want in regards to their wellness policy and how it has no effect on performers on part time contracts.

Mark Hunt has also managed to secure all of his future fight contracts with a no doping clause, meaning any opponent that signs to face him automatically forfeits the entire purse to him if found to be doping. I'm 99% sure UFC accepted this as a cushion to stop Hunt vs Lesnar/UFC court action happening, that's now backfired and he now holds all those cards.

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Thrilling undercard by Mayweather promotions. Check out Davis in the lightweight bout. Shades of Prince Naseem. Two amazing fights.

Main event coming then, be hard to top those two undercard fights to be honest.

Jack's suspect chin showing instantly.

Majority draw. I think Jack deserved the win. I'll take the draw as fair but I cant believe DeGale has managed to get those combos turned into round wins. He was truly awful boxing wise tonight but great as a warrior. His timing was horrendous, failed to utilise any speed or movement because he couldn't time punches and caught leather pretty much every single time. It's the fact that judges scores those combos that got him right out of the deep end and surprised me.and rightfully a few of the fans too. Jack landed the far cleaner and better shots and completely controlled the fight from the third till the tenth and got himself a 10-8 round late on. He did enough to win.

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Chris Eubank Jr v Renold Quinlan live on ITV Box Office

Tonight: Undercard has the likes of David Price on it :erm:

Who is Renold Quinlan? A 12-1 (I wish 12-1 wasn't true) boxer holding an IBO title he fluked when he knocked out the awful Geale in 2016.

This is a straight forward win for Eubank Jr whom has done a lot of talking but is yet to actually fight anyone on the next level, notably losing to fellow brit Billy Joe Saunders. This is an awful advert for launching a PPV channel.

Prime examples of why this is truly awful for PPV standards. The Sky box office bubble nearly exploded thanks to fights like Khan vs Salita and Haye vs Harrison. This is up there with one of those.

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Absolutely horrific display from David Price. Absolute pub fighter, knackered after 4 rounds and we're still going :erm: Guy gets rocked with every shot he takes. Embarrassing display from a once gobby 'unbeatable'

You'd have to see this just to see how horrible he is, flopping all over the ropes, bending over for breaks.

Edit: Stopped, absolutely embarrassing.

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I love the way Eubank and Co were banging on about bringing Boxing back to the masses via terrestrial TV blah, blah, blah, then went PPV at the first opportunity. Who'd have thought... :rolleyes:

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He actually wanted it on Sky Box office, they knocked it back and offered a Sky sports 1 slot, he turned it down and negotiated with ITV whom offered the fight on a new channel at £13 a pop.

So to have looked at Sky first and then in a desperate attempt for money signing with ITV on a PPV basis, it just shows it was never on the agenda. It was a move to stir up a few fans for a British fighter that's really lacking a fanbase. He's a gobby one that continuously calls out big names then disappears and fights a mandatory or as we have tonight, a 12-1 fighter on PPV. We're in the 7th now and it's hardly being anything worth paying for.

Eubank has this, but this should have been done ages ago, if he takes this guy all the way then it really shows what level Eubank Jr is still at. There's no way in hell this guy lasts 6 rounds with Golovkin, his defense isn't brilliant and you can't measure his skills that well when he's fighting stationary nobodies and showboating every other round. He throws incredibly wild punches that the likes of GGG will counter and batter him on. This is still the Eubank that avoided a Billy Joe Saunders rematch.

The highlight of a drab PPV thus far is David Price taking a mid round nap on the ropes.

Howard foster spares Eubank Jr's blushes and ends the fight amid Eubank pressure

Took him 10 rounds to get him out, without a knockdown either. Pretty drab fight and as expected given the embarrassing Price fight, a poor advert for PPV boxing by ITV. Now onto the part where he calls out everyone miles better than him then runs off for 5 months before taking on his mandatory.

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I wasn't referring to this fight. It was some time ago they were saying how important it was to have a mass audience but then they saw the £ signs as always.

Didn't see the fight so can't comment on that.

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Summed up perfectly.

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:rofl:

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Kell Brook has seemingly agreed to fight Errol Spence... please for the love of god be in Vegas and not Sheffield. After Golovkin, Brook needs some exposure on a pretty average career.

Spence is heavy handed and a great up and coming talent. Hands like the Pacman. Brook has a solid chin though as proven against one of the best in the world. Brook would be the strongest that Spence has fought too so I'd lean slightly for Brook in this fight but to be honest it's an unknown entity. Brook has spent far too long messing around that I struggle to measure his actual ability. I might have been premature in saying there's very few people at 147 that could put Brook on the deck and even fewer that will be able to stand 12 rounds. I think that'll become a reality if he navigates Spence though.

