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Derek 24-11-2012 19:07

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Originally Posted by LondonRoad (Post 35501247)
Are you really that delusional Derek or do you only get your information from the mainstream media?

Not read the report I see;)

Actually I've read pretty much most of it. Unlike the Rangers Tax Case blogger who, inbetween deleting most of the posts now he's realised a knock on the door early one Friday is likely, skipped to the end and proclaimed loudly that Rangers had been found guilty on all charges only to realise that once again he had made himself look foolish.

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Originally Posted by Henkesghost (Post 35501487)
Nae Green Brigade today :( better look out ma song sheet

Not that many other fans either :D On the brightside my fellow officers will have had a much quieter shift than usual without them being in the naughty corner.

Amazing how every other team in Scotland can bring up their attendance figures you when celtic are playing in front of the green seats the attendance gets sneaked out a few days later once another 10k or so are added to it.

On the bright side only 20,000 or so of 'The greatest fans in the world' :rolleyes: saw their team get pumped by Inverness Caley today.

Just a pity Rangers aren't playing this weekend as they are so popular games get sold out way beyond capacity. :)

Henkesghost 24-11-2012 20:03

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20,000 aye right ya numpty. You say your an officer? Police? With the thinly veiled bigotry you display on here I find that disturbing but sadly not surprising. You are a joke.

Derek 24-11-2012 20:32

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Originally Posted by Henkesghost (Post 35501684)
20,000 aye right ya numpty. You say your an officer? Police?

10 points for Mr ghost. Whilst I obviously wasn't at the game I was listening in to various commentary streams this afternoon. The phrases 'half-full' was mentioned more than once and in the STV match report you can find this little gem.

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The absence of the Green Brigade - the vociferous and occasionally controversial section of the Hoops support who were boycotting the match after claiming they had been subject to "oppressive police tactics" in recent months - deadened the atmosphere further in a half-filled stadium.
I see now the official attendance is over 44,000. At least losing to ICT hasn't affected their sense of humour. :D

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Originally Posted by Henkesghost (Post 35501684)
With the thinly veiled bigotry you display on here I find that disturbing but sadly not surprising. You are a joke.

I do find humour quite easy, especially when it comes to mocking celtic but I always like an easy target.

And a bigot? Yeah right. :rolleyes:

Henkesghost 24-11-2012 21:05

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[QUOTE=Derek;35501701]10 points for Mr ghost. Whilst I obviously wasn't at the game I was listening in to various commentary streams this afternoon. The phrases 'half-full' was mentioned more than once and in the STV match report you can find this little gem.



I see now the official attendance is over 44,000. At least losing to ICT hasn't affected their sense of humour. :D



I do find humour quite easy, especially when it comes to mocking celtic but I always like an easy target.

Hilarious. An easy target? Celtic ha ha you are truly insane. Let's look at this Celtic, champions, top of the league, in Champions league, guaranteed Europe after Christmas, in one Cup Semi final, multi million pound rated players. Who is it you support, well after your club died which was hilarious you support a team in the lowest division in Scotland, hilarious. they lost to the worst side in Scotland, hilarious, out of two cup competitions one to a wee diddy team that I can't even remember, hilarious, banned from Europe for 3 years not that you'd get close to it anyway, hilarious, banned from signing players, hilarious. Watching Kevin Kyle, hilarious, more disciplinary cases hanging over you, hilarious, an owner that is ripping it out of you. Now there's an easy joke for you

Derek 24-11-2012 21:24

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Originally Posted by Henkesghost (Post 35501713)
Let's look at this Celtic, *tainted* champions,
*snip*
Now there's an easy joke for you

There you go. I fixed that for you. :D

I see you are taking the result well. Almost as well as your manager who showed his class again having a shouting match with a fan good enough to actually turn up.

http://nfs.stvfiles.com/imagebase/17...celtic-fan.jpg

Henkesghost 24-11-2012 21:30

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Aye good comeback, and that's the hilarious part that is the best you got. Look let's talk in 3 or 4 years time if your team lives that long and is somewhere on our radar. G'd night

LondonRoad 24-11-2012 22:34

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Originally Posted by Derek (Post 35501701)
And a bigot? Yeah right. :rolleyes:

It depends how you define bigot. I'd define a bigot is a person who is intolerantly devoted to his own opinions and prejudices and regards or treats a group with hatred and/or intolerance. Coupled with this bigots refuse to take on board any fact that doesn't fit in with their own narrow minded agenda

If you reread some of your postings in this thread you'll see you tick most of the boxes for being considered bigotted.

You actually come across as being anti-Celtic than pro-Rangers. Your IQ seems to drop considerably with your pathetic attempts at slagging all things Celtic. Do they not ask basic arithmetic questions to be a beat bobby?

Example Question
A football Stadium with a capacity of 60,000 is described as being half empty. How many people are attending the match.

