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howardmicks 10-01-2013 18:56

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 1.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35521526)
Media Boy EXCLUSIVE: Virgin Media to have busy January.

An Virgin Insider has reveal to me today that the following things are set to happen by the end of January - as early as next week.

-New channels to launch.
-Some channel to be repackages.
-Virgin Media to renumber some channels.

NOTE: I do not work for Virgin Media so all the information on this post is subject to change.

©copyright 2013 Media Boy 2006 - 2013. An ''Keep it real and free'' Production.

Thanks for the info mb,personally believe it when I see it,after the last bunch of tosh in December I dread to think what we will get if anything does appear

Chad 10-01-2013 18:58

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35521526)
Media Boy EXCLUSIVE: Virgin Media to have busy January.

An Virgin Insider has reveal to me today that the following things are set to happen by the end of January - as early as next week.

-New channels to launch.
-Some channel to be repackages.
-Virgin Media to renumber some channels.

NOTE: I do not work for Virgin Media so all the information on this post is subject to change.

©copyright 2013 Media Boy 2006 - 2013. An ''Keep it real and free'' Production.

Well I hope that my ever suffering loyal Virgin chums on this thread finally get something to look forward too. I seriously hope you get something nice like SKY Atlantic. Previous experience however suggests it'll turn out to be nothing more than FX being rebranded FOX and BBC Onc Scotland HD launching. Let's see what pleasant surprises Virgin have in store to justify recent price hikes.

Dave42 10-01-2013 19:03

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35521627)
Well I hope that my ever suffering loyal Virgin chums on this thread finally get something to look forward too. I seriously hope you get something nice like SKY Atlantic. Previous experience however suggests it'll turn out to be nothing more than FX being rebranded FOX and BBC Onc Scotland HD launching. Let's see what pleasant surprises Virgin have in store to justify recent price hikes.

cant see it being that as sky changed word on advertisements and makes it clear only sky customers get it so aint coming here

Chad 10-01-2013 19:18

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 35521630)
cant see it being that as sky changed word on advertisements and makes it clear only sky customers get it so aint coming here

Smallworld Cable are adding SKY1+1 to their line-up this month. Whilst SKY Atlantic might be an outside bet I think that deals for SKY News HD, SKY Sports News HD and SKY1+1 are very realistic. SKY have opened up these channels to the likes of UPC and Smallworld. Virgin surely would be able to snap them up too with the right offer.

the_pidgeon 10-01-2013 19:49

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35521640)
Smallworld Cable are adding SKY1+1 to their line-up this month. Whilst SKY Atlantic might be an outside bet I think that deals for SKY News HD, SKY Sports News HD and SKY1+1 are very realistic. SKY have opened up these channels to the likes of UPC and Smallworld. Virgin surely would be able to snap them up too with the right offer.

Isn't that Sky Atlantic HD thats exclusive? Like they keep saying that Sky is the only place to get F1 totally in HD?

OLD BOY 10-01-2013 20:46

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Quote:

Originally Posted by the_pidgeon (Post 35521659)
Isn't that Sky Atlantic HD thats exclusive? Like they keep saying that Sky is the only place to get F1 totally in HD?

My word, isn't that HD so clear? It stands out from the rest of the post!

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35521520)
I have given all the answers that I am able to and see no point in this thread being further disrupted.[COLOR="Silver"]

...That you're able to? We'll take that as a no, then Richard, if you can't remember ever having watched it.

As I thought. :sleep:

Dave42 10-01-2013 21:03

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35521640)
Smallworld Cable are adding SKY1+1 to their line-up this month. Whilst SKY Atlantic might be an outside bet I think that deals for SKY News HD, SKY Sports News HD and SKY1+1 are very realistic. SKY have opened up these channels to the likes of UPC and Smallworld. Virgin surely would be able to snap them up too with the right offer.

yes totally agree with you there Chad mate

Media Boy UK 10-01-2013 21:14

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35521627)
Well I hope that my ever suffering loyal Virgin chums on this thread finally get something to look forward too. I seriously hope you get something nice like SKY Atlantic. Previous experience however suggests it'll turn out to be nothing more than FX being rebranded FOX and BBC Onc Scotland HD launching. Let's see what pleasant surprises Virgin have in store to justify recent price hikes.

FX and ITV1 rebrands has been confrimed as set to happen over the next Five days.

BBC One Scotland HD will launch on Monday - it been confirmed.

Plus more Channels are coming (Just do not know how many).

I think the channels renumbers are from Channel 118 to Channel 197 (Not confrimed).

harry_hitch 10-01-2013 21:42

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35521717)
FX and ITV1 rebrands has been confrimed as set to happen over the next Five days.

BBC One Scotland HD will launch on Monday - it been confirmed.

Plus more Channels are coming (Just do not know how many).

I think the channels renumbers are from Channel 118 to Channel 197 (Not confrimed).

Let the speculation begin:):erm:

Could this be the long awaited arrival of the remaining ITV HD channels (taking channels 115 - 117) thus needing the channel renumbering (is that a word?) Although, given the post some weeks back regarding ITV HD exclusivity, I severly doubt it.

Jameseh 11-01-2013 01:26

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Fox +1 on 159 hopefully.

RichardCoulter 11-01-2013 09:31

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 1.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35521526)
Media Boy EXCLUSIVE: Virgin Media to have busy January.

An Virgin Insider has reveal to me today that the following things are set to happen by the end of January - as early as next week.

-New channels to launch.
-Some channel to be repackages.
-Virgin Media to renumber some channels.

NOTE: I do not work for Virgin Media so all the information on this post is subject to change.

©copyright 2013 Media Boy 2006 - 2013. An ''Keep it real and free'' Production.

Let's keep our fingers crossed.

Quote:

Originally Posted by kop32 (Post 35521548)
Was it Richard?.....,or can't you say;):D

I never said that Current TV was definitely going to return, so don't try and make out that I give duff information out, so as to try and discredit Media Boy's source.

Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35521695)
My word, isn't that HD so clear? It stands out from the rest of the post!

---------- Post added at 19:46 ---------- Previous post was at 19:45 ----------

...That you're able to? We'll take that as a no, then Richard, if you can't remember ever having watched it.

As I thought. :sleep:

I find it extraordinary that you should be so obsessively interested in my viewing habits, so, by all means, do go back to sleep.

Itshim 11-01-2013 09:35

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35521627)
Well I hope that my ever suffering loyal Virgin chums on this thread finally get something to look forward too. I seriously hope you get something nice like SKY Atlantic. Previous experience however suggests it'll turn out to be nothing more than FX being rebranded FOX and BBC Onc Scotland HD launching. Let's see what pleasant surprises Virgin have in store to justify recent price hikes.


