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Kushan 10-01-2014 08:32
Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels
 
Or it's part of an ongoing rollout.

Martin_D 22-01-2014 19:26
Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels
 
Just had a look at http://keepup.virginmedia.com/speedupgrade for the 152Mb upgrade.

And it looks like we will get the upgrade in 2015 :(

-----------------
We’re upgrading the network in your area and your speed boost will be ready between August 2014 and January 2015. You don’t need to do a thing and we’ll contact you as soon as it’s ready.

Jumping 22-01-2014 20:35
Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels
 
This is what it say on the first page about the upgrade.

"Right now you have our up to 120Mb broadband. That's really fast, but between August and January 2014 you'll be able to supercharge your speed to up to 152Mb broadband at no extra monthly cost. We'll email you when it's ready."

On the page you linked its - "We’re upgrading the network in your area and your speed boost will be ready between August 2014 and January 2015"

Nice to see Uddingston late as always....

Martin_D 22-01-2014 20:57
Uddingston
 
It's just very frustrating that we are always last to get upgrades.

And are you on 64QAM yet. ?

Kushan 23-01-2014 08:20
Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels
 
Still August - January for me.

Rabb 23-01-2014 08:37
Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels
 
Quote:
Nice to see Uddingston late as always
always has been this way for as long as can remember now:mad::mad:

General Maximus 23-01-2014 08:59
Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels
 
no no, you must be mistaken. You need to read the latest news article on the main page titled "152MB is coming soon, Tweets Virgin Media" :dozey:

Martin_D 23-01-2014 09:15
Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels
 
They need to stop boosting broadband speeds and spend the money on the infrastructure. Uddingston falling apart

Attachment 25159
This phone is 7 years old. It is 100 times as bad now

Kushan 23-01-2014 09:34
Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels
 
Is that a VM Cab?

Martin_D 23-01-2014 09:38
Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kushan (Post 35665257)
Is that a VM Cab?
Yes i have seen virgin media working at it.

Jumping 23-01-2014 18:18
Re: Uddingston
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Martin Dee 11 (Post 35665146)
It's just very frustrating that we are always last to get upgrades.

And are you on 64QAM yet. ?
Nope still no changes on that front.

Code:
         
US-1        US-2        US-3        US-4
Channel Type        2.0        2.0        N/A        N/A
Channel ID        5        4        N/A        N/A
Frequency (Hz)        31000000 Hz        37600000 Hz        N/A        N/A
Ranging Status        Success        Success        N/A        N/A
Modulation        QAM16        QAM16        N/A        N/A
Symbol Rate (Sym/sec)        5120000        5120000        N/A        N/A
Mini-Slot Size        128        128        N/A        N/A
Power Level (dBmV)        44.0 dBmV        44.8 dBmV        N/A        N/A
T1 Timeouts        0        0        N/A        N/A
T2 Timeouts        0        0        N/A        N/A
T3 Timeouts        1        1        N/A        N/A
T4 Timeouts        0        0        N/A        N/A
You still on 64?

Gstevie 23-01-2014 23:34
Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels
 
I'm still on QAM16 too (cpc3-uddi24). Not surprised to see the date shifted for the speed boost. Must have happened within the last few days. I checked maybe Monday I think and it was showing June - September 2014, now it's August - January 2015. Still remember the good old days of Telewest when Uddingston was 1st for all the upgrades. We're paying for that now I suppose!!

General Maximus 24-01-2014 08:38
Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels
 
what a joke, I am the same. It was bad enough that it was July-December and now they have put it back to August-January and they havent even started yet. The best bit is this:



When will the broadband speed upgrades take place?
We’re beginning our upgrade work at the beginning of 2014 and anticipate that it will take 12 months......



Who wants to bet it spills into mid 2015? They haven't managed to cmplete any previous upgrades with 12 months so why should this be any different.

Kushan 24-01-2014 08:43
Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels
 
To be fair, how many of us seriously care about the speed upgrades? If you're on 30 or 60 I suppose it's a nice jump, but those of us on 120 aren't really going to see a big leap.

I'd much prefer they concentrated on bringing back the 10:1 upload:download ratio, THEN did the download speed increases (keeping them 10:1).