20,000 Deek? You're showing yourself up again. :D

My 7 year old got closer than one of Strathclyde's finest:erm:

Chris 25-11-2012 00:20

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Right, I've had enough. The banter in here has been right on the edge for weeks now but frankly it is turning extremely nasty and I think ALL of you need to reacquaint yourselves with the forum rules.

There are forums out there where they tolerate this nonsense but this is not one of them. If you can't carry on a civil conversation about Scottish football then I will be closing this thread and hefting the frack hammer.

Chad 25-11-2012 11:27

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The race for the first division title is warming up nicely. Both Partick thistle and Dunfermline level on points with just over a third of the season played. Partick play Dunermline next Saturday in the Scottish Cup, should be a good tie.

2 weeks ago it was reported in The Courier that Dunfermline owed £81,000 to HMRC. In October some players and staff didn't get paid on time. Does anyone know anymore about this?

LondonRoad 25-11-2012 11:42

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Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35501840)
The race for the first division title is warming up nicely. Both Partick thistle and Dunfermline level on points with just over a third of the season played. Partick play Dunermline next Saturday in the Scottish Cup, should be a good tie.

2 weeks ago it was reported in The Courier that Dunfermline owed £81,000 to HMRC. In October some players and staff didn't get paid on time. Does anyone know anymore about this?

It looks like the threat of administration has been removed in the short term but obviously there are still problems.

http://www.thecourier.co.uk/Sport/Fo...with-hmrc.html

I saw the jags earlier in the season and they're playing some nice football. Ironically the day I saw them they got beat but it was one of those games that turned on a sending off.

It should be an interesting game next week.

colin25 25-11-2012 13:01

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Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35501840)
The race for the first division title is warming up nicely. Both Partick thistle and Dunfermline level on points with just over a third of the season played. Partick play Dunermline next Saturday in the Scottish Cup, should be a good tie.

2 weeks ago it was reported in The Courier that Dunfermline owed £81,000 to HMRC. In October some players and staff didn't get paid on time. Does anyone know anymore about this?

You are correct.

I suspect discussions are still ongoing. Often it is a balance between HMRC wanting money now, and sensitivity of pushing a club under. I think dunfermline will be walking a tight rope for awhile, as if they don't solve the cash imbalance, HMRC will eventually say enough is enough and put them into receivership.

Just another sad story of a club living beyond its means. My own view, you pay your bills, or you take consequences. Same as my own life.

Chad 25-11-2012 13:09

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Originally Posted by LondonRoad (Post 35501843)
I saw the jags earlier in the season and they're playing some nice football. Ironically the day I saw them they got beat but it was one of those games that turned on a sending off.

It should be an interesting game next week.

Jackie McNamara and Simon Donnelly are doing a great job. 9 years out of the SPL, would be good to see them back.

Henkesghost 25-11-2012 13:27

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Would be good to see Thistle back in the SPL. Remember Sid getting into the Celtic side and being hailed as the new Dalglish :D God I'm getting old :(

Henkesghost 29-11-2012 10:40

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Much much better last night. That's what we are capable of. Now rest most against Arbroath and on to the big one on Wednesday:hyper:

Big Forster:nworthy:

LondonRoad 04-12-2012 15:26

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HMRC to appeal the Big Tax Case.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotlan...-west-20597808

colin25 04-12-2012 16:56

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Originally Posted by LondonRoad (Post 35506557)

It is telling, that one of the people who benefitted from the "loans", when asked, will you pay the loan back..said "that is between me and the club".

This is blantantly used to circumvent legimate taxes. Whilst cheating is the norm for some, I find it distasteful. i pay taxes, why should others cheat.

And they have cheek to complain about benefit cheats...I find this cheating worse.

LondonRoad 05-12-2012 09:05

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The Rangers are aiming for more world records:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/20595802

Lowest number of fans travelling to an away fixture ;)
There's the possibility of most charges of bringing the game into disrepute too. :D

Henkesghost 05-12-2012 18:43

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Heading 2 paradise soon wi babyghost x Hope Rod's greetin wi joy again :D

colin25 05-12-2012 19:02

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I hope Celtic get the result they want, even if it is just Benfica losing :)

Henkesghost 06-12-2012 06:51

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Amazing night, still wasted, great atmosphere. Isn't Armageddon wonderful :D

denphone 06-12-2012 07:04

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Originally Posted by Henkesghost (Post 35507582)
Amazing night, still wasted, great atmosphere. Isn't Armageddon wonderful :D

Well done to Celtic Henke and good luck for the knockout stages.

Henkesghost 06-12-2012 08:25

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35507584)
Well done to Celtic Henke and good luck for the knockout stages.