I spent 5 minutes looking at Atlantics offering this passed week . Sorry what was on offer that was so good? - The Sky bike team - repeated ( I guess that part). Star trek & honestly what seems to be the same shows over and over. With people I have never heard of. My son & daughter both have Sky & both agree that this is not a channel they use much or indeed at all. I suspect that the advertising dept. of Sky are rubbing there hands in glee at the Virgin subscribers frenzy over this channel.:dozey:

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35521840)
to try and discredit Media Boy's source.

I would argue that he/she has done that all on there own - track & record :erm:

denphone 11-01-2013 10:08

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Itshim (Post 35521841)
I spent 5 minutes looking at Atlantics offering this passed week . Sorry what was on offer that was so good? - The Sky bike team - repeated ( I guess that part). Star trek & honestly what seems to be the same shows over and over. With people I have never heard of. My son & daughter both have Sky & both agree that this is not a channel they use much or indeed at all. I suspect that the advertising dept. of Sky are rubbing there hands in glee at the Virgin subscribers frenzy over this channel.:dozey:

Sorry Victor but l think that's rather a exaggeration you make of us VM customers getting into a frenzy as yes it would be nice to have the channel as it Would give us the viewer a little more choice don't you think?.

RichardCoulter 11-01-2013 10:17

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Itshim (Post 35521841)
I spent 5 minutes looking at Atlantics offering this passed week . Sorry what was on offer that was so good? - The Sky bike team - repeated ( I guess that part). Star trek & honestly what seems to be the same shows over and over. With people I have never heard of. My son & daughter both have Sky & both agree that this is not a channel they use much or indeed at all. I suspect that the advertising dept. of Sky are rubbing there hands in glee at the Virgin subscribers frenzy over this channel.:dozey:

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I would argue that he/she has done that all on there own - track & record :erm:

If that's how you feel, I don't understand why you participate in the thread :confused:

I do agree that Sky Atlantic is vastly overrated.

Media Boy UK 11-01-2013 10:19

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Rumours: TCM2, TCM HD and Cartoon Network HD may launch this month.

Found this on DS Forum:

Quote:

rumour until confirmed but TCM HD, Cartoon Network HD and TCM2 should be available on VM some time this month.
http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showp...54&postcount=8

andy_m 11-01-2013 10:27

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TCM hd would be a reasonable addition - they have some good shows in amongst some decent films. TCM 2 is basically TCM +5 so should please some. Do we need cartoons in hd?

denphone 11-01-2013 10:32

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35521857)
Rumours: TCM2, TCM HD and Cartoon Network HD may launch this month.

Found this on DS Forum:



http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showp...54&postcount=8

Well lets see what transpires in the coming weeks MB.

Henkesghost 11-01-2013 10:33

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Originally Posted by andy_m (Post 35521860)
TCM hd would be a reasonable addition - they have some good shows in amongst some decent films. TCM 2 is basically TCM +5 so should please some. Do we need cartoons in hd?

Animation in HD looks great mate. TCM HD also a decent addition.

If true :tu:

nstokes 11-01-2013 10:34

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35521857)
Rumours: TCM2, TCM HD and Cartoon Network HD may launch this month.

Found this on DS Forum:



http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showp...54&postcount=8

TCM HD would be a good addtion to VM i reckon

nicknewark 11-01-2013 11:19

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Here we go again, hope it isn't another example of false rumours and nothing exciting at the end of it.

nstokes 11-01-2013 11:46

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Quote:

Originally Posted by nicknewark (Post 35521878)
Here we go again, hope it isn't another example of false rumours and nothing exciting at the end of it.

How do you know there false?

Media Boy UK 11-01-2013 12:45

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FOX launches tonight at 9pm.

FX will relaunch as FOX from tonight at 9pm on Virgin Channel 157.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35521640)
Smallworld Cable are adding SKY1+1 to their line-up this month. Whilst SKY Atlantic might be an outside bet I think that deals for SKY News HD, SKY Sports News HD and SKY1+1 are very realistic. SKY have opened up these channels to the likes of UPC and Smallworld. Virgin surely would be able to snap them up too with the right offer.

I cant find anything about Sky1 +1 launching on Smallworld Cable this month.

Can you post link.

Can everyone stop PM me asking me to reveal the names of the new channels set to launch in January.

I cant post them as I was not given any names by an Insider yesterday.

cdf90 11-01-2013 12:53

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35521885)
I cant find anything about Sky1 +1 launching on Smallworld Cable this month.

http://www.smallworldcable.com/News/...our-TV-line-up

Media Boy UK 11-01-2013 12:56

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cdf90 (Post 35521898)

Thanks for link.

sebastion 11-01-2013 13:27

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Thanks for the update MB.

I was having a look at the Smallworld prices and they are still pricing the Sky Sports Package (F1 included) @ £21.50.

It does make one wonder. Are VM fleecing their customers.

RichardCoulter 11-01-2013 13:32

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35521857)
Rumours: TCM2, TCM HD and Cartoon Network HD may launch this month.

Found this on DS Forum:



http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showp...54&postcount=8

Interesting, if these appear, it looks like VM have renewed their carriage agreement with Turner.

Quote:

Originally Posted by andy_m (Post 35521860)
TCM hd would be a reasonable addition - they have some good shows in amongst some decent films. TCM 2 is basically TCM +5 so should please some. Do we need cartoons in hd?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Henkesghost (Post 35521866)
Animation in HD looks great mate. TCM HD also a decent addition.

If true :tu:

I've never seen animation in HD and wouldn't have thought it made much difference, until you said otherwise.

Quote:

Originally Posted by cdf90 (Post 35521898)

I wonder why Smallworld are losing the Disney channels. I did think it was down to the cost, but they say it's "outside of their control", so I wonder if Disney have refused to renew the carriage agreement for some reason.

Chad 11-01-2013 13:34

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Itshim (Post 35521841)
I spent 5 minutes looking at Atlantics offering this passed week . Sorry what was on offer that was so good? - The Sky bike team - repeated ( I guess that part). Star trek & honestly what seems to be the same shows over and over. With people I have never heard of. My son & daughter both have Sky & both agree that this is not a channel they use much or indeed at all. I suspect that the advertising dept. of Sky are rubbing there hands in glee at the Virgin subscribers frenzy over this channel.:dozey:

SKY Atlantic, like any other channel, has a lot of padding. There is no channel currently broadcasting that offers wall-to-wall quality 24/7. My wife is a big fan of American drama and loves Game of Thrones, Blue Bloods and The Newsroom. I prefer the likes of The British, Alan Partridge and look forward to Vegas and The Following. The channel isn’t for everyone however if you like American programming or innovative drama no other channel does it better in the UK than SKY Atlantic. The list of shows on the channel is pretty impressive:

http://skyatlantic.sky.com/shows

The question you need to ask is would the addition of SKY Atlantic add value or improve Virgins current channel and on demand line-up? The answer has got to be yes.

