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Same here. I did start to watch Hemlock Grove but I haven't finished it yet. Xmas viewing for me was a diet of Breaking Bad and Chuck, with the odd film thrown in - speaking of which, Olympus Has Fallen has been added to Netflix, its a decent action film, far better than the crap that is Die Hard 5.

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Hi,

After the six months who do you pay is it VM or Netflix?

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Netflix.

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What that fails to say is if you are on any loyalty discounts, you can't get it!

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If you already have a netflix account can you access it via Tivo?

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you can use Netflix via TIVO, just enter your logon details.

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That's correct, just log in with your details you use to normally get on Netflix :)
nicknewark beat me to it :)

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Watched both of these in last 2 weeks. Both good shows.

Need similar recommendations.

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House of Cards (2013) with Kevin Spacey is good.

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Just cancelled Netflix. Simply not me but understand many love it and that is great....

Happy viewing folks.....

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Its not for everyone, I didn't think it would suit me as we love watching movies, but decided to subscribe and to get rid of Sky Movies and save money in the process even though Sky shows more newer films.

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I'm enjoying what netflix has to offer for now. Particularly enjoying Sons of Anarchy and House of cards. I'll try some of the others when I have time.

I'd definitely keep if they could sort the profiles out on tivo. As things stand my kids can only use it when I'm around which isn't ideal.

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That is the only problem I have, need to keep a eye on what my 11 year is watching...whereas with the movies on Virgin he can't as I have locked with parent control, maybe Netflix will do this in the future who knows???

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You can do it now on Netflix via the settings on the website

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Finished Breaking Bad last night, will now watch Season 3 of Nurse Jackie (BBC2 had it up to Season 2 before it disappeared onto Sky Atlantic - http://www.theguardian.com/media/201...o-sky-atlantic) before moving onto either Orange Is..., Hemlock Grove or House of Cards... cannot decide which yet

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You can't use profiles on the tivo so what ever setting I apply to my profile applies to the tivo.

Even if the parental settings are set low the images of horror movies are still visible. It's good that the movies can't be viewed but it also means I have to keep changing the settings anytime I want to watch House of cards, etc.

It is a work around but it is a nuisance.

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I'd suggest you watch Orange and House of Cards before Hemlock, in any order as they are both excellent. Hemlock Grove while still good is easily the weakest of their series and is aimed more at a younger audience than the other 2.

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Netflix is pretty darn good after reviewing it over the christmas period. May subscribe for a further few months. If we'd got that in the XL package for no extra price i'd be quite tolerant of the further price increase in february. Just a shame its not included!

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You might find they have changed the back end software used to provide the service so they can offer multiple tiers and this one non hd-stream to one device for a dollar less tier is merely a test for that.

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A single user, SD only stream at a lower price might interest people who only watch Netflix while commuting to work etc. on their smart phone or low res tablet.

Netflix may also have in mind bundling it with some mobile phone plans like they do with music services such as Spotify?

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Totally agree. I've started watching OITNB and Lillehammer.

I've also watched all 3 seasons of Weeds, i had to get a DNS into my SmartTV so i can watch the rest of it.

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What sets it apart from the rest for me is 1080p streaming with 5.1 audio. Do Lovefilm do 5.1 audio ?

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Not generally. I think I saw something that said they were introducing it on one specific device, though memory is a bit hazy as it was a while ago that I saw it.

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I agree! There's more decent material on Netflix than all the Sky channels put together (sport excluded of course)!

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I agree. I think Netflix are in a stronger position than Sky channels in terms of airing new content, with the possible exception of Sky Atalantic (not in my eyes though). IMHO Netflix do not need to fill time slots on various channels, whereas Sky do. As such I think the Sky channels have to rubber stamp some pretty poor series just to fill the time slots and also try and chase ratings. Whilst Netflix will also want new content, I think they can be considerably more choosy with the new content they will help to fund as they have no time slots to fill. They have no real need to worry about subscriptions (viewing figures) because they have already built up a strong fanbase already and have garnered considerable profits. The result is Netflix (with its movie selection and considerable on demand content) will continue to grow stronger and stronger, whilst Sky will struggle with acquiring decent new content and rely more and more on movies and sports - both of which will come under considerable pressure from the next round of bidding wars.