Aw cheers Den, in work but still smiling. Good luck to the scousers too :)

denphone 06-12-2012 08:57

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Originally Posted by Henkesghost (Post 35507588)
Aw cheers Den, in work but still smiling. Good luck to the scousers too :)

Yes nice win tonight will suffice.:)

Henkesghost 06-12-2012 09:40

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35507593)
Yes nice win tonight will suffice.:)


Think it's ok to have Liverpool chat on the Scottish football forum, yer just Glaswegians wi yer brains kicked in :D

denphone 06-12-2012 09:58

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Originally Posted by Henkesghost (Post 35507599)
Think it's ok to have Liverpool chat on the Scottish football forum, yer just Glaswegians wi yer brains kicked in :D

Remember the Liverpool of the past always had a big yin influence.:D

Chad 06-12-2012 20:37

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35507601)
Remember the Liverpool of the past always had a big yin influence.:D

They still do. My Mum's side of the family come from Huyton. My brother is a massive Liverpool fan. He drives 500 miles once a month, from here to Anfield and back to catch games. I've been a few times, great atmosphere. Still today there are fans in the stands with King Kenny flags and Souness on their tops. Wonder city, wonder people, wonderful club.

denphone 08-12-2012 15:19

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Originally Posted by Henkesghost (Post 35507588)
Aw cheers Den, in work but still smiling. Good luck to the scousers too :)

Another good win by the Hoops today Henke.

Chad 08-12-2012 16:20

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Originally Posted by LondonRoad (Post 35500195)
Traynor has been Murray's mouthpiece for years.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/20652118

Blue nose through and through :D

LondonRoad 08-12-2012 17:13

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Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35508603)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/20652118

Blue nose through and through :D

Food bill will go through the roof.

I wonder why this new club The Rangers have to pay Jabba Traynor when he provided the PR for the dead club for free.:confused:

Something to do with the flotation perhaps?

The prospectus is a fantastic work of fiction but rather lengthy.


https://www.rangersshareoffer.com/Prospectus.pdf

Perhaps Traynor is required to get the message across in simpler language.. "Hand over your £500 and you'll own the holding company who own the club" Don't be asking questions about who owns the ground or the training facilities. Don't be asking questions of how much Chucky Green is making out of screwing you all. That's not important just gies yir money.

Henkesghost 08-12-2012 18:06

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35508574)
Another good win by the Hoops today Henke.

Sammy's goal was a peach.

denphone 08-12-2012 18:12

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Originally Posted by Henkesghost (Post 35508681)
Sammy's goal was a peach.

Indeed it was Henke.:)

LondonRoad 08-12-2012 18:17

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Originally Posted by Henkesghost (Post 35508681)
Sammy's goal was a peach.

Broony and Wanyama looked total class too.

Happy Days ;)

Who do you fancy in the CL draw and who'd you like to avoid?

Personally I'd rather avoid Man Utd. Mainly because we've already played them a couple of times. There's no easy fixtures but I wouldn't mind PSG or Schalke.

I don't think anybody will look forward to visiting Paradise.:D

Henkesghost 08-12-2012 20:15

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Originally Posted by LondonRoad (Post 35508688)
Broony and Wanyama looked total class too.

Happy Days ;)

Who do you fancy in the CL draw and who'd you like to avoid?

Personally I'd rather avoid Man Utd. Mainly because we've already played them a couple of times. There's no easy fixtures but I wouldn't mind PSG or Schalke.

I don't think anybody will look forward to visiting Paradise.:D

To have a chance Schalke or Malaga (form's been going downhill) As a spectacle Dortmund. Have seen us play Man Utd, Juve, Bayern, PSG and Dortmund before, so maybe someone new. It's all good not bothered really. Heads down and concentrate on the league for a few months and try and pull clear.

Henkesghost 20-12-2012 19:31

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Juve?? Great game but will be a struggle. Is this thread dead?:(

denphone 20-12-2012 19:49

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Originally Posted by Henkesghost (Post 35514665)
Juve?? Great game but will be a struggle. Is this thread dead?:(

Not by me Henke as l hope Celtic do well in Europe.

Henkesghost 20-12-2012 19:59

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35514673)
Not by me Henke as l hope Celtic do well in Europe.

Aw cheers Den :) Daughter demanding we get the tickets before Saturdays game :) Really looking forward to it. Celtic Park like Anfield is amazing on a big European night. Unbeatable atmosphere.

LondonRoad 20-12-2012 20:01

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Celtic might become a British club again once Man U and Arsenal get knocked out. ;)

Tough draw but happy to be in it.

colin25 20-12-2012 20:55

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Originally Posted by LondonRoad (Post 35514677)
Celtic might become a British club again once Man U and Arsenal get knocked out. ;)

Tough draw but happy to be in it.

I thought it was a good draw for celtic. Could have been worse

Henkesghost 20-12-2012 21:29

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Originally Posted by colin25 (Post 35514718)
I thought it was a good draw for celtic. Could have been worse

Not complaining Colin. Never going to get an "easy" side at this stage. Been a great tournament for us this season

colin25 21-12-2012 09:23

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Originally Posted by Henkesghost (Post 35514741)
Not complaining Colin. Never going to get an "easy" side at this stage. Been a great tournament for us this season

and may continue to be good :)

Derek 05-01-2013 12:14

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A Hearts fan decides ending it all is preferable to watching the Edinburgh derby. Ouchy!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=maxCFZgcgfM

(I'm led to believe he wasn't injured as a result of this!)