As for where Khan goes, I simply don't know. I rarely find myself agreeing with Brook but he nailed it the other night at the Eubank fight. It's becoming impossible to make a fight with Amir because he's Amir Kardashian.. He spends so much time fannying around outside the ring all over the world getting his picture taken that Boxing is almost a distant last. Brook's completely right too.
The pundit nailed it too, Amir doesn't want to fight Brook in England. He wants the fight in the US, MGM style. A 70/30 winners split means nothing to Khan with the money he can make in the US. As he put, Amir is a prizefighter, he's a typical US Welterweight now, people think he's afraid to lose but fighting Canelo burned that quickly. He'll do anything for money.

Joshua - Still excited but still annoyed he's with Eddie Hearn, I want to see him move to a better camp and get himself really established because I still feel someone like Haye or Wilder is gonna have his number and before you know it, he's sharing a rope with David Price.

You have GGG coming up, Haye vs Bellew which in 'wrestling terms' is a squash match.

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Yep, it's all I could do too. Astonished that this lad managed to come in the ring at 19st and rant about reviving his career against a talent booster like Christian, only to gas in the fourth round and start bending over the ropes for breaks, it was incredible to see. I never grasped at it when I first saw him do it, I thought he was pulling shenanigans to force a ref step in and sending them back to the center, a tactic to get yourself off the ropes. The second time I realized he was deliberately putting himself on the ropes to take a breather, something you see a lot in boxing in different classes... in round 10 and 11, not round 4. I've never seen someone lean over the ropes for a good 5 second breather before though, he struggled to get off them and I was sure it was over there and then. It was so close to that amazing Kimbo Slice vs Dada 5000 MMA Attempt, in which both hilariously rubbish overweight fighters gassed in round one and forced the ref to call a TKO exhaustion decision.

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Amir Khan vs Manny Pacquiao talks underway

Expect confirmation in a few days to a week with a date set shortly.

Interesting fight, If Manny can't knock Khan out I think he loses over 12 rounds. Manny Pacquiao just doesn't seem to have it in him anymore.

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Amir Khan vs Manny Pacquiao

Confirmed. April 23rd, as above, a pretty weird fight. Sparring partners and friends. Location TBC but was expected to be in the UAE.

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Michael Bisping signs agreement to fight Georges St Pierre upon his return for the UFC MW title.

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This is an absolute scheduling mess but I'll try to get as much of it watched as possible live. Beyond annoyed at this scheduling.

That's the Sky Box Office card live from 18:30 live from the O2 London


Live from 2am (March 5th) on BoxNation


Live 5th March 3am BT Sports 2



Live from 1am March 19th UK, Live coverage TBC

Joshua vs Klitschko will be done nearer.

All in all an absolute epic weekend of Combat sports in what's an epic month that'll end with Joshua fighting Wlad. Thurman vs Garcia is the clash of WW titans.

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Khabib vs Ferguson has been cancelled amid illness

Ferguson opted not to take a step in fight, can't blame him, not even a week's notice. Expecting an undercard fight to be moved up in that order.

Alistair Overeem vs. Mark Hunt is a likely shot now for a co-main event or Rashad Evans vs Dan Kelly.

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That's annoying I had khabib. Gone for Craig, Woodley, Henrique and Overeem never bet on ufc before but I had such a profitable day yesterday at the races I thought what the hell. I wouldn't be surprised to see Bellew win either.

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Bellew has to get through 12 rounds without Haye landing a power shot, I just can't see it happening, other than money I can't fathom a good reason for Bellew to take this fight at all. I don't know what they're anticipating but unless you're sparring with someone like Wilder he's just not prepared for the right hand that's about to smack him. I thought Chisora did well to last 5 rounds with Haye given his limited skill set, but Chisora has a steel chin, he's still never been decked by anyone else bar Haye.

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Bellew doesn't seem money oriented but he is smart, we'll find out how smart soon enough

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Always great to see Paulie fighting, such a respectful genuine bloke.

Paulie loses but as per, great post match interview, never heard this guy make an excuse ever.

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Here we go then, the circus is about to begin. A punt on Bellew would net you a bit. Haye's trying to decapitate him and looking sloppy. Bellew is executing a plan.

It's happening. Ah there's the first, stuns Bellew, he's slowing too, still in the balance but Haye's a one puncher, still not the start I expected. Going quite the opposite at the minute, it's Bellew that's wearing down. Hahahaha, I think he's legs done. Looks like his leg has gone.

Just get him out man, seriously? Are they actually serious? Letting a guy fight with one leg.

This is disgraceful, how is this still going on? That leg isn't just going to magically repair itself. He can barely walk, this is incredible. Bellew can't get him out of there, but this is dangerous.

I've never witnessed anything like it, this is just stupid. His leg gets worse every second he's in there. Even if by some Miracle he finishes this, he's risking never coming back. I'd like to think Bellew is holding it back out of sportsmanship.

It's finally stopped. Just unnecessary that.

No disrespect to Bellew but to now call that an upset is just diabolical. Haye was controlling him until the knee buckled. From then on in it was just an absolute disgrace for him to be allowed to compete. Bellew had great movement though, not sure if he was holding back on Haye after the injury because he really should be finishing that. If Haye's getting injuries, he should call it.

