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howardmicks 10-07-2011 16:23
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35271477)
I think that again, VM are being tight fisted like they always are, VM must know that customers want this channel plus other good rating channels, but they won't budge.

At the present moment they are way behind in customer satisfaction, what will happen when this new company called Real Digital comes out, and they arrange with Sky for the atlantic channel, they have alreasy agreed a fee for the Sports service.
Think tight fisted is a bit harsh,But vm are starting to lag.New content is a mass disappointment and vod is slowly getting behind also,Sky`s anytime + is vastly superior already and even bt`s is looking better.Concentraiting on tivo in the long run will be there downfall if they dont improve what they offer to support it then i think next year they will start to see customers jumping ship to other providers.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by zantarous (Post 35271518)
Carnival was shown years ago on FX

Didn't FX and the BBC both air the Wire?

Wasn't Big Love shown on C4?
only season 1 of big love was shown and it was on five

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Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35271507)
Sky Atlantic will end up on VM defo , the million dollar question is when. I tend to agree with other posters on here about it arriving when Sky switch it to the variety pack.
Wouldn`t say defo matey,When sky offered me another 6 months half price deal the person i spoke to said that it would not be on vm for at least another 12 month maybe never.

TheDon 10-07-2011 16:26
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Quote:
Originally Posted by howardmicks (Post 35271540)
Wouldn`t say defo matey,When sky offered me another 6 months half price deal the person i spoke to said that it would not be on vm for at least another 12 month maybe never.
They were saying the same about sky basics when we lost them.
The people on the phones know nothing about the negotiations going on and will say anything to get you to sign back up.

zantarous 10-07-2011 16:31
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Thing is if Cable bend over and take it from behind Sky will always be able to one up them, if they play hardball then in the long run they get better deals. we may have lost the Sky basics for 18 months but they came back at a price that was good for the consumer.

Also a lot has changed since then with regards to peoples viewing habits. Had this been a pre broadband era I would have jumped ship to get access to Atlantic content.

muppetman11 10-07-2011 16:33
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheDon (Post 35271546)
They were saying the same about sky basics when we lost them.
The people on the phones know nothing about the negotiations going on and will say anything to get you to sign back up.
Exactly take what they say with a pinch of salt :D I got a courtesy call after joining Sky to find my thoughts on the service , the guy said he believed that Sky were talking of adding around another 20 HD channels by the end of the year and.possibly another sky sports channel. There has been NHK HD and Disney channel HD (Sept 16th) so 20 seems optimistic.

denphone 10-07-2011 16:35
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Quote:
Originally Posted by howardmicks (Post 35271540)
Think tight fisted is a bit harsh,But vm are starting to lag.New content is a mass disappointment and vod is slowly getting behind also,Sky`s anytime + is vastly superior already and even bt`s is looking better.Concentraiting on tivo in the long run will be there downfall if they dont improve what they offer to support it then i think next year they will start to see customers jumping ship to other providers.

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only season 1 of big love was shown and it was on five
Sorry but l disagree with you totally on these matters because concentrating on the tivo was a very wise move by Virgin as this is the must have set top box which in the next year will hit Sky's offering for six as it will have plenty of apps and that these apps will have will have a lot of good content on them as we are already seeing at the moment and with the spotify deal just signed as well and with many other deals in the wind as well.
Secondly to say that Sky;s on demand offering is better then Virgins video on demand is well a huge exaggeration that does not stand up.
As for customers jumping ship well l think you are deluding yourself there as well as that will simply not happen and also Virgin will l suspect add quite a few new channels in the second half of this year as well.

muppetman11 10-07-2011 17:04
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Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35271552)
Sorry but l disagree with you totally on these matters because concentrating on the tivo was a very wise move by Virgin as this is the must have set top box which in the next year will hit Sky's offering for six as it will have plenty of apps and that these apps will have will have a lot of good content on them as we are already seeing at the moment and with the spotify deal just signed as well and with many other deals in the wind as well.
Secondly to say that Sky;s on demand offering is better then Virgins video on demand is well a huge exaggeration that does not stand up.
As for customers jumping ship well l think you are deluding yourself there as well as that will simply not happen and also Virgin will l suspect add quite a few new channels in the second half of this year as well.
Well said Den :D:D:D I take it your referring to the Harry Potter app.

Henkesghost 10-07-2011 17:15
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Den, not having a pop at you but when I was a regular visitor to this forum you seemed quite negative about virgin's tv output (tended to agree with most of what you said), but having viewed your posts over the past couple of days you seem pretty positive that virgin will soon add a few channels. What do you base this thought on? Or has Hugh bought you off?;)

Only kiddin Hugh:D

denphone 10-07-2011 17:31
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Henkesghost (Post 35271559)
Den, not having a pop at you but when I was a regular visitor to this forum you seemed quite negative about virgin's tv output (tended to agree with most of what you said), but having viewed your posts over the past couple of days you seem pretty positive that virgin will soon add a few channels. What do you base this thought on? Or has Hugh bought you off?;)

Only kiddin Hugh:D
My thoughts are based on several bits of information one was on the comments made by Neil Berkett several months ago where he stated they were hoping to have quite a few more HD channels by the end of the year and l see no reason to not believe him on this matter also there are strong rumours that Virgin will add quite a few more SD channels in the coming months as well as have been speculated on this forum and as the old saying goes there is no smoke without fire usually and by the way Hugh could not afford me anyway as l have a huge entourage to pay as well.;):D;)

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35271557)
Well said Den :D:D:D I take it your referring to the Harry Potter app.
No and you know as well as l do that there are plenty of apps coming to the tivo as was said by Cindy Rose a little while back and l see no reason not to believe that.