LondonRoad 05-01-2013 12:37

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Originally Posted by Derek (Post 35519656)

(I'm led to believe he wasn't injured as a result of this!)

Landing on his head would have prevented any serious injury ;)

Derek 09-01-2013 10:53

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Scottish football continues its long slow slide to oblivion.

The new master plan is to copy a league setup that came close to killing the game in Austria and Switzerland a few years back with splits all over the place, points and goals being reset and a general feeling of making things up as they go along.

http://sport.stv.tv/football/clubs/a...-within-weeks/

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The plan is to implement a top flight "Premiership" of 12 clubs, a 12-club "Championship" beneath and a third tier "National League" of 18 clubs.

After two rounds of games, the top two tiers would split into three sub-leagues of eight teams. The top eight would contest the league title and European places with the middle eight settling promotion and relegation.

That middle league of eight, made up of SPL1's bottom four teams and SPL2's top four, would see their points reset. They would then play 14 matches, facing each other both home and away, with the four highest placed sides at the end of the campaign playing in the subsequent season's top division.
Happily for certain sections of Scottish football it means Rangers would have gone through this season in the lowest league to still be in the lowest league next year. :mad:

I suppose just having a setup where teams play each other home and away a set number of times each year with the lowest two teams dropping a division to be replaced by the top two in the division below (even if 2nd and 2nd bottom have a playoff) would be too radical for the halfwits running the game up here.

Pog66 09-01-2013 12:33

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not a follower of Scottish football but it does seem overly complicated and connived to ensure maximum old firm derby's - until this season of course.

It's not a coincidence that Norwich City's years of financial mismanagement & on-pitch mediocrity ended when Neil Doomcaster left to take up the SPL Chief exec job.

LondonRoad 09-01-2013 13:09

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Change is certainly required but there is again an inherent unfairness in this proposed system. Splits will always throw up anomolies and they're always predictable so why have them.

There have been enough anomolies in the current system but this proposal makes those pale into insignificance.

A team that finishes 9th in the top league may be 12 points clear of the team in 10th but both teams start the middle 8 league with the same number of points. Farcical.

No splits, play each other same number of times home and away. Play offs for relegation/promotion. Simples..... or does that not suit Sky?

Derek 09-01-2013 13:14

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Originally Posted by LondonRoad (Post 35521098)
No splits, play each other same number of times home and away. Play offs for relegation/promotion. Simples..... or does that not suit Sky?

You've just said something football related I agree with! Urghh! :shocked:

*Goes off to shower with carbolic soap and steel wool*

You have to wonder what they have against the simpler and fairer setup thats used by most other leagues worldwide?

LondonRoad 09-01-2013 13:34

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Originally Posted by Derek (Post 35521100)
You've just said something football related I agree with! Urghh! :shocked:

*Goes off to shower with carbolic soap and steel wool*

You have to wonder what they have against the simpler and fairer setup thats used by most other leagues worldwide?

It won't happen again.;)

I tried to red rep myself :D

denphone 15-01-2013 09:36

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Gordon Strachan to be named Scotland coach

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/21023913

colin25 15-01-2013 17:26

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35523281)
Gordon Strachan to be named Scotland coach

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/21023913

I am hopeful that he will do the best with what we have :)

denphone 15-01-2013 17:31

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Originally Posted by colin25 (Post 35523496)
I am hopeful that he will do the best with what we have :)

Indeed he can only do his best with the tools he has at his disposal.

Chad 16-01-2013 23:55

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Originally Posted by colin25 (Post 35523496)
I am hopeful that he will do the best with what we have :)

I'm excited by this appointment. Strachan has a fire in his belly that other recent managers didn't have. Whilst his record isn't fantastic down in England what he did with Celtic, especially in the Champions League, was impressive.

As a collection of players, I don't think the Scotland squad is too bad. Whilst we are clearly not world beaters with the right line-up, tactics, motivation and a sense of pride we should be able to compete at a decent level.

colin25 17-01-2013 06:49

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Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35524137)
I'm excited by this appointment. Strachan has a fire in his belly that other recent managers didn't have. Whilst his record isn't fantastic down in England what he did with Celtic, especially in the Champions League, was impressive.

As a collection of players, I don't think the Scotland squad is too bad. Whilst we are clearly not world beaters with the right line-up, tactics, motivation and a sense of pride we should be able to compete at a decent level.

Yes, agree. A decent level is all I would want. No need to win the world cup, but would be nice to look like we have a chance to qualify. Too many were happy to ignore the obvious.

LondonRoad 17-01-2013 08:15

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I like wee Gordon Strachan. I think he's got a good football brain.

My slight concern is he seems to be a bit huffy and and has an air of resignation about him if things aren't going well. As an international manager he won't be working with the players on a daily basis so has to be able to change things during the game. He has lacked the ability to do that a few times at club level in the past.

