Originally Posted by Zee (Post 35285023)

I think this thread needs renaming to Riots in London as it isn't just Tottenham under attack. Peckham has just been attacked and i think my area is next according to reports

Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35285013)

Well they are now throwing petrol bombs so its time to kick arse, Bring in the army i say.

http://news.sky.com/home/uk-news/article/16045926

Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35285027)

Where is that roughly? North London is a wide area and a lot has already been rioted in....Barnet, Islington?

Originally Posted by budwieser (Post 35285029)

Errrrrr.:erm: Do we have enough soldiers left to control anything anymore?:mad::td:. Lets send the penpushers/Administrators, High ups out onto the streets to see what they can do shall we.;)

Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35284991)

First off it was not 1930 it was 1980 :). Secondly rioting is rioting years do not change it. There is nothing special about these riots other than the looting is more profitable.

If people are going to riot, Beat up people defending a bus driver, Then they need to take the full pressure of the law and if that means using our armed forces so be. I am not a softy lib who thinks we should only talk and slap there hands whilst wringing my own hands, I am a realist who see's what NEEDS to been done with the **** involved in this.

EDIT

There has just been a stupid woman on the news saying we should be asking the rioters why they are looting :confused::confused::confused:

Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35285035)

well we could recall a few from Afganistan and they could bring a few Taliban with them to make up the numbers :Sprint:

Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35285035)

well we could recall a few from Afganistan and they could bring a few Taliban with them to make up the numbers :Sprint:

Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 35285036)

No!The minute you put our troops on the streets to keep order is the day I leave this country.Only a fool would put fighting men into a civil disorder situation.Any government doing so would most certainly lose my respect and my vote.A standing army is for defence against enemies of the state not it's citizens.

Look at how the US National Guard got it so wrong in the University protests against the Vietnam war.

Originally Posted by budwieser (Post 35285037)

We should bring them all back from Afghanistan mate.;) The fecking Taliban can stay there!.:erm:

Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 35285041)

London's going to look like a war zone from the sky tonight.

Originally Posted by Zee (Post 35285040)

Why should Taliban stay there? they need to get out from my country :erm:

Originally Posted by devilincarnate (Post 35285024)

Could this song be the beacon to what and where it is happening?





http://www.sing365.com/music/lyric.n...2568AB0028E61A

Originally Posted by budwieser (Post 35285037)

We should bring them all back from Afghanistan mate.;) The fecking Taliban can stay there!.:erm:

Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35285050)

well that's the ideal solution :)

Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 35285036)

No!The minute you put our troops on the streets to keep order is the day I leave this country.Only a fool would put fighting men into a civil disorder situation.Any government doing so would most certainly lose my respect and my vote.A standing army is for defence against enemies of the state not it's citizens.

Look at how the US National Guard got it so wrong in the University protests against the Vietnam war.

Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 35285036)

No!The minute you put our troops on the streets to keep order is the day I leave this country.Only a fool would put fighting men into a civil disorder situation.Any government doing so would most certainly lose my respect and my vote.A standing army is for defence against enemies of the state not it's citizens.

Look at how the US National Guard got it so wrong in the University protests against the Vietnam war.

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35285055)

Tottenham, Enfield, Lewisham, Birmingham, Harrow and now Croydon WHAT the hell has this to do with the death of a guy in Tottenham.

The Prime Minister has now got to take action on this, as it is now getting out of control and people will get killed.:mad:

Originally Posted by wwe (Post 35285057)

this firer getting out of hand where the fire men?

Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 35285060)

This is the start of a beginning.
it's all changed direction to a reaction to the cuts and poverty now.

Originally Posted by pk1 (Post 35285061)

2 fire engines just arrived by the
looks of it

Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 35285060)

This is the start of a beginning.
it's all changed direction to a reaction to the cuts and poverty now.

Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 35285060)

This is the start of a beginning.
it's all changed direction to a reaction to the cuts and poverty now.

Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35285068)

News just in - Prime Minister David Cameron, returning to Britain, cutting short his holiday and will be chairing a cobra meeting on his return.

Originally Posted by wwe (Post 35285057)

this firer getting out of hand where the fire men?

Originally Posted by Cobbydaler (Post 35285071)

That's a ridiculous statement, this is purely criminal behaviour.

Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35285067)

David Cameron is finally coming back this evening. I sympathise with his need for a holiday and he should be allowed to continue it later, but this is the job he wanted and it's the right choice to come back. He needs to be a symbol and lead the country.