Digital Fanatic 10-07-2011 17:37
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Quote:
Originally Posted by zantarous (Post 35271488)
I can't think of any HBO shows that were on demand before they aired on TV.

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Sounds like what Freesat should have been in the first place.
I know "The Comeback" with Lisa Kudrow was shown exclusively too on VM's HBO OD service, I'm sure there were others such as documentaries too.

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Originally Posted by kenoliver (Post 35271491)
Really

"The Wire" series 2,3,4, series 3 & 4 coming on Atlantic
"Carnival" never been aired yet, just coming on Atlantic
"Big Love" series 1
"Love Me" never been aired
" Taxi Cab Confessions" never been aired
"In Therapy" about to come to Atlantic

There are more, yes there really are
correct

Henkesghost 10-07-2011 17:45
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Hope yer right Den:)

denphone 10-07-2011 17:51
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Henkesghost (Post 35271574)
Hope yer right Den:)
You have to be more positive Henkesghost.:);):)

Joedm45 10-07-2011 18:01
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Am I the only one who thinks that when Sky Atlantic moves to the variety pack nothing will change with regards to VM getting the channel?!

I obviously don't have access to Sky's subscription figures but it is a reasonable assumption that a very high percentage of its customers already sub to the variety pack and so it will have little or no impact on viewing figures/advertising revenue etc.

So what is the big deal with this move as lots of people are expecting things to change. Unless I've missed something :confused:

muppetman11 10-07-2011 18:18
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This is my take on VM

TIVO is a very intelligent box with some advanced features , yes there are a few glitches but once ironed out it will offer a different experience to Sky and BT , if you add in a couple of key channels like Sky Atlantic , ESPNA HD , Nat Geo Wild HD and Universal HD you suddenly have an intelligent box with key content for it to find.

zantarous 10-07-2011 18:43
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Joedm45 (Post 35271584)
Am I the only one who thinks that when Sky Atlantic moves to the variety pack nothing will change with regards to VM getting the channel?!
Actually I don't even think there will be a verity pack anymore come September, if the rumours are true Sky will offering a Virgin style large and extra large pack.

But yes I agree I don't expect it, at least not in HD, any time soon.

HDFootyMan 10-07-2011 19:02
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. III.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35271477)
I think that again, VM are being tight fisted like they always are, VM must know that customers want this channel plus other good rating channels, but they won't budge.
Good.

I'd rather they negotiate properly for a new channel, rather than accept the initial asking price set by Sky which could lead to price rises just for 1 or 2 channels.

Media Boy UK 10-07-2011 19:29
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Coming Soon to Virgin TV - Vol. VI launches in September.

Henkesghost 10-07-2011 19:49
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Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35271578)
You have to be more positive Henkesghost.:);):)
:D

Was only kidding re the buying off thing Hugh, hope u r well mate.

Chad 10-07-2011 20:09
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As previously posted Amir Khan Vs. Zab Judah will be shown on PPV channel Primetime on the 23rd July 2011 for £14.95 and will be on Virgin.

What I'm not happy about is last night Primetime broadcast Lucien Bute vs John Paul Mendy for the IBF Super Middleweight Title live from Romania free of charge. The show started at 7:00pm and was shown on SKY channel 480. Does anyone know why this wasn't carried by Virgin?

It's the same situation as Cage Warriors MMA on Premier Sports. This is shown every month free of charge on SKY, but we can't get access to it via Virgin.

It's so annoying when broadcasters are giving out freebies, and we keep missing out :(

Arthurgray50@blu 10-07-2011 21:15
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Lets put it this way, why should VM get channels on the cheap, when Sky customers pay a fortune to get the channels they want.

VM want channels on the cheap it is as simple as that, when Atlantic was offered to VM at a 'realistic price' VM said no.

Therefore, that should be the answer in future, l get so fed up with this battle with VM and Sky over channel cost's etc, VM can go out and get channels from other broadcastors, they don't need to go to Sky all the time.

VM customers want channels and they contact VM all the time and they don't get it, VM make promises they don't keep.

HDFootyMan 10-07-2011 21:19
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35271750)
Lets put it this way, why should VM get channels on the cheap, when Sky customers pay a fortune to get the channels they want.
Don't VM customers pay more for Sky Sports then Sky customers?

As far as I know, VM actually make a loss on any TV package which includes Sky Premium channels, due to Sky charging them so much. This may have changed after the Pay-TV review (in which Sky didn't come out smelling like roses after OFCOM ripped them a new one).

denphone 10-07-2011 21:23
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. III.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35271750)
Lets put it this way, why should VM get channels on the cheap, when Sky customers pay a fortune to get the channels they want.

VM want channels on the cheap it is as simple as that, when Atlantic was offered to VM at a 'realistic price' VM said no.