He's a clever guy though so hopefully he's learned from his mistakes. My cup is half full at the moment. :D

LondonRoad 25-01-2013 15:39

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Gorgeous George concerned about the Rangers situation :D

http://www.parliament.uk/edm/2012-13/913

Derek 25-01-2013 16:12

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It's George Galloway so automatically irrelevant.

Still I suppose like most Celtic fans he is obsessed with their more successful neighbours across in the nicer side of the city.

LondonRoad 25-01-2013 20:41

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Originally Posted by Derek (Post 35527465)
It's George Galloway so automatically irrelevant.

Still I suppose like most Celtic fans he is obsessed with their more successful neighbours across in the nicer side of the city.

That's probably their most accurate claim to fame. The most successful club on the south side of the River Clyde.(RIP)

They died trying to catch the most successful Scottish team. Most successful by any criteria... European cups, corontation cups, Empire trophies..... all stuff the dead club could only dream of. Won them on the park without cheating too ;)

They were a nothing team before Celtic were formed. It was only Queens Park decision to remain amatuer that allowed them to become as big a club as they did.

This new upstart with the same name is making the same mistakes as the dead club.

It must be cold living in our shadow.

Hugh 25-01-2013 22:56

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Originally Posted by Derek (Post 35527465)
It's George Galloway so automatically irrelevant.

Still I suppose like most Celtic fans he is obsessed with their more successful neighbours across in the nicer side of the city.

Sorry, Derek, but going into administration and being in the Scottish 3rd Division must be a new definition of "successful" I hadn't come across before.... ;)

Derek 31-01-2013 21:14

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35527707)
Sorry, Derek, but going into administration and being in the Scottish 3rd Division must be a new definition of "successful" I hadn't come across before.... ;)

It just means we can win the 3rd, 2nd and 1st division titles on the way back up. :D Assuming the SPHell don't get their way and stitch things up with a new league structure.

In other news the completely independent :rolleyes: commission finished hearing evidence today. Completely independent with the SPL being represented by the same lawyers who represent celtic and chaired by the same person who has already been slapped down by previously imposing an improper punishment on Rangers.
This is after the punishment and guilt has already been decided and circulated by the SPL.

Sporting Integrity? :dozey:

Henkesghost 01-02-2013 15:07

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Originally Posted by Derek (Post 35530026)
It just means we can win the 3rd, 2nd and 1st division titles on the way back up. :D Assuming the SPHell don't get their way and stitch things up with a new league structure.

In other news the completely independent :rolleyes: commission finished hearing evidence today. Completely independent with the SPL being represented by the same lawyers who represent celtic and chaired by the same person who has already been slapped down by previously imposing an improper punishment on Rangers.
This is after the punishment and guilt has already been decided and circulated by the SPL.

Sporting Integrity? :dozey:


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Chad 03-02-2013 00:55

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As a Rangers fan I've got to admit a few things troubled me today.

Firstly our defence was shocking. Secondly the lack of discipline at the end was terrible. Ian Blacks' behaviour as he left the pitch was tough to watch. He is supposed to be one of the clubs senior players, a role model for the youngsters. I can't remember a single game this year where Black has took a game by the scruff of the neck and bossed the middle of the park.

A combination of the above and the whole boycott issue paints Rangers in a poor light. Todays outing also illustrated how far removed Rangers are from SPL quality. It's going to be a tough road back.

Whilst I admire his passion for the club, I would prefer if Charles Green would be a bit more humble and dignified with his approach. His views and opinions do not represent all of those who support the club.

colin25 03-02-2013 01:57

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Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35531028)
As a Rangers fan I've got to admit a few things troubled me today.

Firstly our defence was shocking. Secondly the lack of discipline at the end was terrible. Ian Blacks' behaviour as he left the pitch was tough to watch. He is supposed to be one of the clubs senior players, a role model for the youngsters. I can't remember a single game this year where Black has took a game by the scruff of the neck and bossed the middle of the park.

A combination of the above and the whole boycott issue paints Rangers in a poor light. Todays outing also illustrated how far removed Rangers are from SPL quality. It's going to be a tough road back.

Whilst I admire his passion for the club, I would prefer if Charles Green would be a bit more humble and dignified with his approach. His views and opinions do not represent all of those who support the club.

Good post. And reasonable. My issue with Rangers isn't from bias, but that they were arrogant, presumed the other scottish clubs owed them somethimg. No one owes anyone. Bed and lie in it etc.
Green has never helped, he speaks without thinking, or worse, he knows it, and is deliberate. A bit of humble pie from him and rangers and most clubs would be sympathetic. To be honest, I was not bothered if Rangers ever came back, still not concerned, and equally knowing that Rangers resources will by their magnitude make it certain you will eventually be back (only a timing issue).

