Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35647154)

Oh dear Dave your pessimistic view of things is getting the better of you again.:)

Originally Posted by nicknewark (Post 35647118)

My sister has just been offered a great deal from SKY to go back, Free unlimited Broadband and free Sky TV for a year!. (Not Moives/Sport), but still a fab offer, she just has to pay line rental.

Originally Posted by geordiechris (Post 35647133)

Personally I like all the various chat that goes on in here. There can be some quite informative information, not necessarily of what is coming soon, but of what is also doing rounds (offers etc.) from other tv providers that you wouldn't necessarily know about.

Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 35647224)

What i find Vince is this, there are loads and loads of channels on VM and Sky, most of which imo are total tosh, there are, granted, some really good channels from both companies, but a lot of people on here just seem to want more and more, i ask this question, where the heck do you guys get the time to watch all this TV? :scratch:

Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 35647224)

What i find Vince is this, there are loads and loads of channels on VM and Sky, most of which imo are total tosh, there are, granted, some really good channels from both companies, but a lot of people on here just seem to want more and more, i ask this question, where the heck do you guys get the time to watch all this TV? :scratch:

Originally Posted by Frazz (Post 35647231)

I agree with you,I generally only watch from a selection of about 12-15 channels and there are more than half of the rest that show complete rubbish. If you were able to chose only the channels you watched you should be able to save each month, the only problem is these channels have to be bought in as part of the deal

Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 35647224)

What i find Vince is this, there are loads and loads of channels on VM and Sky, most of which imo are total tosh, there are, granted, some really good channels from both companies, but a lot of people on here just seem to want more and more, i ask this question, where the heck do you guys get the time to watch all this TV? :scratch:

Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35647237)

There seem to be only two things that people on here really want and there are good reasons for them:

Sky Atlantic, because for those who like critically acclaimed US drama, that's a massive source, which VM are lacking

HD channels, for the obvious reason that the picture looks much better, and excluding the ITV channels, you get 5.1 audio.

People don't want "more and more", they want the quality in content and PQ that is currently lacking in some areas via VM.

Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35647237)

There seem to be only two things that people on here really want and there are good reasons for them:

Sky Atlantic, because for those who like critically acclaimed US drama, that's a massive source, which VM are lacking

HD channels, for the obvious reason that the picture looks much better, and excluding the ITV channels, you get 5.1 audio.

People don't want "more and more", they want the quality in content and PQ that is currently lacking in some areas via VM.

Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 35647224)

What i find Vince is this, there are loads and loads of channels on VM and Sky, most of which imo are total tosh, there are, granted, some really good channels from both companies, but a lot of people on here just seem to want more and more, i ask this question, where the heck do you guys get the time to watch all this TV? :scratch:

Originally Posted by JustaBloke (Post 35647248)

Absolutely bang on. This is another reason I'm a TiVo refusenik. Why in god's name would I want more TV suggested to me? What a barmy gadget!

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35647243)

The thread is what it is and most are happy with that.:)

Originally Posted by JustaBloke (Post 35647248)

Absolutely bang on. This is another reason I'm a TiVo refusenik. Why in god's name would I want more TV suggested to me? What a barmy gadget!

Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 35647224)

What i find Vince is this, there are loads and loads of channels on VM and Sky, most of which imo are total tosh, there are, granted, some really good channels from both companies, but a lot of people on here just seem to want more and more, i ask this question, where the heck do you guys get the time to watch all this TV? :scratch:

Originally Posted by jfman (Post 35647256)

Exactly, which is why there should be two.

Originally Posted by ocav (Post 35647109)

We haven't had the price rise letter yet however I am starting to price up Sky TV, the thing is, I'd have to keep VM broadband and I like my 120mb which is pretty pricey on its own!

Originally Posted by howardmicks (Post 35647293)

2 of my friends have done it kept xl phone and xl broadband £45.00 per month then go sky on half price deal £36.25 per month for that you get the best catch up services all sports and movie channels in glorious hd (that's all sports folk) and you can watch them all on the excellent sky go service which is light year ahead of that tv anywhere service we suffer and for a extra £5 you can download (watch when offline)and get catch up and box sets on sky go also so for £81.25 per month you have the best telly and broadband and if u really need your bt sports fix add £15 which makes it £96.25 still coming in cheaper than the VIP so called pack ;)

Only downside is no TiVo but is TiVo really worth a 6.8% or whatever it is prise rise

Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35647297)

You get a free 2 month trial of Sky go extra now bud , there are some codes floating about to get it at 6 months for £2.50p/m instead of £5p/m.

Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35647235)

Sony movies has appeared on my list as possible launch on VM.

MGMHD is to launch first quarter of 2014 not last week as i originally posted.

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35647308)

How reliable is this information, theone? The reason I ask is that MGMHD is most likely to launch at the same time as Sky Atlantic. If correct, it indicates to me that the launch date has been postponed yet again.

I only know about what was planned, but I have not heard anything about postponements (not that this means anything in itself). Unfortunately, launch dates are prone to change and it would be a shame indeed if we had to wait even longer for the one channel that is a glaring omission in VM's offering.

Originally Posted by howardmicks (Post 35647293)

2 of my friends have done it kept xl phone and xl broadband £45.00 per month then go sky on half price deal £36.25 per month for that you get the best catch up services all sports and movie channels in glorious hd (that's all sports folk) and you can watch them all on the excellent sky go service which is light year ahead of that tv anywhere service we suffer and for a extra £5 you can download (watch when offline)and get catch up and box sets on sky go also so for £81.25 per month you have the best telly and broadband and if u really need your bt sports fix add £15 which makes it £96.25 still coming in cheaper than the VIP so called pack ;)

Only downside is no TiVo but is TiVo really worth a 6.8% or whatever it is prise rise

Originally Posted by jagsman (Post 35647327)

So after he BBC HD channels, the only thing we definitely know to be "Coming soon" are the price rises, which in my case, amount to an increase of over 9%. They may have added a few extra channels since the previous rise, but 9% is a bit much.

Originally Posted by howardmicks (Post 35647312)

Only new channels coming now are bbc hd channels old boy before Xmas

Originally Posted by paultrademark (Post 35647337)

That's what I've heard too, and also that there is currently no planned Sky Channels to launch anytime soon.

Originally Posted by howardmicks (Post 35647332)

Cancel the tv side and go to sky and keep bb and phone with vm,if lots of customers do this just maybe vm will think twice about the price rise hike the year after ;)

Originally Posted by howardmicks (Post 35647347)

Yep heard same bud,bt sports and now Netflix deal lost any chance of sky channels coming soon I'm afraid :(

Originally Posted by howardmicks (Post 35647373)

No still love me TiVo bud and sticking with vm until end of contract now.but not sure after that mate

Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 35647379)

well prices are beyond a joke now mate

Originally Posted by martin201002 (Post 35647378)

Very anti vm at the moment on here.

Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 35647229)

I'm 28. I'm single. I live in my mums boxroom

Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35647235)

Sony movies has appeared on my list as possible launch on VM.

MGMHD is to launch first quarter of 2014 not last week as i originally posted.

Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35647314)

Same person who told me about SYFY , FOX dropping down a tier so very reliable.
Still nothing to say Atlantic wont launch this year though mate along with the other Sky channels , maybe MGMHD is launching later as vm will be able to do same as Sky and offer it as a standalone channel for £5p/m for those wanting it but not wanting the movie pack. I know a lot more changes are going to happen and more channels are moving tiers.

To add Netflix are going to go head to head with Sky for HBO content rights when the current Sky deal is up for renewal. I honestly don't know when the rights are up for renewal.

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35647435)

Thanks for info.

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July 2015.

http://www.theguardian.com/media/201...o-tv-catalogue

Originally Posted by martin201002 (Post 35647378)

Very anti vm at the moment on here.

Originally Posted by howardmicks (Post 35647393)

yer we are footing the cost of bt sports now bud :

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35647465)

That's nothing unusual from the same old reliable doomsayers.:):dig::waving:

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Still way way cheaper then the £15 on Sky Howard.

Originally Posted by MutleyF (Post 35647474)

Anyone care to speculate what the forthcoming Spotify offer could be ?

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35647465)

Still way way cheaper then the £15 on Sky Howard.

Originally Posted by MutleyF (Post 35647474)

Anyone care to speculate what the forthcoming Spotify offer could be ?

Originally Posted by MutleyF (Post 35647474)

Anyone care to speculate what the forthcoming Spotify offer could be ?

Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35647446)

Thanks mate , looks like 2015 could be a very interesting year for VOD as Netflix are going to take Sky on for movie rights too. I can see it being two tiers Netflix basic (older movies , tv shows) for £6p/m and Netflix premium as Netflix basic but with HBO and newer movies for about £9.99p/m.

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35647525)

Personally can't see HBO abandoning its distribution through traditional pay operators anytime soon , I also can't see it going alone with a streaming app considering HBO Nordic has such low subscriber figures.

Originally Posted by Doug P (Post 35647510)

The cost is not forced on anyone passingbat. The XL pack is full of variety but if you don't want it then downgrade.

