Re: Sky or VM for TV???
 

Right so then he compromises, simple.

Re: Sky or VM for TV???
 

100% agree with all you just said.

Re: Sky or VM for TV???
 

There should be a boot or a roof rack:erm::D:D:D

Re: Sky or VM for TV???
 

I get the feeling he doesn't want to compromise. He wants it all his own way, with minority channels on VM just for him.

Re: Sky or VM for TV???
 

:clap::clap::clap: very minority channels.

Re: Sky or VM for TV???
 

In life we have to compromise here and there and its no different if we are buyings services off a supplier as we cannot expect to get everything we want.

Re: Sky or VM for TV???
 

Works for me, just don't tell the Wife... :D

As I think I said to him in another thread, if he is an existing Sky customer (as I am), then he can keep his box and access all of the Freesat from Sky channels (including Al Jazeera) alongside his Virgin Media service. Simples.

Not his ideal set up perhaps but I can't really see any other option other than staying with Sky entirely and I don't really see the point in going round and round in circles about it! :)

Re: Sky or VM for TV???
 

While I agree with many comments about it being a minority channel and not being a top priority for VM to acquire , I find it's programming excellent and it's news coverage second to none , so I believe its wrong to be branded crap.

It's awards speak for themselves
http://english.aljazeera.net/aboutus...939264896.html

Re: Sky or VM for TV???
 

Oh believe me, I'm in retail, and some people do expect exactly what they want, when they want it, and the way they want it. But they don't want to pay for a bespoke service.

Re: Sky or VM for TV???
 

Yes I understand what you mean MM as it is always good to have balance from both sides (even if that is the media). Everything in life has to have balance:)

Re: Sky or VM for TV???
 

He may not even have to do that depending on the age of his TV. As most TV's have freeview built in these days. So he only has to switch from his VM box to freeview.

Re: Sky or VM for TV???
 

Of course, although I don't think you can get Al Jazeera on Freeview can you?

Plus he would be missing out on quality programming from the likes of Sumo TV, Body in Balance and Ideal World 3... :D

Re: Sky or VM for TV???
 

Wow what a wonderful collection of 3 channels:D

Re: Sky or VM for TV???
 

I don't know because I have never watched it. But Alan did say that it was in Freeview.

Re: Sky or VM for TV???
 

Yes it is 6-11pm on Ch 89

Re: Sky or VM for TV???
 

Do you mind:confused: I like Body in Balance as I normally have trouble keeping my balance:D:D:D:D

Re: Sky or VM for TV???
 

Now you are revealing your inner self.:D

Re: Sky or VM for TV???
 

That's the whole point of having two providers. They offer differing products. They aren't supposed to be the same.

It would just be easier if you became a Sky customer because your list of things to moan about would at least be 90+ items.

Re: Sky or VM for TV???
 

it is not a crap news channel, it is better than cnn, bloomberg etc

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it has great coverage of the arab spring and many other protest movements

it is was cnn was in the 1990s

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then i can't get any Video on Demand

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i asking for many more hd channels, sky atlantic, boxnation and premier sports, sky 3d etc

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if i would buy a sports car, they i will buy a Bmw 6 series

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i want sky atlantic and more hd channels

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well i am prepaired to pay for it, if you are not then leave Virgin Media

Re: Sky or VM for TV???
 

Alan, you need to decide what is more important to you. A news channel who you say is better than a couple of American news channels (which isn't saying much), and a couple of other channels. Or catch up TV on demand.

Re: Sky or VM for TV???
 

why can't i have both, it is not unresonable to want this

virgin have a terrable lack of news channels

Re: Sky or VM for TV???
 

Why don't you watch al-jazeera on Freeview?

Re: Sky or VM for TV???
 

We are going around in circles :banghead:

You can't have both because it's not popular enough to justify VM paying for it. If they bought all the minority channels, then they would be as expensive as Sky (if not more expensive as many are bought from Sky).

As Hugh says, watch it on freeview.

Re: Sky or VM for TV???
 