General Maximus 24-01-2014 09:01
Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kushan (Post 35665514)
I'd much prefer they concentrated on bringing back the 10:1 upload:download ratio, THEN did the download speed increases (keeping them 10:1).
and that is exactly what they should do. I can't remember what the speed increases were supposed to be (50/100/152) but you can't tell me people who are currently 60/3 are going to be uplifted to 100/3. I know 50mbits originall started out as 50/1.75 and 100/3 is just doubling it but it would seriously be taking the pee.

Kushan 24-01-2014 10:00
Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by General Maximus (Post 35665519)
and that is exactly what they should do. I can't remember what the speed increases were supposed to be (50/100/152) but you can't tell me people who are currently 60/3 are going to be uplifted to 100/3. I know 50mbits originall started out as 50/1.75 and 100/3 is just doubling it but it would seriously be taking the pee.
I completely agree. The thing that gives me hope is that we've observed them working on the upstream in several areas now. We've seen quite a few people on QAM64 (And one on QAM32?), I think everyone is on 2 US channels now (With an indication that there may be 3 or 4 coming) and we've now caught them using higher frequencies as well. Hopefully they're anticipating the 10:1 uplift and not just trying to add capacity to catch up with congestion.

Martin_D 24-01-2014 13:13
Re: Uddingston
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jumping (Post 35665427)
Nope still no changes on that front.

Code:
         
US-1        US-2        US-3        US-4
Channel Type        2.0        2.0        N/A        N/A
Channel ID        5        4        N/A        N/A
Frequency (Hz)        31000000 Hz        37600000 Hz        N/A        N/A
Ranging Status        Success        Success        N/A        N/A
Modulation        QAM16        QAM16        N/A        N/A
Symbol Rate (Sym/sec)        5120000        5120000        N/A        N/A
Mini-Slot Size        128        128        N/A        N/A
Power Level (dBmV)        44.0 dBmV        44.8 dBmV        N/A        N/A
T1 Timeouts        0        0        N/A        N/A
T2 Timeouts        0        0        N/A        N/A
T3 Timeouts        1        1        N/A        N/A
T4 Timeouts        0        0        N/A        N/A
You still on 64?
Yes am still on 64QAM. But my Downstream is slowing down

Attachment 25161

Attachment 25162

qasdfdsaq 24-01-2014 14:11
Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels
 
I'd care more about them bringing in 4:1 and ditching STM to catch up with BT

Kushan 24-01-2014 14:39
Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels
 
That dip on the 20th looks like STM to me. It's almost too coincidental.

Gstevie 31-01-2014 13:38
Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kushan (Post 35665514)
To be fair, how many of us seriously care about the speed upgrades? If you're on 30 or 60 I suppose it's a nice jump, but those of us on 120 aren't really going to see a big leap.

I'd much prefer they concentrated on bringing back the 10:1 upload:download ratio, THEN did the download speed increases (keeping them 10:1).
Totally agree, this boost is nothing special to write home about. Personally would rather see them deal with what appears to be their major congestion issues over the network. Maybe then we could ditch STM and I'd be more than happy to stay on 120. At the moment I get full speeds from it and I honestly don't "need" any more. Just seems petty of them to move to a "we are x times faster than y company". Focus on making that speed more reliable for all your customers maybe then more would stay.

qasdfdsaq 31-01-2014 19:28
Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels
 
They've already dealt with a lot of congestion issues tbh, along with the speed increases.

Gstevie 31-01-2014 19:47
Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq (Post 35667825)
They've already dealt with a lot of congestion issues tbh, along with the speed increases.
I take from the amount of complaints that still go on that they still have a ways to go before saying task done with that one. Did Ofcom not post a few months a go about congestion still being a problem on Virgin Media?

Nedkelly 31-01-2014 22:32
Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels
 
One of the biggest problems is the noise on certain parts of the network . As you go up in Qam the tolerance to noise decreases .To release a node / area it has to be at a certain stage for so long then it can be released . A lot of this is caused by loose connectors in the house and diy installs :)

Kushan 01-02-2014 13:16
Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gstevie (Post 35667835)
I take from the amount of complaints that still go on that they still have a ways to go before saying task done with that one. Did Ofcom not post a few months a go about congestion still being a problem on Virgin Media?
I don't think anyone's going to claim that Virgin's network is perfect. There's definitely still plenty of congestion, but it has improved greatly over the last couple of years. Still a long way to go, but they're getting there.

qasdfdsaq 01-02-2014 17:38
Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels
 
Virgin's network is perfect.

