Originally Posted by Doug P (Post 35150188)

Ok mea culpa on that but then if you cannot pay for a dish what's the point in grumbling about what VM provide?

Originally Posted by EBD3000 (Post 35150248)

There are a variety of reasons people cannot get Sky -

1) Signal black spot due to trees, tall building etc.
2) Landlord would let a tenant put a dish up.
3) Some councils won't let residents put up a dish i.e. Westminster.
4) Some graded buildings cannot have them.
5) Communal dishes may not be set up for Sky+ HD.

Personally I cannot get Sky because of 1).

Originally Posted by borrissey (Post 35150256)

I just don't want a Sky dish on my wall, I'd rather stay with VM and have an ugly dish on my house!

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35150196)

Media Boy EXCLUSIVE: Five to be rebrand next month.

I have been told today by an Virgin insider that Five will be rebranded as Channel 5 on February 14th.

Five will become Channel 5
Five HD will become Channel 5 HD

Then later in February Demand Five will be rebranded.

Digital Channels Fiver and Five USA will follow in March.

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35150096)

New TV Broadcaster Electric Sofa confrim they not launch on Virgin Media.

Still to launch new TV broadcaster Electric Sofa is saying in emails that they are not going to launch Film GB, Sofa Stars or Sofa Screen on Virgin Media due to ''lack of space''.

Originally Posted by Doug P (Post 35150188)

Ok mea culpa on that but then if you cannot pay for a dish what's the point in grumbling about what VM provide?

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35150196)

Media Boy EXCLUSIVE: Five to be rebrand next month.

I have been told today by an Virgin insider that Five will be rebranded as Channel 5 on February 14th.

Five will become Channel 5
Five HD will become Channel 5 HD

Then later in February Demand Five will be rebranded.

Digital Channels Fiver and Five USA will follow in March.

Originally Posted by gadge (Post 35149694)

Media boy it has been reported that itv4 +1 is coming of the sky epg to make room for itv1 +1 but remains on freesat does it also apply to virgin?.

Originally Posted by Andrewcrawford23 (Post 35150265)

If these channels are so vital to these people they will move and make sure they can get sky, yes be nice to have all platforms the same meaning you choose due to price and customer service this is unlikely to ever happen especially tno whilst sky is coronet and platform provider

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i better not let my wife see that might give her reason for me not to get my 1.5m dish :O now standard sky dish aint as ugly as that :p

Originally Posted by mersey70 (Post 35150327)

Isn't watching your favourite TV channels what Pay TV is all about?

There's no point paying for a service that dosen't provide the channels or content you require.

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35150357)

True, but would you really move house just for a particular TV channel?!?!

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35150357)

True, but would you really move house just for a particular TV channel?!?!

Originally Posted by braysoj1 (Post 35150410)

lord mb

u know the news u posted about tna was it just the ppv what wont be shown in the uk

if so how come no other channel has picked it up

Originally Posted by mersey70 (Post 35150359)

Apologies I didn't realise that, I thought they were just talking about moving between providers.

I didn't realise it involved moving house too, I agree it does seem a bit drastic if that is the case.

Originally Posted by Horizon (Post 35150223)

Electric Sofa haven't even secured enough programming to last a few months yet across their channels (which may never launch anyway) so I don't think its too great a loss if they don't come to cable.

Originally Posted by colonelred (Post 35150505)

Pretty ill informed, if the email they sent me is anything to go by, they have already licensed thousands of movies, and a heap of series, and have signed up ITN to provide a daily news show for them. Just hope they manage to launch in Ireland, which is why I mailed them in the first place

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35150550)

Is it me or has it been extremely quiet in Virgin TV news , with the exception of TIVO and even that's been thin on the ground.

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35150551)

I have been told the following today:

-UTV +1 has launch on Virgin Media in Ireland.
-Bravo, Bravo +1, Bravo 2 and Challenge Jackpot will be remove on the EPG on Friday (January 14th).

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35150571)

No news and now your telling us what were losing LOL :-(

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35150627)

I wish some new channels were added instead of all this +1 garbage.

Originally Posted by Digital Fanatic (Post 35150632)

There is a lot of background work being done at the moment... watch this space. ;)

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35150627)

I wish some new channels were added instead of all this +1 garbage.

Originally Posted by Lew (Post 35150694)

+1 channels aren't garbage. Even with a V+ box I still find myself using them a fair bit.

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35150551)

I have been told the following today:

-UTV +1 has launch on Virgin Media in Ireland.
-Bravo, Bravo +1, Bravo 2 and Challenge Jackpot will be remove on the EPG on Friday (January 14th).

Originally Posted by 1701-e (Post 35150591)

utv+1 placeholder on ch114 stating that they start @ 8pm tonight and that you may have to retune your freeview box to receive it!.