Media Boy UK 11-01-2013 13:35

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35521913)
I wonder why Smallworld are losing the Disney channels. I did think it was down to the cost, but they say it's "outside of their control", so I wonder if Disney have refused to renew the carriage agreement for some reason.

Smallworld owner has confirmed on DS Forum that 'Apparently someone at Disney has decided they only want to deal with the largest operators.'

http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showthread.php?t=1773792

Itshim 11-01-2013 13:36

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35521855)
If that's how you feel, I don't understand why you participate in the thread :confused:

Ir is hardly MB only now is it :erm:.But in answer That is why I do NOT look at his blog.

If you have time on your hands, I cant be bothered. look at the posts last year & get the percentage of correct ones. I guess the need to take "lucky guesses " into account. Would be a variable factor as well. Was always told never ask a question you don`t know answer to.In this case I will make an exception. :confused:

OLD BOY 11-01-2013 13:44

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35521840)
I find it extraordinary that you should be so obsessively interested in my viewing habits, so, by all means, do go back to sleep.

Richard, I am beginning to think you are losing the plot, old chap. I do not have an unhealthy obsession with what you watch on TV.

My point is that you have attempted to discredit Al Jazeera with a comment on its 'subtle bias' and you appear never to have watched the channel. You have not backed up your comment with any credible sources and it just seems to have come out of nowhere, which to me indicates a subtle nationalistic bias on your part.

I don't care that you haven't watched the channel (I don't think you would have been so cagey about the question had you in fact done so - it's a simple yes or no).

I have worked out for myself that your comment was made without your having even watched the channel so we can take your criticism as not having much credibility.

That is all. What a fuss!

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Itshim (Post 35521841)
I spent 5 minutes looking at Atlantics offering this passed week . Sorry what was on offer that was so good?

We all know there is a lot of padding on this channel, as there is on all the Sky channels and other digital channels.

The point is that there are some good programmes on there over time, including Boardwalk Empire, Mad Men, Game of Thrones and so on that some of us would like to see.

Itshim 11-01-2013 13:44

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35521914)

The question you need to ask is would the addition of SKY Atlantic add value or improve Virgins current channel and on demand line-up? The answer has got to be yes.

As I said used this weeks TV guide & the only thing that jumped out was repeats of shows & general padding. So would it add value to Virgins line up,not if it cost me a cent extra.:dozey:
Answer again is on the face of what I see & the admittedly only the one day I had to use Sky NO .
If its so good perhaps it could be a stand alone channel. No problem with that from my point of view. It would be interesting to see how many would then take it. :confused:

RichardCoulter 11-01-2013 13:44

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35521916)
Smallworld owner has confirmed on DS Forum that 'Apparently someone at Disney has decided they only want to deal with the largest operators.'

http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showthread.php?t=1773792

What a stupid thing to do, especially in a recession. As Dave from Smallworld said, Disney don't have to do anything, just accept the monthly payments from the operators.

Chad 11-01-2013 13:49

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Quote:

Originally Posted by sebastion (Post 35521911)
I was having a look at the Smallworld prices and they are still pricing the Sky Sports Package (F1 included) @ £21.50.

It does make one wonder. Are VM fleecing their customers.

They also offer SKY Sports & SKY Movies for £29.50 per month. It does make Virgins prices look extortionate and makes you wonder how much cheaper Virgin could offer the channels to their customers, if they really wanted to.

If BT Sports does come to Virgin this summer I bet Virgin charge more than any other provider for the channel. That is of course unless it's added to the XL package. Don't hold your breath!

Itshim 11-01-2013 13:50

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35521923)


---------- Post added at 12:44 ---------- Previous post was at 12:41 ----------

We all know there is a lot of padding on this channel, as there is on all the Sky channels and other digital channels.

The point is that there are some good programmes on there over time, including Boardwalk Empire, Mad Men, Game of Thrones and so on that some of us would like to see.

I repeat at what cost ? Seems to have been enough complaints about price increases here.Would you really want to add- I guess, no reason, pulled out of the air.£10 per month to get it:confused:

OLD BOY 11-01-2013 13:58

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Itshim (Post 35521930)
I repeat at what cost ? Seems to have been enough complaints about price increases here.Would you really want to add- I guess, no reason, pulled out of the air.£10 per month to get it:confused:

I'm not advocating that we should pay an extortionate amount for this channel, and you will know from my previous posts that I am not blaming Virgin Media for this situation.

Chad 11-01-2013 13:59

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Itshim (Post 35521926)
As I said used this weeks TV guide & the only thing that jumped out was repeats of shows & general padding. So would it add value to Virgins line up,not if it cost me a cent extra.:dozey:

I think after recent price hikes Virgin should have enough money in the coffers to add SKY Atlantic at no extra cost.

The only place currently offering SKY Atlantic programming, legally, without a SKY subscription is Blinkbox.

http://www.blinkbox.com/Search?Search=hbo

They are charging £1.89 per episode or up to £19.99 for a full series, and people are actually paying this! If Virgin could add SKY Atlantic resulting in a £1 increase for all customers it would be tremendous value, especially to current Virgin customers paying £1.89 per episode of the likes of Game of Thrones via Blinkbox.

Of course people not interested in the channel wouldn't be as happy.

Itshim 11-01-2013 14:45

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35521936)
! If Virgin could add SKY Atlantic resulting in a £1 increase for all customers it would be tremendous value, especially to current Virgin customers paying £1.89 per episode of the likes of Game of Thrones via Blinkbox.

Of course people not interested in the channel wouldn't be as happy.

Extra channels at more EXTRA cost. You are right I for one would not be happy. At no extra cost had what ever they like. Unlikely I would watch as I can not fit in what I have at the moment :D

I note that you are a Sky customer, perhaps you need to prove that Sky have channels that every one SHOULD want. Well I dont.

Media Boy UK 11-01-2013 15:00

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35521927)
What a stupid thing to do, especially in a recession. As Dave from Smallworld said, Disney don't have to do anything, just accept the monthly payments from the operators.

What will happen to Virgin Media - do you think Disney see them as an 'Wee Cable operator'?

Itshim 11-01-2013 15:08

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35521950)
What will happen to Virgin
media - do you think Disney see them as an 'Wee Cable operator'?