Gstevie 07-02-2014 01:03
Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by heero_yuy (Post 35668109)
Please try to stay calm. Medics and restraint specialists are on their way.:D
You win the internet.

Martin_D 12-02-2014 18:06
Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels
 
Getting a little bit of packet loss today

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...8318c2568.html


Tracing route to www.bbc.net.uk [212.58.246.90]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms router.asus.com [192.168.1.1]
2 8 ms 8 ms 8 ms 10.139.164.1
3 7 ms 20 ms 11 ms uddi-geam-1b-ge925.network.virginmedia.net [62.2
52.47.253]
4 8 ms 8 ms 7 ms uddi-core-2b-ae12-0.network.virginmedia.net [80.
3.16.141]
5 14 ms 15 ms 13 ms manc-bb-1d-ae7-0.network.virginmedia.net [62.253
.175.126]
6 * * * Request timed out.
7 * * * Request timed out.
8 20 ms 20 ms 30 ms 212.58.239.249
9 * * * Request timed out.
10 20 ms 19 ms 22 ms ae0.er01.cwwtf.bbc.co.uk [132.185.254.93]
11 21 ms 21 ms 22 ms 132.185.255.165
12 20 ms 20 ms 20 ms bbc-vip011.cwwtf.bbc.co.uk [212.58.246.90]

DABhand 16-02-2014 01:30
Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels
 
Don't even get me started on the Uddingston UBR >.<

Martin_D 22-02-2014 06:39
Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels
 
lost broadband for about 10 mins last nite. now got a new ip but why did it take so long to change ip address

Host: cpc66233-uddi22-2-0-cust***.**-*.cable.virginmedia.com

General Maximus 22-02-2014 08:13
Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels
 
the fact that you that have changed ip address means it wasn't a simple renewal and maybe they were doing some upgrade works and moved you on to a different line card.

horseman 24-02-2014 10:57
Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Martin Dee 11 (Post 35674606)
lost broadband for about 10 mins last nite. now got a new ip but why did it take so long to change ip address

Host: cpc66233-uddi22-2-0-cust***.**-*.cable.virginmedia.com
Probably because all CM's on your reseg'd node (and/or a line card swap/reseat/reboot) then have to re-register. With exponential back-offs that can be some delay for some some users.....

Martin_D 28-02-2014 09:24
Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels
 
152Mb broadband available now in (Uddingston UBR)

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2014/02/2.png

Kushan 28-02-2014 10:33
Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels
 
Very nice! I take it the upload is still 12Meg? Chance of a screeny of your config?

Martin_D 28-02-2014 12:00
Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels
 
Attachment 25250

General Maximus 28-02-2014 12:14
Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels
 
are you on 3 upstreams?

Martin_D 28-02-2014 12:31
Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels
 
No 2

Upstream
US-1 US-2 US-3 US-4
Channel Type 2.0 N/A N/A 2.0
Channel ID 1 N/A N/A 2
Frequency (Hz) 37600000 N/A N/A 31000000
Ranging Status Success Other Other Success
Modulation 64QAM N/A N/A 64QAM
Symbol Rate (Sym/sec) 5120000 N/A N/A 5120000
Mini-Slot Size 4 N/A N/A 4
Power Level (dBmV) 47.50 N/A N/A 47.50
T1 Timeouts 0 0 0 0
T2 Timeouts 0 0 0 0
T3 Timeouts 0 0 0 0
T4 Timeouts 0 0 0 0

General Maximus 28-02-2014 12:44
Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels
 
Interesting that they have decided to go down the 64qam route rather than bonding a 3rd upstream channel

Gstevie 28-02-2014 17:09
Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Martin Dee 11 (Post 35676312)
152Mb broadband available now in (Uddingston UBR)

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2014/02/2.png
How did it get activated? Did u call or did it just appear?

