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Unless they have changed the procedure since I last submitted anything, anyone can submit changes to IMDB data, but it's not published until it's verified.

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I have just been reading TV & Satellite week and they are reporting that this coming episode will see the return of

Sorry if all this is old news and that I can't supply a link.

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Verified by who?. If there is a no comment or no responce from an official rights holder (the BBC) then in theory they cant and wont remove any information simply because there has never been a responce to deny or verify anything. So a well educated guess or hearsay will on such tv shows never be denied so anyone who says anything on such matters will have that information stand untill other official information does get released.

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They do employ editors..

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I said River was Amy's daughter

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I think it was fairly obvious that is what the outcome would be.

What an amazing episode :) loved the title of the next episode.

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I am right in thinking that the Doctor is River's father?

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Nope he's not

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No the time vortex produced her during the wedding night nuptials.:D

Somehow I doubt even timelords commit incest.

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Erm.....no

Didn't you see the last five minutes?

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And the greatest cliffhanger since the series came back that we was told to expect that needed a 3 month break to digest was where exacally?

Not exacally the great change there lives forever cliffhanger like they wanted us to expect was it?. Dont get me wrong it was a great episode, but please give a propper reason to have a mid series break than the ultimate cliffhanger it was'nt.

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Then why did the Doctor go funny when she told him who she was. (he said something along the lines " but we (kissing action)"

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Maybe because he has just found out that he has kissed his friend's daughter?

He isn't the father, Rory is.

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So... Spacesuit-Girl = River/Melody too?

Fits, but...

When did The Silence take her & why stick her in a spacesuit?

Why didn't River remember? [Or did she, but just didn't let on]


One popular theory about River's crime is that she killed the Doctor... which her being the spacesuit-girl would fit with... but why? And how will they get around the future-Doctor's death, given that killing off Matt Smith's Doctor permanently (& therefore also stopping there being any after him) wouldn't be very good for the series.

I hope SM answers everything in the second half of the series.

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Right at the end for the majority of viewers, I suspect, who actually had no clue because they don't read internet forums that speculate on these things :)

Plus.... nothing like a bit of hype ;)

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Any internet forums that anyone would have read would have given several "spoilers" as to the true identity. So there was never any single speculation to have said for sure to have spoilt it for anyone. And the itentity was not really mentioned as being the cliffhanger as such only that we were told we would find out the identity and that there would be this great cliffhanger. Dont think anyone said for sure they would be the same event?.

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I hope everyone watched to the end of the credits, btw.

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Why ?

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There was a very brief teaser for the next episode.

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I did, but I'd stopped the recording by then :( (right on the end slate)

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[/COLOR]The time vortex didn't "produce her". She is Amy and rory's child, the time vortex just time lorded her.

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He did say 'during the "nuptials" '.
I'm confused about time lords committing incest though.

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I'm very critical of this doctor,

However I really enjoyed this episode. I considered the possibility of Song being the girl from the first episode but couldn't say for certain.

I think the story of David tenant coming back interesting and highly plausible. Lot sure about peter davidson though

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Because he kissed the daughter of his best friend.


River was the girl in the space suit and that's why it was hinted that she killed the doctor at some point, I guess.

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She also has timelord DNA. Because when Amy and Rory had it away in the TARDIS while it was travelling in the time vortex some how it's DNA was altered.

So that does make river a timelord, sort of.

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Everything certainly seems to point to the regenerating little girl being River.

I believe the Doctor said that Amy was taken before they went to America, so was their prisoner all this time. I'd have to surmise then, that the Silence only swapped pregnant Amy, and eye patch lady did the rest.

As for putting her in a spacesuit.. no definite thoughts on that, but.. There was a lot of talk about fashioning the baby into a weapon. The doctor was also described as a weapon, and i would guess that they would want to control their weapon. If it was known that the baby had "a time head" it's likely they wanted it for those qualities, especially the ability to fly a T.A.R.D.I.S. If you remember, we've so far seen 2 other T.A.R.D.I.S's, the first one in The Lodger episode, and the second in The Impossible Astronaut, which also happened to be the same location where the little girl in the spacesuit first appeared.

And a possible motivation for requiring their own Time Lord to pilot their knockoff T.A.R.D.I.S instead of one of their own people, could be that it's believed by those involved, that only a Time Lord can.. Remember The alliance believed that "Only the Doctor can fly the T.A.R.D.I.S" in The Pandorica Opens?

