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OK - so you can burn it to a USB stick / DVD and do a complete install like previous OSs - good.
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these are upgrades so you have to have windows installed. All options no matter how you install ie off cd usb or direct you get the option to copy nothing giving you a clean install
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Ohhh....so you can't provide the original qualifying media when prompted like previous versions?
Guess I need a full copy for that - I ain't paying any more than £30 for a full copy though...Microsoft can go do one. |
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Ah sorry I just re-read #204 and I get what you mean now. Lol. So basically the install of 7 is the qualifier for deleting and getting a fresh install go 8 anyway. Correct?
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The upgrade assistant isn't working for me. I download then run it, it says it's checking compatibility etc then it comes back with an internal error saying there was an error retrieving the scan report.
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Microsoft: Four million Windows 8 upgrades so far
Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer has confirmed here at the BUILD 2012 developer keynote that since Friday, the official launch of Windows 8, the company has already sold four million Windows 8 software upgrades. That's certainly not a bad start for Windows 8 but at the same time, most people will likely still stick with their current Windows OS and wait to buy a new PC to get Windows 8. On that front, Ballmer says that sales of Windows 8 products are good so far. http://www.neowin.net/news/microsoft...pgrades-so-far |
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Does the copy of W7 you have installed and are upgrading need to be activated before you start the upgrade?
Also - what's the best image creation programme for creating a backup partition image if you want to roll back to W7? |
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I got around my issue by formatting and installing 7 then buying 8 straight away. It downloaded and installed ok but if I have to reformat in the future can I download it again and burn to DVD?
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There must be away of downloading officially, just don't lose the key for it.
You could make an image of it now though, this would mean you wouldn't have to install Windows 7 again. |
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I had major problems upgrading from Windows 7 with the option of keeping all files and settings.
It kept crashing and re-starting, then it got stuck in a self repair loop and finally it just displayed the lock screen and didn't do anything else. I formatted and re-installed and i'm now running without issues. :) |
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Failing that there's an Indy computer shop near me that gives out copies of Vista, 7 etc burnt to DVD for people with a legit serial key but no disk. If he knows them as good customers he lets them have a copy (he's done it for me with my old Vista and 7) so I might have see if he can sort out an 8 disk. So just to clarify for future reference (and assuming I get an 8 disk from somewhere, if I need to format in future will I need to install 7 then put 8 right on top with the 'do not keep anything' option? |
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Well that didn't last long :shocked:
Windows 8 was really growing on me and I was happy with the purchase I made on Friday.....until this morning. Went to open Chrome and got no response, went into task manager to shut "chrome.exe" down got an "access denied" error so I re-started via the power options. Since then (about 4 hours ago) it has been stuck in a boot loop which consists of the following steps 1) Attempt to boot for about 2 minutes 2) Show a blue screen with a message like "There was a problem and your computer needs to re-start" for < 1 second i.e. so short that I can't actually read the message no matter how often I try. 3) Restart goes into Preparing Automatic Repair mode which appears to do nothing for about 2 minutes 4) then a blank sceen appears for about 1 minute 5) back to step 1 I guess I'll try and get my £25 back from Microsoft and throw a copy of Ubuntu on which is a shame as I really liked a lot about Windows 8 and it made a huge difference to my laptop's power consumption. |
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OK - bitten the bullet...£24 and it's downloading....anybody know where it's downloaded to so I can copy the source files (iso?) for a backup to save downloading it again??
Ahh - might have found it - is this the correct place? C:\Users\<username>\AppData\Local\Microsoft\WebSet up |
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After 15 years of backing up, being careful and creating tiers of redundancy I let my gaurd slip due to impatience on Friday. Thankfully I was able to install Ubuntu to overwrite my corrupted Windows 8 install (and also prove that it's not my disk that's in a bad way) so I have a laptop to use until I can get Windows 8 back up. I really was that impressed by how little power it used and how quick it woke from sleep. The Microsoft Techs tried their best by leading me through the steps to downloading windows 8 on my spare XP machine. However on that machine I do not get the option to create a bootable device. I don't know if this is because I have already downloaded it or because XP doesn't support creating a USB device somehow. |
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Can I just ask what security software people are using? I used MS Security Essentials, and was told that it won't work with Windows 8. I couldn't use Avast or AVG, and McAfee tended to slow my laptop down to a crawl.