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35150602)

I have only been told what I have posted on this forum.

But I think Virgin will reuse the Bravo Channels numbers for Syfy +1, Syfy HD and BBC HD. With Virgin moving the Channel 4 Digital Channels down one to make room for More4 +1 to launch.

Originally Posted by Lew (Post 35150694)

+1 channels aren't garbage. Even with a V+ box I still find myself using them a fair bit.

Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 35150690)

you tease DF

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35150751)

Am I right in thinking that VM intends to release TIVO boxes with smaller HDD in the future ?

Originally Posted by Digital Fanatic (Post 35150755)

Yes. There has been some press about that.

Originally Posted by Digital Fanatic (Post 35150748)

Moi? :angel:

Originally Posted by virginruinedntl (Post 35150835)

i hope they make the EPG widescreen soon, fullscreen is a thing of the past.

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35150848)

I think the TIVO date for installs could be around March as the OD upgrades run unitl mid Feb but I'm just speculating.

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35150920)

Why are VM so thick and stupid, It has put BBC Scotland on the network, an yet they won't be STV on the network, or doesn't VM know that its the same place, it doesn't make sense.

Originally Posted by Ben B (Post 35150925)

There is STV on the network, don't you mean the other way round?

Originally Posted by virginruinedntl (Post 35151048)

the annoying thing about the EPG is that the HD channel are extremely far down the list so if i want to watch BBCHD or ITV1HD i have to scroll down tons, my parents forget there are those channels as they are so far down.

Is there any way to remove the non-hd versions but still be able to get catch-up tv and on demand for those channels when the shows aren't available in HD? Can we re-order the channels manually? I have the samsung V+ box btw.

Originally Posted by wwe (Post 35151056)

doesn't look like much is happening (coming) to virgin

Originally Posted by howardmicks (Post 35151076)

Agree,all they are shouting about is tivo.It channels we want VM !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Originally Posted by virginruinedntl (Post 35151048)

the annoying thing about the EPG is that the HD channel are extremely far down the list so if i want to watch BBCHD or ITV1HD i have to scroll down tons, my parents forget there are those channels as they are so far down.

Is there any way to remove the non-hd versions but still be able to get catch-up tv and on demand for those channels when the shows aren't available in HD? Can we re-order the channels manually? I have the samsung V+ box btw.

Originally Posted by kgollop (Post 35151119)

No but when you go to the TV Guide you can choose Option 8 for HD channels rather than Option 1 (all channels). This is what I do anyway.

Originally Posted by Ben B (Post 35151077)

They can't put channels on that don't exist, except Sky Atlantic, which has a big ? above it. I think we have pretty much all the channels that the majority of people watch now. The only thing they could really add is HD channels and I'm sure they're working on that.

Originally Posted by mersey70 (Post 35151125)

I have all the HD channels stored as my favourites, that way we just have the HD channels we are subscribed to displayed and it only takes a press of the 'fav' button to show them.

The HD channels are all currently all over the place on the Sky EPG, I actually think VM's layout is tidier but Sky are introducing a system where the HD channel swaps places with the SD one (if the broadcaster wishes to and it's practical, it isn't really with regionalised channels) so hopefully VM will look at something simlar.

Originally Posted by Ben B (Post 35151077)

They can't put channels on that don't exist, except Sky Atlantic, which has a big ? above it. I think we have pretty much all the channels that the majority of people watch now. The only thing they could really add is HD channels and I'm sure they're working on that.

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35151260)

Yes, Sky Atlantic is massive in terms of its importance to VM customers. I know that some have said they are not bothered, but the best American series will be on here and it looks like being a prestige channel.

VM are obviously trying to get the best deal for us, which is why an announcement is taking so long, but if a deal cannot be reached, I would be prepared to pay a subscription to receive this channel, much as this goes against the grain.

I would not want to miss out on those programmes. I would rather give up Sky Movies, frankly.

Originally Posted by Andrewcrawford23 (Post 35150265)

If these channels are so vital to these people they will move and make sure they can get sky, yes be nice to have all platforms the same meaning you choose due to price and customer service this is unlikely to ever happen especially tno whilst sky is coronet and platform provider

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i better not let my wife see that might give her reason for me not to get my 1.5m dish :O now standard sky dish aint as ugly as that :p

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35151260)

Yes, Sky Atlantic is massive in terms of its importance to VM customers. I know that some have said they are not bothered, but the best American series will be on here and it looks like being a prestige channel.

VM are obviously trying to get the best deal for us, which is why an announcement is taking so long, but if a deal cannot be reached, I would be prepared to pay a subscription to receive this channel, much as this goes against the grain.

I would not want to miss out on those programmes. I would rather give up Sky Movies, frankly.