Probably. ;)
If they pulled off Cable how many would that push to Sky. In our home it would I am afraid be on the table. Disney is well watched - Good grief I know more of actors names in their shows than ones on BBC :rolleyes:

bamav 11-01-2013 15:24

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35521916)
Smallworld owner has confirmed on DS Forum that 'Apparently someone at Disney has decided they only want to deal with the largest operators.'

http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showthread.php?t=1773792

Maybe "Smallworld" is giving out the wrong message and should rename themselves to "Largeworld"... ;)

Chad 11-01-2013 16:18

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Itshim (Post 35521944)
I note that you are a Sky customer, perhaps you need to prove that Sky have channels that every one SHOULD want. Well I dont.

Members on this site have made it clear time and time again they want the channel. They don't need me to prove anything. They are smart enough to make up their own minds without reading my posts.

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/11...gin-media.html

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/11...ant-cable.html

You might not want the channel, but the majority of others do.

Itshim 11-01-2013 16:30

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35521966)
I don't need to prove anything. Members on this site have made it clear time and time again they want the channel.

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/11...gin-media.html

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/11...ant-cable.html

You might not want the channel, but the majority of others do.

As Carl would say proof ! Most of the people I mention it to show complete indifference. You cannot possibly use comments posted here as conveying the views of anything like the majority of Virgin subscribers

Out of interest what would its viewing figures be as a percentage of Sky subscribers ?
Can see its a real hit !------
http://www.barb.co.uk/viewing/weekly...iewing-summary

denphone 11-01-2013 16:54

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35521966)
Members on this site have made it clear time and time again they want the channel. They don't need me to prove anything. They are smart enough to make up their own minds without reading my posts.

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/11...gin-media.html

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/11...ant-cable.html

You might not want the channel, but the majority of others do.

Summed up perfectly Chad and Victor can moan and squeal as much as he wants about the channel because you have to remember Victor and his daily moans go hand in hand.:)

andy_m 11-01-2013 17:02

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35521966)
Members on this site have made it clear time and time again they want the channel. They don't need me to prove anything. They are smart enough to make up their own minds without reading my posts.

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/11...gin-media.html

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/11...ant-cable.html

You might not want the channel, but the majority of others do.

The majority of people who have voted in polls on this site.

toady 11-01-2013 17:08

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35521936)
If Virgin could add SKY Atlantic resulting in a £1 increase for all customers it would be tremendous value

I'd be very unhappy if I had to pay an extra quid for a channel I'd never watch :mad: Make the channel a subscription by itself and that would satisfy everyone

Chad 11-01-2013 17:24

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Itshim (Post 35521971)
You cannot possibly use comments posted here as conveying the views of anything like the majority of Virgin subscribers.

I didn't suggest comments posted here represents the majority of virgin subscribers. I made it clear I was only referring to members on this site.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Itshim (Post 35521971)
Out of interest what would its viewing figures be as a percentage of Sky subscribers ?
Can see its a real hit !------
http://www.barb.co.uk/viewing/weekly...iewing-summary.

823,000 viewers for SKY Atlantic and SKY Atlantic+1 represents 8% of SKY’s customer base. Not bad during a week without any new real shows being broadcast on the channel and having to compete with the terrestrial TV Christmas schedule. The channel often reaches 1,000,000 viewers when the likes of Game of Thrones and Boardward Empire get episode premiers.

BARB includes recordings in their viewing figure totals. Only problem is they only include recordings that are watched within 7 days of the broadcast. There is likely to be thousands more viewers for SKY Atlantic, and many other TV channels, who don’t ever watch the channel “live” saving up programmes on series link on their PVR to view at a later date. On Demand views of shows are only counted up to 7 days after broadcast too. These people are never credited as viewers, even though they are watching the channels content.

andy_m 11-01-2013 18:23

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Chad, it's 10 million households, not 10 million viewers. It's nowhere near an 8% share of that.

Chad 11-01-2013 18:32

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Quote:

Originally Posted by andy_m (Post 35521996)
Chad, it's 10 million households, not 10 million viewers. It's nowhere near an 8% share of that.

The question I was asked was:

"Out of interest what would its viewing figures be as a percentage of Sky subscribers?"

SKY have just over 10 million subscribers, hence my answer.

Your point however is also very valid.

andy_m 11-01-2013 18:56

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OK, fair point-If the question was "as a percentage of Sky consumers" or similar then, based on an average household of 2.4 people (ONS), then it's nearer 3%.

I note from the Barb link that it's actual audience share is 1.3%, which is comparable with Sky Arts, albeit that channel is more widely available. Atlantic is a great statement of Sky's commitment to TV, and it's a fantastic driver of subscriptions. What it isn't is well watched. That doesn't mean it isn't a good channel, Btw.

Mr Banana 11-01-2013 19:48

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35521966)
Members on this site have made it clear time and time again they want the channel. They don't need me to prove anything. They are smart enough to make up their own minds without reading my posts.

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/11...gin-media.html

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/11...ant-cable.html

You might not want the channel, but the majority of others do.

So why is VM growing its TV subscriber base at a faster rate than Sky?

denphone 11-01-2013 19:52

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Top banana (Post 35522020)
So why is VM growing its TV subscriber base at a faster rate than Sky?

Simples as it has the best overall value package.:)

Dave42 11-01-2013 19:56

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Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35522022)
Simples as it has the best overall value package.:)

exactly Den and SA not the pull sky thinks it is either ;)

alwaysabear 11-01-2013 20:00

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Top banana (Post 35522020)
So why is VM growing its TV subscriber base at a faster rate than Sky?

Once you have reached a certain level it is hard to progress the figure. 10 million households is a very impressive figure in these times, I am sure VM would love to have that many subscribers.
VM have grown marginally faster, but after the latest round of price rises the next set of figures will make interesting reading.

Mr Banana 11-01-2013 20:17

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Quote:

Originally Posted by alwaysabear (Post 35522025)
Once you have reached a certain level it is hard to progress the figure. 10 million households is a very impressive figure in these times, I am sure VM would love to have that many subscribers.
VM have grown marginally faster, but after the latest round of price rises the next set of figures will make interesting reading.

This has been discussed before but in terms of footprint they have a very similar % of customers, even though Sky can sell in VM areas but VM can't sell in 50% of the country.

Reckon there numbers will be v good this time round, my mates a tech and he says they have been very busy installing and have a major recruitment drive on at the moment

andy_m 11-01-2013 20:19

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Quote:

Originally Posted by alwaysabear (Post 35522025)
Once you have reached a certain level it is hard to progress the figure. 10 million households is a very impressive figure in these times, I am sure VM would love to have that many subscribers.
VM have grown marginally faster, but after the latest round of price rises the next set of figures will make interesting reading.