As to Black, he was a thug at hearts, so just continuing his form at rangers. As a hearts supporter, I never seen him as a footballer, more a liability. Only thing I did think he would be good enough for 3rd division, but being stupid knows no level :)

Henkesghost 03-02-2013 10:13

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Originally Posted by colin25 (Post 35531047)
Good post. And reasonable. My issue with Rangers isn't from bias, but that they were arrogant, presumed the other scottish clubs owed them somethimg. No one owes anyone. Bed and lie in it etc.
Green has never helped, he speaks without thinking, or worse, he knows it, and is deliberate. A bit of humble pie from him and rangers and most clubs would be sympathetic. To be honest, I was not bothered if Rangers ever came back, still not concerned, and equally knowing that Rangers resources will by their magnitude make it certain you will eventually be back (only a timing issue).

Let's not forget their continual threats boycotts and rabble rousing including the cheapening of rememberance day by involving the military (who I may add I work for) turning it into a flag waving circus using soldiers to appeal to the lowest amongst their fans, which the military have said will not happen again!!! Greens constant rants about things that dont concern him, the man's a joke and a dangerous one at that imho.

For me this new Rangers will not be back where their dead father's were. It's over. Celtic Park has been a better place without them and will continue to be. St Mirren and Hearts in a final is refreshing, even though it was to the detriment of my team. Chad u seem very reasonable but this has not been displayed by the Tetleytwit Green.

Anyway hope we can do it against Raith today but must admit am looking more towards the last 16 tie against Juve:) Will be really tough but we can beat the best.

LondonRoad 03-02-2013 10:21

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Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35531028)
Whilst I admire his passion for the club, I would prefer if Charles Green would be a bit more humble and dignified with his approach. His views and opinions do not represent all of those who support the club.

Don't be fooled that he has any passion for the club. He has passion only for his own back pocket.

He is pillaging this new club more obviously than the custodians of the previous entity did.

denphone 03-02-2013 10:32

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Originally Posted by LondonRoad (Post 35531112)
Don't be fooled that he has any passion for the club. He has passion only for his own back pocket.

He is pillaging this new club more obviously than the custodians of the previous entity did.

l agree totally as there have been several clubs in England where new owners have promised the world and yet down the line sell some of the assets before another owners comes in and puts the club in even more of a financial mess then the previous money grabbing idiots did

Arthurgray50@blu 03-02-2013 12:53

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I think that to spice up the SPL and Scottish league, they should just have TWO divisions, and have BOTH Celtic and Rangers in the same SPL, as i think that Scottish football is finished.

And it obvious that Rangers and Celtic wont get into English football. I can just imagine Celtic and Rangers being in the Second tier, just think of the recvenue.

Media Boy UK 03-02-2013 12:57

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Rangers fans did go to Dundee United VS Rangers Cup tie.

Sky Sports reports 350 fans went.
The Sunday Post reports 422 fans went.

Rangers told they fans NOT to go due to some SPL carry on.

(I am an Motherwell fan)

Chad 03-02-2013 13:01

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Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35531171)
Rangers fans did go to Dundee United VS Rangers Cup tie.

Sky Sports reports 350 fans went.
The Sunday Post reports 422 fans went.

Rangers told they fans NOT to go due to some SPL carry on.

(I am an Motherwell fan)

The irony of it all was that Charlie Green was in attendance yesterday. Also what would have happened if yesterdays game was a draw? Would the fans boycotting the game, because they didn't want to fund Dundee United, stay away from the replay at Ibrox on the same grounds?

Time for this to end

Henkesghost 03-02-2013 13:29

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I think that to spice up the SPL and Scottish league, they should just have TWO divisions, and have BOTH Celtic and Rangers in the same SPL, as i think that Scottish football is finished.

And it obvious that Rangers and Celtic wont get into English football. I can just imagine Celtic and Rangers being in the Second tier, just think of the recvenue.

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LondonRoad 04-02-2013 15:15

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HMRC appeal against FTT has been granted.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotlan...-west-21326039

LondonRoad 06-02-2013 11:28

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Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35531167)
I think that to spice up the SPL and Scottish league, they should just have TWO divisions, and have BOTH Celtic and Rangers in the same SPL, as i think that Scottish football is finished.

And it obvious that Rangers and Celtic wont get into English football. I can just imagine Celtic and Rangers being in the Second tier, just think of the recvenue.

Interesting legal opinion for you to mull over here:

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/f...ansfer-1588512

Personally I think it's doolally moonbeams, but I also thought Bosman would never succeed against the authorities either ;)

Derek 06-02-2013 11:28

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Originally Posted by Henkesghost (Post 35531111)
Celtic Park has been a better place without them and will continue to be.

It's certainly been quieter. :D

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Originally Posted by Henkesghost (Post 35531111)
Will be really tough but we can beat the best.

I suppose Neil 'tactical genius' Lennon has already booked the bus to park in defence?

Derek 06-02-2013 11:32

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Originally Posted by LondonRoad (Post 35531726)
HMRC appeal against FTT has been granted.

So the two legal experts got a point of law correct and the accountant didn't? Good luck with that one HMRC.

Still gives the media something to write about on slow news days for the next 2-3 years.