Or VIA the link I provided him.

Re: Sky or VM for TV???
 

i don't want to watch it on freeview because it is not 24 horu, unlike sky and freesat

Re: Sky or VM for TV???
 

:banghead::banghead::banghead:

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Watch it online
http://english.aljazeera.net/watch_now/

Re: Sky or VM for TV???
 

Well do what someone else suggested: keep your sky box to view it on freesat.

Re: Sky or VM for TV???
 

I gave you a link to online 24hrs a day. ;)

Re: Sky or VM for TV???
 

He must be blind :D

Re: Sky or VM for TV???
 

I kept my 'Sky box' to watch additional news channels.Also like 'Vintage tv'.Apart from that VM is fine for me.

Re: Sky or VM for TV???
 

Maybe you should explain it to Alan

Re: Sky or VM for TV???
 

I have just had Tivo installed moving over from SkyHD

i would say the only advantage sky now have is the few missing HD channels they don't allow on virgin.

The Tivo box is streets ahead.

Re: Sky or VM for TV???
 

There is 5 sky HD channels that sky don't allow on Virgin Media . They are Sky Sports HD3 and HD4 , Sky News HD, Sky Sports News HD and Sky Atlantic HD. Not that many is it. To be honest i would not Sky News HD any way.

Re: Sky or VM for TV???
 

to make thing simple, why can't we just have more channels, then Virgin Medias Triple-play service will be perfect

Re: Sky or VM for TV???
 

In dec 2010 Virgin Media said they had path to grow to 80 HD channels in 2 years or 3 years. So at the moment they roughly have the capacity for 47-55 HD channels.
page 10 http://phx.corporate-ir.net/External...xUeXBlPTM=&t=1
Alan virgin media can't add every +1 channels and every minority channels that exists on Sky but we will get a lot more HD channels.

Virgin Media TV only has a certain capacity.

Re: Sky or VM for TV???
 

As many of us have explained. If Sky sold all of their channels to VM, then they would lose all their customers. It's a business decision in order to keep customers.

Otherwise, what have Sky got to keep customers paying their high prices??

Re: Sky or VM for TV???
 

HD Boy, to be a mathamatician you need two skills,to add up,take away and divide:rolleyes::rolleyes:

Re: Sky or VM for TV???
 

Virgin Media TV can cope with 400 channels

Re: Sky or VM for TV???
 

:D:D:D

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Source ? At the maxmium they have capacity for 344 channels if you include the additional 44 HD channels they will have the capacity for.

Re: Sky or VM for TV???
 

where are they going to fit premier sports?

Re: Sky or VM for TV???
 

I think cable can cope with way more than 344 channels hence the reason they were turning off analogue.

Re: Sky or VM for TV???
 

They will sacrifice a few HD channels to get other SD channels.

2 MPEG2 HD channels are carried on one stream and 8 SD TV channels can be carried on one stream.

Also when Virgin Media switch HD channels to MPEG4 after everyone has migrated to tivo in 4 or 5 years time. That will free up space for more channels.

Re: Sky or VM for TV???
 

so have many channels can fit into virgin media?

Re: Sky or VM for TV???
 

It all depends on how many HD channels are broadcasting in 2 years time. They might not even be 80 HD channels in 2 years. They could use some of the bandwith which can not be used because they is not 80 HD channels in 2 years time for some more SD channels.

Re: Sky or VM for TV???
 

They will make space by not having the minority channels that you want.

Re: Sky or VM for TV???
 

:clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap:

Re: Sky or VM for TV???
 

Glad to hear it, my TiVo arrives on the 22nd November! :D

In my view, the only real reason/benefit to Sky having so many +1 channels is because it helps the Sky+ box as it only has two tuners. Having time shifted channels makes it easier to avoid recording clashes at peak times (for those that don't use the basic search facility and record stuff late at night/early hours).

With 3/4 tuners and on demand for the main channels this isn't an issue with Virgin. Well, I hope not, guess I'll soon find out!

