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Another year of Vettel / Red Bull dominance could destroy F1 - were it not for the action a bit further back, today's race would not have been worth watching.

But what can they do? meddling with cost saving measures does not seem to have helped.

I'd like to see them bring back the spare car and the restart, the big spectacle of the first corner incident and the rush to prepare the T car.

As for the safety car, keep it, but limit it's deployment

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Well I hope the new cars engines will stir thing up as 1.6 litre turbo engines should go pop a few times

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Mark Webber takes pole ahead of Sebastian Vettel.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/24504743

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Excellent. Here's hoping Vettel has some kind of trouble with his car tomorrow so he cannot score any points. Would like the title race to be at least a little closer. This season, which promised so much back in February has now become an anti climax.

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It looks like Mark Webber's team broke into the Red Bull Garage last night and swapped the cars around.

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Pity they could not do that on a regular basis.:D

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I think Seb will win tomorrow but the championship will go to another race

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thats not Sebs fault, or RedBulls. Why don't you take your anger out on the rules and teams being flops.

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i wasn't being angry. Just stating that this season has proved to be a total anti climax. Would be saying the same even if it was a driver I liked running away with the title. It's just like having Schumacher in a Ferrari again.

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the qaulity in F1 sucks then.

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Sebastian Vettel wins, with Fernando Alonso fourth.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/24510640

Predictable as usual.

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:D Seb should get the title in India

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:(:td:

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Only good news today is that Hamilton failed to finish. Excellent. Unfortunately, looks like the FIA will get their wish next race with the latest golden boy winning yet ANOTHER title.

Might see if I can send a letter of complaint to the FIA about the way they make it impossible for anyone but the golden boy to win a race.

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How exactly do they do that? :confused:

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/24618426

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Sad to say I am losing interest in F1 there is not enough close racing for long enough at the front of the race, its almost processional .

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Sebastian Vettel beats Nico Rosberg to pole at Indian GP

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/24682933

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:)

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great stuff :D

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2013/10/1.gif

:LOL:

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:(:td:

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At least the MotoGP title is going down to the last race of the season...

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I hate Vettel and I hate Vettel fans.

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What has Seb done? What has RedBull done? Is it their fault the rest of F1 sucks?

Likewise anyway. Put your toys back in your pram.

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I'm no fan of Vettel, but booing is just not cricket.

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The booing towards Vettel and RBR is towards F1 as a whole. Why would anyone be surprised after witnessing the most boring F1 season in history. People pay thousands to see F1 as well as it being a few years in as a semi premium paid for tv sport. Are people getting their money's worth? Nope and Sky know that too. If it continues like this people will just walk away from it.

An F1 season should be decided more from the driver and not the car which simply isn't the case at RBR. Lewis, Kimi, Grosjean, Alonso and others have taken bad cars to podiums and poles. That's racing and that's what we intended to watch. Instead we're been treat to a car that's uncatchable.

Besides all of that. Any paying customer has a right to voice their opinion when they feel they've been shafted.

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well next year 1.6 litre turbos should be fun. I remember the 80s, when the turbos went bang, they went bang.

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RedBull has brains and Seb can drive which he can whether people like it or not but they are not ruining the sport. Their setting a benchmark to date which no one else has caught. Up the qaulity in F1 ruling and teams then may be we'll get sonewhere. until then i can only look at the other teams in disgust. What exactly are these 'professionals' doing? Anyone would think it was fixed. Infact it would be less embarassing if it was. The drivers have suffered on multi million pound deals. boo-hoo. the backroom bods have suffered on mega contracts.

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Fans boredom and consistent booing = Red Bull dominance. Naturally they didn't intend it but they're still the cause of it.

The same would happen with anyone that wins 4 times in a row.

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RedBull didnt cause the problem. the blame is firmly at the door of the other teams. if they cannot get a car together to compete in the top tier of motorsport then bore off, get new people in.

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We're not booing the rest of the pack. We're booing RBR and Vettel. We'll continue to cheer for Mark Webber though. We're bored of Red Bull not the rest of the grid.

If it was alonso for the past 4 years he'd get the same reception. After the Webber incident Seb deserves all of this anyway, He could quit tomorrow and I doubt anyone bar the Germans and a select few would actually care.