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gonna look into this at weekend. any 1 know if this apply's to ppl, that work for VM & already get reduction ?? or is loyalty discount something diff all together ??

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Hopefully the relationship Netflix has with AMC will grow in future and perhaps other channels will get on board. Getting Breaking Bad and The Killing on Netflix hours after they aired in the US last year was great, no need to pirate them at all then :p: This year we have the BB spin-off Better Call Saul in the same way so the relationship is still there and they couldn't have chosen a better channel to get in bed with. AMC are right up there with HBO these days for dramas IMO.

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Sky has already stated their aim is to become less and less reliant on having to acquire content , they've pledged to increase spending on homegrown content to £600 million a year by the end of this year they've also created content with numerous worldwide broadcasters such as Canal + , Cinemax (HBO) , Showtime and NBC.

In September 2013 eight of its top ten shows were made and commissioned by Sky , clearly content is subjective however I think they'll continue along this path of having a mix of homegrown content along with US acquisitions.

Netflix will continue with its original content whilst innovating with its technology in my opinion.

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I think Dracula was one of their latest series, what a load of rubbish.

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Any idea what those 10 shows are, and which are the 8 commissioned by Sky?

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In your opinion, my daughters and wife love it. ;)

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I actually wasn't that keen myself but as I said all content is subjective. There's many on here watch the likes of EastEnders , Big Brother , I'm a celebrity personally I couldn't think of anything worse but in a multichannel world that's the beauty of choice.
All available on the Sky Views website.
Thanks that proves my original point content is subjective.

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Indeed it is as l cannot believe the rubbish some people watch :dig::tiptoe: but if we all had the same tastes then life would be very boring.

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Just started watching The Riches :p:

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You should work for Sky's media relations.;)

Just because Sky are aiming to make it's own content, does not mean it will be any better than some of the guff (imo) they are churning out now. It may well be high quality content that is made in the future, but I simply do not see it. Netflix may also produce complete dross in future.

My point was that Netflix can be more selective of what is perceived as better content in future than Sky because they do not have fill schedules on various channels. Netflix can wait for a long time before accepting a new script/program, Sky will have to a pick the best of a bad bunch because they have to fill schedules and generate money through advertising revenues.

Also, it really does not matter who Sky produce content with, it is not a guarantee of quality. They could work with the original producers/writers/directors of The Killing to get a British remake, does not mean it will be any good.

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Yeah; that's the very first site I look at, each and every day ;)

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They couldn't afford me ;)
You did ask it was all over the web news sites the other month with a link to the source.

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Details on the Scifi series the Wachowski brothers are making for Netflix are coming out now http://www.tvrage.com/news/8917/deta...riginal-sense8

Should be good with them and the guy who made Babylon 5 behind it.

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The way things are going, Sky had to consider a different way of operating in the future. Having been slow to get off the ground with VOD, it now realises that this is the way to go.

But they want also to keep their channels going for as long as possible, and with the increasing competition for US content, they made the right call in deciding to commission their own material.

If they can come up with good cutting edge dramas like Strike Back, things will definitely improve, but as you say, they will still have to fill in hours of scheduling, which will continue to be filled with dross because it's cheap.

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The main reason so many hours are filled with dross is because there is a limited amount of 'good stuff' out there.

As you remarked earlier, there are more channels competing for the good US Network TV dramas and so it is spread thinly between all those channels.

It doesn't surprise or bother me that each channel only has two or three good shows; I just watch those and don't bother about what they show along side them.

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Didn't Sky work with Cinemax on the fantastic series of Strikeback?

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I watched a few of those when it first aired and then forgot to record, i didn't bother trying to find the episode(s) i missed as i thought it tailed off rather quickly. It didn't seem to know where it was going.

IMO of course ;)

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Why fill numerous channels with dross though when they could offer a high quality service (like netflix) at a fraction of the cost? Exclusive sports and movie rights are a different ballgame and should, unfortunately, be charged at a rate punters are willing to pay.