Jumping 28-02-2014 19:08
Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels
 
What did the 150mbit coming soon say for your area? Mine is July to Jan (15)

Martin_D 28-02-2014 21:51
Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jumping (Post 35676539)
What did the 150mbit coming soon say for your area? Mine is July to Jan (15)
Just give them a phone. :)

ianch99 28-02-2014 22:46
Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by General Maximus (Post 35676373)
Interesting that they have decided to go down the 64qam route rather than bonding a 3rd upstream channel
I have just upgraded to 152/12 and have these Upstream channels:

Code:
Upstream          US-1        US-2        US-3        US-4
Channel Type        2.0        2.0        N/A        N/A
Channel ID        1        4        N/A        N/A
Frequency (Hz)        46200000 Hz        25800000 Hz        N/A        N/A
Ranging Status        Success        Success        N/A        N/A
Modulation        QAM32        QAM16        N/A        N/A
Symbol Rate (Sym/sec)        5120000        5120000        N/A        N/A
Mini-Slot Size        128        128        N/A        N/A
Power Level (dBmV)        33.3 dBmV        34.8 dBmV        N/A        N/A
T1 Timeouts        0        0        N/A        N/A
T2 Timeouts        0        0        N/A        N/A
T3 Timeouts        57        57        N/A        N/A
T4 Timeouts        0        0        N/A        N/A

Primary Upstream Service Flow SFID        29640
Max Traffic Rate        12600000 bps
Max Traffic Burst        16320 bytes
Min Traffic Rate        0 bps
Max Concatenated Burst        16320 bps
Scheduling Type        BestEffort
Should I power cycle the shub1 (modem)?

qasdfdsaq 01-03-2014 21:08
Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels
 
Give 'em another couple years and they might even catch up with the upload speed BT were giving me in 2012...

craigj2k12 03-03-2014 00:14
Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq (Post 35676915)
Give 'em another couple years and they might announce that they are going tocatch up with the upload speed BT were giving me in 2012 and another 3 years to implement it
Corrections added

Gstevie 03-03-2014 11:23
Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels
 
Got mine today! :-D

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2014/03/67.png

---------- Post added at 11:23 ---------- Previous post was at 11:17 ----------

My connection is still on 16QAM on 2 upstream channels too.

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2014/03/57.jpg https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2014/03/58.jpg https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2014/03/59.jpg

Ignitionnet 06-03-2014 17:24
Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by General Maximus (Post 35676373)
Interesting that they have decided to go down the 64qam route rather than bonding a 3rd upstream channel
Adding a 3rd channel lowers the maximum transmit power using 16QAM to 52dBmV, so you lose both 2dB of SNR and modems that were marginal are now at maximum transmit.

Running at 64QAM over 2 channels maximum transmit power is 54dBmV, and in addition VM can use dynamic upstream modulation, so despite 64QAM requiring a better SNR than 16QAM (27dB vs 21dB after error correction, etc) if the cable is too noisy it can drop down to 32QAM or 16QAM as required.

Can't make allowances for modems that are too attenuated, and indeed a way to raise SNR on the upstream is to apply attenuation. When ntl moved to 16QAM part of the process in at least some cases was to apply 3dB additional attenuation to upstreams, making modems transmit 3dB higher to hit the target power and increasing SNR by 3dB in a stroke.

Once the networks have been properly realigned so no modems are in the danger zone 3rd and 4th channels will appear, possibly together in some cases as the power limits for 4 upstreams are exactly the same as for 3.

General Maximus 06-03-2014 18:02
Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels
 
good to know. I think upstream is going to be the next big thing people start flapping about because BT are making a big thing of it and if VM leave everyone at 12mbits even after the upgrades take place it isnt going to look good.

Ignitionnet 06-03-2014 18:19
Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by General Maximus (Post 35678314)
good to know. I think upstream is going to be the next big thing people start flapping about because BT are making a big thing of it and if VM leave everyone at 12mbits even after the upgrades take place it isnt going to look good.
*Whistles innocently*

WiFi is rubbish for downloads, but...

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2014/03/53.png

Martin_D 06-03-2014 18:23
Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels
 
My ac router is in now just need to upgrade my pc to usb 3.0

Attachment 25266

qasdfdsaq 06-03-2014 18:32
Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ignitionnet (Post 35678317)
*Whistles innocently*

WiFi is rubbish for downloads, but...