Sky is more readily available than Virgin. Virgin has more subscribers than Sky as a percentage of those that it's available to. Generally if you can get Virgin you can also get Sky, and in those areas Virgin does better.

In terms of the price rises, if you take posters on here as a representative sample, perhaps only Chad actually moved, maybe one or two more. People will moan like hell, but they really won't bother to do anything about it.

muppetman11 11-01-2013 20:30

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To balance the argument out , Sky have only offered triple play since around 2006 there growth in triple play has been phenomenal plus VM have always had fibre optic Broadband speeds something Sky could only dream of however with BT's fibre footprint growing daily and already larger than VM's this eventually will bring fibre availability to the majority of Sky's subscriber base.

kenjardine 11-01-2013 20:44

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any chance of ivestigation discovery,mb

denphone 11-01-2013 20:50

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Quote:

Originally Posted by kenjardine (Post 35522036)
any chance of ivestigation discovery,mb

No from what l know but perhaps MB can update you on that.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35522034)
To balance the argument out , Sky have only offered triple play since around 2006 there growth in triple play has been phenomenal plus VM have always had fibre optic Broadband speeds something Sky could only dream of however with BT's fibre footprint growing daily and already larger than VM's this eventually will bring fibre availability to the majority of Sky's subscriber base.

Indeed a lot of what you say is true to a certain extent except that Virgin's broadband will always be comfortably ahead of Sky's no matter what thus also in the TiVo box Virgin has a huge advantage over Sky in regards to having a far superior STB and that is unlikely to change for the forseeable future.

kenjardine 11-01-2013 20:51

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i think whatswe have all discovery channels whats wrong with i.d.

alwaysabear 11-01-2013 21:25

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Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35522037)
No from what l know but perhaps MB can update you on that.

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Indeed a lot of what you say is true to a certain extent except that Virgin's broadband will always be comfortably ahead of Sky's no matter what thus also in the TiVo box Virgin has a huge advantage over Sky in regards to having a far superior STB and that is unlikely to change for the forseeable future.

I have been with VM / Telewest for about 14 years and I have excellent BB, but that is not to say that in the future Sky will not be able to equal or better VM.
To you the Tivo is the deciding factor, but to others content is more important so it is horses for courses Den. I personally have no need for Tivo. I have stayed with VM as I have extracted an overall £20 a month saving when the prices go up, otherwise I would have been gone.

denphone 11-01-2013 21:32

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Quote:

Originally Posted by alwaysabear (Post 35522048)
I have been with VM / Telewest for about 14 years and I have excellent BB, but that is not to say that in the future Sky will not be able to equal or better VM.
To you the Tivo is the deciding factor, but to others content is more important so it is horses for courses Den. I personally have no need for Tivo. I have stayed with VM as I have extracted an overall £20 a month saving when the prices go up, otherwise I would have been gone.

Indeed everybody has their own opinions and thoughts on things and what might be alright for Ben or Rose might not suit Bill or Sue.

mhatter67 11-01-2013 21:35

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I am loving the TiVo app now I have got my homeplug adapters connected, only need now more channels to stream from my iPad:)

RichardCoulter 11-01-2013 22:01

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35521923)
Richard, I am beginning to think you are losing the plot, old chap. I do not have an unhealthy obsession with what you watch on TV.

My point is that you have attempted to discredit Al Jazeera with a comment on its 'subtle bias' and you appear never to have watched the channel. You have not backed up your comment with any credible sources and it just seems to have come out of nowhere, which to me indicates a subtle nationalistic bias on your part.

I don't care that you haven't watched the channel (I don't think you would have been so cagey about the question had you in fact done so - it's a simple yes or no).

I have worked out for myself that your comment was made without your having even watched the channel so we can take your criticism as not having much credibility.

That is all. What a fuss![COLOR="Silver"]

Any "fuss" has been created by yourself.

As previously explained on numerous occasions, I have given all the answers that I am able to, will not be betraying any confidences and see no point in this thread being further disrupted. Repeatedly spamming this thread will not change the position.

Assumptions are never helpful and rarely true.

No-one else appears to have the slightest interest in my either my viewing habits or news sourcing arrangements.

Why?

Because other members have more important things to worry about and the fact that this is a thread devoted to new channels that may be coming to Virgin Media- some respect for the OP wouldn't go amiss.

If you wish to continue discussing Al Jazeera and/or your petty vendetta, I suggest you do so here:

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/11...ng-page-6.html

Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35521950)
What will happen to Virgin Media - do you think Disney see them as an 'Wee Cable operator'?

I wouldn't have thought so :)

Hugh 11-01-2013 22:55

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Richard, until you become a Mod/Admin, please do not give instructions on how/where to post to other CF'ers.

passingbat 11-01-2013 23:48

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Quote:

Originally Posted by toady (Post 35521981)
I'd be very unhappy if I had to pay an extra quid for a channel I'd never watch :mad: Make the channel a subscription by itself and that would satisfy everyone


And what about ESPN being included for free in the XL package? That is a separate subscription on Sky.

You seem to have a very selfish view on what channels should be included in the price.

jj20x 12-01-2013 00:13

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35521500)
I have ask an Insider if BBC One Wales HD will also launch and I got the following back:

29th January apparently.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/blogabout...C-One-Wales-HD

RichardCoulter 12-01-2013 00:18

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35522076)
Richard, until you become a Mod/Admin, please do not give instructions on how/where to post to other CF'ers.

I didn't give any instructions, it was merely a suggestion to help keep this thread free from repetitive clutter that can be legitimately discussed elsewhere, if it needs to be discussed at all.

It can't make interesting reading for others.

There aren't enough hours in a day as it is, so I have no plans to take on any more work :D

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jj20x (Post 35522100)

Interesting :)

toady 12-01-2013 13:35

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Quote:

Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35522092)
And what about ESPN being included for free in the XL package? That is a separate subscription on Sky.

You seem to have a very selfish view on what channels should be included in the price.

Not selfish at all, why would I be willing to pay an extra quid a month for a channel that I'd have no interest in?

robson689 12-01-2013 14:42

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Quote:

Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35522092)
And what about ESPN being included for free in the XL package? That is a separate subscription on Sky.

You seem to have a very selfish view on what channels should be included in the price.

ESPN is already included so no price rise. If VM suddenly started sending letters out that people are going to have to pay another £1 a month on top of their already expensive services people will not be happy. If Sky Atlantic was an optional extra no one could complain. The people who want it would get it and the people who don't want it don't.