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Hi guys, new member to this community here.
Just thought I'd let you all know that the netflix free 6 months offer is now included with the Essential collection. Previously, I believe it was only the XL package. I only found this out after seeing an advert in the Central region. On phoning virgin today, bizarrely the adding packages dept knew nothing about this??? But they thanked me profusely for letting them know...... Yea right. :dozey:

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According to the web site they all include it now even the cheapest one; the 'Starter Collection'.

I do wonder if they are shooting themselves in the foot giving netflix away. It's bound to make many question whether their actual TV package is worth it, especially the cheapest one considering you don't get Sky1, Syfy etc on it.

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...but Virgin Media are giving absolutely nothing away!!

They are, in fact, helping Netflix market their product.

No direct revenue comes to Virgin Media, although they may get some remuneration for their marketing activity.

All customers of Netflix pay Netflix directly for the service.

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I didn't mean that Virgin were paying for Netflix. Perhaps i just worded it wrong and should have used the word include... pedant :p::D

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OK since you've called me pedantic.

No Virgin Media Collection includes Netflix either.

What you do get is a code which allows you 6 further months free use of Netflix.

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You do realise that the point i was making in the post was that they are introducing customers to a service that many will find more appealing than their own? I neither mentioned nor implied anything about it costing Virgin anything or the manner it's passed to the customer so i have no idea why you are focusing on that.

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Well, exactly. Sky should have been making or commissioning good dramas of its own rather than relying on US imports. It has just gone for the cheap and cheerful option.

It is certainly curious that a subscription channel like Sky 1 is of inferior quality to a free commercial channel like ITV1. They should be using their subscription and advertising revenues to improve the quality of their programming, which would in turn attract more customers.

There will come a point at which subscribers will decide to ditch Sky altogether if they don't rise to the challenge of the likes of Netflix and provide viewers with a reason to continue to pay all this money to them, which currently is for very little.

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Although we pay directly for Netflix, VM must have an arrangement whereby they earn a fee from making the service available on the platform.

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Netflix is available to people who want to use it by other means, so I don't think VM are shooting themselves in the foot. What they are doing is bringing together a huge range of content in a way that helps customers by not having to buy additional equipment to view it.

I don't think VM will lose too much sleep if customer responses lead them to rely less on the anti-competitive practices of Sky. I don't think VM even make a profit from providing access to Sky Movies!

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I can only think of a couple of shows I watch on ITV, and one of those is a US import (The Americans)

I can think of more on Sky channels including the Black List, Nikita, Arrow and presumably the new Event series of 24 will end up on Sky... Therefore I don't agree with your opinion on Sky being inferior to ITV.

Like I said previously, there are only a few good shows on every channel, so it's wrong to expect good stuff all the time.

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You are never going to be offered a channel with all the good stuff on it as it would be to costly to the providers and not in the PAY TV companies interests. It is better for the PAY TV companies interests to have them spread around therefore encouraging people to go for bigger packages to try and cover the greatest range of choice.

There are four adults and a 5 year old in my house and we all have diversified tastes in the type of programs we want to watch. I have never been able to get all those channels in a smaller package and had to have XL at VM and now EE+ at Sky just to keep the natives quiet.

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Yes, I agree, but that model is no longer relevant with 'On Demand' becoming the prevailing method of viewing. I really don't understand why people still watch all their programmes 'live' from the TV channels and sit through all those adverts! However, I think it's beginning to dawn on more and more people that they are wasting their lives watching 15 - 18 minutes of ads every hour.

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You're forgetting the 'Tweet Brigade' who have to watch things live to tweet their opinion on the show every 10 seconds! :rolleyes: :D

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"Becoming the prevailing method" is probably correct but I will take any odds that the majority of people still watch the majority of their TV live, even those with Pay TV.

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I don't disagree with you but I think the number of people prepared to waste their time in this way is reducing all the time. The figures for on demand viewing over the years reveals that this is the case.

There will come a point when the broadcasting of so many linear channels is no longer unviable.

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Which is why they should produce more of their own (better quality) material. We need more dramas and shows and less reality TV.

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I agree, but Sky 1 is 85% dross and only 15% is worth watching, and I'm probably being generous at that. I don't think it is beyond the wit of Skyman to balance it out a bit better.