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2014/03/53.png
Pah, my best result on WiFi:

http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/1757714849

Jumping 06-03-2014 18:43
Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Martin Dee 11 (Post 35678321)
My ac router is in now just need to upgrade my pc to usb 3.0

Attachment 25266
Nice is it much better different to the 66u?

Martin_D 07-03-2014 12:38
Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels
 
High Utilisation For Me :(

F002847996 No Fix date yet

Attachment 25271

Ignitionnet 07-03-2014 12:47
Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels
 
Those all seem fine, I guess it needs the more granular hourly graphs to show. Evidently not that bad!

Martin_D 07-03-2014 12:57
Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ignitionnet (Post 35678472)
Those all seem fine, I guess it needs the more granular hourly graphs to show. Evidently not that bad!
Fix time is currently set at: 12th March 15.00


Attachment 25273

Top speed

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2014/03/47.png

Code:
Downstream
        DS-1        DS-2        DS-3        DS-4        DS-5        DS-6        DS-7        DS-8
Frequency (Hz)        299000000        267000000        275000000        283000000        291000000        307000000        315000000        323000000
Lock Status(QAM Lock/FEC Sync/MPEG Lock)        Locked        Locked        Locked        Locked        Locked        Locked        Locked        Locked
Channel ID        85        81        82        83        84        86        87        88
Modulation        256QAM        256QAM        256QAM        256QAM        256QAM        256QAM        256QAM        256QAM
Symbol Rate (Msym/sec)        6.952000        6.952000        6.952000        6.952000        6.952000        6.952000        6.952000        6.952000
Interleave Depth        I=12
J=17        I=12
J=17        I=12
J=17        I=12
J=17        I=12
J=17        I=12
J=17        I=12
J=17        I=12
J=17
Power Level (dBmV)        -0.52        -0.44        -0.51        -0.47        -0.47        0.12        -0.01        0.40
RxMER (dB)        38.61        38.26        38.61        38.26        39.40        39.40        39.40        39.40
Pre RS Errors        516        418        322        1079        301        301        336        868
Post RS Errors        280        294        307        1062        300        301        336        868

Code:
Upstream
        US-1        US-2        US-3        US-4
Channel Type        2.0        N/A        N/A        2.0
Channel ID        2        N/A        N/A        1
Frequency (Hz)        31000000        N/A        N/A        37600000
Ranging Status        Success        Other        Other        Success
Modulation        64QAM        N/A        N/A        64QAM
Symbol Rate (Sym/sec)        5120000        N/A        N/A        5120000
Mini-Slot Size        4        N/A        N/A        4
Power Level (dBmV)        46.75        N/A        N/A        46.75
T1 Timeouts        0        0        0        0
T2 Timeouts        0        0        0        0
T3 Timeouts        0        0        0        0
T4 Timeouts        0        0        0        0

Gstevie 07-03-2014 13:28
Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels
 
Martin Dee, are you aware if they are looking for people on the Samknows trial just now? Or is it all full up?

Martin_D 07-03-2014 13:33
Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gstevie (Post 35678488)
Martin Dee, are you aware if they are looking for people on the Samknows trial just now? Or is it all full up?
It can take a couple of months for them to get back to you

https://www.samknows.eu/sign-up/

Gstevie 07-03-2014 13:48
Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Martin Dee 11 (Post 35678490)
It can take a couple of months for them to get back to you

https://www.samknows.eu/sign-up/
Thanks, Iv filled it out.
Have you been part of it for a while? Do you find it useful for your own purposes?

Martin_D 07-03-2014 13:53
Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels
 
I have been on it for a year, And yes it is very useful.

Martin_D 10-03-2014 11:38
Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels
 
what is causing the big spikes in Maximum Latency

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2014/03/38.png

Ignitionnet 10-03-2014 12:18
Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels
 
Something running on one of your devices every 5 hours.