OLD BOY 12-01-2013 15:52

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35522064)
Any "fuss" has been created by yourself.

As previously explained on numerous occasions, I have given all the answers that I am able to, will not be betraying any confidences and see no point in this thread being further disrupted. Repeatedly spamming this thread will not change the position.

So you believe that you would be betraying a confidence if you divulged whether you had ever watch Al Jazeera?

I don't know what you're on, but can I have some of it please?

This is not a vendetta, Richard. I was simply testing the legitimacy of your comment on bias. Consider it tested.

spiderplant 12-01-2013 15:54

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Quote:

Originally Posted by robson689 (Post 35522204)
If Sky Atlantic was an optional extra no one could complain.

You obviously haven't spent enough time on this forum :D

RichardCoulter 12-01-2013 16:24

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35522233)
So you believe that you would be betraying a confidence if you divulged whether you had ever watch Al Jazeera?

I don't know what you're on, but can I have some of it please?

This is not a vendetta, Richard. I was simply testing the legitimacy of your comment on bias. Consider it tested.

A) Nope, I just choose not to indulge you.

B) Nobody else seems to care one way or the other about your ongoing obsession. To test this for yourself, I am happy for you to create a poll to ask other members if they have any interest, however slight, in my viewing habits.

muppetman11 12-01-2013 16:26

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Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35522037)
Indeed a lot of what you say is true to a certain extent except that Virgin's broadband will always be comfortably ahead of Sky's no matter what thus also in the TiVo box Virgin has a huge advantage over Sky in regards to having a far superior STB and that is unlikely to change for the forseeable future.

But as always this is subjective each individual has different requirements , for instance I basically want a box what's quick through the menus and records what I ask of it so Sky+HD ticks all those boxes. The STB argument for many is pretty irrelevant as both are exclusive to their respective platform , being a multiroom customer I find VM's MRS offering lacking I'm hoping Sky offer a far more comprehensive channel list on their product.

Hugh 12-01-2013 19:39

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35522242)
A) Nope, I just choose not to indulge you.

B) Nobody else seems to care one way or the other about your ongoing obsession. To test this for yourself, I am happy for you to create a poll to ask other members if they have any interest, however slight, in my viewing habits.

I think we were more interested if you would answer his question (which you didn't...).

Qtx 12-01-2013 20:07

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Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35522037)
Indeed a lot of what you say is true to a certain extent except that Virgin's broadband will always be comfortably ahead of Sky's no matter what thus also in the TiVo box Virgin has a huge advantage over Sky in regards to having a far superior STB and that is unlikely to change for the forseeable future.

Having had broadband from both companies I can confidently say that Virgins broadband is terrible compared to Sky's broadband, so that comment of yours is incorrect. The think broadband graphs in this very forum will backup my own experiences with statistical recorded data.

The Tivo vs Sky Stb box has been debated many times and there seems to be no clear winner. The Tivo has 3 tuners compared to Skys 2 tuners and the Sky box is more responsive/more polished.

So both of your comments regarding Virgin being ahead are very wrong. Sky is miles ahead on broadband and the Stb's are pretty equal on comparison although one can be seen better than the other based on your own uses or views.

denphone 12-01-2013 20:21

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Qtx (Post 35522316)
Having had broadband from both companies I can confidently say that Virgins broadband is terrible compared to Sky's broadband, so that comment of yours is incorrect. The think broadband graphs in this very forum will backup my own experiences with statistical recorded data.

The Tivo vs Sky Stb box has been debated many times and there seems to be no clear winner. The Tivo has 3 tuners compared to Skys 2 tuners and the Sky box is more responsive/more polished.

So both of your comments regarding Virgin being ahead are very wrong. Sky is miles ahead on broadband and the Stb's are pretty equal on comparison although one can be seen better than the other based on your own uses or views.

Oh dear it seems you have borrowed that pair of rose tinted glasses yet again because as l have stated in the past l try to give a balanced view on all things and while Sky have more channels and one or two other useful things in its armoury l think when it comes to broadband Virgin's is quite clearly light years ahead and thats not just me saying that as many others on this forum have already stated their preference for Virgin's fibre optic broadband thus also when it come to STB's whilst Sky's STB does its job only a blind man would come to the belief that it is a match for the TiVo as quite clearly in many peoples minds the TiVo is head and shoulders above Sky's trusty old dinosaur.

Qtx 12-01-2013 20:48

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Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35522324)
Oh dear it seems you have borrowed that pair of rose tinted glasses.

Oh come on, that is the pot calling the kettle black ;)

Like I say, I have been a customer of both companies so have first hand experience. When was the last time you was a sky customer if at all?

Expect to be pulled up on it when nonsense is sprouted :p:

Now back to hugging my 2TB dinosaur which I got to record a programme via my phone while I was out earlier... ;)

mhatter67 12-01-2013 20:56

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Qtx (Post 35522331)
Oh come on, that is the pot calling the kettle black ;)

Like I say, I have been a customer of both companies so have first hand experience. When was the last time you was a sky customer if at all?

Expect to be pulled up on it when nonsense is sprouted :p:

Now back to hugging my 2TB dinosaur which I got to record a programme via my phone while I was out earlier... ;)

What is the price on Sky's 100Mbits broadband tariff, I think I will have some of that;):D

speedski 12-01-2013 20:58

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Qtx (Post 35522316)
Having had broadband from both companies I can confidently say that Virgins broadband is terrible compared to Sky's broadband, so that comment of yours is incorrect. The think broadband graphs in this very forum will backup my own experiences with statistical recorded data.

The Tivo vs Sky Stb box has been debated many times and there seems to be no clear winner. The Tivo has 3 tuners compared to Skys 2 tuners and the Sky box is more responsive/more polished.

So both of your comments regarding Virgin being ahead are very wrong. Sky is miles ahead on broadband and the Stb's are pretty equal on comparison although one can be seen better than the other based on your own uses or views.

What you experience isn't the same for all.

My example: VM where I live 100mb. Sky Where I Live 2.5mb.

Sky are not miles ahead on Broadband.

I have and am still a customer of both.

denphone 12-01-2013 21:00

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Qtx (Post 35522331)
Like I say, I have been a customer of both companies so have first hand experience. When was the last time you was a sky customer if at all?

Expect to be pulled up on it when nonsense is sprouted :p:

Now back to hugging my 2TB dinosaur...