For the laughing part further up I missed the knee buckle and thought Haye had been caught. I'd call him a warrior, but that was nothing short of stupid. They'll sell a rematch of course in which I think an uninjured Haye will take him out. I'd love to give credit to the winner but I'm struggling to call him a winner given it was Haye delivering up until the injury. Scorecards had it Haye 4-1 pre-injury too. People can say this fight delivered but it really didn't. It was an unfortunate turnaround. I struggle to give credit to Bellew but his gameplan was solid, he wasn't winning with it but he avoided massive shots way better than others have. Haye credited Bellew for that himself too, because it was true, Bellew avoided what many people have failed to do.

Thurman vs Garcia next.

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Just seen a replay of the injury happening, it's horrible, it's clear his tendon just snaps. Doesn't even mention it post fight. It'd have been typical for a Haye win by KO, it'd have been massive for Bellew to win over 12, but this is just underwhelming. the last rounds of that fight should be remembered as a boxing disgrace. Everyone's quick to already jump on the Haye is a warrior bandwagon but I just didn't see the need to go on. That's added months to his recovery that. He's lost via towel anyway and once you see the injury replay and his ankle crumble, there's no shame in chucking that towel in right there.

This will go down as Bellew fluked a win over a one legged fighter, and that Haye is done with, he can't stay injury free. For those unaware, he had surgery on his shoulder to repair that, he also suffered an ankle injury just last week and we've seen how that's turned out. Above all else, maybe David Haye will re-consider his awful boxing footwear, which did him absolutely no justice tonight.

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He's financially secure now according to him and fought solely for the dosh, didn't care if he lost. :D Pretty stunning thing to say post match.

Injury video: https://twitter.com/Taggsy79/status/...948545/video/1

Just checking around the usual places after fights, the support for Haye is surprisingly overwhelming.. given that Klitschko injury cackfest. Bellew seems to still be getting hate and fans demanding a rematch. A lot of Hate for BBC's article though. Haye is set on the rematch I bet, that's why he failed to mention the injury as the reason he lost, he'll sharp start using it when Bellew signs on for fight two though. Not sure if Bellew would go for it though, said it himself he was struggling when Haye did land and his gameplan was to gas Haye out, except it was him running out of Steam whilst Haye stood on one leg. Injured or not though it's gotta go down as a loss. I can't see Haye wanting to take that, but it's whether his body allows him to even step foot in a ring again.

Just read the BBC article people are complaining about, just facepalm, it's the most lopsided analysis of the fight I've seen. Haye gassed? When did this happen? He snapped something but damn he never slowed down, he had more gas in the tank than Bellew did that's for sure and was still swinging for the fences with one leg. What the hell were they watching? Now they've got a double take. ''Bellew beats injured Haye'' ''Bellew stuns Haye with sensational stoppage''

Luke Reddy is the one writing it and naturally fans are making themselves heard by that often stupid comments section underneath
Updates on the pretty horrid injury: Early signs and I stress early as they could be BS suggest this is odds on a career ending injury, I just wonder if those unnecessary rounds made it that much worse. It's also been confirmed by Haye that he that press release a few days ago that had Haye claiming his camp made up an achilles injury to give Bellew a sense of false confidence was in fact a false flag and that Haye and his camp were very close to calling the right off because the injury did exist and tonight it pretty much exploded.

All round, I'm gutted, There was no knockout, there was no masterclass from Bellew, it was no classic, it was a broken boxer being chased around the ring after round 6. I'm gutted for Haye for obvious reasons and I'm gutted for Bellew because deep down it's not the real victory he wanted from it all either.

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Haye is straight in for surgery.

Thurman vs Garcia incoming, UFC 209 clashing with it.

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Overeem nearly decapitates Hunt with a brutal knee. Some weird tactics on display by Reem that got some negative reactions but he sharp changes that with a finish.

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Thurman stuns Garcia and hands him his first loss. Split decision was wrong I think, Thurman should have had it unanimously. Sweet justice for Thurman given Garcia's father's racist tendencies. Rematch will end up happening of course. Wonder if we'll get the outcome of Brook/Spence vs Thurman now.

Woodley retains in arguably one of the worst fights ever seen in UFC. Both fighters were boo'd throughout and then boo'd off after an awful showing that saw roughly 80 seconds of physicality over 25 minutes.

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That's odd, I heard his manager say the other day that if he wanted money there was plenty of it on offer in Hollywood after his performance in creed.

I knew he'd win and think he'd have worn him down over time regardless of the injury, I was certain of it when Haye came in so heavy. Bellew reminded me of Chris eubank just before the first nigel Benn fight, someone who had a plan, who'd seen something all the experts hadn't and had the brains and skill to pull it off, I won a load of cash that night to!

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I'm not sure he'll get Wilder unless he's the one willing to travel. The comments suggesting the ball's in his court are skewed a bit. I think Wilder would face him and likely blast him (Sloppy but deadly fighter) but he'll want it in the US on his own terms and not in a football stadium on Merseyside. Guy has genuinely nice words about everyone and I don't begrudge him getting paid either, he comes off as a guy that's having to work double to get paid enough.