Therefore, that should be the answer in future, l get so fed up with this battle with VM and Sky over channel cost's etc, VM can go out and get channels from other broadcastors, they don't need to go to Sky all the time.

VM customers want channels and they contact VM all the time and they don't get it, VM make promises they don't keep.
Sorry Arthur but you are going overboard again because where do you get the thinking that Virgin want channels on the cheap, Sky Atlantic was offered to Virgin at a grossly inflated price which any company who is sensible would not pay that price and remember it is Sky who will eventually come to Virgin to negotiate a price as they did over the Sky Basics fiasco and they have never made any promises in which they have not delivered on other things.

richard1960 10-07-2011 21:42
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Quote:
Originally Posted by HDFootyMan (Post 35271755)
Don't VM customers pay more for Sky Sports then Sky customers?

As far as I know, VM actually make a loss on any TV package which includes Sky Premium channels, due to Sky charging them so much. This may have changed after the Pay-TV review (in which Sky didn't come smelling like roses after OFCOM ripped them a new one).
Indeed sky sports on vm is £2 more expensive then with sky £20.50 vs £22.50 hardly getting sky premiums on the cheap.

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 I see sky atlantic are starting a new series called"fish town" looks ike an english fishing town,hardly atlantic " unless they mean north atlantic.:D

Lew 10-07-2011 21:48
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. III.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35271750)
VM want channels on the cheap it is as simple as that, when Atlantic was offered to VM at a 'realistic price' VM said no.
You keep saying this, Arthur. How about you answer my question?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lew (Post 35271508)
Explain why it's not on the other digital platforms then, Arthur. Are they all being tight fisted as well?

howardmicks 10-07-2011 21:52
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Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35271757)
Sorry Arthur but you are going overboard again because where do you get thinking that Virgin want channels on the cheap, Sky Atlantic was offered to Virgin at a grossly inflated price which any company who is sensible would not pay that price and remember it is Sky who will eventually come to Virgin to negotiate a price as they did over the Sky Basics fiasco and they have never made any promises in which they have not delivered on other things.
Love to know where you get yer info regarding sky will eventually come to vm to negotiate the price (where you in the meetings) vm lost customers due to losing the sky basic channels,They needed them back as much as sky for advertising.As for grossly inflated price thats vm opinion,We dont know the true facts and never will.Peeps are quick to blame sky for vm not having new content,But where`s the others then are they also offered at inflated prices (eg universal hd,Disney channels?)

richard1960 10-07-2011 21:53
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No other platform is likely to get atlantic whist it remains free to sky subs, sky say they offer it to other patforms but probably overpice it to make sure,we are only likely to see it on vm once it goes into skys paid for packs,in august i think.

denphone 10-07-2011 22:00
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Quote:
Originally Posted by howardmicks (Post 35271782)
Love to know where you get yer info regarding sky will eventually come to vm to negotiate the price (where you in the meetings) vm lost customers due to losing the sky basic channels,They needed them back as much as sky for advertising.As for grossly inflated price thats vm opinion,We dont know the true facts and never will.Peeps are quick to blame sky for vm not having new content,But where`s the others then are they also offered at inflated prices (eg universal hd,Disney channels?)
Sky overestimate the prices that they believe they can get for their channels and remember it was Sky feeling the pain when it came to the Sky Basics fiasco as when the deal was eventually done Sky had to back down on the money they got from Virgin quite a bit.
On the issue of Disney and Universal HD l am sure they will come soon to the Virgin platform and you have to remember it takes longer for channels to come to Virgin because both companies have to agree a price.

alwaysabear 10-07-2011 22:04
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Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35271786)
Sky overestimate the prices that they believe they can get for their channels and remember it was Sky feeling the pain when it came to the Sky Basics fiasco as when the deal was eventually done Sky had to back down on the money they got from Virgin quite a bit.
On the issue of Disney and Universal HD l am sure they will come soon to the Virgin platform and you have to remember it takes longer for channels to come to Virgin because both companies have to agree a price.
Just like ESPN America HD that we have been waiting for a year now, with VM it is always coming soon:rolleyes:

denphone 10-07-2011 22:10
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Quote:
Originally Posted by alwaysabear (Post 35271787)
Just like ESPN America HD that we have been waiting for a year now, with VM it is always coming soon:rolleyes:

Why are you blaming Virgin as for all we know ESPN could be asking a silly price for this channel and remember your current ESPN channels are on the XL pack and with Sky you have to pay a extra £9 to have ESPN on top of your Sky Sports sub.

richard1960 10-07-2011 22:11
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Quote:
Originally Posted by alwaysabear (Post 35271787)
Just like ESPN America HD that we have been waiting for a year now, with VM it is always coming soon:rolleyes:
We waited nearly 9 months for Sky arts HD after they were announed,heres hoping they get ESPN America HD for you "soon".not just "coming soon":erm:

howardmicks 10-07-2011 22:14
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Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35271786)
Sky overestimate the prices that they believe they can get for their channels and remember it was Sky feeling the pain when it came to the Sky Basics fiasco as when the deal was eventually done Sky had to back down on the money they got from Virgin quite a bit.
On the issue of Disney and Universal HD l am sure they will come soon to the Virgin platform and you have to remember it takes longer for channels to come to Virgin because both companies have to agree a price.
I agree with a lot you are saying,I have both products and that is due to great discount deals.But we are the customers who pay in order for both these companies to keep going.I just wish both companies could work to together better and supply all content on both formats then we could decide which to opt with like utility companies.
Sadly that looks like it will never happen :(

denphone 10-07-2011 22:18
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Quote:
Originally Posted by howardmicks (Post 35271791)
I agree with a lot you are saying,I have both products and that is due to great discount deals.But we are the customers who pay in order for both these companies to keep going.I just wish both companies could work to together better and supply all content on both formats then we could decide which to opt with like utility companies.
Sadly that looks like it will never happen :(
And not being bias but Sky are a very difficult and greedy company to deal with in negotiations as they always seem to want one over on Virgin and l cannot see their attitude changing any time soon.