I never watch lifestyle stuff but don't moan about those who do. Am pleased BT Sport is included and Virgin played a really good hand getting it.

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Originally Posted by ocav (Post 35647532)

There seems to be a glitch with Spotify, I added the 3 months free which was due to expire on 12/11/2013, still on Premium today and when I phoned up to ask about it he said that the system had applied a Lifetime premium subscription by mistake and they couldn't withdraw it.

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I can see where you are coming from but there are more Sky Subscribers in the UK than there are people who have access to the service. And over here around half a million want access to these shows.

If they were to launch themselves then they would probably have a linear channel as well. But they also love the Sky Atlantic withheld deal because everybody who doesn't have access "most likely" purchases them on DVD and. BluRay with all the money going to them.

However since Atlantic, piracy of HBO shows has increased and this means they may be looking to monotise the people who currently don't have access.

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35647551)

Virgin Media has added an new channel to 'Total Channels' last night but no new channel has not appeared on my list.

Originally Posted by thegrid (Post 35647514)

Morning everyone, hope you're all well. Not been here for a few weeks. Any news? :)

Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35647542)

You're failing to acknowledge the difference. The variety you speak about is fine; we all have channels we don't watch and those that we do, but these are non premium channels. BT sport is a premium channel that VM are forcing all XL users to pay for. Premium channels should be optional, paid for only by the ones who want to watch them; that is why they are called premium channels.

And why should I downgrade to avoid the cost of BT sports and in the process lose HD channels? Let people who want premium sport (or any other premium channel) pay for it as intended; as a premium service.

Originally Posted by ocav (Post 35647532)

There seems to be a glitch with Spotify, I added the 3 months free which was due to expire on 12/11/2013, still on Premium today and when I phoned up to ask about it he said that the system had applied a Lifetime premium subscription by mistake and they couldn't withdraw it.

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I can see where you are coming from but there are more Sky Subscribers in the UK than there are people who have access to the service. And over here around half a million want access to these shows.

If they were to launch themselves then they would probably have a linear channel as well. But they also love the Sky Atlantic withheld deal because everybody who doesn't have access "most likely" purchases them on DVD and. BluRay with all the money going to them.

However since Atlantic, piracy of HBO shows has increased and this means they may be looking to monotise the people who currently don't have access.

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35647551)

Virgin Media has added an new channel to 'Total Channels' last night but no new channel has not appeared on my list.

Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35647559)

We could see then HBO launch their own channel and launch a UK version of HBOGO. with Netflix getting secondary rights maybe.[COLOR="Silver"]

Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35647542)

You're failing to acknowledge the difference. The variety you speak about is fine; we all have channels we don't watch and those that we do, but these are non premium channels. BT sport is a premium channel that VM are forcing all XL users to pay for. Premium channels should be optional, paid for only by the ones who want to watch them; that is why they are called premium channels.

And why should I downgrade to avoid the cost of BT sports and in the process lose HD channels? Let people who want premium sport (or any other premium channel) pay for it as intended; as a premium service.

Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35647564)

The same argument could be applied by those who have XL for BT Sports but don't watch HD. HD on Virgin should be optional, paid for only by the ones who want to watch HD content.

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35647557)

Well I guess 'you pays your money and you takes your choice'.

This is how VM have decided to package it, so it is for us to decide what is best for us.

We can all quibble about channels on our packages that we don't ever watch and don't want to pay for, but we have only ever been able to choose between packages.

If Sky, BT, Talk Talk etc offer a more attractive package in the eyes of existing subscribers, then I suppose customers will make up their minds where they want to be and each provider will work out how to best pitch their offerings from the results of those customer choices.

I don't watch BT Sports, but you only need to look at the reaction when it became apparent that this would be part of the XL pack to realise that this was a good move for VM. I am happy with it because I think it makes VM a better proposition, and the more subscribers VM gets, the more money they make that will ultimately benefit us in terms of investment.

My only niggle is that I wanted Netflix to be part of the XL pack. That way, there would have been something for film/drama fans as well as sports fans.

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35647557)

My only niggle is that I wanted Netflix to be part of the XL pack. That way, there would have been something for film/drama fans as well as sports fans.

Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35647564)

The same argument could be applied by those who have XL for BT Sports but don't watch HD. HD on Virgin should be optional, paid for only by the ones who want to watch HD content.

Originally Posted by jfman (Post 35647240)

We have been redirected here but it isn't a coming soon thread. It's all baseless speculation.

Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35647542)

You're failing to acknowledge the difference. The variety you speak about is fine; we all have channels we don't watch and those that we do, but these are non premium channels. BT sport is a premium channel that VM are forcing all XL users to pay for. Premium channels should be optional, paid for only by the ones who want to watch them; that is why they are called premium channels.

And why should I downgrade to avoid the cost of BT sports and in the process lose HD channels? Let people who want premium sport (or any other premium channel) pay for it as intended; as a premium service.

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35647563)

I think we should also consider that if there was an HBO channel launched, it could have additional content that was not a product of HBO. People would pay a subscription for it if the quality was good enough.

Originally Posted by andy_m (Post 35647583)

Aren't HD channels premium? What you pay for with Sky you get bundled with Virgin.

Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35647564)

The same argument could be applied by those who have XL for BT Sports but don't watch HD. HD on Virgin should be optional, paid for only by the ones who want to watch HD content.

Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35647610)

See post No. 268.

Originally Posted by bamav (Post 35647613)

HD should be free to everyone - not included, or extra - just free. Jeez it's been around long enough now. I think the technology upgrades to create, broadcast and feed HD will have long been paid for. Sky are dictating this "HD costs extra" scenario and are thus ripping the @rse out of it to make money from literally nothing.

I still joke about Nicam stereo being free when it launched, but the reality was similar to HD.

If FTA channels can provide HD free - then why not the rest? And why are carriers such as Sky and VM getting away with charging to access them??

Down with this sort of thing...! :td:

Originally Posted by bamav (Post 35647613)

HD should be free to everyone - not included, or extra - just free. Jeez it's been around long enough now. I think the technology upgrades to create, broadcast and feed HD will have long been paid for. Sky are dictating this "HD costs extra" scenario and are thus ripping the @rse out of it to make money from literally nothing.

I still joke about Nicam stereo being free when it launched, but the reality was similar to HD.

If FTA channels can provide HD free - then why not the rest? And why are carriers such as Sky and VM getting away with charging to access them??

Down with this sort of thing...! :td:

Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35647559)

I wonder if that's DisneyHd?

Originally Posted by MutleyF (Post 35647474)

Anyone care to speculate what the forthcoming Spotify offer could be ?

Originally Posted by howardmicks (Post 35647312)

Only new channels coming now are bbc hd channels old boy before Xmas

Originally Posted by paultrademark (Post 35647337)

That's what I've heard too, and also that there is currently no planned Sky Channels to launch anytime soon.

Originally Posted by blue666666 (Post 35647725)

it from a good insider or bad insider ?

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35647726)

An very good one.

Originally Posted by Yawning (Post 35647755)

As no one has mentioned.

FOX+ now in L pack.

Originally Posted by zantarous (Post 35647742)

I have just been looking at my bill and it has been increasing in price for ages and I have been meaning to downgrade my TV pack. Can anyone remember the deal with Tivo cost, I got both of mine back when they first came out and I believe you were supposed to be only charged for one but I seem to have two TV charges. The bill doesn't really help when things are not broken down and itemised.

Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35647765)

It was £3 per account. So, I you had two Tivos, you only paid £3. I was on that deal as I got both Tivos as soon as Tivo was released, but my current price doesn't seem to reflect that; haven't a clue what I'm actually paying for my two Tivos now.

Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 35647627)

100% agree. some of the things $ky do in business are pretty bad but the whole charging for a HD version of a channel you already get is absolutely disgusting. HD has been out for years now. Will this charge remain forever? Will we forever have to pay tons more just purely for a clearer picture?? $ky literally try to squeeze everything they can out of people and the govt allows this.

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35647766)

To have a second TiVo in our household costs a extra £11.50.

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35647718)

I have just been given an new 'Do Not Post' order by one of my insiders.

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35647792)

(1) Does the 'Do Not Post' order cover new information you have received and

(2) Would you say it is information good enough to blow our socks off?

Just wondered whether we should get excited by this or consider it even more fluff.

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35647794)

:shrug::nono::redcard::tiptoe:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35647795)

So you have been told not to post it but you don't know what it is that you've been asked not to post?

Curiouser and curiouser.

I think it may be safe to hibernate :sleep:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35647799)

I have seen what is set to happen but is banned from posting info.

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35647799)

I have seen what is set to happen but is banned from posting info.

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35647805)

I know, but can you not just tell us whether it's new information that you didn't previously know that went with this ban? I'm sure no-one will be upset with a yes or no answer to that. You must stop being a tease!

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35647809)

It was new Information confirmed to me today.

Set to happen by 2014.

#waitandsee

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35647790)

Can I ask - how much is $ky putting their prices up?