Actually l have had experience of Sky's broadband and STB and to say l was unimpressed would be calling it a understatement as their broadband speeds were as bad as the old dial up and their STB was dinstinctly old hat compared to the new kid on the block as recent sales have shown increasingly.:)

As for nonsense well l will leave that to others to make up their own mind but rest assured they are a intelligent lot who don't follow the sheep following sheep mentality.:)

Qtx 12-01-2013 21:14

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mhatter67 (Post 35522341)
What is the price on Sky's 100Mbits broadband tariff, I think I will have some of that;):D

What leads you to think that top speed is in indication of how good an ISP's broadband is?

Rhetorical questions ftw!

You cannot call an ISP's broadband ahead of the competition if it is no good for gaming, streaming video, VOIP calls etc. Speed is such a small part of the equation.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by speedski (Post 35522344)
What you experience isn't the same for all.

My example: VM where I live 100mb. Sky Where I Live 2.5mb.

Sky are not miles ahead on Broadband.

I have and am still a customer of both.

Virgin would give the same speed as Sky in an adsl only area. As I said its not all about speed. Who really needs above 40Mbit?

Sky fibre has no traffic shaping or slowing down of your connection when you hit limits at different parts of the day yet still does not have congestion problems like Virgin do with all of that. Comparing the networks is like apples and oranges so anyone saying Virgin is better is talking nonsense.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35522345)
Actually l have had experience of Sky's broadband and STB and to say l was unimpressed would be calling it a understatement as their broadband speeds were as bad as the old dial up and their STB was dinstinctly old hat compared to the new kid on the block as recent sales have shown increasingly.:)

So you have never been a customer of Sky and once saw it down a friends house? Very sneaky answer but confirms what I thought, you have no clue how they compare really but still insist on saying one is better due to...those rose coloured specs ;)

Again, have you been a customer of SKy recently? Have you owned and used for any amount of time their STB box such as the 2TB one I use? Have you used SKy fibre broadband ever?

I think the answer is No to all of those, so strop pretending eh? ;)

denphone 12-01-2013 21:26

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Qtx (Post 35522349)
So you have never been a customer of Sky and once saw it down a friends house? Very sneaky answer but confirms what I thought, you have no clue how they compare really but still insist on saying one is better due to...those rose coloured specs ;)

Again, have you been a customer of SKy recently? Have you owned and used for any amount of time their STB box such as the 2TB one I use? Have you used SKy fibre broadband ever?

I think the answer is No to all of those, so strop pretending eh? ;)

Actually l use it quite a lot when l go down my familys house so l have more then enough experience of what it is exactly like and yes l am very happy with my opticians as they provide me with clear and clean glasses which l can see perfectly out of even when l am surrounded by those pesky rose tinted lot who aim to serve only their master.:)

tricol 12-01-2013 22:12

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I've used both and Sky is much better than Tivo for BBC iPlayer as it first downloads the programme instead of streaming it so making it much better at FF and REW etc. The old V+ boxes are also better in that respect.
Sky has a much slicker and easier to navigate 'planner' (My Shows) interface with category groups such as News, Sports, Kids, Documentaries,A-Z being automatically assigned to recordings rather than lumping them all together as TiVo does.
They both have pros and cons, TiVo's main advantage being the 3 tuners if just used as a PVR but the convuluted menus and clumsy interfaces let it down along with it's BBC catch-up implementation.

harry_hitch 12-01-2013 22:52

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I guess it depends on the areas people live in. Where I currently live, I have never known a better broadand connection/service. Hardly any buffering and constantly fast speeds. Tv service is excellent and I rarely have any issues. Even IPlayer is working better now, since the last app update. 10 miles away in the village I used to live in, though, Sky/BT were shocking. Awful internet speeds, plenty of buffering and the Sky TV signal was pretty poor when it rained and/or got very windy. (May have been the dish, but when we phoned about it, was told the dish was good, apparently.) My parents though - live 10 miles in another direction (from my current location) and they hardly have any issues with Sky TV, but will not go to Sky/BT for their internet and use VM. I doubt I would rejoin Sky, given the option, but that is mainly because I am a huge fan of TIVO (even though it is noticeably slower than my parents Sky HD box) due to wishlists, the 8 second skip back feature - something I wish me blu-ray player had - and to a lesser degree, the suggestions feature. Also because I am not too fussed about Sky Atlantic.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Qtx (Post 35522349)
Sky fibre has no traffic shaping or slowing down of your connection when you hit limits at different parts of the day yet still does not have congestion problems like Virgin do with all of that. Comparing the networks is like apples and oranges so anyone saying Virgin is better is talking nonsense.

BIBAnd yet, you have done just that in a previous post.:rolleyes::confused:

As stated above I have used both, and will resist the urge to say that you are talking non-sense.:)

passingbat 12-01-2013 23:42

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Qtx (Post 35522349)
What leads you to think that top speed is in indication of how good an ISP's broadband is?

Rhetorical questions ftw!

You cannot call an ISP's broadband ahead of the competition if it is no good for gaming, streaming video, VOIP calls etc. Speed is such a small part of the equation.

In the last couple of weeks, when the US shows have been on winter break, I've hardly watched anything off Tivo; almost all my viewing has been from Netflix. So I've been streaming massive amounts of video content recently and my 20meg VM connection has been faultless.

nicknewark 12-01-2013 23:52

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Same here, just watched the second series of game of thrones via blinkbox, via vm broadband, perfect.

Lew 13-01-2013 00:47

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Just watched The Dark Knight Rises on the VOD service on my Sony Blu-ray player in HD and it was also faultless.

Qtx 13-01-2013 00:56

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Saying that video streaming is working ok for you at the moment proves nothing of value. It is known that VM has more than its fair share of streaming video issues, either by not having enough enough peering bandwidth or by local utilisation issues. Look at how long it took them to resolve the youtube streaming issues at the end of last year for example. The virgin fan clun cxan't deny that one ;)

Again goes to show how bad virgins network is compared to sky.

HDFootyMan 13-01-2013 01:20

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Qtx (Post 35522411)
Saying that video streaming is working ok for you at the moment proves nothing of value. It is known that VM has more than its fair share of streaming video issues, either by not having enough enough peering bandwidth or by local utilisation issues. Look at how long it took them to resolve the youtube streaming issues at the end of last year for example. The virgin fan clun cxan't deny that one ;)

Again goes to show how bad virgins network is compared to sky.

Well......that settles that then.

passingbat 13-01-2013 01:36

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Qtx (Post 35522411)
Saying that video streaming is working ok for you at the moment proves nothing of value. It is known that VM has more than its fair share of streaming video issues, either by not having enough enough peering bandwidth or by local utilisation issues. Look at how long it took them to resolve the youtube streaming issues at the end of last year for example. The virgin fan clun cxan't deny that one ;)

Again goes to show how bad virgins network is compared to sky.