alwaysabear 10-07-2011 22:20
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Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35271789)
Why are you blaming Virgin as for all we know ESPN could be asking a silly price for this channel and remember your current ESPN channels are on the XL pack and with Sky you have to pay a extra £9 to have ESPN on top of your Sky Sports sub.
I just wish they would deliver some new content, it is becoming rather boring on here for us non TiVo users.

denphone 10-07-2011 22:22
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Quote:
Originally Posted by alwaysabear (Post 35271794)
I just wish they would deliver some new content, it is becoming rather boring on here for us non TiVo users.
l am sure your patience will be rewarded in the coming months and you don't know what you are missing with not having a tivo.

alwaysabear 10-07-2011 22:25
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Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35271798)
l am sure your patience will be rewarded in the coming months and you don't know what you are missing with not having a tivo.
Its not for me. I do not record enough to make use of it.

denphone 10-07-2011 22:27
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Quote:
Originally Posted by alwaysabear (Post 35271799)
Its not for me. I do not record enough to make use of it.
The tivo is more then just a recording box and that will be shown in the next year.

Lew 10-07-2011 22:30
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Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35271789)
Why are you blaming Virgin as for all we know ESPN could be asking a silly price for this channel…
I have a feeling that's probably the case, considering how few providers across Europe are carrying the HD channel.

richard1960 10-07-2011 22:35
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Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35271801)
The tivo is more then just a recording box and that will be shown in the next year.
I think you are right denphone,but its not for me until it gets reminders and red button services,the recording space i am not too bothered about as i live on my own and do not need lots of hours of it.

Chad 10-07-2011 22:38
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Does anyone know what the viewing figures for ESPN America are on Virgin? Could it be the channel doesn't attract enough viewing figures to justify Virgin shelling out more to land the HD variant?

For the sake of our American sports fans I hope it does come soon however I'm really beginning to doubt it. Let's wait and see if ESPN 2 and ESPN News launches in the next 8 to 10 weeks. If these channels launch then a new carriage deal will be needed, which might signal the arrival to ESPN America HD.

winkle 10-07-2011 22:44
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35271806)
Does anyone know what the viewing figures for ESPN America are on Virgin? Could it be the channel doesn't attract enough viewing figures to justify Virgin shelling out more to land the HD variant?

For the sake of our American sports fans I hope it does come soon however I'm really beginning to doubt it. Let's wait and see if ESPN 2 and ESPN News launches in the next 8 to 10 weeks. If these channels launch then a new carriage deal will be needed, which might signal the arrival to ESPN America HD.
Have been told to expect it in time for new season along with red button.

alwaysabear 10-07-2011 22:45
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Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35271801)
The tivo is more then just a recording box and that will be shown in the next year.
I have read Tivo can be loaded onto my Cisco VHD box so we shall see. Also no red button and reminders are a bit of a turn off. I also like to give new Tech time to bed in as I have been caught out in the past with teething problems. As I have seen from here and other forums I was not wrong in staying clear.

Chad 10-07-2011 22:49
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Quote:
Originally Posted by winkle (Post 35271808)
Have been told to expect it in time for new season along with red button.
That will be awesome. I have heard however that Premier Sports where in talks with Virgin last week, and the buzz is Premier sports will be coming soon to the XL package. Let's hope it's not as a replacement for ESPN. I've always been worried that when ESPN 2 and ESPN News launches the current ESPN channels would drop out of the XL package and we'd need to start paying a monthly subscription if we wanted to keep the ESPN channels.

Personally for me, because of their boxing coverage, I'd actually prefer Premier Sports to ESPN in my XL package. It's all rumours at this stage however there tends to be a sliver of truth in every story.

howardmicks 10-07-2011 23:05
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Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35271793)
And not being bias but Sky are a very difficult and greedy company to deal with in negotiations as they always seem to want one over on Virgin and l cannot see their attitude changing any time soon.
Well thats expected with murdoch`s being part owners of the company,Just hope they don`t get full control.Think that`s when vm really have to worry !!!!!

alwaysabear 10-07-2011 23:09
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Quote:
Originally Posted by howardmicks (Post 35271819)
Well thats expected with murdoch`s being part owners of the company,Just hope they don`t get full control.Think that`s when vm really have to worry !!!!!
If it was not for the vast amount of debt VM is carrying he would probably have a go at buying VM as well to create overall monopoly:D

howardmicks 10-07-2011 23:42
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Quote:
Originally Posted by alwaysabear (Post 35271823)
If it was not for the vast amount of debt VM is carrying he would probably have a go at buying VM as well to create overall monopoly:D
No doubt

thunderlips 10-07-2011 23:54
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Quote:
Originally Posted by alwaysabear (Post 35271823)
If it was not for the vast amount of debt VM is carrying he would probably have a go at buying VM as well to create overall monopoly:D
how much debt as virgin got ? and i thought they got a big tax refund not so long ago ?