Originally Posted by pk1 (Post 35285070)

David Cameron now on his way back to London about bloody time

Originally Posted by wwe (Post 35285077)

to right. He off in the sun while all hell kicking off. He should had come back stright away

Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35285075)

Not a ridiculous statement at all more of a GARYL fantasy statement

Originally Posted by wwe (Post 35285077)

to right. He off in the sun while all hell kicking off. He should had come back stright away

Originally Posted by pk1 (Post 35285080)

Well all of the goverment have been away while this is going on, this might be their downfall.

Originally Posted by Hom3r (Post 35285085)

I do not like the tories, but what can DC do here that he cannot do on his hols?

How many here would come home mid holiday to a crisis at there job?

Originally Posted by Mr_love_monkey (Post 35285082)

very strange watching buildings about 10 minutes down the road from me (croydon) burn down on tv.

What the hell is going on?

Originally Posted by wwe (Post 35285089)

hope u stay safe

Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 35285087)

I think a few here expect him to send in the troops..:rolleyes:

Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35285053)

Only a fool would think the police can deal with this without the proper equipment. I would dare to say a lot of people would say that equipment is baton guns and water cannon. If that equipment is owned by the army then let the army use it.

Hand wringing and talking is over, Its time to kick the looters butts

Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 35285087)

I think a few here expect him to send in the troops..:rolleyes:

Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 35285092)

Well he can't send in the police, and he can't send in the army.

we'll just have to wait till there's nothing left to burn and steal and they go home to bed till tomorrow when they do it all again.

Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 35285092)

Well he can't send in the police, and he can't send in the army.

we'll just have to wait till there's nothing left to burn and steal and they go home to bed till tomorrow when they do it all again.

Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 35285099)

Hmm! So it's not okay for Syria and Libyan leaders to use troops to shoot their citizens but it is OK for us to do it?

Do you really want our troops to be used like they were in NI? Especially as they have already got enough fighting to do in Afghanistan without being deployed here.

Originally Posted by Kymmy (Post 35285078)

Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 35285087)

I think a few here expect him to send in the troops..:rolleyes:

Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35285100)

well Maggie they clearly don't respect the rule of law so maybe they will respect a few SA80's pointed at them :rolleyes: i for one will not worry one little bit if a few of these **** bags are removed from the gene pool.Maybe this is the turning point when we finally realise that treating these type of people with kid gloves does not work and the heavy approach is needed

Originally Posted by Cobbydaler (Post 35285105)

It seems like the lack of police action during the initial Tottenham looting has encouraged people to try it on in other areas, including Birmingham...

Originally Posted by wwe (Post 35285101)

but u car't just do northng

Originally Posted by wwe (Post 35285110)

why they rioting in bimingham for?

Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 35285113)

Exactly. they've seen that nobody is really doing anything and they see it as free for all. they are getting too confident after 3 days. and until we do something it's not going to stop.

Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 35285099)

Hmm! So it's not okay for Syria and Libyan leaders to use troops to shoot their citizens but it is OK for us to do it?

Do you really want our troops to be used like they were in NI? Especially as they have already got enough fighting to do in Afghanistan without being deployed here.

Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 35285099)

Hmm! So it's not okay for Syria and Libyan leaders to use troops to shoot their citizens but it is OK for us to do it?

Do you really want our troops to be used like they were in NI? Especially as they have already got enough fighting to do in Afghanistan without being deployed here.

Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35285121)

Well clearly the 30,000 Police officers in London are not managing Maggy, so what do we do next?

Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35285123)

Maggy WHERE have i said SHOOT the civilians, I have said use baton guns, Do you know the differance between the SA80 and a riot gun ?. Which do you think the troops would be using ???

Bit of a knee jerk reply me thinks.

Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35285123)

Maggy WHERE have i said SHOOT the civilians, I have said use baton guns, Do you know the differance between the SA80 and a riot gun ?. Which do you think the troops would be using ???

Bit of a knee jerk reply me thinks.

---------- Post added at 22:04 ---------- Previous post was at 21:59 ----------



Wring our hands and slap there wrists, If it gets really bad we could talk to them with a stern voice and shout go home :rolleyes:

Originally Posted by budwieser (Post 35285118)

Bring on the Vigilantes.:) lets see some *******s who think they rule get shot to pieces. About time too.:tu:

Originally Posted by budwieser (Post 35285126)

I was then one who said use live rounds.
The Libyan and syrian people are protesting against their regime. these *******s are just stealing and looting and, again, they`ll get away with it.:mad::td:

Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35285127)

not allowed to shout mate

Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35285129)

I would never agree with live rounds on civilians but the use of plastic bullets and bean bags which are are non lethal is an option.

all the hand wringers can bleat all they want but i bet they would not be so soft if it was there house or shop being looted.