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35151288)

Each week Virgin seem to fall further and further behind Sky interms of something being announced and when it is announced we have to wait 6 months to a year to get it, they seem unable to grasp what you have to do to keep customers happy or up to date on things.

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35151288)

Each week Virgin seem to fall further and further behind Sky interms of something being announced and when it is announced we have to wait 6 months to a year to get it, they seem unable to grasp what you have to do to keep customers happy or up to date on things.

Originally Posted by Andrewcrawford23 (Post 35151295)

and again people are that concerned about one channel thety rather let sky win this is hold they have got sucha market they used there money made it peole wnated them and people are so gulloible thye get them now they have that much popel cant do with out it only tv after all

Originally Posted by heavyside (Post 35151286)

The point about Sky Atlantic that's easy to overlook is that Sky have already stated that they are also moving their new and best home-grown drama from Sky One to the new channel. That's going to mean that the likes of the Terry Pratchett and Andy McNab dramas will find a new home there. I, too, hope that VM manage to strike a deal on Sky Atlantic.

Originally Posted by ahardie (Post 35151303)

There isn't much on Sky I now IMHO. In fact there is virtually nothing for me but that is a matter of taste. If they are putting these things on Sky Atlantic then Sky 1 is going to be even more of a barren wasteland. Tonight at peak time they have got Simpsons repeats that are several years old. The fact is that they could have put all the new programmes on Sky 1 & 2. I wonder why they didn't?

Originally Posted by mersey70 (Post 35151305)

I broadly agree re. Sky 1.

By all accounts Sky are looking to considerably beef up their own commissions for Sky 1 and well they should given their track record, it will have a more British feel to it so it could be a win, win for their own customers who have Atlantic too but we will just have to wait and see.

I'd be happy with them investing in more British drama for Sky 1 for now.

Originally Posted by nialli (Post 35151309)

Sky will be advertising the launch of Sky Atlantic at considerable expense, and that, coupled with the the money it has invested in procuring programmes, will mean that they want to keep it exclusive for a period - an expensive ad for Sky Atlantic is also a free ad for Sky.
Once the dust has settled they will probably drop the price for other platforms and we'll see it on Virgin and maybe BT too. I fear that this won't be in time for season 5 of Mad Men, which means I will end up watching my favourite show on my laptop rather than my HD TV :(
Like Old Boy, this channel really appeals to me, but I'm not prepared to switch platforms for it. I still can't quite figure out why Sky didn't add it to the Sky Movies packages (that's how they premiered The Pacific last year) - I would have thought that would have driven more folk to take up more premium subscriptions and paid back quicker - but they've gone a different route, c'est la vie.

Originally Posted by heavyside (Post 35151286)

The point about Sky Atlantic that's easy to overlook is that Sky have already stated that they are also moving their new and best home-grown drama from Sky One to the new channel. That's going to mean that the likes of the Terry Pratchett and Andy McNab dramas will find a new home there. I, too, hope that VM manage to strike a deal on Sky Atlantic.

Originally Posted by ahardie (Post 35151317)

Given there enormous resources their track record is very poor in my opinion and I have heard stories about them considerably beefing up their commisions before.



You could be right but there is actually nothing to stop them keeping this channel exclusive to satellite. I wonder if there is any precedent for this. Has any other broadcaster started a general entertainment channel before with a view to restricting the amount of people who can actually view it? Not including just HD channels.

Originally Posted by nialli (Post 35151326)

Wow. You mean BOTH of their homegrown series for 2011 will be on Sky Atlantic??
I dont' think that's true, and it's hardly the end of the world. Much as I enjoyed Thorne, there is far more superior UK-produced series on even BBC4 than Sky has on all of its channels.

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Sky1 was satellite only during the big bust up a few years ago. Advertisers forced Sky to put it back on Virgin. I think VirginOne may have been exclusive to cable for a few weeks, not sure on that.

Sky has 10m TV customers, VM has shy of 4m. Advertisers want the eyeballs, they don't care about platforms, and as Sky isn't generating any additionals subs revenues with Sky Atlantic and platform jumpers are likely to be insignificant, they'll broaden the audience for Sky Atlantic at some point, it's just a matter of when. Or they'll charge for it.

I don't pretend to understand some of Sky's logic. I would have thought they would have dropped the £10 a month HD sub by now, but they haven't.

All off topic for this thread - why doesn't Media Boy start a "Not coming soon to Virgin Media" thread for this kind of discourse? :)

Originally Posted by nialli (Post 35151326)

I think VirginOne may have been exclusive to cable for a few weeks, not sure on that.

Originally Posted by mersey70 (Post 35151350)

It could be they haven't dropped the now £10.25 HD charge as it rakes in around £300 million per year!