I think his comments today confirm he pulled back after the injury and rightly so. He asked Haye and his corner to call it a day. Stopping it there and then in the 6th would've been the best thing for everyone.

Still in shock over Thurman beating Garcia, seems 147 is opening up now Floyd's gone.

Woodley vs Thompson at 209 was a disaster though. An absolute flop of a main event. Not sure what could be done in the aftermath but I'd be docking them dollars and refunding the paying attendance a portion of their ticket price after watching both fighters literally try to counter each other for 23 and a half minutes out of 25. So two counter punchers literally refused to throw first and merely circled the Octagon to repeated boo's.

Feeling it today, avoided alcohol to avoid falling asleep but managed to knock back a 12" Pizza and chips, 6 500ml belly rotters (Energy drinks) a few bottles of Lucozade and a few bits in between.

Likely be a gathering event for Joshua vs Klitschko. Excited for GGG vs Jacobs though.

There was also something else in Bellews comments last night that suggested the actual flare up to the Haye fight was rigged and that if he beat Flores he should instigate it by that ringside confrontation. Mentioning Haye had approached him with a list of potential fights he had coming up but asked Tony if he'd like to be on it.

Then again there's not many daft enough to buy into the build up anymore because its mostly false hype to sell a fight.

Onto the money comments he made after the fight, I don't think he meant it as he's just had an amazing pay day, I think by securing his financial future and not caring about winning or losing he meant that the fight has now given him a new platform he never had and hes no longer having to worry about the future. It'll take another fight with Haye to equal that amount but he'll make a load more fighting known Heavyweights than he will fighting Cruiserweights.

Wilder then? Unlikely. Chisora would be an even bout but again they appear to be best mates so unlikely. That leaves Dillian Whyte maybe? It's all British and could be a PPV undercard shortly down the line.

I'll be surprised of Haye can recover. I liked him more as a floater between Cruiser and Heavy. He looked way more dangerous then. He should consider dropping that weight, regaining that speed. It seems he built himself slowly to match Klitschko or Joshua and not give away 4 stones a bout. Still think he'd be far more dangerous to fight the lesser he weighs, guy always has been. Again though, be great to see him recover and possibly come in smaller but there's surely no rematch in the summer as suggested because he's not coming back that quickly if at all.

Was released from Hospital earlier, may be a good sign.

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Dear lord.

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Haye won't retire according to a conversation he's just had with Carl Froch, he'll work on the injury and possibly drop back to being a bigger than most cruiserweight, which to be fair is when he was most dangerous.

He'll chase the rematch and there's a high chance of getting that too, Hearn wants Parker or Wilder for Bellew but I can't see either of them fighting in the UK and Bellew stands to make nothing fighting them in the US compared to what Haye and Bellew would both make in the UK on PPV, especially since Bellew will get the bigger purse second time round. This is one of those occasions where I'm not that fussed about the money involved. Bellew's went an entire career making basically buttons compared to the rest, win or lose he's getting paid now and in his own words can secure his and his family's future, so it's admirable.

As for UK Boxing we're onto Joshua vs Klitschko.

This will give us a real indication of what Joshua's actually packing in those hands. If Haye can get to Klitschko which under scrutiny of that fight you'll see he did, I definitely think Joshua has a fair chance of putting him down, Haye was much smaller, had less reach and less chance of setting up any form of jab, Klitschko leaned on him the entire fight and Haye couldn't tee off. Klitschko couldn't lean on Fury and he'll not be leaning on Joshua either. Go in there and fight like Haye would except being a foot taller and stones heavier, Klitschko want's a boring jab fest, not right hooks swinging at him.

If Joshua gets through this on points I'll be happy, I'll be elated if he puts him out though. The only question that will remain is what is going to happen when that chin gets a decent crack, still cacking myself for a repeat of the golden boy Amir Khan. Someone like Wilder is bound to fluke a power shot on him. The longer you go, the worse it's going to be. If he wins though, he holds the cards in baiting Wilder to the UK. It will be the start of the new base of Heavyweight boxing, here in the UK.

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Tyson Fury announced May return date

Nope. Isn't happening, not if you've seen his current shape. It's incredible, there's no way that man makes it into a decent bout without doping. With that said there's a chance he'll literally fight someone from the local pub near you.

I'd like him to actually get into shape and sort something out.

Haye, Bellew, Joshua, Fury, Wilder, Parker, Ortiz. That's the current crop of Heavyweights with the addition of a floating cruiserweight.

I think you go for Haye vs Bellew II. Fury vs Joshua, the winner of Joshua/Fury then attempts to unify via Wilder with Haye/Bellew going after Parker or Ortiz. The winner of Bellew and Haye may have to take a second builder fight against any of the losers before fighting the ultimate winner themselves. If Bellew beat Haye twice, he'd be a proper shoe in for a shot right then but Haye would need two fights. If Haye can't get Bellew he's then got a rank to climb putting even more fights on his list, something he can't deal with at 36 imo.