And I repeat, the majority of these "minority channels" are available if you keep your Sky box (which is yours after all).

Can someone stop this merry-go-round please, I want to get off! :nutter:

Re: Sky or VM for TV???
 

:clap::clap: Can someone now close this thread please.

Re: Sky or VM for TV???
 

There is no reason to close it.

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Am sorry but where on earth are you getting this 'info' from?

Re: Sky or VM for TV???
 

http://www.google.co.uk/#sclient=psy...w=1366&bih=522
http://virgintivo.blogspot.com/2011/...n-fee-for.html

Re: Sky or VM for TV???
 

so can virgin do a 6 tuner box

Re: Sky or VM for TV???
 

If this came to Virgin Media you would be able to record 4 shows at once while watching one you recorded eariler

TiVo announces 2Tb, four tuner box in the US
http://vmhd.blogspot.com/2011/09/tiv...box-in-us.html

Re: Sky or VM for TV???
 

How many people would want to record 6 programs at once? Especially with catch up TV

Re: Sky or VM for TV???
 

some do

Re: Sky or VM for TV???
 

Go build yourself a Media Center PC, you can build yourself one with 24 tuners (8 DVB-S2, 8 DVB-T2, 8 DVB-C). Then you can record Argos TV all you like.

Re: Sky or VM for TV???
 

Once you get a 6 tuner Tivo box you will then want 8 tuner tivo box. You will never be happy. :D

Re: Sky or VM for TV???
 

I'm sorry but if forum staff can't spot or deal with an obvious troll then I have obviously come to the wrong place for my Virgin Media information.

Bye!

:waving:

Re: Sky or VM for TV???
 

how do i do that

Re: Sky or VM for TV???
 

Do not go just be like me and do not give a damn:D Some come and some go? Also the mad ones stay here (The Asylum):confused:

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Go to College :dunce:

Re: Sky or VM for TV???
 

Buy tuner cards, put them in your PC, load Windows Media Center, shazam, best DVR money can't buy because you pretty much have to make it yourself.

Re: Sky or VM for TV???
 

will be virgin media and sky compatible

Re: Sky or VM for TV???
 

VM through expensive means and I think you can use Sky providing you plug the card back into the box once in a while so it can phone home to Skynet.

Re: Sky or VM for TV???
 

I'm back!

Thankfully I have found the wonderful "Ignore" function and my sanity has been restored! :D

I highly recommend it.

Re: Sky or VM for TV???
 

Well I can't see VM doing a 6 channel box just for the one or two people who might want to, just the same as they don't show minority channels. It simply isn't cost effective.

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They don't need to close a thread because of one person. They can take action against that person.

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That depends on how you build it

Re: Sky or VM for TV???
 

I didn't ask them too and I agree.

That's what I expected about 134 posts ago! They haven't, but it doesn't matter now as I have found the ignore function and I am back to a calm and idyllic place... ;)

Re: Sky or VM for TV???
 

That won't last long on any forum site :D

Re: Sky or VM for TV???
 

Not this one anyway:D:D:D

Re: Sky or VM for TV???
 

don't you are ignore me

even i don't ignore HD Boy

in my opinoin, it is right if everybodies views are heard

Re: Sky or VM for TV???
 

That's because you are just attention seeking

Re: Sky or VM for TV???
 

i only want more channels

you also want more as well

Re: Sky or VM for TV???
 

:LOL:

Re: Sky or VM for TV???
 

i am not attention seeking

all i want is a better service from Virgin Media in the tv depatment

then i will shut up

Re: Sky or VM for TV???
 

No where near as many as you want.

Re: Sky or VM for TV???
 

You can only watch one at a time. And if you record another 5, then when are you going to find time to watch them (especially if you are watching Al Jazerra 24 hours a day)?

Re: Sky or VM for TV???
 

Same here :D

Re: Sky or VM for TV???
 

Well there is no point in ranting here about it. Call VM and rant to them. And then when they tell you that they won't customise their service just to suit you, then you can go to Sky and pay more.