Rabb 10-03-2014 14:18
Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels
 
read this yesterday, check postcode checker, could not believe it available in my street the now. rang up, Got great guy called Paul, had me upgraded in minutes. over the moon :) 152mb, 160mb on speedtest, w2g :)

PS! on virgin account when check still says May-sept 2014. so that way outdated now :)

Martin_D 12-03-2014 15:20
Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels
 
Back on 16QAM

Upstream
US-1 US-2 US-3 US-4
Channel Type 2.0 N/A N/A 2.0
Channel ID 2 N/A N/A 1
Frequency (Hz) 31000000 N/A N/A 37600000
Ranging Status Success Other Other Success
Modulation 16QAM N/A N/A 16QAM
Symbol Rate (Sym/sec) 5120000 N/A N/A 5120000
Mini-Slot Size 4 N/A N/A 4
Power Level (dBmV) 48.21 N/A N/A 47.00
T1 Timeouts 0 0 0 0
T2 Timeouts 0 0 0 0
T3 Timeouts 0 0 0 0
T4 Timeouts 0 0 0 0

Ignitionnet 12-03-2014 17:51
Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels
 
The upstream modulations are dynamic and will drop if SNR drops.

Martin_D 12-03-2014 17:57
Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels
 
now back on 2 64QAM Upstreams

US-1 US-2 US-3 US-4
Channel Type 2.0 N/A N/A 2.0
Channel ID 2 N/A N/A 1
Frequency (Hz) 31000000 N/A N/A 37600000
Ranging Status Success Other Other Success
Modulation 64QAM N/A N/A 64QAM
Symbol Rate (Sym/sec) 5120000 N/A N/A 5120000
Mini-Slot Size 4 N/A N/A 4
Power Level (dBmV) 47.00 N/A N/A 47.00
T1 Timeouts 0 0 0 0
T2 Timeouts 0 0 0 0
T3 Timeouts 0 0 0 0
T4 Timeouts 0 0 0 0

Ignitionnet 12-03-2014 18:30
Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Martin Dee 11 (Post 35679926)
now back on 2 64QAM Upstreams
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ignitionnet (Post 35679923)
The upstream modulations are dynamic and will drop if SNR drops.
They rise again when the SNR goes back up past a set threshold. Can also be configured based on error rates.

http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/td/docs...#pgfId-1073116

http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/td/docs...#pgfId-1046561

Gstevie 30-04-2014 23:22
Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels
 
Just had a look on the speed upgrade site for dates and some how the area I am in its actually showing as now happening in Jan 2015 to June 2015! Now I have the upgrade and have done for months, whats going on?

Only looking because my friend that lives across the road did not phone up when I did and i was going to get them to do so now but seeing this is Virgin Media cracking down on updates or has something happened in the Uddingston area?

Kushan 01-05-2014 10:07
Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gstevie (Post 35694118)
Just had a look on the speed upgrade site for dates and some how the area I am in its actually showing as now happening in Jan 2015 to June 2015! Now I have the upgrade and have done for months, whats going on?

Only looking because my friend that lives across the road did not phone up when I did and i was going to get them to do so now but seeing this is Virgin Media cracking down on updates or has something happened in the Uddingston area?
There's been a delay with the rollout. I don't think it should stop your friend phoning in, it's always worth doing and costs you nothing either way.

General Maximus 01-05-2014 17:34
Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels
 
ouch, just checked mine and it is now December-May 2015. That is the second time it has been put back. I don't know why on earth they are allowed to announce upgrades and leave it for over a year till they get round to doing it. I wish they would do it like the old days and just do it when they get round to it and then send a flyer through your door telling you have been upgraded and then it is a nice surprise (I had that when 1mbit first came out about 11 years ago)

Martin_D 05-06-2014 12:45
Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels
 
Now Had 3 outages today. :(

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2014/06/19.png

DABhand 09-06-2014 00:22
Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels
 
At least your area seems to be fine, mine is a nightmare.

Gstevie 11-06-2014 05:49
Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels
 
I don't seem to be having the same problems as u MartinDee, must be more localised than the whole area. My graphs are all pretty steady recently. The latest one here is the most noisy from the past week.

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...11-06-2014.png

deakin 13-06-2014 18:26
Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels
 
Just a quick head's up. Glasgow G72 is now live for the 152mb upgrades.
I'm getting slightly over of about 155mb(ish) and the full 12mb upload.