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I appreciate it's horses for courses but there are more original dramas on ITV now and they are quite good.

Can you imagine Sky commissioning a programme like Downton Abbey for example? No, they just rely on American programming and reality shows for the most part. I just think they are selling themselves short - they could do much better than this.

I only hope their new strategy addresses these shortcomings.

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had sky movies from September just switched it off now joined netflix really like it !

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Much better value, in my opinion. I currently subscribe to both, but if Netflix take some of the exclusive deals away from Sky over the coming few years, I might review my subscription to Sky Movies.

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Indeed l think quite a few are entertaining the same type of thinking OB.

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I've got a couple ofrecorded films I want to watch so I've set myself the deadline of next weekend then it's bye bye Sky Movies.

There's tons of stuff I want to watch on netflix so I'd really need 30 hours in each day to justify continuing Sky Movies too.

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sky movies via sky or virgin is to expensive so i view it through now tv and im still unsure why the movies are so cheap on Now tv. Not that I am complaining. I thought about netflix but it seems they dont have access to the newer movies or am I wrong in thinking that?

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Yeah because ITV would never have their TV schedules took over by reality TV would they :D

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Too many of those blighters on TV for my liking but alas l must be in the minority.:D

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I think reality tv is slowly dying to be honest. X factor and big brother would dominate proceedings a few years back. Now it's not the case. I think it'll still slowly die a slow death for a few more years and then go missing in a few years.

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Personally i think that's just people being bored with those particular shows, Simon Cowel has been pumping out the same show for 13 years beginning with Pop Idol. Big Brother, it was inevitable that people would eventually get bored of watching a bunch of twits lie around a house.

Other shows seem to still be pulling the viewers in, The Voice had 8.4 million the other night, I'm a celebrity and Britain's got Talent still get massive viewing figures etc.

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I think that Reality TV has been slowly dying since the late 90s.. In the late 90s, it was difficult to turn on the TV during prime time without finding at least one channel showing a programme where a film crew followed a few vets, holiday reps, the staff of a driving school, airport or hospital around. Thankfully, that sort of programme has largely died out (at least on the terrestrial channels, the smaller channels still have a fair few on).

I say it's dying, rather than changing because back in the late 90s it was very difficult to find a terrestrial channel at prime time that was *not* showing some sort of reality show. At least now it's limited to a few daytime TV shows and a couple of hours of "talent shows" on a Saturday night. Usually consisting of a couple of shows where 3 or 4 people watch other people sing/dance/do whatever, often making (sometimes rude) comments on them, then the hosts excitedly ask the viewer to phone in to "save" one of the the contestants (see The Voice, Fame Academy, Strictly Come Dancing, Dancing on Ice and almost *anything* involving Simon Cowell) for evidence of this.

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I'd say reality TV has evolved into a strange hybrid of reality and staged reality which is keeping the genre as popular as ever. Shows like Come Dine With Me, The Only Way Is Essex, Made In Chelsea, Geordie Shore, Keeping Up With The Kardashians, My Big Fat Gypsy Wedding, Ramsays Kitchen Nightmares and Peter Andre My Life have loyal followers and score reasonable viewing figures. Not my cup of tea but if you scan through the EPG it's littered with these types of shows.

I agree the viewing figures aren't as dominant as maybe 10 or 15 years ago however since then channel choice has tripled, more homes have a PVR for time-shifted viewing, TV on demand has taken off and online viewing is coming into it's own. The viewing public can now watch what they want, when they want, which wasn't always the case in the late 90's.

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And that is the great thing as we record most of our favourite programmes and watch them at a suitable time that suits us and our family.:)

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Not sure if this question has been asked before but everytime I go to watch Netflix it comes up as being locked and I have to press the OK button and then put my PIN number in, even though I have the parental lock off so that for other viewing on my TIVO box I don't have to put the PIN in. Am I doing something wrong or is this just how it works? On my smart TV I don't have to do anything :confused:

Lyn

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It's the same with me Lyn, everytime i want to watch something on Netflix i have to put in my PIN.

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Have you checked that Netflix is specifically unlocked in parental controls? There is a separate entry for Netflix in apps and games and I think when Netflix was added it may have defaulted to locked. May be worth a check?