LondonRoad 11-07-2011 02:09
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Quote:
Originally Posted by alwaysabear (Post 35271823)
If it was not for the vast amount of debt VM is carrying he would probably have a go at buying VM as well to create overall monopoly:D
That's exactly what he's trying to do if you listen to his voicemails. :angel:

denphone 11-07-2011 06:28
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Quote:
Originally Posted by howardmicks (Post 35271819)
Well thats expected with murdoch`s being part owners of the company,Just hope they don`t get full control.Think that`s when vm really have to worry !!!!!
There is more chance of man landing on Mars then of Murdoch getting his grubby hands on Virgin.

Media Boy UK 11-07-2011 12:42
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Media Boy updates on new channel info.

I have no news on any channels launching on Virgin TV any time soon but when I do know anything I will post it here or on my Virgin Media Blog.

dgcarter 11-07-2011 13:12
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Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35271878)
There is more chance of man landing on Mars then of Murdoch getting his grubby hands on Virgin.
Actually about the same chance. They're both 'coming soon'.

denphone 11-07-2011 13:27
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dgcarter (Post 35271965)
Actually about the same chance. They're both 'coming soon'.
Oh so positive we are.:rolleyes:

Media Boy UK 11-07-2011 17:31
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Turner Broadcasting System to rebrand Turner Classic Movies.

Media Web site C21 is reporting that the UK feed of Turner Broadcasting System's film network Turner Classic Movies will be rebranded soon on Virgin Channel 415.

Stephen 11-07-2011 18:29
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35272063)
Turner Broadcasting System to rebrand Turner Classic Movies.

Media Web site C21 is reporting that the UK feed of Turner Broadcasting System's film network Turner Classic Movies will be rebranded soon on Virgin Channel 415.
What will it rebrand to?

Pair of Ducks 11-07-2011 18:58
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 35272084)
What will it rebrand to?
It's gonna rebrand to TNT

Would make sense since they show more than just Classic Movies these days.

Lew 11-07-2011 19:21
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Didn't it rebrand to TCM from TNT in the first place? I wonder if they'll bother to start broadcasting in widescreen when they rebrand.

Media Boy UK 11-07-2011 19:50
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 35272084)
What will it rebrand to?
I only got to see the Headline as C21 is an pay to view web site.

ash88uk 11-07-2011 19:51
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Waiting for new channels seems a age.

Do Virgin Media constantly try to improve there TV services?

I think I might go to Sky when my contract ends. I worked out I'm only saving a few pound by staying with Virgin when I done a "build your own bundle" on Sky Sports website. Plus I will get the red button service.

denphone 11-07-2011 19:57
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. III.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ash88uk (Post 35272132)
Waiting for new channels seems a age.

Do Virgin Media constantly try to improve there TV services?

I think I might go to Sky when my contract ends. I worked out I'm only saving a few pound by staying with Virgin when I done a "build your own bundle" on Sky Sports website.
Virgin Media are always trying to improve their tv service and if you look at what they have done in the last year like you will see that

30 HD channels including Sky premium HD channels
Sky Sports red button to launch fully at start of August
Tivo state of the art STB launch
Virgin deal with Spotify
And several other things as well.
And more channels to launch in second half of year

Media Boy UK 11-07-2011 20:12
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ash88uk (Post 35272132)
Waiting for new channels seems a age.

Do Virgin Media constantly try to improve there TV services?

I think I might go to Sky when my contract ends. I worked out I'm only saving a few pound by staying with Virgin when I done a "build your own bundle" on Sky Sports website. Plus I will get the red button service.
I think that ''bandle'' deal will end at the end of August when Sky cut their ''Famliy bandles'' from SIX packages to TWO packages on September 1st.

(Info in this post is from DS Forums).

---------- Post added at 19:12 ---------- Previous post was at 18:58 ----------

Here link: http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showthread.php?t=1490842

howardmicks 11-07-2011 20:53
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35272138)
I think that ''bandle'' deal will end at the end of August when Sky cut their ''Famliy bandles'' from SIX packages to TWO packages on September 1st.

(Info in this post is from DS Forums).

---------- Post added at 19:12 ---------- Previous post was at 18:58 ----------

Here link: http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showthread.php?t=1490842
there also dropping the the hd charge for each box only £10.25 for hd for all yer boxes,Now working out better deal than vm

OLD BOY 11-07-2011 20:54
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. III.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ash88uk (Post 35272132)
Waiting for new channels seems a age.

Do Virgin Media constantly try to improve there TV services?

I think I might go to Sky when my contract ends. I worked out I'm only saving a few pound by staying with Virgin when I done a "build your own bundle" on Sky Sports website. Plus I will get the red button service.
Well, just bear in mind that whilst Sky have more channels, Virgin Media have the best on demand system and Sky don't have catch up TV.