Well, I've had netflix since the first week it launched, around a year ago, and never had problems streaming HD versions of their content.

Plus VM are one of the ISPs that have signed up to netflix's new CDN, which will give even better quality streaming.

http://support.netflix.com/en/node/8731#gsc.tab=0

RichardCoulter 13-01-2013 05:21

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35522308)
I think we were more interested if you would answer his question (which you didn't...).

By "we", I suspect you mean a grand total of two. I'm pretty confident that most people couldn't care less about your obsession with my viewing habits and find your interjections disruptive to the ongoing discussion about Virgin Media Television.

In common with other members, I am not obliged to provide any information that I do not wish to share- i'm truly amazed that it's taken so long to sink in.

Out of respect for the majority of the participants in this thread, i'm now going to draw a line under this.

Look, it's here:

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muppetman11 13-01-2013 11:20

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Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35522413)
Plus VM are one of the ISPs that have signed up to netflix's new CDN, which will give even better quality streaming.

I take it your referring to the titles which list as Super HD ? This appears to work on my PS3 and I'm on Sky BB it also works with quite a few other ISP's I believe.

andy_m 13-01-2013 11:56

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35522416)
By "we", I suspect you mean a grand total of two. I'm pretty confident that most people couldn't care less about your obsession with my viewing habits and find your interjections disruptive to the ongoing discussion about Virgin Media Television.

In common with other members, I am not obliged to provide any information that I do not wish to share- i'm truly amazed that it's taken so long to sink in.

Out of respect for the majority of the participants in this thread, i'm now going to draw a line under this.

Look, it's here:

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I'm not interested in your viewing habits. I am interested in your continued ducking of the question, and I suspect that interest extends to more than two people. If, in fact, you have said that Al Jazeera has a bias, but have actually never seen the channel, then perhaps you should be prepared to accept that your opinion of its output is based on little factual evidence and as a result, opinion or no, isn't really valid?

My opinion of the BBC is that it is institutionally biased and that this is reflected in its news output. I have watched and listened to the BBC's news output and base my opinion of it on what I have seen and heard. I suspect that the fact that the first "B" stands for "British" whilst you mentally associate Al Jazeera with global Jihad is the basis for your opinion.

nn012 13-01-2013 12:22

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35522467)
I take it your referring to the titles which list as Super HD ? This appears to work on my PS3 and I'm on Sky BB it also works with quite a few other ISP's I believe.

That's why the poster said VM were one of the ISPs who have signed up to Netflix CDN :rolleyes:

FWIW When people were reporting streaming problems on YouTube/ HD I never saw any problems myself and I'm yet to get my double speed upgrade.

muppetman11 13-01-2013 12:30

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Originally Posted by nn012 (Post 35522485)
That's why the poster said VM were one of the ISPs who have signed up to Netflix CDN :rolleyes:

FWIW When people were reporting streaming problems on YouTube/ HD I never saw any problems myself and I'm yet to get my double speed upgrade.

Sky wasn't listed on the list though and many of the websites reporting this feature only made mention to BT and VM.

Aim your post at the right person , I haven't mentioned anything about VM's streaming quality in this thread , personally I'm not bothered about your YT streaming experience.:rolleyes:

RichardCoulter 13-01-2013 12:33

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Originally Posted by andy_m (Post 35522480)
I'm not interested in your viewing habits. I am interested in your continued ducking of the question, and I suspect that interest extends to more than two people. If, in fact, you have said that Al Jazeera has a bias, but have actually never seen the channel, then perhaps you should be prepared to accept that your opinion of its output is based on little factual evidence and as a result, opinion or no, isn't really valid?

My opinion of the BBC is that it is institutionally biased and that this is reflected in its news output. I have watched and listened to the BBC's news output and base my opinion of it on what I have seen and heard. I suspect that the fact that the first "B" stands for "British" whilst you mentally associate Al Jazeera with global Jihad is the basis for your opinion.

- Making the sum total increase to 3, out of all the people registered on this forum, will not be making any difference to what has previously been stated.

- Being aware that I have attempted to draw a line under this, being aware that a more suitable thread exists to discuss such matters and being aware that this thread is primarily for the discussion of possible channel additions to the Virgin Media TV service leads me to believe that you are being deliberately vexatious.

nn012 13-01-2013 12:42

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35522488)
Sky wasn't listed on the list though and many of the websites reporting this feature only made mention to BT and VM.

Aim your post at the right person , I haven't mentioned anything about VM's streaming quality in this thread , personally I'm not bothered about your YT streaming experience.:rolleyes:

It wasn't aimed at you hence the space between the 2 sentences. What list? There were no lists in the link posted by the poster which mention BT and VM :rolleyes:

andy_m 13-01-2013 13:12

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35522491)
- Making the sum total increase to 3, out of all the people registered on this forum, will not be making any difference to what has previously been stated.

- Being aware that I have attempted to draw a line under this, being aware that a more suitable thread exists to discuss such matters and being aware that this thread is primarily for the discussion of possible channel additions to the Virgin Media TV service leads me to believe that you are being deliberately vexatious.

Not at all. On that other thread you have told somebody that their opinion is invalid because it's based on incorrect information or without full knowledge of the facts. Here you have said that your opinion of Al Jazeera is that its news output is biased. You are entitled to that opinion, but it's not unreasonable to test the validity of your opinion to the same standard that you expect of others, and yet when asked whether or not you yourself have any have any knowledge on which to base your opinion you have continually dodged the question. Hypocrite.

howardmicks 13-01-2013 13:24

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What the hell as all this got to do with coming soon to virgin media tv,really shows how bad things have got when this forum topic is full of sky bb is better than vm bb,personally at the minute I think vm is better for broadband and sky millions light years ahead on tv and will always be.As for TiVo and sky hd box debate the TiVo tech is superb but sky big advantage I personally think is the vastly superior dynamic TV guide constantly updated and provided for free whilst we get charged £3/£5 (still trying to work out what the hell for),can we please now get back to dreaming about new channels and vm actually getting off there arses and actually acquiring some to justify the price increase next month:banghead:

Media Boy UK 13-01-2013 13:41

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Originally Posted by kenjardine (Post 35522036)
any chance of ivestigation discovery,mb

No list of names of channels set to launch - My insider will not give them out until 'Next Week'.

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Rumours:

Here is the latest rumours from Digital Spy:

Quote:

When added on VM:
TCM HD will be on 416
TCM2, 417
More4+1, 196
CN HD 732
Virgin Media CS told someone on DS Forum that SyFy is moving to the M+ Pack as early as Monday.

For the latest news go to Digital Spy Forum.


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