Anyways.. I think (for now at least) that baby River was taken, conditioned (similar to what happened to Captain Jack's brother Gray in Torchwood) and while under the big bad's control, kills the Flesh Doctor (who has been playing decoy for our Doctor) at least until she is eventually freed by our Doctor. Her ending up in the Stormcage, might be because those who sentence her, recognize that the Flesh doctor was a real person in his own right?

One thing I'm still stuck on, is that when the Doctor and River were examining the empty space suit, it was mentioned that when the little girl got scared, the suit's communication systems automatically established contact with the most powerful person in the land, in this case, the President of the United States. Is it me, or does this seem like a pretty dumb feature to incorporate into the suit of someone who should be keeping a ridiculously low profile? The only thing i can think of, is that the Doctor travels back and rigs it to do that, at a later date..

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I mean into the time lord type person while they celebrated their wedding night it altered the unborn child.

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Does anyone think this is by design or fault that this could be a big clue to how the Time Lords came to be with the reguards to being able to regenerate or there prolonged life etc with what we found out about the baby last night?. Will this be mentioned in the second half of the series, will it turn out by whats already been said that the baby will have 2 hearts?. Did the baby as an adult ever have any babies and therefor Time Lord to?.

So many future possable options for stories.

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I think they were hinting that the Time Lords were created by exposure to the Vortex, and weren't always so. So it's quite possible that River/Melody is a human Time Lord(ish)

Having two hearts could have something that the race that became the Time Lords already had

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Well since I started watching Dr Who back in the original days I always thought that the Time Lords evolved from humans anyway for some reason (dont recall it really being hinted at though) due to far to many a connection between the both over the years that I'd not think is show budget related.

There were some interesting stories from the McCoy eara that hinted a connection between the Time Lords (Silver Nemesis & Battlefield to name 2) and Earth history. So possably something they will comfirm or carry on with from the original series but in a more modern way for the new viewer?.

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So if River Song is the young girl in the space suit and the Doctor's killer/in Stormcage for it aaaaand it'd probably turn out that she's killed the 'flesh' Doctor - why doesn't she already know it [that's she killed the flesh Doctor]? I mean, she's always so sad about this looming ending?

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My head hurts. Is River still from the future or have we caught up with her in her present?

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Well as she's just been born we've sort of caught up. However considering the Doctor at the start of the series who was 200 years older than the one we are currently watching had got a diary with some events that matched River's, I would think we've not got the point where they've run out of things they have done together

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It was hinted at quite early on that River had killed the Doctor and that's why she was in prison.. I think it might have been the episode with the religious commandos and the angels (S5e4 The time of Angels)

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Though considering she doesn't actually seem to be spent much time inside the Stormcage you wonder why they bother lol

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The Baby, or River is still human but with some Timelord DNA added due to the Time Vortex.

The Doctor has to hearts as he is from Galifrey. That has no bearing on the Timelord thing.

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Just another small point, Rory is described as 'a very good man' and went to war... The very good man River is jailed for killing doesn't have to be the doctor.

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Although in Confidential, when SM was talking about the Good Man I'm sure he was referring to the Doctor and the army he brought together

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I thought that as Amy had been swapped before America it may not have even been The Silence who took her? When we saw her taken by The Silence, wasn't that when they were already in the USA, so surely they only took the Ganger Amy?

Spacesuit & knockoff TARDIS... yeah, could all be necessary for their (apparent) plan to control Melody & use her to kill The Doctor.

As you say, though, the communication system seems an odd feature...

- Maybe she forgot or had her memory wiped.

- Maybe she did remember, did know, but couldn't say anything or do anything as it had to play out as it had already played out.

And we don't know that it was a flesh Doctor...

You have to wonder why she is even there in the first place... If the "clerics" were the ones who wanted to user her as a weapon against The Doctor, why would they imprison her for [his?] murder?



Good point... maybe it will turn out that she killed her father...

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Well DT could come back using the same reason as Amy, and he splats MS, but this would deny MS regeneration, but would be one helva twist.

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True - but what are the alternatives? She killed the real Doctor so no more Doctor or replaced by River Song? Hard to say really as it could be anyone she killed anyway. Just the way she's on about 'this being it' and the last this that and the other and Amy telling the girl in the Space Suit she killed The Doctor. lol. Who knows. :confused:

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Is it just me, or are eye patch woman and River Song/Melody just a bit too similar too each other?