Jumping 13-06-2014 19:00
Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by deakin (Post 35706683)
Just a quick head's up. Glasgow G72 is now live for the 152mb upgrades.
I'm getting slightly over of about 155mb(ish) and the full 12mb upload.
Is that the free upgrade or did you go and ask to get upgraded in advance?

deakin 14-06-2014 14:29
Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jumping (Post 35706691)
Is that the free upgrade or did you go and ask to get upgraded in advance?
Free upgrade, i got an email informing me that it's ready.

Jumping 14-06-2014 20:03
Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by deakin (Post 35706854)
Free upgrade, i got an email informing me that it's ready.
When was the estimated time for this to be finished? Mine keep slipping further into the future :mad:

deakin 16-06-2014 06:32
Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jumping (Post 35706923)
When was the estimated time for this to be finished? Mine keep slipping further into the future :mad:
I believe they stated the end of June, start of July. But i can say this for a fact. It's been a while since i looked at the postcode checker page.

Martin_D 16-06-2014 12:31
Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels
 
Uddingston

Your speed supercharge will be ready between January 2015 and June 2015.

General Maximus 16-06-2014 12:43
Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels
 
great, you have got to love how they think it is going to take them another year to get it done. How much do you want to bet that they are going to announce the new rollout/upgrade before they finish this one/get round to you?

Jumping 16-06-2014 20:26
Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Martin Dee 11 (Post 35707208)
Uddingston

Your speed supercharge will be ready between January 2015 and June 2015.
Same for me in Wishaw...

Ashbury 19-06-2014 22:44
Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels
 
2 Attachment(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jumping (Post 35707371)
Same for me in Wishaw...
Upgraded Wishaw area 8 weeks ago. Phoned them up and was upgraded + £15 a month discount.

Attachment 25530

Jumping 13-07-2014 12:51
Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels
 
Well I got the upgrade too had to go through retentions so on the 152mb and got a £10 discount on our package so happy days indeed :)

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2014/07/23.png

It's over wifi and got things running the background so not to shabby.

Martin_D 02-09-2014 05:01
Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels
 
Uddingston speed upgrade will be ready between January 2015 and March 2015.

Gstevie 02-09-2014 06:08
Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Martin Dee 11 (Post 35725915)
Uddingston speed upgrade will be ready between January 2015 and March 2015.
That's getting beyond a joke.

Martin_D 02-09-2014 06:42
Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gstevie (Post 35725917)
That's getting beyond a joke.
Its not too bad they have brought its forward by 3 months

Gstevie 02-09-2014 08:02
Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Martin Dee 11 (Post 35725923)
Its not too bad they have brought its forward by 3 months
Iv had my upgrade since March. There is no way their equipment is not ready by now. If it really isn't then they have been doing nothing in some places out of inefficiency or lack of caring out of headlines from the big lines they love so much. They shouldn't announce these things when they can't honestly provide them to all customers. Hopefully once these upgrades are done they will have some future proof backend equipment to manage expectations.

General Maximus 02-09-2014 09:23
Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels
 
it is an absolute joke. I was very naughty and rang up in February and got upgraded early and I am glad I did because I have just checked the postcode checker to find that my area has been put back for the 3rd time this year and it has actually fallen into next year now. How do you go from an eta of April-July (which I am assuming somebody actually thinks about and plans a schedule) to December-February 2015? You can't be off by in your planning by 8 months!

Kushan 02-09-2014 09:31
Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels
 
When you're upgrading a network half the size of a country, 6 months+ worth of delays seem possible.

General Maximus 02-09-2014 10:31
Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels
 
but it happens in most areas every time they do an upgrade. Regardless of the reason, if you know it is going to happen (which it does more often than not), don't announce a speed upgrade and say it is going to be done in 3 months. If you know it is going to take a year then say a year and if you don't want to look like a plank and people ask you why you are announcing an upgrade which isn't going to come into effect for a year, then don't announce it. One push back/delay is understandable if there is an unforeseen circumstance but 3 push backs is just taking the ****. How would VM feel if I said "well I know I said I was going to pay my bill at the end of the month, but I have decided to push it back to next month now...........and then the month after.............and I might pay it at the end of the following month but we'll see how it goes"

Gstevie 02-09-2014 11:24
Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by General Maximus (Post 35725949)
One push back/delay is understandable if there is an unforeseen circumstance but 3 push backs is just taking the ****. How would VM feel if I said "well I know I said I was going to pay my bill at the end of the month, but I have decided to push it back to next month now...........and then the month after.............and I might pay it at the end of the following month but we'll see how it goes"
Exactly! I know in my job if I published or presented to my boss a time scale and then as it turns out I'm 8 months off and realistically this isn't the 1st time delays like this have happened. I don't think I'd have a job after all that.