Maybe once they have recouped their HD investment they will drop the HD charge like they did with the Sky+ fee, or maybe they won't. Who knows.

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35151288)

Each week Virgin seem to fall further and further behind Sky interms of something being announced

Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 35151364)

Let's see what the facts say...

http://pressoffice.virginmedia.com/p...sArchive&nyo=1
http://corporate.sky.com/media/press_releases/2010.htm

I make that VM 106, Sky 43.

Originally Posted by nialli (Post 35151326)

Sky has 10m TV customers, VM has shy of 4m. Advertisers want the eyeballs, they don't care about platforms, and as Sky isn't generating any additionals subs revenues with Sky Atlantic and platform jumpers are likely to be insignificant, they'll broaden the audience for Sky Atlantic at some point, it's just a matter of when. Or they'll charge for it.

I don't pretend to understand some of Sky's logic. I would have thought they would have dropped the £10 a month HD sub by now, but they haven't.

All off topic for this thread - why doesn't Media Boy start a "Not coming soon to Virgin Media" thread for this kind of discourse? :)

Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 35151364)

Let's see what the facts say...

http://pressoffice.virginmedia.com/p...sArchive&nyo=1
http://corporate.sky.com/media/press_releases/2010.htm

I make that VM 106, Sky 43.

Originally Posted by mersey70 (Post 35151395)

I couldn't care less who makes the most noise in terms of number of announcements, i'm more interested what they actually have to say from a customer point of view.

As a customer I am not interested if VM Announces Expiry of Exchange Offer for Senior Secured Notes Due 2018 or if BSkyB is to delist from New York Stock Exchange.

Fascinating!

Originally Posted by mersey70 (Post 35151301)

It's personal choice Andrew, it isn't a battle to 'win' for most customers.

Most subscribers don't hate Sky and love VM or the other way around. They are merely providers of a service just like a utility company.

If they are not providing what they want they can choose to move to someone who can, simple as that.

Originally Posted by Andrewcrawford23 (Post 35151413)

Yes but in these ecomnic times is it reaslly worht one channel switching paying cancaletion feee paying for sky equipment etc? no it aint people are just gullible adn dum this is how the recessionstarte din the first place yes the banks caused it by lending when they shouldnt have but who wher ethe ones asking for silly money for houses the people who dnt hav common sense

Originally Posted by mersey70 (Post 35151395)

I couldn't care less who makes the most noise in terms of number of announcements, i'm more interested what they actually have to say from a customer point of view.

Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 35151449)

Feel free to count the number of customer affecting announcements. I think you will still find denphone is wrong.

Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 35151449)

Feel free to count the number of customer affecting announcements. I think you will still find denphone is wrong.

Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35151510)

Never mind Virgin talking twaddle, this "Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011)" thread has turned into the biggest amount of twaddle you'll find on the internet.

Coming Soon to Virgin TV used to be the best thread on this site but these days you've got to wade through page upon page of off topic jibber jabber before finding something that is actually Coming Soon.

I'm just adding to the jibber jabber with this post:D

More Coming Soon and less Virgin and SKY comparisons please :tu:

Oh and just in-case anyone asks nobody died and made me a staff member, I'm just arrogant and like telling people I don't know what to do;)

Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35151510)

Never mind Virgin talking twaddle, this "Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011)" thread has turned into the biggest amount of twaddle you'll find on the internet.

Coming Soon to Virgin TV used to be the best thread on this site but these days you've got to wade through page upon page of off topic jibber jabber before finding something that is actually Coming Soon.

I'm just adding to the jibber jabber with this post:D

More Coming Soon and less Virgin and SKY comparisons please :tu:

Oh and just in-case anyone asks nobody died and made me a staff member, I'm just arrogant and like telling people I don't know what to do;)

Originally Posted by ahardie (Post 35151516)

Yes Sir! :)
You do have a point though.

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35150821)

New Virgin Media EPG on it way?

I ask my insider this today: Have Virgin got any plans for the old Bravo and Challenge Jackpot channel numbers?

And I got this back: not yet, but I hear there may be a channel shuffle.

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35151522)

New ''Ideal Channel lineup'' and Poll now on my blog @ http://virgintvmediaboy.blogspot.com/p/test-1.html

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35151522)

New ''Ideal Channel lineup'' and Poll now on my blog @ http://virgintvmediaboy.blogspot.com/p/test-1.html

Originally Posted by Hiroki (Post 35151576)

Do not like that list, personally i'd have the music channels at the begining mixed with a few entertainment and then the rest with the bbc and the useless hd channels at the end with the soft-core **** channels haha;)

Originally Posted by devilincarnate (Post 35151607)

Adult swim gets broadcast license:

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/digitalt...m-licence.html