Haye is determined to be a World Champion again but he'll not get the treatment Fury will get upon returning. He'll have to take the rematch with Bellew then another after that before fighting for possibly unified titles which would be harder. By then, Joshua could have taken the scary shots we're worried about and repeat Haye vs Klitschko.

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Khan vs Pacman cancelled

Money failed to materialize, was expected 31.5 million was on offer in the UAE for the fight but both Khan and Pacman have pulled it after agreeing a split but discovering the pot won't be available in the latter half of 2017. Both expected to pursue different fights now.

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Live from 1am March 19th UK, Live coverage: Box Nation, BT Sports 2

Have no idea why this is on both sub based channel BoxNation and package channel BT. I expect the ever greedy Frank Warren (Boxnation) is absolutely livid.

Khan vs Pacman will go ahead, awaiting confirmation they've decided to take the December option, venue looks to still be the UAE after it was made clear the money was unavailable till December. Manny I'd expect to be doing this now, prizefighting for the wonga, but Khan really is selling out, a fight a year for big bucks.

Joshua vs Klitschko coming next post.

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A reminder that UFC: London is underway, main card at 9pm @ BT Sports 2.

Prelims, not really worth the watch but available at https://i.redd.it/mexx5fke27my.jpg

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Golovkin scrapes a poor decision win over Jacobs. I don't even think he won it to be honest. He looked so disinterested.

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Biggest fight of the year is upon us, assuming McGregor vs Mayweather falls in on itself.

Nervous, excited and doubtful. Is it too early for Joshua? Klitschko has a solid chin but Haye worried him numerous times depite being massively smaller, if Joshua does carry real power which this is the test for, he could put Klitschko out here. Klitschko can't bang like he used too, so if Joshua gets put down it's really bad. A drab 12 round feeling out fight would be horrible.

Just got a horrible feeling Wlad's experience could embarrass Joshua if he tries to box him over 12 rounds. Joshua needs to in and unload.

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£25 for hyped up rubbish?.

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£19.95

Yet to see Sky break the £20 barrier yet. The £5 fluctuations between boxing and other live events is annoying though.

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Wembley looks great again hosting the boxing, what a massive main event. This could destroy or cement British Heavyweight boxing.

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I have a whole £2 on wlad

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ANTHONY JOSHUA batters Klitschko in the 11th round, what a rollercoaster

Ultimate findings, despite the win, Joshua's defence is absolutely horrible, that return barrage from a wobbled Wlad just kept coming and Joshua took every single shot, how do you floor a guy then take umpteen unanswered shots? It was amateur level stuff, you can not do that, Wilder hits way harder than this. The power is real, the test was there, one of the strongest chins in the business just got shot. Movement, poor again like his defence, it's really worrying how stationary he is, a 40 year old Klitschko was far more agile and mobile, chin - meh, Wlad doesn't land big shots anymore, unless they're polish taxi drivers, I'm hoping taking these shots really up his game. Cardio - David Price level, 8 punches and gassed, let the finish come to you I guess, stop chasing it.

This guy can be better than Lewis. He's not a complete fighter but get him in the gym, work on his defence, get his cardio game up and you've got an unbeatable Heavyweight.

Wilder, Fury, Haye, Bellew, Parker.. People sniffing around the division.

Wilder, Fury and Parker being the go to, all of those make me nervous, there has to be a way to get Joshua into a lower mandatory with some bum until he's ready. Wilder isn't a good boxer, he is however a massive power puncher, way harder than Klitschko, all it takes is that fluky one shot and AJ's defence allows that. Parker is the safest option. Make that happen. Then make Fury happen, then drag Wilder here.

All in all, British boxing is truly alive again! I don't think I can watch round 5-6 again though.

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And this is what they call heavyweight boxing as l have seen drunken clowns fight better...:nono::nono:

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Well done Joshua! I caught the end of round 6 onwards on the radio and the ups and downs were incredible but radio always make these events more exciting I feel. Until round 11 I was expecting him to lose on points but the end was sensational.

Yes he has a whole lot to learn but he's been severely tested and come through so what more can anyone ask? I'll be very surprised if this fight isn't the best lesson he's ever had and he'd be stupid not to learn as much from it as possible. He was taken into uncharted territory by an exceptional pro who knows every move and trick in the book so to hang on in there and summon the will to win by the only means left to him (given the points score) is a great tribute to him.

I've heard some stuff about the amount of time the referee gave Klitschko after his knock downs - wiping gloves, gesturing to Joshua etc. - but have no idea if that was anything unusual. Did he do the same thing in rounds 5 and 6? If so, what's the issue?

Finally, I think it was so refreshing not to have to endure the sort of pre-fright and weigh in staged nonsense and nastiness we've become accustomed to so well done to both camps for that. Surely no boxing fan in their right mind would want their sport to go any further down the route of professional wrestling...