There will be developments during the course of this year on VM, and the TIVO box is well worth considering. Much better than Sky can offer, IMO.

denphone 11-07-2011 21:01
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35272154)
Well, just bear in mind that whilst Sky have more channels, Virgin Media have the best on demand system and Sky don't have catch up TV.

There will be developments during the course of this year on VM, and the TIVO box is well worth considering. Much better than Sky can offer, IMO.
And l concur with that.:clap:

Rillington 11-07-2011 22:19
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lew (Post 35272114)
Didn't it rebrand to TCM from TNT in the first place? I wonder if they'll bother to start broadcasting in widescreen when they rebrand.
Yes. TNT launched in the UK in 1993 as a evening/overnight classic film channel, sharing transponder space with Cartoon Network.

When Sky Digital launched, TCM was launched on that platform and TNT continued as an evening-only service and became a general entertainment channel broadcasting on analogue satellite (I don't think TNT ever laucnhed on Sky Digital). TNT closed in around 2000.

Charliedontsurf 11-07-2011 22:35
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. III.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35272154)
Well, just bear in mind that whilst Sky have more channels, Virgin Media have the best on demand system and Sky don't have catch up TV.

There will be developments during the course of this year on VM, and the TIVO box is well worth considering. Much better than Sky can offer, IMO.

I agree with everything you have said(apart from your opinion and Anyitme+ has more content than vm ondemand) and later in the year when the Tivo developments you mention are released I hope you really enjoy them.

Obviously as you have stated sky have more channels and my family really enjoy channels that are currently only on sky

Jameseh 12-07-2011 00:10
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. III.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by howardmicks (Post 35272153)
there also dropping the the hd charge for each box only £10.25 for hd for all yer boxes,Now working out better deal than vm
So despite the fact we get HD for free and additional boxes are only £6.25 per month, Sky is supposedly a better deal? They should be shot for charging £20.50 for years not plauded for still charging £4 more than Virgin.


Quote:
Originally Posted by Charliedontsurf
Obviously as you have stated sky have more channels and my family really enjoy channels that are currently only on sky
Sky 3D
Sky Atlantic
Food Network
MGM HD
Al Jazeera English
Investigation Discovery

So out of the six respectable channels Sky have that Virgin don't that aren't just +1 or HD, which are the ones your family "really enjoys"? All I see is one popular channel and a overhyped tech demo.

howardmicks 12-07-2011 00:54
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. III.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jameseh (Post 35272258)
So despite the fact we get HD for free and additional boxes are only £6.25 per month, Sky is supposedly a better deal? They should be shot for charging £20.50 for years not plauded for still charging £4 more than Virgin.




Sky 3D
Sky Atlantic
Food Network
MGM HD
Al Jazeera English
Investigation Discovery

So out of the six respectable channels Sky have that Virgin don't that aren't just +1 or HD, which are the ones your family "really enjoys"? All I see is one popular channel and a overhyped tech demo.
all i was meaning was that vm charge £7 per box for movies and sports so if you have 2 boxes thats £14 with sky it will now be £10.25 for a far superior range of HD Channels,Bit of a cheek to force vm to charge £7 per box(and you aint getting all the sports hd for that)then drop the price so there customers only pay 1 charge

Hugh 12-07-2011 07:34
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Let's keep it friendly, please - derogatory terms are not necessary

passingbat 12-07-2011 08:11
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Quote:
Originally Posted by howardmicks (Post 35272267)
all i was meaning was that vm charge £7 per box for movies and sports so if you have 2 boxes thats £14 with sky it will now be £10.25 for a far superior range of HD Channels,Bit of a cheek to force vm to charge £7 per box(and you aint getting all the sports hd for that)then drop the price so there customers only pay 1 charge
But as I understand it, that £7 charge is levied by Sky. As Sky's charge per box is changing, is it's likely VM's will also?

denphone 12-07-2011 08:31
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Quote:
Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35272283)
But as I understand it, that £7 charge is levied by Sky. As Sky's charge per box is changing, is it's likely VM's will also?
Yes lets hope that is the case Passingbat.

richard1960 12-07-2011 08:53
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Quote:
Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35272283)
But as I understand it, that £7 charge is levied by Sky. As Sky's charge per box is changing, is it's likely VM's will also?
I would think it may depend on the agreement vm have in place for the carriage of sky sports/movie HD channels,just because skys price is changing does not necessarily follow vms will be.

Although for those that sub to them i hope they do.

denphone 12-07-2011 09:06
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Quote:
Originally Posted by richard1960 (Post 35272289)
I would think it may depend on the agreement vm have in place for the carriage of sky sports/movie HD channels,just because skys price is changing does not necessarily follow vms will be.

Although for those that sub to them i hope they do.
Well it would be business madness for Virgin not to follow the same pricing as Sky if Sky do decide to change their pricing on this.

andrewbrown 12-07-2011 09:20
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. III.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35272291)
Well it would be business madness for Virgin not to follow the same pricing as Sky if Sky do decide to change their pricing on this.
Except that the decision to charge per box originally was Sky's, not VM's...

richard1960 12-07-2011 09:26
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. III.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35272291)
Well it would be business madness for Virgin not to follow the same pricing as Sky if Sky do decide to change their pricing on this.
Sorry denphone yes it would be i know,but virgin sign carriage agreements with companies supplying channels say if they signed for example a five year carriage agreement with sky to supply sports movies HD for £7 a month per box,unless sky say we will re-negotiate there would be very little room for vm to manoeuvre.