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Just a warning, if you happen to have a 32-bit OS installed it will automatically download/upgrade a 32-bit OS, if you want to install the 64-bit version you can use the same key but will have to get your hands on an x64 disc as it doesn't give you the option on the download.
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Actually, I don't think I have an AV installled. I should install one.
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Just checked my System Info, and I am running a 64 bit Windows 8 OS, so obviously you do get a downloaded 64 bit Windows.
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No different from every other version of windows ever that has come in 32-bit and 64-bit options...
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Does anyone know if its possible to uninstall Win 8 Pro and go back to Win 7? Did upgrade and the computer has the windows.old folder there but cant find an option to uninstall or rollback to prev OS.
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Update: I contacted support this evening and a very helpful tech installed a repair tool that fixed my activation automatically so I am fully up and running now. Good job by the tech. Just hope windows 8 doesn't fall on it's posterior again.
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My problems are with gaming and in particular Cod 4, windows 8 will not run it without crashing. There is a interaction between punk buster and windows 8 |
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I count myself as pretty lucky as I've never had any problems with any operating systems other than Vista. Although I only ever had MS-DOS (5 and 6), Windows 98, XP, Linux, Vista and now Windows 8. |
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Never mind, managed to setup a local account which shows my name.
I'm glad I decided to go for it at £15, the preview I used was not as good as what I am using now. Loaded my start screen up with loads of apps, all free of course, and am enjoying it. Will gladly say I was wrong about it, and would urge everyone to upgrade to Windows 8. I'm a proud convert. |
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Got two copies of 8 Pro in the end, can't really say no for £25 per copy, heh
Took some getting used to, but it's basically Windows 7 with a new UI slapped on it for touch/gesture screens. After installing the Classic Startmenu addon (freeware, yay) and putting back the quick launch bar, I feel right at home It's definitely faster than Windows 7, on startup and shutdown. I'm growing to like it (minus the stupid Metro thing, which thankfully, I no longer have to see or use) |
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I will get 2 copies for £14.99 when i get around to buying a SSD.
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I think had MS not done that offer of £15 for those who had bought a new Windows 7 PC I might not have taken the plunge and bought it. I actually quite like the metro screen, I have quite a few useful apps pinned there which keep me up to date with a lot of news and weather.
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Still a bargain for £25 i think while it is on offer, and i can still go back to Windows 7 if i don't get on with it. :)
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I installed Win 8 this weekend, along with a new SSD. There were confilcting reports as to whether I could do a clean install on a blank drive but I guess the install picked up that I had Vista on my existing drive and all went well - to a point....
On reboot, I found I had a dual boot machine with options for Vista and Win 8. Obviously I went for Win 8 and I then got a boot error. I rebooted to the DVD and selected the 'Repair' option and it fixed things perfectly! All in all, I am very happy with Win 8. There is a bit of a learning coruve with the Metro interface but I am growing to like it. I have moved things around and added new tiles so it's now set up as I like it. One thing I didn't realise is how connected Win 8 is. I use an Android phone and tablet and love the integration of Facebook, Twitter, LinkedIn, etc. I now find that Win 8 can do the same. The setup isn't as simple as Android as I don't use Hotmail/Outlook.com as my mail provider but use Google of course but once I got there, it worked (big stumbling block was that I didin't realise the Charm bar was app context specific - obvious really!) My start page now has my VM mail, Facebook and LinkedIn contacts and my work calendar synced from Outlook using Google Calendar Sync. I can't quite get appointments I set up on my Win 8 calendar into my Google and then Outlook calendar but I'm working on it! All in all, very pleased with the speed and look of the system. Based on what I've seen, I would seriously consider getting a Surface tablet to replace my Android one in the future. Yes, I guess that was Microsofts plan all along... |
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Windows 8 is quite a bit different to Windows 7. Even if they hadn't introduced a new UI there would be many changes that would make the upgrade worthwhile. My answer to your question is that if someone decides to use the old style Start Menu that are still benefiting from many of the Windows 8 improvements. |
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Windows has touch screen techology. Most PC screens are soft and spongy are prone to finger nail damage me thinks.
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Windows 8 is certainly a very different OS from any I have previously used. I have never been in a position where I have had to re-install an OS twice in less than 2 weeks because of the OS crashing beyond repair.