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Originally Posted by LondonRoad (Post 35532843)
Interesting legal opinion for you to mull over here:

Personally I think it's doolally moonbeams, but I also thought Bosman would never succeed against the authorities either ;)

Casting my mind back I'm pretty sure Rangers played in the FA cup many, many years ago so they haven't been totally Scottish based at all times.

LondonRoad 06-02-2013 12:26

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Originally Posted by Derek (Post 35532846)


Casting my mind back I'm pretty sure Rangers played in the FA cup many, many years ago so they haven't been totally Scottish based at all times.


You've got some memory. That was in the 1880s.... the days before the supporters of the deid club rioted and pillaged every English town they visited. I can't think why you're not being welcomed with open arms ;)

Arthurgray50@blu 06-02-2013 14:38

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I think that the Scottish leagues are finished, as they lost the 'big money' games ie the Old Firm games.

What should happen is bring Scottish football in line with the English football and have it broken down.

We already know that there is to be PL1 and PL2 within two years, then you have the Championship, what you could have is Championship 2, followed by THREE divisions involving the bottom half of the The English league and the Scottish divisions.

Therefore, it will bring in more revenue for these clubs, and travelling to these games would not be of a hardship - any comments.

LondonRoad 06-02-2013 16:36

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It seems that this new club haven't learned anything from the death of it's parent.

Sevco facing a winding up order:

http://blogs.channel4.com/alex-thoms...-petition/4020

Chad 09-02-2013 02:57

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Originally Posted by LondonRoad (Post 35533008)
It seems that this new club haven't learned anything from the death of it's parent.

Sevco facing a winding up order:

http://blogs.channel4.com/alex-thoms...-petition/4020

Hey back off! Guys like Ian Black don't come cheap. We've got SPL rejects like this tit to pay for each and every week. If it's paying the bills or paying Sandaza, I chose Sandaza :erm:

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Originally Posted by LondonRoad (Post 35532869)
You've got some memory. That was in the 1880s.... the days before the supporters of the deid club rioted and pillaged every English town they visited. I can't think why you're not being welcomed with open arms ;)

Or opened legs :shocked:

Henkesghost 09-02-2013 11:52

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Hey back off! Guys like Ian Black don't come cheap. We've got SPL rejects like this tit to pay for each and every week. If it's paying the bills or paying Sandaza, I chose Sandaza :erm:

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Or opened legs :shocked:

Attachment 24204 ;)

Just seen our team for game against ICT, think I may need a bottle or 2 of what Chad had

Chad 10-02-2013 02:37

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Originally Posted by Henkesghost (Post 35534277)
Attachment 24204 ;)

Just seen our team for game against ICT, think I may need a bottle or 2 of what Chad had

I've been catching up with some of my colourful wine fulled posts from last night :erm:

Henkesghost 10-02-2013 15:39

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Bring on Tuesday! Cannot wait! :D

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2013/02/46.jpg

Henkesghost 12-02-2013 08:43

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This is going to be one long day at work :( Hope Izzy and Sammy are fit. Heard last night that Juve haven't been beaten away from home in 2 years

denphone 12-02-2013 08:53

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Good luck to Celtic tonight lads.

LondonRoad 12-02-2013 09:47

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Originally Posted by Henkesghost (Post 35535361)
This is going to be one long day at work :( Hope Izzy and Sammy are fit. Heard last night that Juve haven't been beaten away from home in 2 years

They haven't played at Celtic Park during that period though ;)

the place will be buzzing tonight.

I'm off work today so it'll be a long day. Can't wait. COTBIG :D

Henkesghost 12-02-2013 10:32

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Originally Posted by LondonRoad (Post 35535372)
They haven't played at Celtic Park during that period though ;)

the place will be buzzing tonight.

I'm off work today so it'll be a long day. Can't wait. COTBIG :D


Good point :D Will be difficult but we've seen off Juve at home before, so who knows

colin25 12-02-2013 17:05

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I am looking forward to it. Hope they do well, but tinged with a realism streak :)

Stephen 12-02-2013 17:12

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No matter what happens to night the atmosphere at Celtic Park is going to be electric tonight.

Wish I was going, sure I'll hear the noise from home as I am Just near Duke Street.

Arthurgray50@blu 12-02-2013 17:24

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Sorry Celtic, l think you are going to get hammered, if you can get past Juv, then it will be a miracle - good luck.

LondonRoad 12-02-2013 19:35

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Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35535588)
Sorry Celtic, l think you are going to get hammered, if you can get past Juv, then it will be a miracle - good luck.

As the Celtic song says:
For we only know that there's going to be a show.
and the Glasgow Celtic will be there


For those of you who want to join in tonight, here's the fist couple of verses :)

Sure it's a grand old team to play for,
Sure it's a grand old team to see,
if you know its history,
It's enough to make your heart grow sad,
God bless them.




We don't care if we win, lose or draw,
Darn the hell do we care,
For we only know that there's going to be a show,
And the Glasgow Celtic will be there.


Must go now for a quick refreshment before I head to paradise :D

Arthurgray50@blu 12-02-2013 19:41

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I will be watching on Tv, good game - but l cannot see it.

