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devilincarnate 13-05-2011 19:52
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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35235810)
We can have a duet on the X Factor.:D:D:D:D
Can I join you 2 then we could be Larry, Curly and Moe:D:D:D:D

TheDon 13-05-2011 19:53
Re: Virgin Media lack of tv investment
 
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Originally Posted by richard1960 (Post 35235535)
Virgin media are.

http://investors.virginmedia.com/pho...85&p=irol-debt

Current debt as of end of march 2011.
3.7x OCF is nothing.
VM also have £8.6bn in assets.
"deep debt" is not a term that can be used to describe it. Hence why in 2 years their shares have rose 5x in value.

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Well i am not party to wether vm can fund its current operations totally from their current revenue stream
Yes you are.
Their accounts are public.

richard1960 13-05-2011 20:14
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Originally Posted by TheDon (Post 35235839)
3.7x OCF is nothing.
VM also have £8.6bn in assets.
"deep debt" is not a term that can be used to describe it. Hence why in 2 years their shares have rose 5x in value.


Yes you are.
Their accounts are public.
Yes it appears the broadband is drivng cash flow you are correct which makes it all the more puzzling why people are expecting (not me) new channels that are snail pace in arriving.;)

denphone 13-05-2011 20:15
Re: Virgin Media lack of tv investment
 
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Originally Posted by richard1960 (Post 35235866)
Yes it appears the broadband is drivng cash flow you are correct which makes it all the more puzzling why people are expecting (not me) new channels that are snail pace in arriving.;)
Tell the snail to quicken up.:(:(

thedavid2007 13-05-2011 20:16
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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35149234)
In the last year we have seen a total lack of investment on Virgins tv platform, first of all they sold their channels to Sky this deal just gets worse and worse with each passing day and we are still waiting for further Sky hd channels and the Sky red button, to be still waiting 7 months on is nothing short of staggering incompetence and shambolicness, this and a total reluctance to add other new channels suggest to me that Virgin does not give a damn about its tv customers.
I think you'll find they've spent a shed-load of money on the new TV encryption system.

denphone 13-05-2011 20:20
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Whats encryption got to do with it, l think you are missing the points l made in this thread a while back.

devilincarnate 13-05-2011 20:21
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Originally Posted by thedavid2007 (Post 35235870)
I think you'll find they've spent a shed-load of money on the new TV encryption system.
You also forgot about TiVo and 3D, Also there is as you say is the new encryption system that has allowed the SKY PREMIUM HD channels:erm:

LexDiamond 13-05-2011 20:22
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Originally Posted by richard1960 (Post 35235736)
Well i am not party to wether vm can fund its current operations totally from their current revenue stream as i am only joe public,but i will bow to your knowledge on the subject,as i say i am not waiting any new channels i am happy enough now sky sport red button is here.:)[COLOR="Silver"]
You can get their accounts from the investors section and get the info from them regarding how they fund their day to day activities.

Edit: Sorry, I missed The Don already stating the above

devilincarnate 13-05-2011 20:23
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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35235877)
Whats encryption got to do with it, l think you are missing the points l made in this thread a while back.
No they have not as if it was not for the new encryption we would not have the SKY PREMIUM CHANNELS?

richard1960 13-05-2011 20:24
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Originally Posted by LexDiamond (Post 35235882)
You can get their accounts from the investors section and get the info from them regarding how they fund their day to day activities.
Yes thanks may hae a proper browse over the weekend.

denphone 13-05-2011 20:29
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Originally Posted by devilincarnate (Post 35235885)
No they have not as if it was not for the new encryption we would not have the SKY PREMIUM CHANNELS?
Yes thats true.

devilincarnate 13-05-2011 20:31
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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35235892)
Yes thats true.
Hey that is the second thing that we agree on today:D:D:D:D:D

denphone 13-05-2011 20:35
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Originally Posted by devilincarnate (Post 35235896)
Hey that is the second thing that we agree on today:D:D:D:D:D
This has to stop.:mad::mad:

Hugh 13-05-2011 20:40
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Agreed.

(Oh bugger - I'm doing it now....:D).

devilincarnate 13-05-2011 20:41
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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35235908)
This has to stop.:mad::mad:
OK then i will not respond to anyone else if that is the way that the general public looks at it. So all I have to say is ffffffffffff all of you:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::m ad:

denphone 13-05-2011 21:09
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Originally Posted by devilincarnate (Post 35235921)
OK then i will not respond to anyone else if that is the way that the general public looks at it. So all I have to say is ffffffffffff all of you:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::m ad:
What has to stop , us agreeing.:D:D:D

devilincarnate 13-05-2011 21:39
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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35235951)
What has to stop , us agreeing.:D:D:D
No it all