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Cant be. If you remember the Ecclestone series in which Rose Tyler touched herself from the past.

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One could easily be a ganger.

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Well SM does try to complicate the series arc, but please get rid of the series arc and give us memorable eps and scenes that have nothing to do with past current and furure eps. Just give us a propper series barring a 2 episode series ender!!!.

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Unfortunately I saw over on digital spy that dr who has been renewed for another 14 episodes.

I wish the BBC would just get rid of It now.

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No-one's forcing you to watch it.

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Can you tell me where I said I was forced to watch it?

Surely you're not trying to imply I shouldn't state my opinion because it disagrees with yours?

Anyway it WAS good when it came back - but now it's just getting worse.

I'd rather it stopped while it was still good and not faded away which it is doing.

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it's like I said, Matt Smith doesn't have the presence to be an effective Doctor. No matter how effective the scripting he can't bring it off, and he doesn't have the right dynamic to bolster a weaker script.

We've reached the mid season hiatus and a cliff hangar and for the first time since watching Dr Who (Tom Baker years originally, but seen earlier episodes as I find them) I don't find myself particularly bothered about solving that cliffhanger.

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Sorry to hear you're disenchanted, Dilli and Nikon, but the statistics show that for the audience generally, Doctor Who is as popular as ever. It's not going to get cancelled any time soon, nor is there likely to be anyone at the top of the BBC food chain peering down and demanding the heads of Stephen Moffat or Matt Smith on a platter.

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Yup I know it won't be, it's just a real shame it'll get more and more crap. I do hope that when it does finish they actually do a proper last episode. I get much more wound up by none finished series ;)

I am still watching it in the hope it picks up. I have only really liked two episodes so far this year.

But I will tune in when it returns in the hope it gets better :tu:

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Well for those that don't like it you won't have to put up with it as much next year :(

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/tv/s7/do...s-in-2012.html

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A certain Doctor Who forum is in meltdown over this at the moment - the amount of paranoia on display is staggering.

I suspect they are simply switching to a US-style autumn/winter season with a Christmas break, so we will get 6 or 7 eps in autumn 2012, a break, a Christmas special, then the remaining 6 or 7 in the winter months at the start of 2013.

That then leaves them free to love-bomb autumn/winter 2013 and into 2014 ... 23 November 2013 being absolutely key, because that's the 50th anniversary. And in 2013 it's also a Saturday. ;)

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Is that paranoia? Maybe they are switching to a US Style season. Makes sense given the information given 'only some will be shown in 2012'. Doctor Who's ratings declined towards the end of the season, as we enter June/July, in previous seasons didn't they?

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No, what I'm suggesting isn't paranoia ... The paranoid suggestions over at Gallifrey Base are all along the lines of BBC cuts leading to a full Who season being reduced from 14 eps (including the Christmas special) to only 7 eps. They are concerned that all we will get is 7 in late 2012, 7 in early 2013 then a one-off in November 2013 if we're lucky.

I don't think that's the most natural reading of the information we have so far, but a whole section of fandom, especially those old enough to remember the classic series, still has a tendency to "put 2 and 2 together and get 1985" as someone over there aptly put it.

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Ah ok. I Missed the 'I suspect' part of your post. :dunce:

It does seem the BBC like messing around with Doctor Who's scheduling though. First the '4 specials', then a proper season, now a spilt season, and a weird plan for next season.

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I just find it hard to become emotive about the show while Matt Smith is in the title role. During the Tennant or Ecclestone series I would have been complaining, I know when Ecclestone took over I said 'I'm not sure if he's right for the role' and the same for Tennant, however both quickly established themselves and took ownership of the role. Currently Matt Smith has been so - bland - as the doctor I just don't get the same drive for the show.

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Personally I think Matt has been brilliant in the role, and hope he continues for a while.

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Same he is great in the part of the doctor

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Ditto :tu:

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New trailer for the second half of series 6 (from Comic-Con):

Spoilers! :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2xkQkPo7KRU

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''Haven't you figured that one out yet''

Just after the part where he dies.

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Oh I now hate you... I read the word SPOILERS but then thought how many spoilers can there be!!!!

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Ok...............

Looked good.

Will someone be kind enough to explain it to me (in spoiler tags)

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Don't forget that Doctor Who returns this evening, folks!

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As if we could ...