Not saying that is the case and i hope its not but there must be a written agreement around somewhere.

Charliedontsurf 12-07-2011 09:32
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. III.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jameseh (Post 35272258)
So despite the fact we get HD for free and additional boxes are only £6.25 per month, Sky is supposedly a better deal? They should be shot for charging £20.50 for years not plauded for still charging £4 more than Virgin.




Sky 3D
Sky Atlantic
Food Network
MGM HD
Al Jazeera English
Investigation Discovery

So out of the six respectable channels Sky have that Virgin don't that aren't just +1 or HD, which are the ones your family "really enjoys"? All I see is one popular channel and a overhyped tech demo.
Our family watch..

CBS
Nickleodeon HD
Disney XD-HD
ITV2 HD
Natgeo wild HD

Amongst many other channels but thats a few that arent on VM.

Infact now you've made me stop and think about it, there is actually quite a lot of extra content in HD we all really enjoy. I did have VM tv fitted about 6 months ago I HAD vip50, but the family hated the loss of HD content and the tiny HDD ON THE v+HD was a real problem how VM got away with suppling such a small HDD in its PVR is a scandal. I missed the Sky sports red button and SKYSPORTS 3&4 in HD.

I'm now back with sky but hey, this is just slightly off topic lol.

Jameseh 12-07-2011 11:06
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. III.
 
Obviously if they were just watching the SD version they just couldn't enjoy the show.

Charliedontsurf 12-07-2011 11:53
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. III.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jameseh (Post 35272315)
Obviously if they were just watching the SD version they just couldn't enjoy the show.
So what else is coming soon to Virginmedia? After all that is the thread topic.

Henkesghost 12-07-2011 12:26
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. III.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Charliedontsurf (Post 35272324)
So what else is coming soon to Virginmedia? After all that is the thread topic.

Think you know the answer to that one.

Jameseh 12-07-2011 13:30
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. III.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Charliedontsurf (Post 35272324)
So what else is coming soon to Virginmedia? After all that is the thread topic.
Within the next 12 months I'd say;
Sky 3D
Sky Atlantic
Food Network
MGM HD
Al Jazeera English
Investigation Discovery

Not that anyone really wants those channels...

Oh and after all the title of the sub-forum is, you know, Virgin Media TV Service, that you don't want or have, so why are you here?

virginruinedntl 12-07-2011 14:25
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I still don't understand why they don't have RussiaToday or Aljazeera, its been said for over 1yr in these forums that those might be coming soon. There is clearly lots of bandwidth, they must surely be losing customers due to having alot less channels than sky.

Rillington 12-07-2011 14:51
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. III.
 
I also would find it impossible to believe that VM is not loosing customers due to what seems to be VM's policy of not adding new television channels.

Right now, there must be at least half a dozen channels that I can receive through the aeriel, channels which are also available on Freesat as well as Sky Digital, which are not broadcasting on VM.

Jameseh 12-07-2011 15:11
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. III.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rillington (Post 35272364)
I also would find it impossible to believe that VM is not loosing customers due to what seems to be VM's policy of not adding new television channels.

Right now, there must be at least half a dozen channels that I can receive through the aeriel, channels which are also available on Freesat as well as Sky Digital, which are not broadcasting on VM.
Its free for broadcasters to be on Freesat and Freeview and I'm sure Sky pay for most broadcasters if not all. Virgin have to host these channels themselves over the only uk wide DVB-C network that they have to monitor and control. Hence why Sky is littered with rubbish channels and Virgin only consists of known name channels from relatively known broadcasters.

alwaysabear 12-07-2011 15:26
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rillington (Post 35272364)
I also would find it impossible to believe that VM is not loosing customers due to what seems to be VM's policy of not adding new television channels.

Right now, there must be at least half a dozen channels that I can receive through the aeriel, channels which are also available on Freesat as well as Sky Digital, which are not broadcasting on VM.
It seems to me that VM regard TiVo as the holy grail and that it will make up for its deficiencies in other areas. :(

Andrewcrawford23 12-07-2011 15:34
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how many channel have sky added recently ;) 1 new one in september ;) but we wont see more added to sky until next year ;) i suspect virgin will have more channels by then wont be as much as sky but they will have had added more ;)

Henkesghost 12-07-2011 15:39
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Andrewcrawford23 (Post 35272377)
how many channel have sky added recently ;) 1 new one in september ;) but we wont see more added to sky until next year ;) i suspect virgin will have more channels by then wont be as much as sky but they will have had added more ;)

Sky already have all the channels and all the HD available, therefore they don't have anything to add. They have loads of channels that Virgin don't have that is why Virgin need to get their finger out. :rolleyes:

muppetman11 12-07-2011 15:47
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Andrewcrawford23 (Post 35272377)
how many channel have sky added recently ;) 1 new one in september ;) but we wont see more added to sky until next year ;) i suspect virgin will have more channels by then wont be as much as sky but they will have had added more ;)
:confused: http://www.cable.co.uk/news/selena-g...gig-800615014/

alwaysabear 12-07-2011 15:47
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jameseh (Post 35272372)
Its free for broadcasters to be on Freesat and Freeview and I'm sure Sky pay for most broadcasters if not all. Virgin have to host these channels themselves over the only uk wide DVB-C network that they have to monitor and control. Hence why Sky is littered with rubbish channels and Virgin only consists of known name channels from relatively known broadcasters.
Its certainly not free to be on Sky's EPG this is a link to 2007 prices http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2007...redirect=false

Gavin-D 12-07-2011 15:54
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Didn't VM say they hope to have 30HD channels by a certain time not so long ago?,

I wouldn't worry about the lack of new channels at present, with TiVo been their priority for the past 12 months or so things will hopefully improve during the final 5 months of the Year.