Rillington 13-05-2011 21:46
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Originally Posted by LexDiamond (Post 35235517)
This price increase should IMO be applauded as it is very measured.
I personally don't applaud an inflation-busting 6% price increase with nothing new added since the previous price increase (I'm not including the price increase due to the VAT rise because, as has been said before, that was out of VM's control).

carlwaring 13-05-2011 22:13
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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35235810)
We can have a duet on the X Factor.:D:D:D:D
I seriously considered neg-rep'ing you for that comment :( :p:

Paul 13-05-2011 22:30
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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35235348)
:mad:

l am not in to smear and innuendo and resent that comment and my advice to you is to calm down and have a cup of tea.:mad::mad::mad:
My advice to you is to calm down, atm you are drawing attention to your posts that you really dont want.

thunderlips 13-05-2011 22:51
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i think Vm could do with a few extra channels, got a feeling VM are in talks with other channel providers ( hope so )

muppetman11 13-05-2011 22:58
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Originally Posted by thunderlips (Post 35236013)
i think Vm could do with a few extra channels, got a feeling VM are in talks with other channel providers ( hope so )
More will arrive at some point , HD is a growth market for VM.

thunderlips 13-05-2011 23:01
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i heard VM were in talks with other tv providers ( good for them ) be nice if they get more channels ! and more HD !

Chrysalis 13-05-2011 23:46
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out of curiosity why do VM not air the free premium call adult channels?

carlwaring 14-05-2011 00:38
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Because no contract exists for them to do so. As I mentioned earlier in this thread, anyone can launch a channel on satellite but if that channel wants to be on cable then they have to discuss it with VM and a contract is required.

Oh, and if you want porn, I'd stick the internet. Apparently ;)

Chrysalis 14-05-2011 00:50
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what about freeview? they managed to get on there also.

denphone 14-05-2011 06:29
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Originally Posted by Paul M (Post 35236007)
My advice to you is to calm down, atm you are drawing attention to your posts that you really dont want.
l have no intention of drawing attention to my posts and l have always been very calm and measured with my comments generally.

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Originally Posted by Chrysalis (Post 35236036)
out of curiosity why do VM not air the free premium call adult channels?
Because most viewers are not interested in that type of stuff.:D

LexDiamond 14-05-2011 10:15
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Originally Posted by Rillington (Post 35235970)
I personally don't applaud an inflation-busting 6% price increase with nothing new added since the previous price increase (I'm not including the price increase due to the VAT rise because, as has been said before, that was out of VM's control).
Where did you get 6% from?

I'm not sure how you came to the conclusion that nothing was added between this and the past price increase. I was a customer for just under two years and saw plenty of stuff addded between then and when I left with no prices increasing during that time.

carlwaring 14-05-2011 10:30
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Originally Posted by Chrysalis (Post 35236072)
what about freeview? they managed to get on there also.
Don't know a thing about freeview but I suspect it will be more like satellite than cable.

Rillington 14-05-2011 12:48
Re: Virgin Media lack of tv investment
 
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Originally Posted by LexDiamond (Post 35236160)
Where did you get 6% from?

I'm not sure how you came to the conclusion that nothing was added between this and the past price increase. I was a customer for just under two years and saw plenty of stuff addded between then and when I left with no prices increasing during that time.
An increase of £2 from £35 to £37 works out at a 6% increase.

If anyone can tell me what has been added over the past year apart from ITV1 +1 which would make this 6% more pallitable then I'm all ears.

denphone 14-05-2011 12:53
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Originally Posted by Rillington (Post 35236256)
An increase of £2 from £35 to £37 works out at a 6% increase.

If anyone can tell me what has been added over the past year apart from ITV1 +1 which would make this 6% more pallitable then I'm all ears.
Thats,My point what l have been making for the last year is the distinct lack of SD channels added in what is now becoming a drought.:(:(

LexDiamond 14-05-2011 13:37
Re: Virgin Media lack of tv investment
 
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Originally Posted by Rillington (Post 35236256)
An increase of £2 from £35 to £37 works out at a 6% increase.

If anyone can tell me what has been added over the past year apart from ITV1 +1 which would make this 6% more pallitable then I'm all ears.
Which tv package costs 35?

Rillington 14-05-2011 16:25
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XL plus the basic (cheapest) package telephone line. My monthly bill is £37.49

TheDon 14-05-2011 16:53
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Originally Posted by Rillington (Post 35236410)
XL plus the basic (cheapest) package telephone line. My monthly bill is £37.49
TV XL went up by £1, which was around 4% if taken with a phone line, or 3% without.

LexDiamond 14-05-2011 21:46
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Originally Posted by Rillington (Post 35236410)
XL plus the basic (cheapest) package telephone line. My monthly bill is £37.49
Your entire price rise doesn't relate to tv.

Plus you said in an earlier post that the increase is inflation busting which it is not. In real terms you are probably paying less for your tv now.


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