:hyper:

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As someone pointed out in the comments

Face of boe (00:13)

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Wibbly wobbly...Fun episode, with some answers and some questions.

So, confirmation of sorts that River was imprisoned for killing The Doctor... so the previous assumption that River was the "impossible astronaut" is likely correct.

We still don't know how The Doctor gets out of the whole "killed in Utah" thing though... that'll be held for series finale I guess.

Also...

The Doctor appeared to not know about the Silence. What about the events of the series opener? Also, in today's episode it was said that the Silence is a religious order, not a species.

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Didn't think that was the best of episodes, i was expecting more from Hitler, but he spent most of the show inside a cupboard. Did the using up of lives give the Dr more chance of regenerations though.

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The Hitler stuff was just filler to build up to Mels regenerating into River Song. For me it was enough that it gave Rory one of the best lines ever - "Shut up, Hitler!". :D

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Absolutely ... the setting was a simple backdrop this week. The story was all about the characters (and the better for it). But what a backdrop. The set designers played an absolute blinder with Hitler's study. The whole episode felt as if it had an epic scale.

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Good return episode, but what happened to Hitler, he seemed to just get forgotten about.

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I think that WW2 happened to Hitler ;) Well it does explain Hitlers ww2 obsession with the occult.. seeing blue boxes and weird humans :D

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http://www.radiotimes.com/blog/2011-...7s-kill-hitler

:D

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Tonight's episode was erm well just crap... anyone?

Notice the phrase at the end ''In the flesh''

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I thought that it was really good...

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This episode was originally scheduled to be broadcast third in the series ... Could be a leftover line from the big secret that was revealed midseason.

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So what the heck was last night's episode about?

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Yeah - when you find out - let me know!

Next week's look better though ...

the.. are back...

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Are they though.. by the look of it they might be virtual???

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Two Amy Ponds, apparently.

It was too slow for my liking.

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I liked last night's ep. Karen Gillan put in an excellent performance.

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Agreed - but it had the feeling of yet another episode that didn't fit in anywhere.

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Well.....that was a complete waste of time, explained nothing and further more, confirmed my worst fears that the last couple of episodes really don't fit it to a storyline anywhere and have just been filler.

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Agreed...

I must say this has been worst season since the re-launch. Time to put it back in the box?

Ohhh see what I did there - two 'Who references in that last sentance....perhaps I should become a writer...

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I disagree ,i think this story line will continue in the next season ,i believe we have only seen half of it

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I actually enjoyed it .. but in the end it was probably as mad as I like my television viewing to be :D

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I hope so.

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Predictable story and bad acting - yup, it's Matt Smith as the Doctor still. A performance that was only beaten in the 'bad acting in Dr Who' by Bonnie Langford and Bertie Bassett. When will they recycle him into someone who's worth watching?

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When the rest of the 7 or 8 million people who watch the show start agreeing with you? I wouldn't hold your breath.

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Neither of those stopped Tennant getting 3 seasons.

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I thought the question being 'Doctor Who?' was clever.

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yep
That is the reasoning behind my earlier comment about the storyline continuing next season

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I am not so sure.

The reason why I think it was clever is because that question cannot be answered in the series. It's hiding in plain sight, it's the first question, it's the very title of the show.

The bit at the end when he says that the Doctor cannot escape it, that it is still coming, doesn't just refer to his death but the life of the show.

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The only good thing in that last episode was the skulls being the monster.

The whole thing has become too complex. It's not the acting, it's the plotline with time that has become so wibbly wobbly and broken that unless you have some sort of massive power of retention of series gone past and future you have no clue of what is going on anymore. Too many epsisodes are more about setting up something else to be shown later on, yet by the time you get to that something else you've forgotten about the set up so you've lost the plot.

Unless the current production team change their approach I won''t be watching any more. The TiVo series link has already been removed.

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I really enjoyed it, however I think they need to go back to monster of week as the season long story arcs are getting too complex.

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So the Dr is married to River Song, and travels with his mother & father in-laws :D

I guess the the twist with it not being the doctor who died.

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I always thought that the Doctors name was "The Doctor".

Thus when introducing himself or being introduced always posed the question "Dr Who?"

But that it was a question that couldn't be answered because he is simply the "Doctor"

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No that is his assumed name, because the master said that it was typical of him to assume that name.

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Nobody knows his name, that's part of the mystery.

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http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/tv/s7/do...xit-video.html

Time for Another DR?