Chad 12-07-2011 16:11
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Can we bring back the Coming Soon to Virgin TV discussion thread that was closed recently? This thread has just reverted back to it's usual free for all. There is value in having 2 threads, one for people who want to read about things that are coming soon and another for those who want to discuss things loosely associated with coming soon.

thunderlips 12-07-2011 16:15
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coming soon probaly another price increase somewhere ! lol

alwaysabear 12-07-2011 16:23
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. III.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35272389)
Can we bring back the Coming Soon to Virgin TV discussion thread that was closed recently? This thread has just reverted back to it's usual free for all. There is value in having 2 threads, one for people who want to read about things that are coming soon and another for those who want to discuss things loosely associated with coming soon.
Is there really any point, nothing is coming soon:(

Pauls9 12-07-2011 16:41
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. III.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by alwaysabear (Post 35272394)
Is there really any point, nothing is coming soon:(
It'd be great to have a thread for what's coming soon that we can monitor for news and another for gossip that we can ignore.

;)

Henkesghost 12-07-2011 16:51
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. III.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35272389)
Can we bring back the Coming Soon to Virgin TV discussion thread that was closed recently? This thread has just reverted back to it's usual free for all. There is value in having 2 threads, one for people who want to read about things that are coming soon and another for those who want to discuss things loosely associated with coming soon.


It's called free speech, and nothing was ever posted on that thread other than a channel was changing it's name. Even MB has found it pointless posting his monthly updates cos there's been hee haw for a year:rolleyes:

denphone 12-07-2011 17:07
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. III.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Henkesghost (Post 35272330)
Think you know the answer to that one.
Come on Lads a little more positivity from you lot would be nice.:rolleyes:

---------- Post added at 16:07 ---------- Previous post was at 16:05 ----------

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jameseh (Post 35272344)
Within the next 12 months I'd say;
Sky 3D
Sky Atlantic
Food Network
MGM HD
Al Jazeera English
Investigation Discovery

Not that anyone really wants those channels...

Oh and after all the title of the sub-forum is, you know, Virgin Media TV Service, that you don't want or have, so why are you here?
Exactly why are they on this forum if all they do is constantly knock Virgin.

Hugh 12-07-2011 17:08
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. III.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Henkesghost (Post 35272405)
It's called free speech, and nothing was ever posted on that thread other than a channel was changing it's name. Even MB has found it pointless posting his monthly updates cos there's been hee haw for a year:rolleyes:
Actually, it's called constant whinging.....;)

denphone 12-07-2011 17:13
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. III.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35272415)
Actually, it's called constant whinging.....;)
Yes and its getting predictable as most of these customers have Sky and yet they seem to constantly have a go at Virgin. As the saying goes good things come to those who wait and l am sure by the end of the year they will not be moaning as much.

Jameseh 12-07-2011 17:14
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Quote:
Originally Posted by alwaysabear (Post 35272383)
Its certainly not free to be on Sky's EPG this is a link to 2007 prices http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2007...redirect=false
Not free then for Sky but I'd say £78,000 still seems heavily subsidized and significantly less than Virgin have to charge.

Hugh 12-07-2011 17:14
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Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35272419)
Yes and its getting predictable as most of these customers have Sky and yet they seem to constantly have a go at Virgin. As the saying goes good things come to those who wait and l am sure by the end of the year they will not be moaning as much.
They are entitled to have their say, but it adds little value, IMHO.

alwaysabear 12-07-2011 17:19
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[QUOTE/COLOR]

Exactly why are they on this forum if all they do is constantly knock Virgin.[/QUOTE]

We all know VM monitor these forums, perhaps they will take on board their customers are not happy at the lack of new content and do something about it ;)

kenoliver 12-07-2011 17:26
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[QUOTE We all know VM monitor these forums, perhaps they will take on board their customers are not happy at the lack of new content and do something about it ;)[/QUOTE]

I think that is a fair point well made by the "Bear"

we all walk life in our own way,

for me I welcome all points of view, irrespective of the fact that I may or may not agree :)

Henkesghost 12-07-2011 17:27
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Quote:
Originally Posted by alwaysabear (Post 35272423)
[/COLOR]

Exactly why are they on this forum if all they do is constantly knock Virgin.
We all know VM monitor these forums, perhaps they will take on board their customers are not happy at the lack of new content and do something about it ;)[/QUOTE]

In a nutshell mate:)

denphone 12-07-2011 17:47
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. III.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35272421)
They are entitled to have their say, but it adds little value, IMHO.
Yes thank god we live in a country which despite its faults believes in free speech and democracy unless its Rupert Murdoch.


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