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Cheers, will have a look, tbh it doesn't really bother me too much, but if it can be disabled then good enough.

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You can remove the need for the PIN in the TiVo's Parental Control Settings. It used to drive me mad until I found that it could be turned off.

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Tomorrow is their quarterly earnings report. No doubt the increase will be huge again.

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Netflix grows subscriptions in US as pay-TV declines.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-25825125

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Thanks for that, yes I did eventually find it, but didn't realise it would be under a different lot of settings. It was doing my head in :tu:

Lyn

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I'm not surprised you don't consider Sky Movies good value at £19.50 a month with a further £7 if you want HD :shocked:

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I was considering Sky Movies till I saw the total price, put me off the idea so I then took out a Netflix subscription.

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When our contract ends we will be getting rid of Sky Movies and will continue with the Netflix offering as it gives us much better bang for our buck.

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Don't miss SKY Movies after a couple of weeks of removing this package, have enough films to see on both LoveFilm.com disk rentals and Netflix!

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I use the Now TV movie pass at £8.99 , I also have Netflix and whilst its originals and tv shows are pretty good the movies on the UK service are generally old hat.

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I agree.

I've got my Smart TV set to UK Netflix, my Nintendo Wii set to American Netflix and my Smart Blu-ray player set to Canadian Netflix. Between the 3 I've got access to an incredible amount of new movies and TV shows all through my living room TV.

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Unless you are on VIP, Sky Movies can be cancelled any time after 30 days.

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Still missing out on a lot mate loads of new movies on Netflix Brazil and Mexico aswell as Norway. I found the best method was to use a paid smart dns such as unblock-us and just change the region as desired.
Netflix uk is on the Tivo box and my ps3 runs all the other Netflix regions.
I use Unotelly so for me it's just a simple case of using the app on my phone and changing the region.

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Unblock-US has an app but it's 99p.

https://itunes.apple.com/gb/app/unbl...689783500?mt=8

It might be worth getting. I don't think it's an official app but Unblock-US do inform people about the app on Twitter.

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I use a free application. I mentioned it on here once and about a days worth of comments got deleted :D Probably best we leave it at that. I don't think there is any appetite, from the site owners, for internet region circumvention to be explained or promoted.

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Free on Android strange why it costs on itunes.

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Apple charge a yearly fee to be on the App Store regardless of the price of your apps (I believe about £80) whereas for Google Play its only a £25 set up fee.

Apple App Devs use paid apps to fund their yearly fee.

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I must be thick as I downloaded this app onto my iPad but when I open it it asks for my email address and then I have to click on "Check Status" and it keeps saying "Error Subscription Not Active" :confused:

Lyn

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Unblock-Us requires a subscription of a few quid a month. You need to go to their site and set it up.

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Thanks for that :)

Lyn

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You can trial unblockus free for 7 days without entering credit card details (just an email address). It's 5.99 Canadian Dollars p/m so around £3 p/m

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a VPN would offer better value for money imo

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It depends.

VPNs (as I understand it) can reduce your broadband speed as it goes via their servers and BB links.

Unblockus, is a smart DNS service rather than a traditional VPN and does not reduce your broadband speed.

And at £3 p/m, unblockus is hardly bad value IMHO.

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Plus with Unblock-Us you can switch between the various Netflix regions at the press of a button. You can't do that with a VPN.

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privateinternetaccess has not slowed mine down and its £3 a month also if you buy a year block :)

from a google search of the name it appear unblock us is a vpn anyway :)

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It is but it differs in the respect that it will only work with sites that they make it work with; I guess that's part of the Smart DNS aspect of it? One of their selling points is that it doesn't affect bandwidth, whereas some 'standard' VPN's do.

For some people, the limited number of sites that it works with may not suit them compared to a standard VPN, but it covers the ones I'm interested in and it has been completely reliable.

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A holiday question, we have a Netflix UK sub, can this be used in France when on hoilday?
Place we are staying at has wifi.

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You can use it anywhere. I have a mate in Australia who occasionally logs into mine to watch their exclusives like House of Cards. Their only limit is how many devices can be logged in at the exact same time.