He's the John Cena of F1.

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:LOL: you lot are harsh. dont know who John Cena is though :erm:

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He's been sat at the top of WWE and some Holywood movies despite people growing bored years ago. Basically same as Vettel. Except F1 is a legitimate sport and you can't punish someone for winning if they won fairly of course. WWE could remove Cena from the gold pile at any minute but don't. Leading to negativity every time he's seen.

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All the mucking around with rule changes never improved anything, why should 1.6 Turbo be any different, - unless the old engine is actually superior, and the minnows are allowed to keep it.

Oh and, must cut costs to get more teams in, but Caterham and Marussia are just not in the same race - at least in the old days when turbo and non-turbo ran together, there was effectively a second championship among the non-turbo runners.

I'd also favour a handicapping system, success ballast, or maybe drivers with no points exempt from the "use both types of tyre requirement" - though I'd rather they scrapped that altogether - it doesn't "mix things up" in the way that having two tyre suppliers did.

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Unlike other cockpit/steering controls that currently manage the existing engines in a limited fashion the turbo boost will play a more major role especially with limited fuel. Too much boost and although you gain major speed you guzzle up the petrol so it'll be a trade off between speed and actually finishing the race. Just look at F1 in the 70/80's to see what sort of racing was achieved which to me was some of the best racing going.

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/24725406

Brawn to leave Mercedes at the end of this season

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Kimi Raikkonen threatens to boycott races over pay dispute

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/24776816

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Don't blame him. Millionaire or not, nobody should work for free when they have a contract stating a wage. I think we will be back to just 20 drivers next year, Lotus seem to have serious cash flow problems according to that article.

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Sebastian Vettel takes crushing Abu Dhabi GP win for Red Bull

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/24795236

Alfonso cheat his way to 5th, and avoids penalty, well that's FIA (Ferrari International Assistance) for you.

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They were at Ferrari world after all.

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Alonso apparently taken to hospital for precautionary checks on his back after going over kerbs at high speed. Will not pretend that I am his biggest fan, but I wouldn't wish paralysis on him.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/24798485

Nice to see them taking health seriously though.

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http://www.planet-f1.com/news/3213/9...Sign-Agreement

Wonder what Eddie Jordan will have to say about this, he always has a lot to say about other teams.

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Kimi's season at Lotus is over.

http://www1.skysports.com/f1/news/12...gery-next-week

It looks like alfonso will not be fit to race in the US, well serves him right for cheating.

I've also heard Massa's off to Williams to replace Maldonado.

No if alfonso is unfit could Kimi be talked in to driving his car?

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Link
http://grandprix247.com/2013/11/11/alonso-could-miss-austin-and-pave-way-for-bianchi-to-make-ferrari-debut/

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Yes Massa has just been confirmed.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/24897809

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No guess who won the US GP.

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8 in a row for Seb :woot:

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Didn't bother watching it. From what I've heard half the drivers didn't even make an effort. What a sad place F1 is becoming.

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Hope next season is more competitive. Doubt it though.

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Formula 1 to award double points for final race from 2014

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/25310466

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I've heard some daft ideas, but that really takes the biscuit. So many problems, but most significantly is whether it is actually fair to all that one race is worth so much more than others? Do teams save an engine / gearbox combo for the last race in the hope of achieving greater reliability? Is the track to be used one that equally favours all car designs? I've seen plenty of talk in the past that certain chassis perhaps do better on some circuits than others so it evens out over the season. What about the lottery of accident / safety car / weather? What they are trying to do is artificially create interest in a last race when the reality is it was all over and only the middle ranks had stuff to play for. But that happens in many sports. Presumably the football league will now follow suit?

Realistically this is about one driver waltzing off with the title early because the other teams weren't as competitive over the season. If what they really want to do is create a handicap, why not simply add weight to the cars that score points in previous races to slow them down?

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Lotus's interpretation of the 2014 rules.

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2013/12/23.jpg

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I want to see a Bernie to be a speed bump rule :D

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BBC's F1 coverage to include nine live races in 2014

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/25458397

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http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/88...l#post35656473

New thread for the 2014 season