It would appear that Windows 8 does not like restarting on my laptop. It was happy to shutdown/boot up and go to sleep/wake up but I tried a restart last night to try and solve playback issues with TV Anywhere and BOOM! Same problem as I had last week i.e. Windows encounters problem, automatic repair kicks in and then crashes, Windows tries to start, Windows encounters problem, automatic repair starts then crashes......ad infinitum. I am now in a quandary as to whether I should seek a refund or re-install for the 2nd time (and get support to activate my copy for a 2nd time) and hope that a service pack fixes this problem...and of course be careful not to restart. However I wouldn't be keen to find out after my refund period that this problem gets worse and that there is no point re-installing Windows 8 again and again. In which case I'd in effect have paid £24.99 to upgrade from Vista to Ubuntu which would make me unique at best. But I'm keen to have a Windows OS on my laptop......perhaps Microsoft will give me a refund but let me keep my activated copy on the basis that it is a bit flaky and that I could give their developers some help in diagnosing the compatibility issue with my machine. As it's a Dell Inspiron it's not exactly a bespoke, niche market product so they may be keen to figure out what's going on. |
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Another Usuability expert giving Windows 8 a pasting. http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/11...isappointment/
I've had Windows 8 as the OS on my home PC since release. While my attitude to the UI has softened somewhat, I still think Microsoft's strategy of one size fits all for interfaces is wrong, and may ultimately sink the company. It's a shame really, as the OS itself seems good, possibly better than Windows 7. |
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The New UI is not a good enough reason to slate windows 8 any "expert" who uses this as their only reason isn't |
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sawn timber?? as I pointed out ages ago everything is easy to get to and only takes a few clicks to get to everything you need. On one of the posts refference to CP in XP was made well that changed in Vista but only until you make a few clicks to change it. These people are accessing all these programs from the New UI and not from elsewhere in windows . My control Panel is pretty much the same as it was without a skin and everything is there pretty much as it was through run commands in windows the skin and start menu just makes it easier to access. Lots of the much hated vista looked different to XP and a lot of these changes were kept in Windows 7 but everyone loves that. New UI to kill MS is codswhollop |
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For anyone wanting to play games on this operating system i suggest you read this thread and the ongoing problems getting Cod4 and punk buster working on Windows 8 :LOL:
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Hmm...had 8 running for about a month now and I'm still not convinced. There's nothing really wrong with it and I do like the Metro thing however there aren't any apps available that I can't get and wouldn't use on my phone which of course is more convenient.
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Has anyone else here had their Windows 7 key killed? As the only reason i was getting Windows 8 is that i could go back to 7 if i wanted to.
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my ghosted install of win 7 can be reaplied and upgraded as I have done it 3 times.
I gave you a solution ages ago ;) |
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What version of Windows 7 do you need a key for Sirius? I can send you a key for W7 Home Premium if that is any good to you?
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You know i feel they are doing this because they have not sold as many copies as they wanted to. Thanks for the offer Mark :tu: |
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No worries, I know for a fact I will not be going back to Windows 7, but only because the software, games and programs I want to use most are compatible with Windows 8. Can imagine it is pretty galling for those whose software, games and programs aren't compatible.
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The wait a year is a good idea for those who lose their rag when things do not go right ;) My old man is worse than you I have told him he is not having it lol . All new OS's have teathing problems XP needed 2 service packs before it become the much loved OS that it did |
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I found that and it does give you an arguement but the EULA makes it clear though and you did agree to it. You know me I am no fan of how M$ licence their software. You pay for it but its never yours. I hate it its capitalism to the core so I do not tend to pay for OS's and screw them but your wasting money on calls and getting yourself stressed without need
And dude when you ever given a toss about copyright lol lol |
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So what if I'm installing it on a machine that had 7 pre-installed? My computer was only switched on for about 3 minutes before I put 8 on it and now I've gone back to 7, everything is working fine. So if I went back to 8 again then returned to 7 in the future what is likely to happen?
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When I installed 8 I selected the 'keep nothing' option but when it started up for the first time it had the 'Build 9200' message in the bottom corner even though I'd entered my serial ok. Turns out I'd reached my 'install limit' or whatever for that key so I had to activate by phone which worked but was a pain in the b'tox. |
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I will probably do Tiz work around before the £15 deal expires though. |
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