Re: Sky or VM for TV???
 

I want a better service in the bedroom department (different forum):erm:

I need a new Bed:D:D:D

Re: Sky or VM for TV???
 

there is no point ranting to virgin becuase they would not care about one of they many millions of customers.

this is after all a forum about expressing our own opinons about Virgin Media

I am not with sky because they have rubbish broadband and dissapointing video-on-demand

Re: Sky or VM for TV???
 

This is a independent forum? So if you want to rant about VM i would go over to the community forum to see if they will take notice of what you are saying?

Re: Sky or VM for TV???
 

What did alan say this time ? I can't see because he is on my ignore list :D

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LOL :D:D:D:D

Re: Sky or VM for TV???
 

No it isn't. Did you read the opening post?

If you want to rant in a forum, then go to the VM forum.

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He thinks this forum is where you complain to VM.

Re: Sky or VM for TV???
 

100% agree

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He is :dunce:

Re: Sky or VM for TV???
 

I know that is forum is about sky vs virgin media for tv!!!!!

I am saying if virgin improved its tv service a little bit then it would be better than sky!!!!!!

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i only want to watch al jazeera when a important news story is on

Re: Sky or VM for TV???
 

I can't help you in the bedroom department, but if you want a new bed I can help...lol

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And we have been through the reasons in detail as to why the channels will NEVER be the same.

Then watch it on freeview or on line and stop complaining. I personally don't want to pay for another news channel just to please a few people.

Re: Sky or VM for TV???
 

Here you go.....http://bit.ly/uEFtwm ;)

Re: Sky or VM for TV???
 

i don't think you will, it is already free to air

Re: Sky or VM for TV???
 

Or have two TiVo boxes, then six channels can be recorded at once, and in the near future, streamed to either box or a PC/Tablet.

Re: Sky or VM for TV???
 

I know that is why I posted it:D:D:D

Re: Sky or VM for TV???
 

He won't be happy Hugh, because he can't record Al Jazeera

Re: Sky or VM for TV???
 

I agree.

Re: Sky or VM for TV???
 

Wait, what?

Re: Sky or VM for TV???
 

You missed a few out there as I thought it was:

Who, What, Where, How, Are you sure, Never :D:D:D:D

Re: Sky or VM for TV???
 

The irony is that not many will have seen this post either!

Re: Sky or VM for TV???
 

Oh the irony of it all :bigcry:

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Re: Sky or VM for TV???
 

Anyway, back on topic!!!

I've just got around to ordering my Tivo, and managed to get £30 knocked off the connection fee. And of course the box is free.

So I now have 3 phone lines with mobile call packages, caller ID, and anytime call packages. 100mb BB. 1 standard TV box with XL package, and will also have a Tivo 500 with all the channels except sport. All for £118 per month.

And if for any reason I did want to watch Al Jazeera 'Alan', then I will be able to watch it on either freesat or freeview.


As for Sky, I called them, and I have to give 31 days notice. So I think I will wait to cancel, so that there is an overlap. Just in case VM mess me around on the install date.

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That's spooky. Chris posted that 1 second before I did :)

Re: Sky or VM for TV???
 

Re: Sky or VM for TV???
 

Out of interest. How reliable are VM at sticking to install dates? My wife would kill me if we didn't have many TV channels at christmas. And I have been reading another thread where they say that there is a shortage of hard drives due to flooded factories. And as Tivos have a hard drive, I'm half expecting a delay.

Re: Sky or VM for TV???
 

I recall having a no-show a couple of years ago, but I think the best way to check on dates is to log into 'My Virginmedia' and check your orders. It should have the install date in there (Assuming you already have a VM service and have registered).

I'd imagine that the current stock, and probably the next lot, have already been built and so would not be affected by any hard-drive shortage.

Re: Sky or VM for TV???
 

Multi-room streaming, if VM implement it properly, with 2 tivos, will effectively give us 6 recordable tuners and up to 2 gig of recording space.