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Yes that was nice to see as for many of us the nonsense beforehand in the lot of boxing fights was a unbecoming spectacle that is firmly from that in the gutter.

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Anything Klitschko did was settled when Joshua spat his guard out the round after hitting the floor. He was knackered.

His chin will learn from the fight as you'd expect. You can't teach cardio though and the way Joshua gassed was amateur level stuff, almost David Price level, blowing like a steam train and struggling to stand after throwing 8 or so big shots is a recipe for disaster and he really did survive it by the skin of his teeth. He just stood and ate shot after shot before the bell finally rang. He didn't recover in the corner and Klitschko blasted him the next round. It was like watching Amir Khan after hes been rocked making every possible mistake available on the table.

His defence and cardio really need worked on.

Deontay Wilder as awful as his skills are would fluke a shot through Joshua's defence. If Joshua can lock down a defence and a 12 round system then hes unbeatable. Right now though i think Fury has the best chance, Wilder has a fair chance and Parker/Ortiz have outside chances.

I'd love to see him knock Fury out but he really needs to fix the above because Fury will look to outbox and drag him deep. I still have doubts that Fury will ever be in any shape to compete again.

At least the power is real, there's no heavyweight in the division that will take those shots.

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Having now watched the entire fight I don't really think the referee did much wrong. He didn't hesitate to step in when VK was being clubbed on the ropes and I've seen many occasions when that hasn't happened and fighters have suffered unnecessarily.

From what I've seen I think both fighters deserve credit. Boxing doesn't need all the gratuitous nastiness which seems to be infecting it in the pursuit of ratings or YouTube hits. Respect where it's due and both of them get mine, albeit for different reasons.

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Klitschko looking at the rematch clause. Why? what's the point? Joshua is the younger and far stronger fighter here, his cardio and defence can only go up, not down. It's a repeat performance minus the gassing and Amir Khan-like panicky defence he had on show, meaning Klitschko doesn't floor Joshua this time but finds himself out even earlier.

Klitschko should go out fighting a guaranteed win in Germany in front of his fans, not with 3 losses on the bounce. Keep that legacy intact.

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Only one winner there...

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I'm not solid on that, I'd like him to win via KO but if the Golovkin that turned up to face Jacobs is fighting that fight with Canelo then he'll lose comfortably on points. Golovkin really has to put on a performance here.

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Seeing Baby Slice win on Bellator (Spike, tonight) reminded me of the late Kimbo Slice and to wonder if his passing at only 42 was discussed here. Any idea Adzii?

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IIRC it was. Can't use the search on mobile. I didn't mind the guy but there was definitely something up towards the end. His fight with Dada 5000 was horrific. The way both men gassed after a round and led to a TKO via exhaustion. It took balls to get into a ring with no viable professional level training though. Not a legend but definitely gutsy.

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Can't find it, if it exists :erm:

As far as I'm aware he had serious heart complications, not sure if that was fully aware of before he had fights with Dada 5000 or Shamrock. Problem was, he wasn't exactly training hard enough for fights, it's an accepted likelihood that he was doping throughout his MMA career too and was laid back in training which I doubt helped the condition he was in and would later expand into him needing a heart transplant.

It's worth noting Dada 5000 essentially died after the fight and had to be revived.

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Thanks Adzii :). Kimbo was someone I first saw purely by accident on youtube. He was a fierce looking guy but of course MMA fights with pros are a whole different ball game. There was mention of 'heart failure' and 'a liver mass'. The doping looks likely. Sad that he is gone though; he was instantly recognisable and, all things said and done, he was only 42. Not sure Baby Slice will enjoy that level of charisma.

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Absolute madness at the Andre Dirrell and Jose Uzcategui fight.

Uzcategui landed after the bell and floored Dirrell, naturally everyone is calling for his head and everyone comes to the same conclusion, easy DQ. He does indeed land after the bell and fairly cleanly, however the context building up to that point is muddled. Firstly, it's apparent that Uzcategui had landed after the bell in previous rounds. Then you have to account for him being in full flow, a three punch combination, the third shot being the main focus for the after the bell shot, then you have to account for the referee himself to call for the 5 second to bell mark, in which the bell then went off 3 seconds later.

https://twitter.com/TheSportsJunky1?...Fr%2FBoxing%2F

All that is present in the above clip.

Then after the DQ decision, someone from Dirrell's corner comes and throws a sucker punch at Uzcategui:

https://twitter.com/I_am_fontaine/st...90927516942337

DQ decision could go either way, maybe a points deduction given the circumstances surrounding the shot after the bell and a 5 minute recovery for Andre Dirrell.

The corner man is currently wanted for assault.

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Kell Brook vs Errol Spence is tonight.

Americans have their own as the favourite.. as usual but I can't find myself believing that Spence is going to KO Brook. It's not usually the go to logic in boxing but despite knowing Brook was out on his feet against Golovkin, he was still stood up, Golovkin's power is on a whole different level, so with that argument I can't see the KO finish by Spence that the Americans keep hyping up. If anything I have a feeling Brook will catch him flush with an uppercut and that'll be that.