Arthurgray50@blu 12-02-2013 22:47

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Sorry lads, l told you so, Celtic's defence was poor to concede the goals and Ambrose should not have been playing.

This is the sign of a poor manager in Lennon, sorry Celts u are out.

Derek 12-02-2013 22:49

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Mwah hah hah.

:D

Already the excuses are circulating on Facebook.

Damien 12-02-2013 22:50

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It's a sign of Lennon being a poor manager!? This is all very harsh. Celtic were always massive underdogs. I think they deserve a lot of credit for making it past the group stages of the Champions League in the first place.

Derek 12-02-2013 22:52

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Quote:

Originally Posted by LondonRoad (Post 35533008)
It seems that this new club haven't learned anything from the death of it's parent.

Sevco facing a winding up order:

http://blogs.channel4.com/alex-thoms...-petition/4020

Hmmm. The crooked lawyer, the failed social worker and the journalist who thinks making jokes about the ibrox disaster is funny all put out blog posts about a spurious invoice almost simultaneously.

You might even say it was planned.

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35535750)
It's a sign of Lennon being a poor manager!? This is all very harsh. Celtic were always massive underdogs. I think they deserve a lot of credit for making it past the group stages of the Champions League in the first place.

Lucky. Very lucky indeed to get to the next round. Lennon has a shocking record in big games.

Stephen 12-02-2013 22:55

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Those Juventus players should have been sent off for their behaviour tonight. All that wrestling in the box. brown should have taken a red and knocked the guy out!

Pitiful behaviour from such a big team.

Damien 12-02-2013 22:55

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Derek (Post 35535751)
Lucky. Very lucky indeed to get to the next round. Lennon has a shocking record in big games.

This is a game that Celtic really had no business winning and the result should be expected. I don't think it can be used to judge Lennon, this was a task that was always a bit too much. Juventus are simply a much better team, a much better funded team, that won a considerably more difficult league.

However Celtic did well against Barcelona of all people. They just can't keep repeating such giant killings.

Derek 12-02-2013 22:58

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35535755)
However Celtic did well against Barcelona of all people. They just can't keep repeating such giant killings.

Freak results happen. Lennon is showing how classless he is by throwing his players under the bus in his post match interview and claiming Celtic were far superior for 80% of the match!

Stephen 12-02-2013 23:04

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Derek (Post 35535759)
Freak results happen. Lennon is showing how classless he is by throwing his players under the bus in his post match interview and claiming Celtic were far superior for 80% of the match!

Thing is they were!

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35535755)
This is a game that Celtic really had no business winning and the result should be expected. I don't think it can be used to judge Lennon, this was a task that was always a bit too much. Juventus are simply a much better team, a much better funded team, that won a considerably more difficult league.

However Celtic did well against Barcelona of all people. They just can't keep repeating such giant killings.

They are not a better team, they were the better team at diving and generally being. Very unsportsman like.

Damien 12-02-2013 23:05

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Derek (Post 35535759)
Freak results happen. Lennon is showing how classless he is by throwing his players under the bus in his post match interview and claiming Celtic were far superior for 80% of the match!

They also finished 2nd in a pretty difficult group. I think they deserve credit and I don't really see how they can be mocked for losing against Juventus once getting past the Champions League. They've done will in Europe this season. I don't think any neutral fan can disagree ;).

I don't especially like Lennon anyway but credit where credits due on Celtic's European campaign this season.

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Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 35535761)
They are not a better team, they were the better team at diving and generally being. Very unsportsman like.

Maybe but they are still a better team.

Arthurgray50@blu 12-02-2013 23:23

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Firstly, Lennon is at fault, he should never have played Ambrose, whose just come back from the African cup, it showed that he was tired, and it was him that gave away a goal, and he was still on the field at the end.

Juventus was by superior throughout the game, and to say that some of them should have been sent off is very harsh, they are class and the ref should have been more firmer with some of the fouls.

Celtic are not the side they used to be and to get Celtic back on par you have to get rid of Lennon.

Damien 12-02-2013 23:26

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For Celtic to get on par they need more money and they won't get that in the Scottish League. Rangers and Celtic's decline is because the SPL declined. Celtic aren't going to become a major European force by changing managers.

LondonRoad 12-02-2013 23:36

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Disappointing :(

Defensive mistakes cost us.

We really can't use the referee as an excuse because at the Champions league level you can't expect favours.

At the budget Celtic are working at I think you would have to be a football retard, or a bitter delusioned fan of the The The Rangers (akaSevco), not to recognise that hosting tonight's spectacle was a massive achievment. This was only made possible by the phenomonal skills of the managment team lead by Neil Lennon.

Many Championship teams can afford players in the market that Celtic have to scout in. Within that budget, and without having to screw creditors and taxpayer, he has managed to produce a team that has reached the last 16 of the ECL.

Well done Neil :D

Well done the Bhoys.

For we only know
that there's going to be a show
and the Glasgow Celtic will be there :D


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