---------- Post added at 22:08 ---------- Previous post was at 22:07 ----------



Is it against there Human Rights :LOL:

Originally Posted by budwieser (Post 35285126)

I was then one who said use live rounds.
The Libyan and syrian people are protesting against their regime. these *******s are just stealing and looting and, again, they`ll get away with it.:mad::td:

Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35285121)

Well clearly the 30,000 Police officers in London are not managing Maggy, so what do we do next?

Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 35285136)

,we don't shoot people unless of course they have guns and use them.Then we leave it to the armed police.

Originally Posted by wwe (Post 35285110)

why they rioting in bimingham for?

Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 35285136)

Oh come on Mick you would be the first to shout foul if troops got permission to shoot.
We use the law and prosecute ,we don't shoot people unless of course they have guns and use them.Then we leave it to the armed police.Once we use troops to keep order we are no longer a democracy.

Anyway I think we are a long way from total anarchy.Most of the UK's citizens are at home tonight feeling disgusted at the minority copy cats rioters.I should think most are online at the moment or watching TV.;)

---------- Post added at 22:15 ---------- Previous post was at 22:14 ----------

Oh I'm leaving this thread before I really lose it.

Originally Posted by iFrankie (Post 35285149)

Have there been any casualties?

Originally Posted by iFrankie (Post 35285149)

Have there been any casualties?

Originally Posted by budwieser (Post 35285150)

" or watching TV.;)"
Or making sure i can protect my family if it comes this way. ;)

Originally Posted by adzii_nufc (Post 35285152)

Injuries but no known fatalities... How much longer can this go on before Armed Response take proper action.

Terrorism committed by British people on British soil. I don't even know what to say. Due to my age its the first time I've seen something this serious and been able to understand it fully.

Originally Posted by adzii_nufc (Post 35285152)

Injuries but no known fatalities... How much longer can this go on before Armed Response take proper action.

Terrorism committed by British people on British soil. I don't even know what to say. Due to my age its the first time I've seen something this serious and been able to understand it fully.

Originally Posted by Kymmy (Post 35285157)

I was in Moss-Side during the early '80's riots, The local electrical shop got looted.. I remember watching them load up the van with TV's then rush off with their blue lights on

Originally Posted by iFrankie (Post 35285156)

Same, you usually see this kind of thing happen in another country and we think nothing of it but now :/.

I didn't think it was that serious until tonight.

Originally Posted by adzii_nufc (Post 35285160)

Could I get a link or so for a read up? Never heard about any 80's riots until now.

Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 35285136)

Oh come on Mick you would be the first to shout foul if troops got permission to shoot.

Originally Posted by Kymmy (Post 35285157)

I was in Moss-Side during the early '80's riots, The local electrical shop got looted.. I remember watching them load up the van with TV's then rush off with their blue lights on

Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 35285136)

Oh come on Mick you would be the first to shout foul if troops got permission to shoot.
We use the law and prosecute ,we don't shoot people unless of course they have guns and use them.Then we leave it to the armed police.Once we use troops to keep order we are no longer a democracy.

Anyway I think we are a long way from total anarchy.Most of the UK's citizens are at home tonight feeling disgusted at the minority copy cats rioters.I should think most are online at the moment or watching TV.;)

---------- Post added at 22:15 ---------- Previous post was at 22:14 ----------

Oh I'm leaving this thread before I really lose it.

Originally Posted by budwieser (Post 35285161)

" you usually see this kind of thing happen in another country "
We are another country now Frankie.:mad::td: We`re not good old England anymore.! All of our rights and rules went out of the window years ago.:(

Originally Posted by budwieser (Post 35285165)

And whats that comment supposed to mean?
:erm:

Originally Posted by budwieser (Post 35285161)

" you usually see this kind of thing happen in another country "
We are another country now Frankie.:mad::td: We`re not good old England anymore.! All of our rights and rules went out of the window years ago.:(

Originally Posted by Kymmy (Post 35285172)

It was only after the 80's that police became more squeaky clean

Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35285174)

Nope. We're still England and London is still London. Reports in Dalston are that it has calmed down because large numbers of Turkish men are protecting the streets and homes from the mobs. This west Indian woman has a go at some of them here: http://twitvid.com/4JTZH fearless.

London is the home to so many different people and screw the people trying to destroy it.

Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35285174)

London is the home to so many different people and screw the people trying to destroy it.

Originally Posted by adzii_nufc (Post 35285160)

Could I get a link or so for a read up? Never heard about any 80's riots until now.

Those Newcastle one's too if possible :p

Originally Posted by adzii_nufc (Post 35285176)

We are England... they are not. I don't want them as a part of this country, They are a disgrace, No Englishman would commit acts of terror upon his own country!