It's another story in which Spence is actually an untested specimen, but he's riding a hype train. The sad part is Brook is hardly much different in that aspect but has 10+ more fights under his belt. :erm:

A loss for Brook would literally finish him, a fighter with one big name on his record as a loss then a defeat to an up and comer would absolutely shatter any future hope. A Spence loss would be a similar outcome to Adrien Broner's downfall.. a hype train derailing. It's recoverable though.

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George Groves finally becomes Super Middleweight Champion

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Kell Brook's career is hanging by a thread.

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Kell Brook is stopped.

That eye isn't helping. I can't see a way back to the big league for Brook. It's fair to say Golovkin ended Brook. So there's that and noting that Special K isn't exactly so special.

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Brook was incredibly stupid to fight Golovkin IMO as he should have kept to the division that he was good in.

Night to see Groves win a world title at last.

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David Hate and medical team confirm he'll make a complete recovery. Bellew is still on track. Whether they'll collide again remains to be seen. Maybe it makes more sense for Bellew to hunt down Parker or Wilder and Have to hunt down Parker or Wilder too, then assuming they both win they can rematch with the winner facing Joshua.

Absolutely loving heavyweight boxing right now.

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Seriously?.:nono::nono:

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Haye and Bellew set to announce rematch after other heavyweight boxers took little interest in Bellew. Not entirely sure if they'll both make it back before the years end.

On a second note though, Mcguigans separation from Haye has been speculated to be down to Shane's belief that the Achilles problem isn't going to disappear which was then contradicted by the physio whom claims it's been a complete success. Adam Booth waded into the argument and suggested Haye is unhappy with his style under Shane. No one actually knows much except Haye looked sloppy and had blatantly lied about being injured to avoid cancelling the fight.

Amir Khan is penned in for December TBA.

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Mark Hunt stops Derek Lewis in the battle of the KO.

Er, embarrassing ending to a drab fight. TKO via exhaustion after Lewis just backs off and takes a nap on the cage. Pretty embarrassing advert for UFC as echoes of Kimbo vs Dada rung out. World ranked #6 Heavyweight that can't make the 5th round?

They're calling it a TKO unanswered punches but you'd have to see it to note that the guy just can't be arsed any longer.

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Just watched it on YT, seen much better fights in the school playground.

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One trick pony was Derek Lewis. He couldn't land the big shots on Hunt and he gassed in the 3rd and failed to recover, was pretty naff watching him lean on the cage for a round before taking a knee and calling it a night. Again though, a pretty embarrassing advert for UFC considering he was the #6 Heavyweight in the world going into that fight.

Hunt didn't help either by being overly cautious of Lewis' power, that tends to happen when you put two knockout machines together, they circle each other barely throwing or completely missing because they're both so hesitant and quick to move backwards.

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Boom and just like that Holly Holm is back, that was a vicious snap headkick that well.. I can't describe it, it's a flash knockout, she's just standing and rendering it before collapsing and eating a vicious follow up punch.

Bethe Correia was taunting less than ten seconds before being put to sleep too. It's the same style of kick she ended Rousey's career with.

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Brook has undergone eye surgery. Expecting a retirement to be fair. His career as a P4P contender is over, it's a career filled with should've or could've but he opted to fight mandatory challengers and absolute bums for the majority of his career whilst parading as a legitimate champion. He ventured to the US on one occasion to take a title but couldn't find the will to do it again and reach a new level, he opted to stay at the one level throughout his career and then fell victim to Ricky Hatton's downfall.. the fact he'd sat at the same level, making no adjustments or going up notches, improving etc that when he finally took a big fight he was exposed horribly in the way that Mayweather undid Hatton before Pacman finished him off... same story with Brook and Golovkin and then Thurman finished him off.

If he persists and demands he fight Khan then so be it, beforehand I had Brook with a chance of knocking Khan out and competing over 12 rounds. If Brook can't put Khan away he'll get battered by Amir over 12 rounds. If Thurman is breaking Brook with a few well placed shots then Amir and his speed and accuracy are going to cause an absolute nightmare for Brook that'll only end in an inevitable TKO via injury.

That's always been the case with Khan though, if you can't stop him dead, he'll batter you for 12 rounds with ease. One of the most exciting offensive 147's in the world but lacks the defensive skillset to be the best.

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Free boxing currently on Spike then Channel 5 at 10pm. :)

Interesting British fights due to the differing standards of refereeing. You'll see a lot of punch measuring (Poking your hand to someone's face before throwing your opposite shot) Its not against the rules but something that's been unanimously agreed upon to stop it as much as possible at the top level. Different divisions have it all differently though. See a lot of it at Heavyweight but its called out a lot at Welterweight.

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Not sure who Josh Taylor really is but I've seen O'Hara hyped up in recent weeks and in the gym with David Haye, that's a serious name to be have backing you early in your career.