General Maximus 02-09-2014 11:33
Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels
 
nope, the sad thing is that VM know they can do whatever they want because there is FA the customers can do about it. It would be great if everyone cancelled there VM services and moved over to BT, it might make them think twice and ask themselves what they were doing wrong.

qasdfdsaq 02-09-2014 12:29
Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by General Maximus (Post 35725938)
You can't be off by in your planning by 8 months!
Seeing as most infrastructure projects in the UK usually end up delayed by several years I'm not wholly surprised.

pip08456 02-09-2014 14:15
Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq (Post 35725974)
Seeing as most infrastructure projects in the UK usually end up delayed by several years I'm not wholly surprised.
I'm with him! Stop bitching!

Gstevie 05-09-2014 21:27
Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 35726029)
I'm with him! Stop bitching!

Its a sad state of affairs when paying customers just need to settle for what ever crazy broken promises are half delivered by a company. There is very little choice in some areas, like mine, if you want to get speeds anything like what VM offer. Its obviously not something that can be undone at the end of the day, we do however, as customers have the right to express out disappointment when we never get what is promised when its initially offered.

Ignitionnet 07-09-2014 00:26
Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by General Maximus (Post 35725959)
nope, the sad thing is that VM know they can do whatever they want because there is FA the customers can do about it. It would be great if everyone cancelled there VM services and moved over to BT, it might make them think twice and ask themselves what they were doing wrong.
Right. Clearly people will dump VM for offering 120Mb instead of 152Mb and go en masse to BT to get at most 76Mb.

If people are so upset by the difference between 120Mb and 152Mb not likely to drop to 76. Ignoring that if people are so upset they're a bit weird.

---------- Post added at 00:26 ---------- Previous post was at 00:25 ----------

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gstevie (Post 35726806)
Its a sad state of affairs when paying customers just need to settle for what ever crazy broken promises are half delivered by a company. There is very little choice in some areas, like mine, if you want to get speeds anything like what VM offer. Its obviously not something that can be undone at the end of the day, we do however, as customers have the right to express out disappointment when we never get what is promised when its initially offered.
When were you promised an upgrade by said date?

craigj2k12 07-09-2014 05:00
Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels
 
how are the upstream channels in uddingston holding up....

qasdfdsaq 09-09-2014 01:51
Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels
 
What upstream channels? I thought it was all carrier pigeon these days.

Martin_D 19-11-2014 14:35
Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels
 
2 Attachment(s)
Anyone else have speed issues in Uddingston area

Attachment 25836

Attachment 25837

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Gstevie 19-11-2014 15:09
Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels
 
Not in Coatbridge. Just checked mine and it's been a consistent 17.8 to 18.4MB/s

Stop It 19-11-2014 15:11
Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels
 
Your DS-5 channel appears to be broken or mis-reported (0 SNR). Try rebooting the Superhub.

If the channel still reports as that or worse, and a reset doesn't help it may be time to give VM a call.

Martin_D 19-11-2014 15:21
Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stop It (Post 35741928)
Your DS-5 channel appears to be broken or mis-reported (0 SNR). Try rebooting the Superhub.

If the channel still reports as that or worse, and a reset doesn't help it may be time to give VM a call.
Reboot did the trick Thank you

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2014/11/20.png

Martin_D 19-11-2014 19:17
Re: Uddingston ML5 2 Upstream Channels
 
1 Attachment(s)
Looks like SNR problem on the Upstream now

Going from 64 QAM (dBmV) 49.25 to 16 QAM (dBmV) 50.46 every 15 - 30 seconds

Attachment 25838


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