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Guy just walked to the ring WWE's The Undertaker theme. Not sure if I'm making it up or it actually happened. :D

Taylor is odds on but O'Hara's starting to reverse that on a handful of bookies. Bit of an awkward one for a punt.

I lied I have seen Taylor before. He was on an undercard in the US and performed well.

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O'Hara's stance is awkward for the opponent but really it seems to be detrimental to him too. Leaves him wide open and his accuracy is shocking. Those uppercuts are horrible. Guy will gas or go down at this rate. He's constantly off balance asking to be knocked over and has been tagged twice because he's wide open when he lunges in.

Taylor wins this easily if he boxes and doesn't get into a scrap like the 6th. O'Hara's skill is really lacking. He's so late to every punch.

That was absolutely incredible. Horrifying level of boxing skill displayed from O'Hara Davies. Why there was hype surrounding him for the past few weeks has me bemused.

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Yep, I saw the fight. Tbh I was concerned at the end for Ohara Davies and think maybe the ref should have ended the fight sooner. Ohara didn't look right when he got up after the knock down and if it's possible to see that on TV, surely the ref could see it? One more really connecting punch and Ohara could have been hurt badly. I've never forgotten the Gerald McClellan/Nigel Benn fight...

Taylor was quick and skilful and he was always going to win but I think he found Ohara's crouching style awkward for a bit.

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Onwards to UFC 213, Nunes drops her fight despite being cleared for it. Still a decent card. Battle of the glass chins as Co main event.

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Nice to see we have one thing in common as the both follow the pugilist sport.:Yikes:

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Indeed. I always follow adzii's posts - he knows his stuff :)

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Yep he is certainly very knowledgeable about Boxing..

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Had this as a rumour a few days ago bit a few places are now reporting it as a done deal.

David Haye is expected to make an announcement for a multi-fight deal for FTA boxing on Dave, that'd put Bellew plans on the shelf surely.

Numerous reasons for this, firstly being he is not as clued up on how his Achilles will hold up as he claims to be. So call it a test run if you may. Secondly being Bellew is in that same boat and his injury isn't as simple as first thought. Haye looks lighter to me, facts need to back that up though. Lastly, it's no secret he's after a bit of money.

Can only really speculate what the future holds for David Haye really. Is this a tune up or is he permanently damaged? I have a sinking feeling his Achilles is way worse than he's letting on and it was already known there was a medical testing clause in the option for a rematch with Bellew.

To over speculate, maybe he's going to announce his return to cruiserweight to fight Bellew there. That would shock the entire division. One could dream I guess. Cruiserweight division would do with a name taking it to box office level.

All in all, injured or not I doubt Haye probably isn't going to let the Bellew rematch go.

Announcement is expected tomorrow anyway and that's from the horse's mouth.

Amir Khan was offered to pay the funeral bill for the family killed in the Bolton house fire. I admire the charity of this bloke but his boxing career is really fading away fast. He seems to be promoting a boxing league or attending charity gigs.

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Rare opportunity to say it but Mayweather is rattled. He doesn't like the McGregor style conference at all, especially with the majority of the anti Mayweather crowd. Whilst I doubt he's scared of McGregor inside a ring for 12 rounds there can be absolutely no doubt he fears McGregor's short fuse outside of it by constantly swarming himself with bodyguards anytime Conor threatens to break loose. This has lead to a warning that McGregor will start dropping bodyguards if it keeps up.

As expected McGregor is way ahead I'm the conferences and especially noting that Mayweather isn't quite Mr Money anymore. (See Mayweather tax issue) it seems his money has been tied up leaving him with relatively little to spend and unable to pay his tax bill.

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Forgot to mention that the Haye situation was somewhat correct. He's signed a promotions deal with Dave as well as a stable of fighters to compete on the FTA channel for 2 years. Absolutely great move for boxing lovers. What's unknown is whether he himself is competing on the channel. He did announce a December return with Bellew still favourite which would mean no FTA showing but again that's just speculation. He could still fight on Dave against someone else.

All in all the news of him signing Joe Joyce and others to fight on FTA is cracking news. Bar himself fighting on the channel a few years back its a welcome addition to prospects fighting on FTA TV like channel 5 have been showing.

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Reminder that Eubank vs Abraham is on tonight via ITV Box office.

Expect Eubank to win. Abraham is your average level middleweight. He's not awful but he's not capable of fighting the very best either. Just wondering what Eubank is actually aiming for in his career. It's been far from spectacular so far.

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Either Abraham is one tough sob or juniors punches aren't massively powerful, I suspect it mainly the former with a tiny bit of the latter, just glad I never had a bet on it because I had a feeling toward a late stoppage in favour of the German.

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Another spoon fed fight yet again.

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Chris Weidman recovers from his slump with a submission win. He got floored in the first round though. Forever shot takedowns. Can't see him returning to his former glory as a UFC Champion. He has no chin and given the relentless ground game he executed, he doesn't have much faith in his stand up ability against guys that can strike back.